Yao possibly being out creates new trade opportunity?
by Clip Show on Jun 29, 2009 11:27 AM PDT
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According to this article from Yahoo, Yao is probably out this whole upcoming year, and quite possibly be done for his career. Does this all of a sudden make the Rockets the Clippers number one target for a trade partner? With Yao out, how attractive do Kaman or Camby look to them?....I want to say VERY attractive.
The Rockets are going to be hurting immensely from a lack of a center, and the Clippers just happen to have a glut of them. Now, if only the Clippers could get Battier in return (the proverbial consumate glue guy). This may turn out to be a win win situation for both.
I am all for trading Kaman if the prize is Battier, but I am not sure if the Rockets can include a PG/SG in the trade as well (it appears they are pretty thin at that position), but as the article states, they have been offering both Brooks AND Battier in some recent proposed trades. Does Kaman (and a pick?) for Battier and Brooks make sense? Or would you rather have Kyle Lowrey instead of Brooks (I think I would)? The trade machine says it works.
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I would take any mixture
of Kaman, Camby, and a future pick for Battier and Brooks/Lowry.
http://lucasnbablog.blogspot.com/
by LJ Hann on Jun 29, 2009 11:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well sure, you would
You have the all time bromance with Battier – not that there’s anything wrong with that.
But in this case, I agree.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jun 29, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHA
So apparently Steve has even noticed. LJ Battier.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
by JackduhSun on Jun 29, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey...
Battier is worthy of a crush. The dude just helps you win ball games.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jun 29, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that your bromance also?
or is there somebody else you want to play “ball games with” (:
sorry just wanted to play around a bit (:
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
by JackduhSun on Jun 29, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, coincidentally, LJ Battier is sort of Lyrical
L-J, Batti-er!!!
http://lucasnbablog.blogspot.com/
by LJ Hann on Jun 29, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also This should be a FanShot
because it links to the Yahoo Sports article.
http://lucasnbablog.blogspot.com/
by LJ Hann on Jun 29, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh no...
fan shot are for links only. This is a question to Clips Nation regarding an article…with other websites also referenced.
Do or do not. There is no try.
by Clip Show on Jun 29, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is a link in it
To a Yahoo article.
http://lucasnbablog.blogspot.com/
by LJ Hann on Jun 29, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because
you link an article in a fan post does not mean it’s supposed to be a fanshot. It’s not that cut and dry. If you are just trying to link to an article or photo or video and thats it, then yes…it’s a fanshot. But if you link something and you have a point to make about it or want to expand on what the article was saying, then make it a fanpost.
Do or do not. There is no try.
by Clip Show on Jun 29, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see how we could get both Battier and a PG
In previous trade rumours, the reason Brooks was leaving is because they were getting back a PG back; Ricky Rubio.
Unless we send them Baron too, which I cant imagine they would want, I don’t see why they would send us a PG.
by Michael White on Jun 29, 2009 11:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Clips will need to take Chuck Hayes or Brent Barry
for da Rockets to accept.
by tomkanti on Jun 29, 2009 11:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
nooooo i cant watch chuck hayes shoot a free throw more than 3 times a year
by andrewexd on Jun 29, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would accept either Hayes or Barry
Hayes is an OK post defender, and guarded gasol well, and Barry is like novak + 10yrs and – 5% points from 3
http://lucasnbablog.blogspot.com/
by LJ Hann on Jun 29, 2009 11:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Brent Barry back in a LAC jersey?
I’d accept it.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
by JackduhSun on Jun 29, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they could sneak him into the dunk contest next year along with Fred Jones?
Stuck in limbo.
by PaperClip on Jun 29, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blake might go if they allow rookies to compete also.
Wow can we picture that?
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
by JackduhSun on Jun 29, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unbelieveable.
All this time I’ve been picturing Battier as the ideal glue guy we would need, but that Houston would never give him up. Now that the Yao situatuion is backing them into a corner, this could very well happen. Shane was always my first choise, followed by Tayshaun Prince. C’mon Dunleavy, don’t f this up!
