The Z-Bo Gone Effect

by moKi on Jul 1, 2009 6:58 PM PDT Comment 37 comments

Thank you, Memphis!

With Zach Randolph heading east, the clouded clipper roster may soon take a more solid state. So what next?

MUST SIGN NOVAK

1. NOW, re-signing Novak makes sense. With Z-Bo, BG, Flippy, Camby, DJ and Skinner on the roster I could not see the Clips matching any offer to sign a guy that couldn't play the 3 spot. I just could not see it no matter how many times Perrin wrote it. But now with Skinner opting out and Memphis magically making Z-Bo disappear - THEY NEED TO SIGN NOVAK.

Why? Z-Bo oddly enough was the only other 4 who could shoot from outside with any consistency. He made quite a few 3s last season (his decision to launch those 3s not being debated here). But his corner 3s were an important part of the offense when he got pushed way out, or ended up there on a broken play.

As much as Phil thought Radman was a space cadet, I though Vlad filled a great role as a Clipper 4 who could shoot the long ball. Compared to Novak I think Vlad had a better slash and dunk move, but Novak seems to be a far superior shooter. Everyone remembers how deadly he was, but I also remember those games where he went 0 for whatever. Dunleavy may have the luxury of using him more wisely, taking him out of games where he's not connecting.

GIVE MARDY A CHANCE

2. Everyone can now calm down. Seems many Clip fans are worried about getting a gluey small forward. I say fooey to the gluey. I really, really liked the play of Mardy Colins and I have faith in him. He is still young and he is deceptively agile. I remember quite a few games where I watched him get by people in slow motion - almost like how Sam Cassell got by some guys - not everybody, but enough to make a living. I think he showed himself to be a decent defender and a willing passer. Give the guy a chance. Plus there's still that Thornton kid with so much potential...

SIGN FRED JONES

3.Why sign Fred Jones? See dunk vs. the Knicks @ Staples. How did no other team in the league sign him last year? Former slam dunk champ, able to knock down end of clock 3s over and over again. Remember his explanation of how he was so clutch? "I don't get the ball unless no one else has a shot and usually there's no time left to do anything but shoot it." Haha. Awesome. When Eric needs a breather Jones will be a perfect backup.

I WANT SHAUN BACK

4. Hey they're getting Q Rich back, let's make it a reunion tour and get Livingston back too! Wouldn't it be nice to see Shaun back in a Clipper jersey? He needs to finish what he started here in L.A. and make his comeback in front of fans that are really pulling for him. Plus I want to see all those crazy passes and lobs he used to throw to Wheezy, now going to Blake Griffin! Bullet passes, no look, behind the back, through the legs passes to Gordon, Blake, Camby, Baron.... 6'7" Point Guard out of Peoria, Illinois (The crowd roars!)

So in my semi-reality based dreams....My 2009-2010 Clippers!

PG: Baron Davis, Mike Taylor, Shaun Livingston
SG: Eric Gordon, Fred Jones, Quentin Richardson
SF: Al Thornton, Mardy Collins, Quentin Richardson
PF: Blake Griffin, Steve Novak, Marcus Camby
C: Marcus Camby, Chris Kaman, DeAndre Jordan

Benched in dress suit for entire season: Ricky Davis

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wow, moKi. you had me all excited.

i was joyous reading how we agree about Mardy and Steve.

but, you had to bring up Livinngston. i cry just thinking about him blooming, while wearing a jersey without “clippers” on the front. and, i never really see him returning “home.”

by falconPUNCH on Jul 1, 2009 7:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

livingston

I love that kid and hope we can get him back here where he belongs.

by ChrisS.Oaks on Jul 1, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brilliant, I love the...

trade and the fact that Q RIch, Camby, Novak, R. Davis, and Collins all come off the salary cap next summer. I would rather have Q on the perimeter—- which was a concern of Dunleavy— and now we will have so much cap space without Zach committed for 2 years. 33 million vs 9 million is a no brainer. Most importantly of all it allows, for Blake to develop more quickly and be thrown into mix, much like D. Rose was last year.
Add the Clips to 2010 free agent market players.

by ChrisS.Oaks on Jul 1, 2009 7:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

LOL Pretty Ricky! he can be our “Mark Madsen”

by bigolbad on Jul 1, 2009 7:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Somebody clear this up for me

This trade cant be for JUST Q. … can it?

If it was, i like it. If we add in Darko or Bucker or Lima.. then forget it. I hate it. (Unless they are 1 year deals and wont ever return to the team again.)

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jul 1, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

just for Q. Great deal in my opinion…
“fooey the gluey”!!! – loved that

by besaje on Jul 1, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow.

Speechless. Honestly, I would have rather kept Randolph than Kaman only because Kaman seems to always disappoint me, day in and day out. (Last season atleast.) Atleast Randolph provided that offensive spark whenever nobody else was able to score. Buts alls done and I’m hoping we can still compete. If not, 2010…Chris Bosh please. (But Dwayne Wade is a great player also!)

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jul 1, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kaman has more trade Value and his stock is simply too low right now. also, trading Kaman doesnt really help our making time for Griffin.

by andrewexd on Jul 2, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice work moKi

Yes on Novak.

Yes on Mardy C. The question is whether you start him in front of Thornton, to make Thornton the scorer off the bench, playing the bulk of the minutes. Kind of a training camp, preseason question.

Yes on Fred Jones. The question now is who is better, Q or Fred. I’m inclined to say Fred, but we’ve seen Q be quite effective in the right circumstances, and he’ll be playing for his next deal. Is there anybody out there better than Fred Jones?

