NBA Summer League - Blake Griffin's Pro Debut
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 5:23 PM PDT
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PrintSo, the Allen Iverson rumor has stolen a bit of the Clipper oxygen here, but that will be forgotten in a few minute. Believe it or not, I have courtside, right at midcourt, for Blake Griffin's first game. So I guess that's pretty cool. I'm not sure where the camera positions are, but look for me on the TV feed.
Commissioner David Stern is in the house, for what it's worth - as is Donald T. Sterling.
At this moment, Sterling, Andy Roeser and Neil Olshey are deep in conversation - wonder what they're talking about? Then again, super fan Jimmy Goldstein is in the discussion as well, so I doubt it's super-secret trade related. This place is pretty amazing. Every time you turn around, you see someone else. Speaking of which, there's Ralph Lawler.
The Clippers are taking the floor to warm up. Looks like the only brought the 10 guys they originally announced. Griffin is apparently planning on making the dramatic entrance. He and DJ aren't out yet.
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watching Paul Davis playing for Toronto right now is depressing.
Imaging he was playing large minutes for us is difficult.
he's getting shoved around by rookie and d-leaguers
and he’s air-ba;;ed the only shot i’ve seen him take
Yes and no...
I’m here… I’m connected. I’ll blog it… but I’m going to be watching a lot also.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
DeAndre
Hey Steve, can you comment on DeAndre’s physique? Ralph claimed he is all filled out and looks like he’s 280lbs. He said he looks like a young Shaq.
He looks much the same to me...
Less baby fat, but he still has work to do.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Clippers starters...
Griffin at Center. NCM at the 4 and Banks at the 3. Not sure why DJ would not be starting. Taylor and Gordon are the backcourt.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Lakers are small
So probably they’re just matching up small. No one for DJ to guard out there.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Here you go...
for reals.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Clipper Darrell
With the let’s go Clippers chant, first possession.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Griffin
Two touches, two buckets
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
And then...
The three. Are you kidding?
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
He clearly wants to put on a show.
He grabbed the rebound and headed up court. Unfortunately, he got the ball stolen.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
7-3
That’s right. 7 for Griffin…
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
9-3
With EJs free throws.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Griffin matched up
against his college teammate Elonu.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Clippers coaching staff for this...
is Hughes, Vinson and Bown, the new guy. Jasen Powell is there also of course.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Jordan checks in
at 6:25 for Sean Banks. this is the lineup I thought we’d see.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Ralph is watching
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
A lot of Clipper fans
in the house.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Gordon...
has ended up on Morrison on a couple of possessions. I think it was on a switch. I’ll pay more attention to see if that’s haw they’re playing it…
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Interesting...
looks like that’s how they’re matched up. NCM on Alan Anderson.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Taylor
Out of control… I said it before, Summer League may bring out the worst in him.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Please David Stern stop talking. No one cares about Poland………. or Gortat…. or the NBA….. or expanding TV deals
Taylor rochestie
In the house… Go Wazzu Cougs!
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
and now
Aaron Baynes. With Morrison, it’s a northeast Washington thing.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
See the earlier thread
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Taylor...
with the oop to EJ.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Obviously
He has to work on that.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Taylor is no PG
Every time I watch him play it’s infuriating. There’s no way he’ll last in this league. Absolutely out of control most of the time and makes bad decisions regularly. He’s always turning the ball over and his only good PG plays are alley-oops…which he tries too often…which leads to more turnovers.
He looks like a guy off the And1 tour who cares more about the highlights than actually running the team.
I hope we draft a nice PG prospect with our first rounder next season.
Morrison
Has 6 of the Lakers points. Gordon is forcing him to the baseline, where there’s supposed to be help. but no help has been there.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
2 more for Morrison
Great defense on that one… better shot.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
McAlarney
In for Taylor. 2:16 in the quarter.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Griffin really wants the ball
Every trip he’s calling for it.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Make your FTs now
that’s better.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
You watched last night when he was interviewed? That was funny.
Where would the Clippers be without Sean Rooks?
DeAndre
Drop step, jump hook, bucket. I saw him make that move in practice the other day. Practice makes perfect, right.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Oh my...
DJ with the big time flush….
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
the game score...
26-13. But that doesn’t matter. This Lakers team is terrible. the real score is 1-0 zero. Jordan has one alley-oop dunk, BG has none. Gordon has 2 dunks in the first quarter.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Good game everyone looking good except for Taylor
he is looking really really really sloppy way to many TOs
In Gordon we trust
Pinkney in
BG getting a rest
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
No room on that roster...