Schadenfreude is a b!tch, but we deserve a little good luck, Lord knows we’ve earned it around here.
by Gordon for President on Jun 29, 2009 12:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Battier is
the ideal small forward for just about any team. When I say that, I mean what you typically want from the 3 position (not including stars). The guy is the perfect glue guy that will give you a little bit of everything, but the most important stat that he contributes to is wins. He has a great head on his shoulders, great work ethic, and would bring balance to this roster. I know that many (including myself) would like to see Camby stay on the team to help tutor our youth. IMO Battier is probably an even better role model for them look up to in regards of how you should present yourself.
It is unfortunate that Yao may miss some significant time and possibly more, but it is also an opportunity for both us and Houston to improve our situations.
On a side note, It is kind of funny when people talk about Blake and his wingspan/reach, when Battier’s is very comparable to Griffin’s.
by Lawler 4ever on Jun 29, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Battier
He is the type of guy that seems okay with starting or coming off the bench.
by sqrebck on Jun 29, 2009 1:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
HOUSTON! we.... don't have a problem?
this deal seems like a no-brainer for the clippers and Houston. honestly i think any of our bigs are worth more than rubio, ESPECIALLY with Yao out for a long time. I dont see any other teams that can make an obviously better trade then us. i might actually get my hopes up about this one haha
by AtotheZ on Jun 29, 2009 1:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats a really interesting take
But what are they looking for? An answer at C? A rental at C and a salary dump just to get through the year?
With their success against the Lakers and the Rockets’ reputation for use of advanced stats, one might wonder if they wouldn’t feel comfortable standing pat anyway?
What’s the POINT of them acquiring a starting C? I’m not saying there isn’t one, but what is it? Its not so clear. They were competitive without Yao, they are already in great salary shape, and Battier isn’t a big salary problem.
by John R on Jun 29, 2009 2:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
it all really depends on if McGrady comes back healthy, or as just a shell of his former self. The Rockets have decent talent on their team, but if they were to lose both Tracy and Yao for next season, and have their go to guy be Artest, then I think they are in trouble. Getting a player like Kaman allows them to plug him into Yao’s spot, and the drop off in production won’t be that bad (for a healthy Kaman of course).
It’s a good point you make, and I know from a Clipper’s perspective it looks almost apparent that the Rockets need a center. But as you point out, maybe they feel they can live without one.
Do or do not. There is no try.
by Clip Show on Jun 29, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do they intend to sign Artest even?
Didn’t they get him for one year as a free agent? They don’t have his Bird rights and they are over the cap by my quick assessment. If they can’t retain Artest how can they let Battier go, and letting Battier go doesn’t help them retain Artest.
So many questions in Houston right now.
by John R on Jun 29, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Many Houston fans will like Camby
If they want to compete they wont mind the center who can lead them there and if he fails will come off the books the next year.
by tomkanti on Jun 29, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't realize
Artest was a FA. Wow…they are going to be in a world of hurt if Yao and McGrady are out for any amount of time and Artest isnt back. Battier is a great glue guy, but not necessarily someone you build a team around. I mean, can the guy even create his own shot on offense? Is Houston over-valuing Battier…or am I under-valuing him? It’s probably somewhere in the middle. They have some nice young guys, but no go to scorer on that team. Like you said, so many questions….
Do or do not. There is no try.
by Clip Show on Jun 29, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
Well I always forget about the normal free agent exemption. The Rockets can offer up to like 8.8M for Artest, so unless one of the few 10M teams offers their full space, he’ll probably be a Rocket.
But does that mean they are more, less or same, likely to keep Battier? And if you are Artest, do you like what you see from the Rockets future right this second?
by John R on Jun 29, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Rockets were practically
the only team that gave Artest a chance, even if it was for a year. Artest was on his best behavior, so I would think that Artest wouldn’t mind coming back again.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
by JackduhSun on Jun 29, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bird rights follow the player
since Artest has never been waived, his current team owns his bird rights and can go over the cap to sign him. I don’t know the Rockets current cap situation, so I can’t comment on that.
