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Big game tonight: DJordan vs. Thabeet

Linkifying Zhiv - An excellent post from Citizen Zhiv below, who really needs to get over his fear of linking.  You're a bright guy - you can do it.  At any rate, I'm promoting it to the front page, and adding the links that he zhived (is that one 'v' or two?) on his own.

Do I have this right?  I "prolly" (a word getting some usage here these days, so why not say hey) should be checking before posting, but I've been pretty deep into the Summer League experience thus far and I'm pretty sure that was the set-up.

SP's analysis and discussion of Hasheem Thabeet leading up to the draft I believe (not sure where the link might be, and I zhiv linking pretty intensely), put DeAndre Jordan into a whole new light, and his stock was on a slow steady rise though the season anyway.  DJ has been great in summer league, a big part of the good news.  Have to say that Griffin is helping and making him look good, but KA had a nice, quick analysis of DJ's effort as a top summer performer, and no less than David Thorpe, who is probably the Clips newest, bestest buddy for a number of reasons, starting with KA's yeoman work in getting him to notice Eric Gordon last year, but primarily because he's going to spend a lot of time analyzing Blake Griffin this year, tweeted the other day that DJ seems to be easily the most improved player, freshman to sophomore, that he has seen in the summer leagues.

DJ was completely ignored during the draft and trade discussions.  It was making me a little nuts.  We citizens, of course, remember that there was a lot of "it's the Clippers" nonsense, "how will they screw this one up," after they got the number one pick, along with a fair amount of discussion about the absolutely untradeable Zach Randolph and the crowded Clipper frontcourt, including some ridiculous speculation that the Clips didn't even need to draft Blake Griffin--why?  because it's the Clippers!  And even in the reasonable and supposed expert analysis at the time, the "crowded Clipper frontcourt" consisted of Zbo, Kaman, and Camby.  After SP drew the comparisons between DJ and Thabeet, my antennae were searching everywhere for any sort of mention of DJordan, as he's potentially a critical part of the future of the Clips, as can be plainly seen when he plays alongside BG.  I held out hopes, being the optimistical Zhiv, that some one might actually say that the Clips already had their own version of Thabeet, who had plummeted down to them in the draft the year before, but it was pretty clear that was never going to happen.  And his name was never mentioned more than twice through the entire process, and it didn't even come up again, I don't think, after the "miracle" of the relatively predictable Zbo trade--it was uniformly Griffin-Kaman-Camby, with no DJ notes. 

My surmise was that DJ would finally start to show up on the radar in summer league, and that has been true, to a point beyond even the zhiviest expectations.  The first game was all about the debut of Blake Griffin, and rightly so, and that part was deeply satisfying, and DJ didn't exactly get off to a great start by missing the bus, but by the middle of the second quarter the announcers (talking to David Stern), including David Aldridge, along with others no doubt, were in the middle of remembering who DJordan was and that he might play a role on the Clippers.  It could be argued that the second game, against NOH, belonged to DJ more than BG, as DJ's productivity was a bit gaudier, but it needs to be mentioned again that BG's game is so potent and well-rounded that he's a significant factor in helping DJ's cause, and it helps having Eric Gordon out there too.

SP pointed out, going into the NOH game, that there was no big man test for DJ, and that helped quite a bit as well.  He's playing with great confidence now, but it should be added that hitting his free throws, including two important ones down the stretch, was a big step forward for DJ from game one.   And that brings us to tonight.

Should be fun.

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"Prolly" should be banished from the zhivian lexicon...

For others it might be okay but for CZ It’s a bad fit: Chivas in a jelly jar. No, actually that’s okay. It’s a mud stain on your Testarossa. Actually that’s okay too. It’s your drop-dead dream-date with bad breath. There.

by John Raffo on Jul 16, 2009 1:21 PM PDT reply actions  

mostly because he bashed the clips

don’t have the link but it went something like I am happy the clippers won the lottery because I don’t want to play for them. That and he also smells of over rated player.

In Gordon we trust

by bestclipfan on Jul 16, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did not know that

If that’s true, yup that makes me dislike him. Plus, what arrogance. There was no chance the Clippers were going to take Thabeet (IMO) especially not at 2.

by Michael White on Jul 16, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow

that is a legit diss, that’s bulletin board material for sure. But let’s not waste in during the pre-season and save it for when the Grizz and Clips meet in the Conference Finals in 3 years (not unfathomable)

by bdubb on Jul 16, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Grizzlies and Clippers in the conf finals?

Sterling and Heisler owned teams? Really? REALLY?

I don’t see it happening, I’m hoping DTS kicks the bucket during the next decade and a Blake led team wins us a championship but for now I’m okay with just making the playoffs.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Jul 16, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Prolly, by the numbers...

18 total utilizations in the comments of Clips Nation. 7 of those by yours truly, ‘prolly’ and ‘splain’ being in my opinion among the more charming bastardizations of words.

The uptick you’ve detected recently is due entirely to citizen clipochistic – a relatively new citizen who has used prolly 7 times in comments during the month of July. No one else has used it more than once, with the exception of Zhiv who has done so somewhat bemusedly twice this week.

As a rule, I am fine using it in comments – but would not use it on a story post (and in fact, I never have). You have to draw the line somewhere. We strive for the high-falutin’ here at Clips nation.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jul 16, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

But... But... But...

You wouldn’t use it in a story post but then you bump Zhiv’s post up to the front page?! You are goading Zhiv, methinks. And then you go stats?! No, no, it’s too much. I cannot penetrate the depths of this conspiracy.
   
By the way, I rather like ‘splain and I’ve nothing at all against c. clipochistic, his posts are pretty good. It’s just the word I disdain….

by John Raffo on Jul 16, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

interesting distinction...

splain is ok, but prolly is not? I fail to see a major difference. My recommendation to all would be to use actual english words in front page posts and fanposts. Me likey the english.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jul 16, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let me 'splain it to you...

“’Splain”, whether people realize it or not, harkens back to Ricky Ricardo’s bumptious and comical way with English dating back to the old mid-century “I Love Lucy”, sitcom. Ricky’s put-upon plea, “Lucy, you have some ‘splainin’ to do!” was pretty funny then, pretty funny now… especially when removed from that particular context.
“Prolly” is, as you said, a pure bastardization of the word “probably”, often spoken by the lazy or semi-literate, a few of whom live in and around my house. They are nice people. They are okay. Lest you think I am a pompous tool (though I might be) there is vernacular spoken by these estimable creatures of which I am very fond: “Ah-ga-go-now”, is my current favorite (and probably meant to be spoken, not written)… but I also admit to freely availing myself of non-words like, “IMO”, “BTW”, and my most-often-used favorite, “kinda”. These utterances qualify to exist in the swamigusto lexicon for the simple reason that they are convenient or make me laugh.
“Prolly”, IMO, just kinda sucks.

by John Raffo on Jul 16, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well 'Splained

Totally agree. “’Splain” definitely comes across as an intentional modification for comic effect, while “prolly” translates into a half-hearted failure to enunciate. While I’m sure that I’m regularly guilty of the mumbles, in my worldview, twisted and hypocritical as it may be, mumbled speech is much more acceptable than mumbled writing.

by ClipCat on Jul 17, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Clipper or not, I’m for him…hopefully, he follows in the footsteps of Dikembe Mutombo and Manute Bol as it relates to giving back to his home country.

We talk about NBA contracts all day where $5M/year is relatively “not much” – how great would it be if these athletes were more like Mutombo with their money!

Anyways, I suspect NBA Cares will have a field day with Thabeet…

by banandy on Jul 16, 2009 3:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Thabeet is the 2nd coming of Olowakandi……… both very limited and will be out fo the league before they know it!

by Natedog1977 on Jul 16, 2009 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Relatively predictable

Zbo trade. Are you sure. Mmmm. Your hindsight is a wonderful thing there zhiv !
I also remember a few posts talking about throwing dj into a trade and a number of people stating he’ll be our future centre

Bingo! Oh me oh my!

by ClippersUK on Jul 16, 2009 3:47 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

'High-falutin''

Going into my Steven Wright mode, I ask, "Is there such a thing a ‘low-falutin’? And what does the apostrophe at the end mean? What letter was there to start with? Okay, then, what is ‘faluting’? And is it legal in all 50 states?’

by pipedreams on Jul 16, 2009 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Just wrote a really clever, fascinating comment

Was going along fine, got cocky and tried to link, messed up and lost it.

Damaged my confidence.

by citizen zhiv on Jul 16, 2009 5:31 PM PDT reply actions  

is EJ injured again? i noticed he wasn’t in the starting lineup against memphis.

by ej fan on Jul 17, 2009 12:09 AM PDT reply actions  

no he is just getting the night off

there was some very slight swelling on his leg and there was no need to push him. I think we would have won if EJ had been playing.

In Gordon we trust

by bestclipfan on Jul 17, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

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