Other than seeing if Morrison can still play, there’s nothing for them to do here.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Wafer's Tweet
“thanks for the support — I wanted to come back but the Rockets don’t want me. I will come back strong somewhere. maybe the clipers.”
Obviously, doesn’t look too conclusive.
whats with everyone saying they are going to the clippers
what is this like a threat if you don’t sign me i’m going to the clippers lol
In Gordon we trust
Kemp in for EJ
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
It's not the first time that comparison has been made
I’ll tell you right now… if it’s the Ben Gordon from the playoffs last year, I’ll take it.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
OK... that surprised me
When DJ caught that ball on the wing, my immediate thought was, that’s a bad spot for him… he’s too far from the basket. And then he made the move to the basket and scored. He’s looking GOOD.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Griffin coming over
Had to have a positive effect on him. He’s got to be accountable now, and early signs are that he’s showing up.
Second unit...
With DJ… who didn’t start this one, so I guess it’s the full second unit. should be a big drop off.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Does anyone not have a crappy stream? :(
Pretty please?
Stuck in limbo.
The only one I have http://www.atdhe.net/7457/watch-vegas-summer-league-la-lakers-vs-la-clippers
McAlarney
Banked a knee there. Looks like a stinger. We’ll see.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Powell is working on McAlarney's knee
icing it now. This may invoke Zhiv’s PG Gordon plan.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Was what Dunleavy?
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Monds
From Oklahoma St. has 6 points for the Lakers. He and Morrision have 14 of their 21.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
There's a big difference when...
Mike Taylor is on the floor and token white point guard is on the floor.
Should we think about resigning Dan Dickau?
Xmas
With the take to the hole. Nice. That I did not know he could do.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Should the Clippers?
Sign Dionte Christmas and David Noel? That would fit with the Davis3 marketing plan last year – gimmicks over hoops.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
BG..
trying to do too much. BUT having said that…. it turns out he can do a LOT. Just created for Xmas.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
listed at 6'5"
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
it's true...
no foul limit for players may have something to do with it.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
They called a walk
But that was an NBA move by BG. Came back with the fallaway off the glass.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Rick Kamla said the Clips signed Xmas
True? Non Guaranteed deal?
Does he play SF or SG? Both?
hmmm...
There’s certainly been no announcement to that effect.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
DJ
Another oop. the score is DJ 2 dunks, EJ 2 dunks, BG 1 dunk.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Don't sleep on NCM
He’s looking good for what they want him to do. And he makes a jumper right on cue.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah was going to make a comment about how he's looked thus far.
Grabbing boards and making jumpers.
by dulciusEXasperis on Jul 13, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
EJ
With the Cat Mobley style strip on Morrison…. and kevin arnovitz and steve perrin nod approvingly.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
It's a mess
ripped in two places. They need to get him a new one.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow... just wow
Griffin with back to back great plays.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Griffin and DJ should work on free throws together
by shoothoop on Jul 13, 2009 6:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
FTs
Both Griffin and Jordan need to work.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
yeah...
refs rarely reward guys who look out of control. but that was a foul.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Should somebody tell Mike Taylor....
that there’s a 24 second shot clock in the NBA and not 12?
I would say eratic
some times they call at every touch then they let someone get slapped like Gordon or thrown like Taylor
In Gordon we trust
why do ask?
Chucky Brown is a former NBA player, I think he still holds the record for most NBA teams.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
any doubt in your mind he wouldn't be? ;)
by dulciusEXasperis on Jul 13, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Not what he's here to do...
After watching the first half, it’s clear MDsr wants him to be able to defend threes, and that’s at least part of why he’s here. He doesn’t have to prove he can shoot. We know he can shoot. But he is attacking the basket pretty relentlessly also.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN has picked up
The Allen Iverson rumour. Title should include “Source near Iverson…”
please make that end
unless he is willing to play backup 1 or 2 then he is use less
In Gordon we trust
Still a bad idea
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
LA Times reported it...
Of course ESPN is going to pick it up.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
if it is Baron
if it hi Baron, then that would truly be amazing. he was just in China yesterday snappin’ photos 367 tweeter.
by Takebb909 on Jul 13, 2009 6:31 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Halftime
Griffin and DJ combined 10 for 10 from the field…. 3 for 10 from the line.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
He'll get better. One of the easier things to correct no?
