what do you guys think of rasual butler or antonio daniels?

by hans007 on Jul 21, 2009 9:46 PM PDT Comment 12 comments

I was thinking about the trade exception and how the clippers might use it. I figure the smartest thing to do would be to target teams over the luxury tax who are financially not so sound, and take a player that is a 2009-2010 expiring contract off their hands.

On hoopshype.com this really leaves only a few teams that aren't in "we dont care about the luxury tax we'll do it to win" , and have players under the 7 million exemption. One of these is the hornets who are more or less ready to give tyson chandler away. That said they have 2 players on their team that if given to the clippers marcus camby style would save them double because they are in the tax, and would be useful to the clippers. I wonder if dunleavy is already thinking about this sort of things since he did it last year with camby.

Anyhow the hornets have Rasual butler and antonio daniels. I am not sure how much daniels has left in him, but he probably would be useful backup both guard spots. On top of that they have butler who is 6'7" and may or may not be small forward material. He at least shoots 3s better than al thornton and it looks like he can also play shooting guard. he makes nearly 4 million which would save the hornets 8 million. daniels would save them even more, and he's also be useful as a backup SG / pg and he definitely plays defense (he's like 34 though but i dont think he's "done").

Now I'm thinking the hornets would throw in a pick and say 3 million to have daniels taken off their hands just to not pay the luxury tax (even if they pay 3 million , they still save 9 million). Rasual butler is their starting SG so I am not sure how possible that is, then again they were ready to give away tyson chandler. I think rasual + hilton armstrong also fits for the exception (we'd have to waive some people) and thus gets new orleans just over the luxury tax threshold, plus maybe is enough to get butler...

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This is the right way to approach it...

You’re absolutely on the right track. Cash strapped teams at or near the luxury tax are the perfect bidders for the exception. Daniels would have made all the sense in the world before the Telfair trade. Less now. Butler is a pretty good fit now.

The simple fact is that there may be (a) a clearer picture of needs and (b) other desperate teams out there closer to the trading deadline. So I think a trade like this is a distinct possibility – but I think it will happen later rather than sooner.

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by Steve Perrin on Jul 21, 2009 10:38 PM PDT reply actions

i really like this idea

Butler i think, would be the back up SG/SF (mainly SG) that we’ve been looking for and could complete our roster. the only deal i would take over this is would be for a solid starting SF but i would still be absolutely satisfied with this deal.

by AtotheZ on Jul 21, 2009 11:37 PM PDT reply actions

i also realized the reason butler was starting was morris peterson was injured. assuming he’s not injured now, the hornets could probably get away with getting rid of butler and still have a worthwhile shooting guard.

by hans007 on Jul 21, 2009 11:48 PM PDT reply actions

Craig Smith for Rasual Butler

Both have expiring contracts this season and both teams get a little bit of what they need.

by banandy on Jul 23, 2009 3:36 PM PDT reply actions

Why Craig Smith.

Why not Sebastian Telfair and sign Sessions? I may be against the signing of Sessions, but only because I feel as if there is an overfill at the 1.

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by JackduhSun on Jul 23, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Because NO doesn't need a guard...

They drafted Collison from UCLA to back up CP3. They need a big that can fill in at both the 4 and 5.

Also, Butler is expendable behind Mo Pete and draft pick Marcus Thornton.

by banandy on Jul 23, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Actually, I believe Ricky Davis + Craig Smith for Rasual Butler works

by banandy on Jul 23, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions

No it doesn't

if i remember correctly; any player that we recently acquired in a trade can’t be packaged in a deal. They need to be trade single handedly.

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by JackduhSun on Jul 23, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah...

Would have to wait until 9/20 for trade packages

by banandy on Jul 23, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions

well the entire point of my post was that if you use the exception the hornets save money from the luxury tax.

if we trade them actual players that they have to pay that really doesnt help them. Though I can still see craigsmith for rasual butler being maybe apossibility if they need a backup for david west.

but then agian, they are trying to save money and if they did that would be thinner at SG. I think basically they wouldnt do it unless say they gave up ont he season already so Steve Perrin is probably right that it might not even happen until around february.

by hans007 on Jul 23, 2009 6:35 PM PDT reply actions