by dc5dugg on Jun 29, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We NEED Battier and getting Brent Barry back after all these years would be nice too. With Mutombo and Yao both down and out in Houston, Kaman should definitely have some appeal…
by banandy on Jun 29, 2009 2:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't Think This Would Ever Happen
Unless the Rockets get back some serious talent and prospects, they aren’t trading Battier. I wouldn’t put him in the untouchable category, but he’s somewhere near there for them. From the things I’ve read about GM Daryl Morey who plays Moneyball with the Rockets, he isn’t likely to give up the Lebron James of the Moneyball league for your surface 20/10 guy or an aging solid weak-side defending shotblocker. Sorry but I just don’t think guys like Kaman, Randolph or Camby fit the mold of his program. Not saying it’s not going to happen, it just doesn’t seem likely.
p.s. It’s interesting to note that Morey traded for Chase Budinger after Detroit snagged him midway through the second round for a future second round pick. Watching him as a student at the University of Arizona, I got to see him do things that weren’t shown on Sportscenter. He’s completely underrated as an athlete, and he’s the type of player that’s going to shine in the Rockets system: Guys that do things for the team that aren’t shown in Ast / Points / Rebound categories. I still think we should have made a play for a late first round / second round pick just to grab the dude. Seeing the Rockets make a draft-day trade for him just bolsters my belief that we should have, after seeing what they’ve done with their system over the last few years in finding talent where there seems to be none.
by MarekTheBrave on Jun 29, 2009 2:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good points...
But I think the whole situation with Yao changes everything for the Rockets. First, it appears Yao is out this year, and may never be back. Second, what is McGrady’s health going to be like after he comes back from surgery? All of a sudden, their two superstars are hurt and aging at a pretty fast pace.
That leaves Battier, Artest, Brooks and Scola to build around. I think if I am the Rockets GM, I need to find young talent, and now. I think Kaman would fit in well in their system too (Camby not so much). They are very accustomed to throwing the ball down low to Yao and letting him do his thing. I don’t see a huge change (for the worse) by plugging Kaman in there.
You may be right in that they will want more in return than just Kaman. The Clips could always throw in that Minny first rounder or something else to sweeten the pot. I just think the Rockets are going to be in a world of hurt if they don’t have a center on their team on opening day.
Do or do not. There is no try.
by Clip Show on Jun 29, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I forgot to mention...
Budinger could be the next Battier…so in that sense, the Rockets have already drafted to replace him, so if worse came to worse, Battier could become expendable.
Do or do not. There is no try.
by Clip Show on Jun 29, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
For me it just seems that Battier is more valuable to that team than any other, including McGrady (maybe not Yao, but close), especially after their performance in this year’s playoffs. He isn’t just a player that excels at his position, he makes the game easier for every one of his teammate’s on the floor. I’m not sure I buy into the rumors that Battier was in the mix for the trade for Rubio’s pick (Now TMac I believe). There’s no doubt they need a center, but I feel like they can obtain a pretty good one without giving up Battier. But if they have found Battier’s replacement in Budinger, then they theoretically could squeeze for Kaman and Minny’s pick (which might end up being pretty valuable) for Battier. Not sure Budinger is on that level yet, but they could be looking to the future.
by MarekTheBrave on Jun 29, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Battier
what good is battier if there is no Artest, no Yao and a hobbled McGrady? I guess my point is that in order to compete, they will need to resign Artest, and then find more players to take up the scoring slack created by the absence of Yao and possible absence of Tracy. They will still have their lock down defender in Artest (although he IS aging), and Kaman could possibly make up most of the scoring and rebounding difference from Yao. I know I am looking at through Clipper colored glasses here, but things in Houston can unravel quite quickly if these injury reports are true (eerily similar to what happened to the Clippers last year, I might add).
Do or do not. There is no try.
by Clip Show on Jun 29, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree Marek, i dont think battier is untouchable at all i mean they were willing to trade him and brookes for Rubio. yes they were competitive w/o Yao and mutumbo in the post season but can they play a whole season like this?? i think not. They need a big man imo
by AtotheZ on Jun 29, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends how much you believed that trade rumor...
Giving up Battier for Rubio seemed nuts to me… and not a Daryl Morey-like move.
by swamigusto on Jun 29, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless Morey's burning down the franchise and rebuilding...
