How about this trade?

by ClipperChuck on Jun 23, 2009 11:54 AM PDT Comment 32 comments

The Spurs just made a huge trade for Richard Jefferson, it got me thinking that they are obviously in a win now mode with Manu and TD in the twilight of their careers.

How about us offering Marcus Camby to them for Roger Mason (potential glue guy), Matt Bonnar (another energy guy off the bench), their two second rounders (can draft some euro prospects or maybe one of the PGs who fell out of the 1st round or a Wayne Ellington/Danny Green type) and a future 1st rounder pick (maybe 2012 or 2013, the Spurs might be rebuilding by then). Both Mason and Bonnar's contracts expire this year so no harm done to our cap space.

Our front office values Kaman over Camby right now, which I think is the right move given their respective ages. I just noticed an opportunity for us to pick up some value future assets and a potential glue guy.

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They’d give us Mason, one of the best 3pt shooters in the league, Bonner their starting Center, and 3 draft picks for Marcus Camby? Doubt it

by C's Up on Jun 23, 2009 12:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd do this deal before the ink dried

by Michael White on Jun 23, 2009 12:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Roger Mason

What do you mean by “glue guy?” Mason wouldn’t provide the depth at small forward that we need and that is typically implied by the label “glue guy.” He’d be a backup SG who would compete for minutes with Mardy Collins. While he’s clearly a better shooter than Collins, I don’t think he is that much of an upgrade or a difference maker.

There’s a good Camby trade out there if the Clips are patient, but this isn’t the right fit at the right time. We just don’t have room on our roster to make a 4 for 1 trade. Somehow this trade is lopsided in the Clippers favor yet still feels like trading for a whole lot of nothing.

Bonner would struggle to find a role on the Clippers. I sure wouldn’t want him stealing minutes from DJ, and I’d rather keep the roster spot open for Novak. The second rounders would struggle to make the team this year. Green and Ellington shouldn’t be available that late. The future 1st rounder is the most useful part of this trade, but I doubt San Antonio would give that up.

by ClipCat on Jun 23, 2009 12:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Not terrible

Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)

by mikey p on Jun 23, 2009 12:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Not good enough

I dont think Mason will have a good season like he did this past year he reminds me of the Machine ( VUJACIC ) one good season and done , Matt Boner what can he bring to the table that we dont have already , if we give them Camby that just makes them a lot more stronger Camby and Timmy would make the Spurs very scary team

by Westball3r98 on Jun 23, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Mason is very debatable, but for two season’s he’s done decent with his shooting touch, so I wouldnt completely rule our Mason. I think we’re finally hearing about Roger Mason because he’s playing for Spurs and not Washington.
Heh, Camby and Timmy would = Timmy inside and Camby shooting perimeter shots. That IS one scary team.

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jun 23, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Need to get rid of Kaman. Mason and Bonner don't provide much value.

by Jerdog on Jun 23, 2009 4:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Some reason your headlines remind me of an airplane company.

Need a Kaman? Ship Kamans anywhere for Tayshaun Prince. Standard Fee’s may apply.

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jun 23, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just listened to the B.S. Report w/ Chad Ford

He made another jab at the clippers, he called blake the most “depressed” No. 1 pick ever.

by Qlippers on Jun 23, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Blake seems pretty happy to me

I think he’ll like LA, plus he has to realize that we will gut our roster to make him and EJ happy.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Jun 23, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

can we please stop talking about BSPN ? its a war you will not win.

by andrewexd on Jun 23, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i would trade griffing and 3 first round picks for durant.

by hans007 on Jun 23, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nah

I wouldn’t make that trade. You need to surround your star player with some talent after all.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Jun 23, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't do that trade either

If all this hype with Griffin is true, then Griffin we should be in good shape to improving big time next year. Imagine if griffin does become the next best thing, how would we feel if we feel? (Not to say that Durant isn’t that good, but Durant hasn’t exactly been francise changing yet.)

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jun 24, 2009 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

on 2nd thought, i think 3 picks would be excessive, but 2 probably I"d do it.

I mean assuming the clips were significantly better with a lineup of say kaman, randolph durant, gordon and baron i’d figure those 2 picks would be in the high teens or 20s. I could live with that. 3 maybe is too much.

by hans007 on Jun 24, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

are you kidding?

by andrewexd on Jun 24, 2009 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would consider

Griffin and Thornton for Durant and the #3.

Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)

by mikey p on Jun 24, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heh

I would take that trade in a heartbeat, too bad OKC would never go for that.

Durant > Griffin

even in a weak draft > Thornton

Presti is a sharp GM, I’m sure he’s as aware of Al’s deficiencies as any GM in the league.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Jun 24, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bleh

Should be #3 pick even in a weak draft > Thornton

sacre bleu!

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Jun 24, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok

then Griffin and AT for KD

Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)

by mikey p on Jun 24, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That would work

We’d even be a playoff team but I can’t see us ever being a contender with Zbo and Kaman as our bigs.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Jun 24, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

It would make it tough.

Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)

by mikey p on Jun 24, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep - no brainer

Despite the fact that, as John R points out, he only shoots 45% and has an unacceptably low WIN score.

Wait a minute, he shot 48% last year and WIN is irrelevant. Do that deal. . . .

by Jax on Jun 24, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well lets do comps

Durant’s upside is…a SF scorer non-playmaker. How about Carmelo? Fair? He isn’t Lebron or even Wade. Or even Kobe.

Griffin’s upside is…Boozer crossed with Amare?

You’d really do that trade? Big/post for small/wing? I wouldn’t. Not at least until I saw Blake play for half a season.

Its a bad trade, no matter the measure.

"So what are the odds that the Clippers can compete next season given their limited flexibility? Slim and none."

by John R on Jun 24, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

if Griffin doesn’t produce for half the season, I doubt OKC would take Blake as a trade bait for Durant.

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jun 25, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I make that trade

because KD fills a need, and he is a producer. He had a top 30 WIN score for the year.

I don’t love a front line of Kaman and ZBo deep into the playoffs, but I think KD will continue to mature enough to overcome it. He is dynamic.

Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)

by mikey p on Jun 25, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can Durant play D yet?

or can Al Thornton score another 34 on him?

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jun 25, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Likewise, my friend

I think KD put in 46 on Al.

Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)

by mikey p on Jun 25, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha! I think

Kevin Durant was more likewise to drop 46 on Al, then Al to drop 34 on Durant.
Or maybe we should have expected it from his D…

??? Confused? LOL

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jun 25, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

They could both use some work

Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)

by mikey p on Jun 25, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heh

That’s probably why KD is not top 15 yet. (Overall)
D is too important to overlook.

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jun 26, 2009 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thumbs Down!

why was this even brought up! it’s a waste time…. we have the shooters they just need to get it together.. i mean c’mon you guys are Clipper fans right!?

by clippersnomatterwhat on Jun 25, 2009 8:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs