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A Random Trade Thought...

I'm not usually one to post trades (except for the occasional suggestion as to who I would like to make a run for).  But I was playing around with a trade checker and pulled off a 3 team deal that seemed to make some sense.  I haven't put too much thought into all the details, and their are parts of this deal that go against what I would like to see the Clippers do, but I thought it was interesting none the less (trades are really about compromise anyway)...

 

It might be easier to see this trade here http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lznt5z

 

Clippers :

Incoming Players :  Caron Butler (Washington), Darius Songaila (washington), Greg Buckner (Memphis), Darko Milicic (Memphis), #2 pick in the draft (via memphis)

Outgoing Players:  Zach Randolph (Washington) Al Thornton (Washington), Marcus Camby (Washington), Minnissotta pick (to Waashington)

 

Washington:

 

Incoming:  ZBO, Thronton, Camby, Minny pick

Outgoing: Caron Butler (Clippers), Darius Songaila (CLippers), Antawn Jamison (Washington), #5 pick (to Memphis)

 

Memphis:

Incoming: Antawn Jamison, #5 pick

 

Outgoing: Darko Milicic (Clippers0, Greg Buckner (Clippers), #2 pick (Clippers)

 

Washington is well over the cap as they stand right now.  In this scenarion they take Randolph but actually save money long term, thanks to Cambys expiring deal (which they would have no problem trading away at the deadline).  They replace Caron Butler with Thornton, which is admittedly a downgrade, but Thornton is young, athletic, and cheap.  ZBO is a better post scorer than Jamison, and defensively Jamison wasnt great on the block either.  Camby, Thornton, Randolph, Arenas keeps them competitive in the East while helping them get back in the right direction financially.  They also would be deferring drafting a player who they would have to pay 54-5 mil to for another year or two...

 

Washington gets Antawn Jamison, a versatile offensive 4 and a good character guy for Darko and Buckner.  They swap the #2 pick for # 5, and with the possibility that Rubio doesn't want to play for them and the fact that they would have to buy out his contract, that doesn't seem too unrealistic to me, considering they are getting Antawn Jamison.

 

And for our beloved Clips, we pick up the type of wing player most of us agree we need in Caron Butler, and also shave a couple of mil off the payroll (plus Darko is an expiring deal, but could be a valuable backup C...Buckner is expiring too).  We basically eat Songailas contract, but he's a serviceable backup 4 in my opinion.   Clips also draft Rubio #2 Baron Davis, EJ, Butler, Griffin, Kaman is your starting liineup heading into next season, plus you still have some contracts to work with.  And you have an incredible bunch of young talent.  I personally would throw in another pick to memphis to sweeten that deal if they were hesitant.

 

Its possible Memphis would have absolutely no interest in Jamison, but they are weak at the 4, and hes a proven scorer.  Best of all hes not really costing them all that much more (about 2 mil a season with the departures of Darko and Buckner.  Wizards fans might not be in love with the deal, but it might make a lot of sense to their management

 

Anyway thought Id throw it out there to see where people are at on that deal.  I personally am not crazy about the idea of throwing Griffin into the starting lineup right away (I am in the minority that likes ZBO), and we would still be thin at the 3,  but like I said before, making trades is about compromise...

 


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Washington is giving too much.

Plus trades this complicating never happen.

by hip2clip on Jun 12, 2009 7:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Washington is definitely giving up a lot...

but from what I understand most people in Washington feel that Jamison is not the type of power forward they need to win (Maybe ZBO isn’t either, but he has a year less on his deal, and is probably moveable next season). Moreover I was looking at this move for them in light of their financial situation…And while trades this complicated are rare, they are certainly not unprecedented. The Cavs, Bulls and Sonics completed an 11 player deal a year and a half ago…

by johnnyoc21 on Jun 13, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd love every one of those trade

if we didn’t give up Thornton.

I especially love the idea of acquiring Caron and Antwain, but hey, we gotta lose something to gain something.

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jun 13, 2009 1:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Yea Im with you there....

I really like Thornton, and I think he could potentially come out this year and be a big contributor.

  Personally I have long been in the camp that the Clips could come back and be competitive next season without making any drastic moves. Kaman, ZBO Thornton, EJ and Baron is a good lineup. They have their flaws, obviously, but I think they are fixable problems. Then you have griffin and Camby off the bench. We are a weaker than I would like at the backup 1,2,3…but not terrible by any means…

The trade above was just me trying to figure out a somewhat realistic way of bringing in Butler and Rubio, two players I really like…and despite my homer inspired optimism for next years clips, I personally would pull the trigger on this imaginary deal

by johnnyoc21 on Jun 13, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow

even when the other team is getting absolutely fleeced, you still want more…. “i’d do it, as long as we kept thornton and got Jamison along with butler and the #2 pick…. for zbo and camby”

think about that… you get the #2 pick, Jamison, and butler… for Z-Bo and Camby…. and thats the only way you would pull the trigger

wow, just wow

by PippenAintEasy on Jun 13, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great trade for us

I don’t know about the others. I still can’t imagine a 6 player trade, I’m not that creative.

by Qlippers on Jun 13, 2009 4:49 PM PDT reply actions  

pretty bad for washington. Caron Butler and Jamison abnd the #5 pick for Thorntonm, Camby and Zbo ?

this trade doesnt make sense

by andrewexd on Jun 13, 2009 5:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Great trade for Clippers...

Terrible trade for Wizards… Memphis comes out OK if they like Jamison. But Wizards get screwed. Never gonna happen.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jun 13, 2009 7:26 PM PDT reply actions  

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