It is a possibility, as Wojnarowski projects….
by swamigusto on Jun 29, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same
It just doesn’t seem like something he would try and pull. This trade sounds nervous to me, not thought out and planned like most of the moves Morey has made in the last few years. Seems like it would unravel everything they have been building towards.
by MarekTheBrave on Jun 29, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They only missed Yao for five games
and did ok, but for 82 games + post season (if they get there) they need a legit center.
by tomkanti on Jun 29, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting
but I feel like they can obtain a pretty good one without giving up Battier
probably. we’ll see i guess but i do see them picking up a big man in the near future if they want to make/be competitive in the playoffs and the clipps (conveniently) are looking to unload one. However, i dont see the clipps taking anything less then battier from them. soooooo.. maybe a deal wont happen with Houston? , but i wouldnt be too surprised if it did
by AtotheZ on Jun 29, 2009 3:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
correction
i wouldnt be too surprised if it happened*
by AtotheZ on Jun 29, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very Intersting
I’ll make the deal now dont even wait Kaman straight up for Battier / Brooks can you imagine a lineup of
Baron
EG
Battier
ZBo
Camby
Subs
Thorton
Griffin
Pretty Ricky
Brooks
by Westball3r98 on Jun 29, 2009 3:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
we'd be crazy
to start ZBo over Griffin. I know he’s a rookie, but he’s the #1 pick by far and ZBo would be the better 6th man
by DocD on Jun 29, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that Zbo should come off the bench, but not for the "#1 pick" argument.
Zbo is a great offensive scorer, no quesitons asked. But his defense isn’t so sweet. Not that I’m saying his defense is THAT bad( although it kinda is), I’m sure Zbo has a greater value doing 13 off the bench, which i can see him doing in 25 mins.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
by JackduhSun on Jun 29, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My argument isn't that he should
start just because he was the #1 pick. The point is that I think right now he is better than ZBo, the fact that he was the #1 pick just adds to that point. You start your best 5, and ZBo can be instant offense off the bench. But that does look like a very good team with Battier in there
by DocD on Jun 29, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt thatBlake's offensive game is better than Randolph.
No way in my mind. Randolph will provide that offensive punch off the bench, but we’re going to have to see. I think Blake should come off the bench a few games just to polish things up a bit.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
by JackduhSun on Jun 29, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But O+D
Makes Griffin better than Randolph.
http://lucasnbablog.blogspot.com/
by LJ Hann on Jun 29, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not yet it isn't
Randolphs been in the NBA for a while being a top scorer. Blake’s fresh our of NCAA. Until Blake adapts and learns a bit more from the coaching staff, Randolph edges Blake by a hair.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
by JackduhSun on Jun 29, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they would NOT give Battier AND Brooks for Kaman
But Kaman for Battier is a possibility.
http://lucasnbablog.blogspot.com/
by LJ Hann on Jun 29, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did I miss something?
Who is Pretty Ricky? Not Davis II, right?
by cf on Jun 29, 2009 3:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Must be talking about
Paul. Jk.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
by JackduhSun on Jun 29, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like a fair trade, if they keep Artest...
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5155310
'Cause how you play, is how you'll be remembered. PLAY LOUD!
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 29, 2009 3:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that is way lopsided for us
they would probably make us throw in a pick or another player I don’t see them taking that.
In Gordon we trust
by bestclipfan on Jun 29, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Camby+ 1st Round Pick for Battier
Is a trade that might go down.
http://lucasnbablog.blogspot.com/
by LJ Hann on Jun 29, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is a bit more realistic
but even then I’m not sure they would also give up Brent Barry. And if this did happen I’m guessing Novak is gone seeing has there isn’t much difference between him and Barry’s game.
In Gordon we trust
by bestclipfan on Jun 29, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Novak or Berry.
Novak. Too many bingos last season from Novak so that’s a clear bias. (:
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
by JackduhSun on Jun 29, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Berry has more experience
and he can shoot off the dribble which Novak can’t or won’t do.
In Gordon we trust
by bestclipfan on Jun 29, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I stated
I’m a bit bias when it comes to this question. Haha.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
by JackduhSun on Jun 29, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly what I was going to say..
