Neil Olshey's Press Conference on Blake Griffin - My Take
The Clippers held a media availability with Assistant GM Neil Olshey yesterday. Kevin posted a couple of the more interesting points on ClipperBlog (hat tip to Citizen swamigusto). In addition, there's a pretty complete transcript of his comments on the MyClipperNation site (it requires a registration, but if you're not registered for it already, you should be - hat tip to citizen k0d4).
I was actually there, shoulder to shoulder with the real reporters like Shelley Smith and Cheryl Miller, shoving my voice recorder in Neil's face like everyone else. The Nuggets were scheduled to use the Clippers training facility later in the day, so there were more reporters there than I thought there might be. It's an interesting sort of first baby step in the world of access - the Clippers did a good job of getting the transcript published, so as it turns out, I didn't have to be there to know what was said. But at the same time, I heard HOW he said it, and I think that matters as well. At any rate, read the transcript - and here are my thoughts.
Olshey's clearly pumped. As Kevin pointed out, he's on a first name basis with the number one overall pick, and that pick's name is 'Blake' (before the lottery "we were all hoping for the result to be Blake.") Why was Andy Roeser playing coy Tuesday night, when MDsr told Lisa Dillman over the phone later that the pick was Griffin and Neil Olshey spent 20 minutes talking about the guy Wednesday morning? Basically, they just wanted to make sure that they had all spoken internally before they said anything externally. Once that happened, they dispensed with the coy act:
We didn't want to jinx anything by talking about what ifs prior to getting to New York, and we were all hoping for the result to be Blake. Look, Mike (Dunleavy) was in Spain, Andy Roeser was in New York and the owner and myself were in Los Angeles. We just felt it was appropriate to make sure Mr. Sterling was the first to know our plans prior to everybody that has access to the internet.
I asked Olshey if they thought Griffin was quick enough to play the three, something that's been a topic of conversation around here. He believes he can:
I absolutely think so. Offensively I think Blake is a lot more versatile than people give him credit for. Part of the college game is using guys to the advantage of the team. Jeff (Capel) is a phenomenal college coach and Blake was very one-dimensional there because he was so good at that one dimension, they didn't need to expand it. They had perimeter guys like Willie Warren and Taylor (Griffin) and they kept him kind of in a box. He averaged 23 and 14 doing it. He has phenomenal lateral movement, he's quick and he's a high level athlete.
I want to go into this a little bit more. Chad Ford has also made the point that Griffin is much better in several areas - shooting, defense, quickness, etc. - than people believe, simply because he was not asked to do those things in college. That's great news. But let's be clear - he's a prototypical power forward. Olshey called him 'ideally suited.' Playing him anywhere else is a luxury that he may be able to afford the team with his versatility, but it's a kludge. I'm a big believer in getting your 5 best players on the court, and if Blake Griffin needs to play some minutes at the three for that to happen, that's fine for now. But the better solution in the long run is certainly to clear up the logjam among the bigs, and improve the depth at small forward. Having said that, you have to look at both sides of the ball when considering whether a guy can play the wing. The idea that Marcus Camby could was always dubious. Despite his DPOY bona fides, Camby's prowess is as a shot blocker; he is not a particularly good on-ball defender, and he certainly has no perimeter offense beyond that set shot. Defensively, it sounds as if Griffin has the lateral quickness to defend some NBA threes. Not Kobe Bryant when he's at the three, but guys like Lamar Odom and Carmelo Anthony. Offensively, we certainly didn't see anything at Oklahoma to indicate that it would work, but Ford says he has a great handle and solid range in workouts. Or maybe Zach Randolph can step out to the perimeter, and so you might be able to play them together some. But view if for what it is: a luxury that may be useful in some situations, but a less than ideal solution.
I mentioned this Tuesday night, but it seems to me that the most important thing is the enthusiasm that Griffin can build for the team as a whole. Olshey already sees it starting:
I got text messages from Baron and Marcus and Zach, Baron was twittering away about Clipper Nation. The exciting thing is it's not just another organizational decision and we got a hall pass and no longer have to do any work on the draft and just take Blake, but the players know how good this kid is. I think Baron is going to love running the floor like this – a guy that can finish, a guy that can play with Marcus, Chris and Zach. I think there are lineups where he can be a small five or a big three and be out there with Zach. The players are as excited as we are, and the message really is the past is the past.