They look good just bounce out lol.
by dulciusEXasperis on Jul 13, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
He just has to get better...
Or absolutely they will
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
still no major concerns
i state that headline simply from the fact of his professionalism and second to none work ethic and desire to be his best. he will work on that and improve for that reason alone. guys in the nba that dont have good free throws, that are scorers on any level of nba standards have no business not being able to make at least 70% and are just lazy.
by Takebb909 on Jul 13, 2009 6:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
233 comments
in the first half… or a summer league game… How is the thread performing for people? Is it slowing down? Tell me if you want a new one.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Seems okay
'Cause how you play, is how you'll be remembered. PLAY LOUD!
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jul 13, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
wonder if DJ is going to come out with a diffirent jersey
the one he was wearing got shredded.
In Gordon we trust
And it's halftime
Very nice work.
I missed the first couple of (dominant) minutes by BG, and didn’t get to see the 3. Have to like the way he hasn’t missed a shot yet as a pro. Clips would be up by more if he was perfect from the line, and DJordan could hit a free throw with that impressively ripped jersey. Griffin is getting a nice run, doesn’t seem especially challenged, bringing his own energy to the game.
Gordon is Gordon. Just keeps making his plays, tough defense: we’re used to seeing the full package. Kind of interesting how Gordon and Griffin (start with g, end with n) are both such complete players. If Baron is indeed present and watching, it should be pretty obvious how a strong, sharp passing PG could create all sorts of opportunities on the floor. Mike Taylor is not that guy. He has a good role to play, but it isn’t as a starting PG trying to get other players going.
My man DJordan looks pretty good, no? A couple of nice moves, the usual dunks, a nice complement to Griffin. It looks as if the interior passing and vision of Griffin will create plays for Kaman, Camby, or Jordan—and unless I’m wrong, Jordan is the strongest finisher of that group. Just saying.
So that first half was all we could have asked for. Did any of us see 250+ comments in the first half of the first summer league game coming back in April?
Go Clippers!
Holy hell Blake...
His work ethic is scaring me a little bit
I didn't hear it..
so I can’t help on that one.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Talking on D
Griffin is talking on D, and it makes everyone else talks because of it. He’s just a great guy to have on a team.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Pick and roll
MT and BG…. that’s what we like.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Overall Feeling
Griffin is confident. believes he should be out there. believes that he should be dominating. (which he is) creeping closer and closer to 20-10. I love all the talkk about a glue guy for the clippers this year and all the while it never came up that Griffin could be our man for that too. I just hope MT slows down and lets the game come to him. He is forcing everything and also got lost on a couple pick and rolls. Griffin is also showing very strong on the pick and roll. Im so stoked on the clips. The wait is worth it
D-Miles dont call it a come back
by Darius Miles Up In Smoke on Jul 13, 2009 6:55 PM PDT reply actions
BG and DJ out of the game
I’d like to see Banks do something.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
That was a stong take...
He created the contact, finished smooth as glass with the left. Baynes didn’t even phase him.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Thoughts feelings on
Adam Morrison???
D-Miles dont call it a come back
by Darius Miles Up In Smoke on Jul 13, 2009 6:57 PM PDT reply actions
Best player on his team which isn't saying much.
He’s going to get points when he’s allowed starters minutes, taking 16 shots, and playing against rookies and D-leaguers.
by dulciusEXasperis on Jul 13, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
He can play offense...
He’s looked quite good on that end…. I’m actually supposed to be watching him for Silver Screen and Roll.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Announcers
are a little frustrating.
They’re missing a great opportunity to discuss the Morrison-Gordon matchup.
McAlarney back
Nice pass to Pinkney.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Announcers
hate the announcers. “Hey clips nation get your fill now in…july! hahaha” wheres the respect???
D-Miles dont call it a come back
by Darius Miles Up In Smoke on Jul 13, 2009 6:59 PM PDT reply actions
Clippers up 20
Not sure how much more we’ll see of BG
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
no...
Friday
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
DJ back to start the third
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
fourth... not third
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
McAlarney...
can do that
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Back to back threes
from the Clipper scrubs
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
McAlarney
With a nice pass… and DJ with the finish. He can finish.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Blake
at the scorer’s table. He’s coming back.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
I had a feeling it would be like this
When BG, EJ are in the game, the Clippers are very, very good. When the other guys are out there, not so much.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
NCM
Clippers leading rebonder. Anyone see that coming?
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Griffin
Thinks he’s going to make every shot…. he certainly wants to. He missed a tough step back and let out a scream.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Steve
what does griffins turn around fade on the baseline look live?? the one he just missed
D-Miles dont call it a come back
by Darius Miles Up In Smoke on Jul 13, 2009 7:13 PM PDT reply actions
He's good at creating the space
so he can get the shot anytime he wants it…. and he’s made a couple of them. He shoots it coming down a little… his old bad shooting habits return on that move. But he’s such a natural athlete, he just can ‘athlete’ the ball into the hole.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, how about that?
He draws a charge on one possession, and then goes Magic Johnson, rebound one man fast break on the next. Criminy Dutch.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jul 13, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha wow BG that was something else!
by dulciusEXasperis on Jul 13, 2009 7:18 PM PDT reply actions
THAT WAS SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL
'Cause how you play, is how you'll be remembered. PLAY LOUD!
Taylor
Got himself pulled for the final minutes. Anyone see what he did? He was pleading his case to Tony Brown and Kim Hughes on the bench.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Your new starting PG....Blake Griffin
Guy is taking it up the court now lol.
by dulciusEXasperis on Jul 13, 2009 7:21 PM PDT reply actions
Talk amongst yourselves
I’m gearing up for post game… be out for a bit
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Good game
BG had an amazing game. DJ showed some good post moves, EJ was EJ. The only sour note was that Taylor didn’t look the least bit impressive. But thinks are starting to look up this season lets just hope the Ai rumors go away.
In Gordon we trust
yeah Taylor was disappointing.
Expected better from him after having a season under his belt. Doesn’t seem to have learned anything……shame.
by dulciusEXasperis on Jul 13, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
The PGs usually are too excited for their first game
Like B. Jennings.
But those guys are rookies
my analysis
Blake was phenomenal, he’s a strong rebounder on both ends, has tremendous ball handling for his size and he can bank in tough shots. His only apparent flaws are poor free throw shooting and jes not a shtblocker. He’s no super long so I think hell never become a Zo but he should get better at the line.
DJ had developed a nice baby hook but he still was no range on his jumpshot. Working on a countermove is next. He turned the ball over a few times in the post but overall had a strong game.
Taylor had a terrible game. He got stripped a couple of times and didn’t seem to be running any plays. He’ll never be a pg in the nba but can serve as a instant offense kind of guy like nate robinson, earl boykins or Eddie House.
EJ was his usual self. Showed better ballhandling than last year and was able to finish plays even after contact.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Jul 13, 2009 8:34 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
i noticed taylor having issues
but the lakers point shakur was playing him exceptional on D
excellent defense or not he was out of control, at least for the first half
He uses his speed to get away from his defenders but he runs into help defense and begins to panic….thinking about it he never changes speeds, which actually would be an excellent trait for him. He just runs around in circles which consequently draws away others defenders and opens the lane for one of the guys but more often than not, he runs into trouble.
by dulciusEXasperis on Jul 13, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I made a mistake
I figured that BG was done and wasn’t going to play in the 4th. But it’s summer league, right, and his pro debut, and he still played less than 30 minutes to get his 27/12.
Wow.
I’m interested in the comparison between Kevin Love and Blake Griffin. I watched Love very carefully during his single season at UCLA. Love was one of the most highly skilled players ever, and he has bulk and strength, and he quickly established the fact that he could be a real NBA rebounder. He doesn’t have great length, and he’s a bit undersized, and I don’t know that his hands are as big as BG’s. Love has a solid work ethic but as the son of a pro he was always so deep inside the game and far ahead of everyone else that he was a bit of a Big Baby type. So now, still very young, he is still figuring out his work ethic and game as a pro.
The thing is, KLove is not an incredible athlete. He will make himself into an outstanding player and he will always be crafty, but he’s just not as fast and explosive as a lot of other NBA players. What John Wooden valued above all else in a player was quickness, and Kevin Love is not quick.
In my analysis, Blake Griffin is about a 7 or 8 on KLove’s skill level scale, but where KLove is a 6 as an NBA athlete, BG is at least a 9.
He was very exciting to watch in this game, and I guess I missed about 10 minutes out of his 30.