Barry is old! Giving up Barry is not really giving up much.
'Cause how you play, is how you'll be remembered. PLAY LOUD!
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 30, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buthe has like a 3-year 5mil deal
that they could dump.
http://lucasnbablog.blogspot.com/
by LJ Hann on Jul 1, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not much difference?
Barry doesn’t shoot as well as Novak, but has a much better handle, is more athletic, and is a terrific passer. He’s just old. But you’re right in that they probably can’t really afford both.
by swamigusto on Jun 30, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so i just saw something on ESPN on Yao and apparently Houston wont be making a deal for a while. they’re getting all kinds of second opinions and it appears that they wont be making any moves until they have a specific timetable for Yao
by AtotheZ on Jun 29, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i think i rather trade the caveman. have camby for the year with DJ backing him up. after the season, if Camby walks, we’ll have DJ as our starter with zbo or blake moving over to relieve.
by bigolbad on Jun 29, 2009 3:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Idiots
U guys are Idiots man, come on. Cant u see, thats the Clippers problem right there wanting to trade off guys at the first sign of a possible trade. Keep the guys u have. They are all Pros. Get the coaching, management, and loyal fans (like me) and things happen. WE need the passion. Van Gundy maybe? Just stop the trade dumb talks Imean it does make for good convo but stick to plan guys!!!!
by OurYear2010 on Jun 29, 2009 4:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
By sticking to the plan
you mean the same plan that saw the Clippers win 19 games last year? That really worked out well….
Seriously though, if trading one of the big men for a solid glue guy (and solid pro in Battier) presents itself, and doesn’t affect the overall direction of the Clippers (in a negative way), why not go for it? As it is and has been talked about at length here, the Clippers have a glut of big men, and are in the drivers seat when it comes to trading away their assest, if need be. I don’t think anyone here is saying make a trade just to do it (as you imply). If any trades are made, they are to help the team out now and in the future. No salary dumps really.
This has nothing to do with being a loyal fan or passion. It’s actually about exploring all feasible options to make your team better. And if you haven’t noticed, the management/coach isn’t going anywhere for the time being.
Do or do not. There is no try.
by Clip Show on Jun 29, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I don’t think it’s idiotic to explore trades that would make the team more competitive. In fact, this is what the best teams do: constantly shape their teams to fit the trends and molds of the ever changing gameplay of the NBA. If the Clippers have a buildup of talent on one side of the court, isn’t it natural to see if we can parlay that talent to all aspects of the court through trades? If anything it’s probably ignorant to think that your team doesn’t need any changes to its roster. Few teams have this luxury, and the ones that do are smart enough to know that their roster will need to account for the trades and drafting other teams go through during the offseason.
by MarekTheBrave on Jun 29, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you talking about
OurYear we become way better by trading one of our big men. If we can bag Battier it makes our team way way better. 1st it allows us to bring Al off the bench 2nd it gives more minutes to Blake 3rd it gives a huge defenisve presence. Forget about changing management it is not going to happen so we should make our team as good as possible and filling the holes at the 1,2 and 3.
In Gordon we trust
by bestclipfan on Jun 29, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did he just call us idiots?
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
by JackduhSun on Jun 29, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
cause he is one
Maybe he is worse than DTS. I never thought this day would come. (tears of amazement)
http://lucasnbablog.blogspot.com/
by LJ Hann on Jun 29, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL LJ Hann
Your an idiot! Apparently so am I. Since we’re such idiots, we should just get Battier already.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
by JackduhSun on Jun 29, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If were idiots what does that make some
of the Laker fans I met. lol
In Gordon we trust
by bestclipfan on Jun 29, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to say,
but it rhymes with poptart.
Heh that’s actually a tough one cause they don’t rhyme that much… (:
okay I’ll give, retard.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
by JackduhSun on Jun 29, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're all idiots!!!! Who Knew!!!!
That’s why we are some of the most respected community members!!!!!
http://lucasnbablog.blogspot.com/
by LJ Hann on Jun 29, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Y'know who else is an idiot??
