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Blake Griffin:

No Shoes - 6'8.5

Shoes - 6'10

Weight - 248

Wingspan - 6'11.25

Reach - 8'9

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I suppose those stats are pretty good Not exactly sure what a "top of the line" measurement is. At least he really is 6'10 and he's nearly 250 pounds. That's also a plus as he'll need size and strength against other bigs. Some interesting notes:

Tyreke Evans has the same wingspan as Blake does and a reach of 8'8. Earl Clark has a wingspan of 7'2.5 and a reach of 9'1.5.

To put this into perspective a bit Al has a wingspan of 7'1 and a reach of 8.8

Hopefully we get the rest of the stats (max vert., bench press, agility, etc) later today

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That's not really encouraging...

His standing reach and wingspan are a bit short for a PF. Not as bad as Johnny Flynn though, that guy is a T-Rex.

by Newton Pham on May 29, 2009 8:06 AM PDT reply actions  

I take back what I said...

It listed Johnny Flynn as 6’11 with no shoes and a reach of 7’11, but that isn’t right.

by Newton Pham on May 29, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's not bad stats

Especially some ppl were suggesting Blake is 6’6". He has a normal wingspan, not like Kevin Willis, Short Stubby arms for a 7’0"

by Qlippers on May 29, 2009 8:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Not bad at all

I was one of the guys here worried about his true size. This definately gives me comfort that he’s no Michael Beasley.

by Michael White on May 29, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not bad...

but no way this guy can play center on a regular basis in the NBA with that height. If he is fast enough, he could play the 3 three though…well, on defense to begin with anyway.

Do or do not. There is no try.

by Clip Show on May 29, 2009 8:53 AM PDT reply actions  

It's all good...

Just looking at him, no one thought he was in that crazy long, Anthony Randolph category. So the only way it would be bad news is if he wasn’t legitimately 6’10" (he is with shoes, and let’s face facts, they play in shoes) or if his wingspan was actually the same or less than his height (which is the rule of thumb for ‘normal’).

It’s his athleticism at his size (vert, lateral movement) that makes him a special prospect. So in the case of height and reach, the absence of bad news is good news.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on May 29, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get the NBA height measurement thing...

Us normal folk have to give our height without shoes why do they get to add shoes to theirs?

by Newton Pham on May 29, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha well they measure them with and without shoes.

I don’t know why it matters unless some players get some height lifts in their sneakers ;)

by dulciusEXasperis on May 29, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's what's interesting...

If you look at the numbers, some people get an extra .75 inches from their shoes, some get like an inch and a half (Griffin included). If shoes can add an extra inch, without taking away anything, shouldn’t all players be playing in ‘tall’ shoes?

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on May 29, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is definitely good to hear...

Im not 100% sure if its accurate but from what Ive read his weight and height with/without shoes is very comparable to Amare Stoudeamire when he came out of high school….He doesn’t have quite the reach or wingspan but that doesn’t really concern me too much…

by johnnyoc21 on May 29, 2009 12:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Reach & wingspan

Probably means he’s not likely to be a strong defender. To be an elite defender w/o those natural tools, he’ll have to be a very smart player. We’ll see.

Still, it’s good to see that he’s a full 6-10. And like Steve said, what sets him apart are his athleticism, speed and agility. Those attributes aren’t as impressive if he’s like 6-8. But at a full 6-10, it’s pretty amazing.

by madglove on May 29, 2009 12:18 PM PDT reply actions  

That's what I was thinking but then took a look at Kevin Love and his Wingspan/Reach

Him and Griffin have the same stats except Love has an extra in on reach. Love is a very good rebounder and looks to be a good defender.
Here’s hopeing Griffin becomes a solid defender.

by dulciusEXasperis on May 29, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

And don't forget

Griffin is way more athletic….and can jump higher too.

Do or do not. There is no try.

by Clip Show on May 29, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually he could be a good defender

as long as his work ethic stays the same, defense is 90% effort and 10% length so he can make up for it with extra effort.

In Gordon we trust

by bestclipfan on May 29, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

flynn isnt too bad...

i read that he broke a bone in a growth plate as a child so his legs werent as long as his brothers who are all 6’3 ish.

but he still has a 6’4 wingspan which is not bad for a 5’11-6’0 guy.

the guy who measures horribly is ty lawson.

6’0 wingspan. generally a wingspan the same as your height is considered normal (a freak is someone like rondo who is 6’2 and has like a 6’10 wingspan)

by hans007 on May 29, 2009 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

also by the way...

deandre jordan had a 9’6.5 standing reach, which is higher than thabeet.

if deandre were in this draft he’d be in the lottery .

by hans007 on May 29, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

opps...

i mean 9’ 5.5 on deandre. still higher than thabeet.

honestly i’d rather have deandre than thabeet. that is how week the 2009 draft is.

by hans007 on May 29, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah DJ's reach and wingspan are amazing.

He was good for us last season and with Kaman likely on the move DJ should see some more playing time seeing as Camby would be our only remaining center.

by dulciusEXasperis on May 29, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

tyreke evans

that dudes wingspan is crazy… hes long

by kaynam20 on May 30, 2009 1:35 AM PDT reply actions  

not too bad or suprised…. never looked like andrei kirilenko from the pics

by andrewexd on May 30, 2009 2:00 AM PDT reply actions  

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