He went on to say that Baron has been in the training facility every day since May 4th, working out twice a day. While he was talking, DeAndre Jordan was at the other end, working on post moves with Kim Hughes, mixed with free throws with Fred Vinson. Jim Eyen was looking on from the sideline. This is all anecdotal, and who knows how it will translate into next season. But in May of 2008, we didn't even have a team - only Thornton and Kaman were even on the roster. There's an opportunity here for these guys to work hard and build something, to develop the chemistry that was so sorely lacking last season. The enthusiasm that comes with the first overall pick is a great catalyst.
Be sure to check out Olshey's comments about trade possibilities. Certainly there weren't any bombshells there, but he seems very open to the possibility that the team will do more than nothing this summer. (More on that in a later post.)
It was also interesting to hear him give voice to a common perception around here, that the rest of the league was looking for the Clippers to hold a fire sale last February. According to Olshey, DTS told them they absolutely were not required to reduce payroll - that the decisions had to be basketball related:
At the trade deadline I think a lot of teams around the league thought we were going to try and dump salaries and that they were going to be able to steal a player to help them in a playoff run when we were no longer a viable option. Mr. Sterling had one comment for Mike, myself and Andy Roeser, ‘Any decision you make I want you to make the best basketball decision for our organization.'
I've got one other minor observation from the day: I came away with the general impression that Olshey is not a huge fan of Mike Taylor, though I may be reading too much into things. On the subject of trades, "somebody to play behind Baron" was one of the things he mentioned, and when he was talking about the recent drafts, he mentioned Thornton, Gordon and Jordan, but omitted Taylor: "What we've done in the last couple of drafts with Eric, Al and DeAndre, is kind of rebuild a youth core, not unlike some of the other teams in the league." I found this strange - didn't Mike Taylor have an even better rookie year than DeAndre Jordan? If you project some improvement, isn't backup point guard taken care of? In fact, "somebody to play behind Eric Gordon" is a much bigger problem than "somebody to play behind Baron." I'm sure I'm overreacting, but I found it interesting. Obviously he mentioned Taylor on the subject of summer league, and that will be our next chance to see how Taylor is developing.
Speaking of summer league, I was of course floored by the dropping of references to MBFGC, Sofoklis Schortsianitis, but that's a subject for another post.
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A huge step
Didn’t know you were there, and, more importantly, didn’t know that it was YOU that asked the question about Griffin as small forward, the answer to which I had read earlier, perhaps on Kevin’s site.
In any event, that is good access. Glad to hear that guys are working on their game. Happy to see that Baron and Zach and Camby are all interested in next year. When Joe Torre was fired from the Yankees, Derek Jeter was having a threesome in South Beach The point is, the Yankees captain was fully immersed in his personal life when this big news broke. I would not have thought twice about it if these three Clippers were somewhere off in Europe and didn’t even know the Clippers had the top pick. The fact that they showed interest is a good sign. (In fairness to Jeter, the Yanke skipper does show up for the press conferences of the team’s new arrivals).
I see a potentially versatile team, though I fear that it will give MDSr. more excuses to avoid settling on an identiy and trying to be the chameleon team that adjusts to the opponent. As we have seen, this leads to him thinking, which leads to overthinking, which leads to poor over coaching and losses. Griffin can indeed handle the ball. He may or may not be able to shoot, but he can run and jump and is plenty quick. He could contribute right away.
As Zhiv said, when is the last time a coach complained of having too many bigs? (I think Zhiv said that). I can see a scenario where these guys are effectively platooned in a number of dfiierent ways to go big, go small, run, post up, etc. The big question is, can they do other basketball stuff, like pass, shoot and defend the s/r? I can’t wait to find out.
F-Elton!
Ha ha!
In fishwrap parlance, SP got scooped by KA! SP asked the question and KA beat him to print… er… post….
Mike Taylor
Yeah, the whole thing about how they need a backup to Baron Davis certainly stuck out in the midst of the Olshey comments.
What’s up with that?
One theory, off the top of my head, is that it was primarily designed as a vote of confidence for Baron Davis. The Dallas article shows that people are assuming all of the usual things, that the Clippers best players are available to teams that would like to get them on a first come, first serve basis. BDavis had a really bad season and it was looking like the Clippers made a bad deal and want to get out of it. And Baron Davis would help the Mavericks, so… At any rate, that article is just an immediate, extreme example of the wish fulfillment scenarios of other teams. The fact that Baron Davis was in the discussion is the important point. Olshey also said, if I remember correctly, that BD and Dunleavy are on the same page at this point. Lots of support for Baron Davis. They were very excited when they signed him, they believe he has good leadership qualities and playoff experience. Now he just needs to play much better basketball.
Not a good sign that Taylor was an afterthought, and leaving him out of the conversation about the other rookies is more of the same.
Seems like something is probably up.
Another possibility is that they think that Taylor might have trade value in one of the deals that they’re considering.
And one more: perhaps they had spent time thinking about Rubio and considering the possibility of drafting him if they got the #2 pick or he still on the board at #3. Mark Heisler said that they were going to trade the pick unless it was #1: another vote of confidence for BDavis, it would seem. But if they were thinking that BDavis was their starter, that they were going to trade the #2 or #3 pick and not draft Rubio, how did Mike Taylor fit into that discussion?
Mysterious.
Baron
Olshey went out of his way to talk about Baron – called him the franchise player when he didn’t really have to. Andy Roeser did the same thing the night of the draft.
It’s pretty clear that the Clippers are full steam ahead with Baron and MDsr right now. It’s an old Bush Administration tactic, or pretending that a weakness is a strength. There’s some logic to it – Baron is certainly capable of playing better and the team probably has a better chance of succeeded with a rejuvenated Baron than with anything they could get for him. Hopefully it works.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on May 21, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
He went on to say that Baron has been in the training facility every day since May 4th, working out twice a day.
That’s really the key. I really think Baron can acheive alot with this team. If he can get back into shape, and come out this season with energy, I think Baron can lead us to the post season. I see no reason to dump Baron at this point.
by Michael White on May 21, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Baron was on vacation in Belize in May
It´s a detail with no relevance, but tell us not to buy every word from Oshley (in this case).
by edu_argentina on May 21, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Right - he's just trying to sell tickets
And I disagree that having too many bigs is always a good thing. Sometimes less is more.
If they were going to trade any non-#1 pick
why was Sr. in Spain?
Not sure I believe that Baron and Coach are on the same page. But I do think that the good lottery news is an opportunity for everyone to be excited and refocus.
Re: Taylor, I’m thinking it may have been an oversight. But I can also understand if mgmt is not quite convinced he is the everyday backup PG. From the limited amt I have seen of MT, I hope he figures into the future, but having another veteran PG is not a bad move.
F-Elton!
Sr. in Spain
Wouldn’t you want to be in Spain right now, hanging out in Barcelona?
But aside from that, Sr. was doing due diligence on Rubio. They would have been making an informed decision. Maybe he would have come back and said Rubio is the real deal, he’s truly incredible. Instead he saw Rubio get tweaked, which was an omen for things to come—Rubio wasn’t going to be a Clipper. The Curse is like a virus that MDSr carried across the Atlantic. He should probably be quarantined.
by citizen zhiv on May 21, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
The Clipper Plague
More deadly than swine flu.
The part that gets my attention is how much they say Dunleavy and Baron are on the same page. Is that also true when the coach is scouting 18 year old Spanish point guards?
Yes, I would love to go to Barcelona.
F-Elton!
Backup PG
If you project some improvement, isn’t backup point guard taken care of?
With all due respect, HECK NO.
Taylor is a horrible PG. Just horrible. I honestly don’t know how anyone doesn’t see that. He never creates for others, he’s turnover prone and he’s always looking for his own shot. He has NONE of the qualities of a PG aside from his size. He’s an undersized SG, nothing more.
How many times has Taylor penetrated into the lane and kicked it out to a teammate for an open shot? The next time I see it will be the first. Instead any time he penetrates, it’s with the sole intent to score.
And his turnovers are absolutely atrocious. I’ve never seen a guy simply hand the ball to another team so many times.
What Taylor is is a spark plug scorer off the bench. A (very) poor man’s Nate Robinson. He’s quick, he’s fast, he pressures the ball and he scores. That’s all he can do. If he’s your backup PG, your team will constantly give up leads and fall behind further. He should be a 3rd string PG who occasionally plays a little 2.
The reality is that for a 2nd round pick at the very end of the draft, he was a good pickup. But he’s not by any means a quality backup PG.
btw
I’m not trying to jump all over you Steve. I’m jumping all over Mike Taylor. I know that in such a horrible year, fans tend to cling on to any silver lining, and many times Taylor provided that. But on any team that isn’t at the bottom of the standings, Taylor doesn’t get any playing time.
fair enough
I’m projecting improvement, remember. He does a lot of things you can’t teach.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on May 21, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea no question on improvement
But he also lacks a lot of innate qualities that a PG needs. He’s just not a guy who has PG instincts. Poor decision making and sloppiness with the ball can be mitigated with a swingman or a big, but a PG? That’s a like having a QB who can’t read the routes.
Sorry…just reading my own post I feel like I jumped all over you. Taylor just frustrates me to no end and it’s kinda crazy to me to hear fans raving about him like he’s the next CP3 (you didn’t do this, but some really are blind to his significant flaws). The guy is a horrible PG. Just horrible.
As a 3rd string PG who just needs to come in and be a spark off the bench in scoring, he’s solid. But he can’t run an offense and this team desperately needs a capable backup PG.
i for one, am a fan of mike taylor
he just has an energy to him that constantly has me wanting to see what he does next(although as you’ve pointed out, it doesnt always equal something positive). but could ALL of this mean the clips are looking to snag another pick in this PG heavy draft? If so, I’d take a long look at the following(presuming we’re not snagging a top 10 pick, most likely late lottery-late 1st):
Flynn – perfect for the uptempo game, hits big shots, has all the floaters mike taylor has plus a jumpshot and much better court vision. blazing fast as well, though could have trouble guarding nba size points.
Maynor – also suited to an uptempo game, but could distribute in a half court setting as well. very experienced. carried his team/good leader. i’d say a legit starting PG 3-4 years in(perfect timing for BD’s retirement?)
Lawson – another extremely quick PG. has NBA size at the 1(hes 195lbs i think, so what if hes 5’11"). Excels at the uptempo game while also struggling a little when the paces gets slowed, but he seems like a true leader and his jump shot has improved tremendously over the last year.
Calathes – my sleeper right now. 6’5" point who can distribute, shoot, and with some time in the weight room guard nba 2’s? sounds enticing next to EJ. i’m thinking kirh hinrich but with better court vision.
i kept out rubio, jennings and holiday because they’ll likely be top 10 picks, and although there might be picks in the top 10 for sale or trade, i dont know if dunleavy is willing to give up enough to get one. so we’re likely looking at the prospects in the middle of the 1st. i dont think curry fits this team and mills seems more like mike taylor than a PG. so these are the choices i would think…
I second that: Taylor has Developability
Mike Taylor has raw speed. He just needs time to improve. I remember when San Antonio was going to bail on Tony Parker because he was “too out of control” and couldn’t hit a jump shot. His shot is still far from consistent but he has learned to use his speed wisely.
Olshey Thought's on Backup PG on the STH Call
During the STH conference call, Olshey actually said out loud what I was thinking when asked about getting someone to backup Baron (the caller asked, since Baron has been hurt so much, blah blah blah).
His Answer?
I don’t have an exact transcript but it was something like this…
“I happen to think our best backup option at Point Guard is actually one our Shooting Guards.”
1. Wow! I guess Taylor IS NOT in the front of his mind.
2. Wow!I thought all season about how Gordon is versatile enough to be a big strong point guard. Statistically, I thought the only reason is assist numbers were low were because (a) he knew his job was to score first (b) many of his passes led to assists © AT always dribbles before he shoots.
Actually
I think he said something more neutral. It was like “one of our best ball handlers is our best shooting guard.” Something like that. It wasn’t as strong as you remembered.
At the conf call, Oshley sounded like they’re definitely intent on finding a backup SG and even mentioned possibly trying to get another first round pick to fill that need.
Wish I Had It Recorded!
You may be right. Anyhow, the answer was definitely NOT Mike Taylor. Poor guy. Hope he makes it. He’s fun to watch.
If his game at the Garden vs. the Knicks was a taste of what he could be, I would think the Clippers should be very positive on him. But maybe they know something they haven’t let out….
Who are they gonna get to backup Hobbit?
really interesting...
…if only that they’re looking at the second half of the first round… what do you guys think of Collison? Good handle, pretty quick, not a bad shooter, good defender. Not spectacular, but… reminds me of Gary Grant.
Sounds like they’d be willing to take on another guaranteed contract, which is very positive, but again, might spell the end of the Steve Novak Experience.
It's a good draft for point guards
There are a lot of decent point guards who could end up being pretty good. So trading down for a late first rounder, maybe from a team like the Celtics who don’t want their first round pick because of the tax, might not be a bad idea. It is interesting how Olshey seems to completely dismiss Taylor.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on May 22, 2009 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Good points
You state the case a bit too strongly perhaps, but you make some very good points here.
There’s a value to a spark plug scorer off the bench. And Taylor is also capable of running the Clipper set offense effectively, though that’s not saying much.
And CS is right that he should be able to improve.
Ability to penetrate effectively and dish is asking a fair amount from a backup PG. If they were really good at it, they would probably be starters. You get a lot of safe guys in the position.
On the whole you’re right, however. The Clips have a real shortage of good passers, and Taylor doesn’t help that problem. Probably best as a 3rd string PG. But he might improve. Should be interesting to see what he does in summer league.
Yea I agree
Like I said, I came off a bit too strong and didn’t mean to make it sound like I was killing Steve (it was a really good post too).
Zhiv, you say that asking a backup to penetrate an kick is asking a lot. Maybe, but not when a LOT of what Taylor does is penetrate. It’s not like I’m saying “why doesn’t he penetrate and kick!?” I’m saying “stop penetrating and throwing up bad shots or turning the ball over! Try passing for once!” Taylor often penetrates, gets caught in the air and either throws up a bad shot or passes it to the other team. It’s not even like the defense makes a good play. Often he literally passes the ball to one of the defenders. It’s infuriating.
I think Taylor would be fine as a third string PG and SG. Play him off the ball once in a while to let him just focus on scoring and getting his. That maximizes the things he does well. He should be a guy who gets like 8 minutes a game. Not the primary backup for either spot.
Taylor
did show some signs of improvement when he got some consistent minutes in the last third of the season but he’s very young and inexperienced and dropped into running a team that had poor chemistry and bad coaching last year.
As you know, players develop at different rates so I think he’s shown enough to warrant more opportunities.
The understanding he was developing on the alley-oops with DJ kept me going for a few of the games in the dark, murky spells of last season.
He’s definately prone to TO’s and needs to make better decisions when penetrating but his quickness and athleticism are phenominal and with a (hopefully) motivated Baron next season, it will be interesting to see if BD can take MT under his wing more (instead of thinking about his fat self and complaining!).
Bingo! Oh me oh my!
I could just plus one all of the above comments...
Olshey seemed to overlook Taylor, and I also perceived it as a slight… but madglove’s right, Taylor’s really not much of a point guard at all. But, while Mike Taylor played a good deal of point last year, I don’t think he was ever number one or two on the depth chart. Baron, Hart, Collins, even Jones were always in front of him… and, really Collins and Jones aren’t pg’s either. Maybe what Olshey was saying is that it’s a Clipper priority to bring in a number two point guard who’s really a point guard.
Agree
Well said, swamigusto.
Still a bit of a slight on Taylor, but I like the analysis of Taylor here. He’s an exciting player. I think he would have been the backup PG through a significant stretch if he hadn’t broken the thumb.
by citizen zhiv on May 21, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions

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