Einstien.
http://lucasnbablog.blogspot.com/
by LJ Hann on Jun 29, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt Houston would make the trade
A Battier and Brooks trade for Rubio signifies that Houston is rebuilding. They’ll trade him for Rubio because they aren’t expecting to compete in the next few years, and when they are ready to compete a developed Rubio is worth more than an aging Battier.
A trade for a center signifies that they are trying to compete. If they are trying to compete then they want to keep Battier.
Basically, the only players I see Houston trading Battier for are prospects.
by seanbergmanrules on Jun 29, 2009 5:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
whether they want to compete now or later, they still need a center and LA has 2 solid ones they are willing to part with. however, LA’s not their only possible trading option. it is an obvious one though
by AtotheZ on Jun 29, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see the rockets giving up Battier, ever.
by andrewexd on Jun 30, 2009 1:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i think if we really want to build for the future, and basically blow up the team… i would not be completely against a kaman AND randolph trade to the rockets, or a camby and randolph trade to the rockets.
I think either I would be ok with just to get deandre more time , though I really am not too happy with kaman (he is a better “asset” as a player than camby since he’s young and signed for what is considered reasonable for a starting center, but he just doesnt care which i hate).
i mean 2 of our big men , for tmac and shane. The salaries even match up more or less.
Tmac we could never even bother playing and could just release, or re-trade him at the allstar break since he wont be ready after microfracture anyway. and shane only has 2 years left on his deal. The expiring tmac deal is bigger than camby’s expiring deal so we woudl still be players in the 2010 sweepstakes (its like 14 million larger). And battier’s deal ends the same year as zach’s so cap wise its not much of a difference anyway (other than tmac is worthless, and camby, kaman + randolph are actaully not cripples, but yeah)
Now it seems like we would be giving up “too much”, but think about the other benefits of it. You’d be letting deandre play say 20 min a game , blake would get all the minutes he could eat, and it would really set the team up for 2 years down the road (just as the battier deal is expiring). And who knows who you sign in 2010 / 2011 as free agents.
I think sam presti or something would do it this way. Unfortunately dunleavy is our coach.
by hans007 on Jun 30, 2009 6:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
opps, i meant dunleavy is our GM. he is also our coach, but I think if he were just our GM he would have a more long term goal in mind. Pat riley would sabotage the long term for the short when he was coaching AND gm as well. Now that he’s just a GM he’s building a future again.
by hans007 on Jun 30, 2009 6:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
U guys are my fellow Clipper buddies. I mean that. I dont want to upset anybody . And i guess your right if trading off just one big man (Camby) if trading jus one can help reorganize the team, then by all means go for it. I just got caught in the moment. Usually i have to defend my team from punk #$% Laker fans who jumped back on the banwagon when the great Shaq arrived in 97
by OurYear2010 on Jun 30, 2009 7:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it is okay
no hard feelings. But I do agree with you that we should only trade a big man for players that can help us. I don’t think we should salary dump like has been suggested at times if we can fill some holes at the 1,2 and 3 we can be a very dangerous team. Although that does assume Dunleavy uses the team right but we can hope.
In Gordon we trust
by bestclipfan on Jun 30, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha.
Its okay. There HAS been talks about Randolph being dealt for nothing. I don’t think many people in Clipper Nation agree with dealing Randolph to Memphis for Buckner, Lima, and Arthur. We need something in return.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
by JackduhSun on Jun 30, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The trade that makes sense is...
Kaman or Camby (probably Kaman due to him actually having more than 1 yr left in his contract) for Battier and Barry.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kke9no
Of course for a team to take Kaman’s salary, it could mean that we would have to give up a future 1st rounder to make the trade work.
With the trade our lineup would be…
Davis
Gordon
Battier
Griffin
Camby
Randolph (1st big in)
Thornton (1st 2 or 3 in)
Jordan/Novak (depending on matchups/necessities)
Taylor
And well, with that lineup… I would say our rotation can take on ANYONE in the league. Only thing we might need is a decent backup PG.
by kle18 on Jun 30, 2009 11:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually
*Only thing s if Houston is willing to make that trade.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
by JackduhSun on Jun 30, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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