Good day in Clipperdom. More to be said. The fact that our dynamic duo, Steve and Kevin, were at courtside for this game, is perhaps equally epic. One of the greatest things about being a Clipper fan, amidst all of the pain and suffering, is that we are a close-knit community of underdogs, viewing the NBA from a unique and hard-earned perspective, brothers in the long march, led by the lean quixotic optimist Ralph Lawler.
Ralph had a good day today.
Interesting comparison
God knows I heart KLove – but just what skills exactly are you referencing here? He’s slow, not a great defender, doesn’t have a quick release and is undersized. His passing skills are vastly overrated IMO. He almost never passed out of the double team at least in college. He does, however, have heart and strength, and is adept at positioning himself for rebounds. Are those “skills”?
BG seems to be far more skilled. He’s much quicker, a better rebounder, taller, has a better handle and has better reach. He’s got at least as much heart as KLove. Ultimately I expect him to be a much better shooter as well. Frankly, I don’t think they are in the same league, and it pains me to say that.
KLove skills
I remember the first time I saw KLove play on TV—it was his team (Lake Oswego?) against Mater Dei, with Don Maclean doing the commentary. It took him a play or two to get going, but then he went on a run of at least ten plays where he did something different every time, showing an extraordinary basketball skill level for a high school player. Maclean doesn’t like to get excited, and his deadpan was classic, as he said on the 8th or 9th play, “sure, you’ve showed us post moves, the bank shot, the midrange jumper and the three, so I guess it’s time to break out the running left hand hook shot off the glass.”
That was high school of course, where his size and athleticism were on the plus side, and for a big man he had every shot and move. He got a slow start in his first couple of games at UCLA I thought, and I wasn’t sure he was going to be so great. I was a Mata-Real afficionado, as you can imagine, and I thought from the beginning that KLove should be playing his (ultimate NBA) natural position of PF rather than center. His heart and strength, which you mention, won out. His defense improved. At PF and stepping outside the relative weakness of his shot would have been more evident, just something that a freshman needed to work on—imagine if he was going into his junior year at UCLA right now, working on it. At any rate, his skills made up for the way that he was only an average athlete at the college level.
I was probably wrong when I said that Love is a 6 as an NBA athlete. He’s probably more of a 4, perhaps at best. The thing you first mention (slow, defense, release, undersized) are more in the athleticism category than skills. I agree about his interior passing—Griffin’s interior passing was awesome yesterday, btw—, which is overrated. The outlet is a bit of a parlor trick, but a good one to have, and I wonder what he did with it on the TWolves. It was probably more effective with Westbrook and Collison playing against college kids. But the outlet pass (the Walton signature) is an example and indicator of a highly skilled, heady player, like the hook shot (the Jabbar signature), and the bank (the Wooden signature). Rebounding position, especially in a less athletic player, is another skill.
My point was that BG is almost as highly skilled as Love, and how that seemed amazing in such an extraordinary athlete. Some of the things you mention are athleticism: quicker, taller, reach, and even BG’s rebounding edge could be put on his athleticism. But BG’s skills are right up there, and you’re right about having a better handle, and also that he may end up as a better shooter—better athletes can be better shooters, right, but it’s still a skill.
At any rate, it’s a fascinating comparison, especially given BG coming back for his sophomore year. He’s a beast. And yes, BG seems to have at least as much heart, and a better motor. I took a swipe at explaining how Love was “inside the game” with his dad a former pro, which was part of his edge—something not to be minimized when you see Kobe and now Stephen Curry. That’s not heart, it’s just NBA genetics and nurturing.
As far as the pain of saying that they’re not in the same league—an astute conclusion, well said—I find my feelings about Love and Westbrook to be rather bittersweet. They were great Bruins, but only briefly, and somehow that makes it okay to focus on their shortcomings, which I find myself doing more than I would like. Part of the tradeoff/curse of being a UCLA/Clipper fan I guess. The Gordon-Westbrook comparison is very rich obviously, and I really want Gordon to be a better player, and I’d be happy to see him dominate RW. But I still want Westbrook to be great and love watching him play. And now I enjoy seeing KLove’s success, but I would love to see BG be firmly in the other league you mention, become an elite pro, while Love is merely a solid one.
by citizen zhiv on Jul 14, 2009 5:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Great comments, Zhiv
The point about the outlet being a “parlor trick” is right on. It’s an interesting trick, and KL’s very strong, but it can’t be your primary offensive weapon if you’re going to be a star in the league. Walton for example was amazing with our without the outlet pass.
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