Qualified yes on Liv. He has interesting possibilities as a glue guy. He’s a good strong contrast to Taylor. He’s showing no signs of being a starter anywhere, which might have been one of his reasons to turn down the Clipper deal and go to Miami, where it didn’t work out. Not sure about his deal at OKC—is he a free agent? At any rate, not a bad idea for the 13th or 14th spot.

by citizen zhiv on Jul 1, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

citizen chiv

i think its probably been quite a while since Q has been effective. For the first time, I might have to say that you might be giving somebody to much credit (Q.) I’m starting to think that Q might be getting a bit washed up.

Btw, I dont think Shaun is FA. I remember OKC signing Shaun to a pretty good deal last year towards the end of the year. ( Somewhere around 2-4 years.)

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jul 1, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Darn JackduhSun

Why do you have to burst my bubble! We want Shaun back! Maybe OKC could take Ricky and Big Greek for Shaun…..

by moKi on Jul 1, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha, Shaun was pretty good coming back the last game of OKC

I was especially surprised by this one dunk he had.

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jul 1, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That dunk was SICK!

but man was that a horrible game for us.

by hip2clip on Jul 1, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kaman

With the glut of big men alleviated (somewhat) for the time being, does this mean Kaman is off the trading block for now? Are the Clippers going to give him one more year to prove himself worthy of his contract? We all know about MDsr and his man-panionship with Kaman..or is it man-love…whatever.
I want to say that aside from possibly getting someone for the mid-level, resigning Novak and FJones, the Clips are done for this offseason. And frankly, that sits pretty well with me.

Do or do not. There is no try.

by Clip Show on Jul 1, 2009 9:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Would not mind at all if...

Kaman only earns 15 min/game with the rest of it going to Camby and DJ. He needs to perform or get used to the doghouse.

by banandy on Jul 1, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kaman is our only true low post presence. I predict a big year from him.

by bigolbad on Jul 1, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, but he can’t be allowed to post terrible games where he goes 2 for 10 and commits 4+ turnovers and think he’s entitled minutes or even be the starter

by banandy on Jul 1, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kaman sucks and doesn't care. Should have kept Randolph.....

by Jerdog on Jul 1, 2009 11:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking the same

but whatever. More money?

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jul 1, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

LEBRON IN LA 2010

but on the right team hahahahahaha

http://lucasnbablog.blogspot.com/

by LJ Hann on Jul 2, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

bill simmons thinks so too

http://twitter.com/sportsguy33/statuses/2433175176

by STUCK IN LA on Jul 2, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

boy even bill simmons is thinking about it

by XXDC2XX on Jul 2, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have a secret...

I am Bill Simmons-Bill Simmons+LJ Hann,

http://lucasnbablog.blogspot.com/

by LJ Hann on Jul 2, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So you are Bill Simmons

and Battier’s son??? lol

In Gordon we trust

by bestclipfan on Jul 2, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Im also

A trace of Dwight Howard with a little dash of Steve Nash.

http://lucasnbablog.blogspot.com/

by LJ Hann on Jul 2, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Simmons doesn't realize

Al Thornton is under contract next year too. Not that it matters in the fantasy of going after LeBron.

Simmons being a little nutty right now.

by citizen zhiv on Jul 2, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whoa Whoa Whoa

I know that Thornton is under contract, so watch yourself, Zhivago!!!

http://lucasnbablog.blogspot.com/

by LJ Hann on Jul 2, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

only if the Clippers pick up his option (they will).

by andrewexd on Jul 2, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wasn't Fred part of the Indiana team

when they had a fight at the Palace?

by tomkanti on Jul 2, 2009 11:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

but he was the one pulling Ron Artest away from fans while being hit by fans. Respectful and graceful act for not hitting the fans back even while the fans were beating on him.

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jul 2, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

and he won the 2004 dunk contest

by andrewexd on Jul 2, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i also want shaun back

by XXDC2XX on Jul 2, 2009 4:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

PG: Baron Davis, Mike Taylor, Shaun Livingston
SG: Eric Gordon, Fred Jones, Quentin Richardson
SF: Al Thornton, Mardy Collins, Quentin Richardson
PF: Blake Griffin, Steve Novak, Marcus Camby
C: Marcus Camby, Chris Kaman, DeAndre Jordan

That’s a 19-win team if ever I saw one.

On one hand, I’m happy about the cap flexibility that the Z-Bo trade gives the clips. But what are they gonna’ do with it? And where are Z’s 23 and 10 going to come from until then?

The current roster can’t compete in the west. I sure hope there’s another FA move coming.

by keown100 on Jul 3, 2009 12:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I disagree

if healthy this is a very strong team. You can get points from Blake but Blake also gives you much better defense then Zbo ever gave you. I think the big thing will be which Baron we get. If we get last seasons bad Baron then we are screwed but if Baron lives up to how hard he has been working out and plays more like he did in his playoff run then we could definitely be a very good team.

In Gordon we trust

by bestclipfan on Jul 3, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think thats what keown100 could be looking at

If Baron plays like he did lat season, defintiley roughly a 19 win team. If Baron is GSW+NOH Baron(and we run a fast pace offense), then we have ourselves a 30-40 win team.

Oh btw, Marucs Camby and Chris Kaman is often hurt so don’t rely on them to play 82 games.

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jul 3, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And, of course, I hope you’re right and I’m wrong. If Baron and Marcus have career years, if Kaman stays healthy, if Griffin finds his way quickly (say something like Brook Lopez’s rookie year), then maybe this team can win 35 games. But that’s a lot of ifs, and I don’t see all those things happening.

I would feel much better with a stud at the 3. Hedo sure woulda’ looked good in a Clipper uniform.

by keown100 on Jul 3, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs