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Proposal: A Mutiny on the Clipper Ship

 

Arrgh, me hardies! I be proposin’ a mutiny on the Clipper Ship!

With the dread dog days nearin’, ‘tis time, I say, to relieve Captain Steve o’ his duties, and take this vessel into waters uncharted!

“This is but a pipedream!” ye says, and aye, ye might be right! But hear me out, ‘fore ye be castin’ me carcass o’er the rail!

Let us go on an exploring expedition, seeking not gold and jools, but the treasure of understandin’.

Let us explore, together mates, the nature of loyalty and duty in professional sports.

Many who fly the purple and gold pennants are upset when they see the red, white and blue of our crew, claiming to represent the same city. Sure, they both claim the name ‘Los Angeles,’ but does that mean citizens of LA are bound to give their love and support to the crews? And what do the crews owe to Los Angeles, and its citizens, and their fans? And if, say, the Clippers sailed to Anaheim, but kept the name, “Los Angeles” painted on the stern, should it affect anybody’s love, or hate, for our tricolor?

Owes the ship’s master the fans a winning team now, or in the future? Or be entertainment more important? How might an owner define a prosperous voyage – by record, by championship, by revenues, by profits, by return-on-investment,  by increased value of assets? And, should ye believe he should look to benefit anybody but himself, why hold ye so? And be that very perspective one of the reasons ye’ll ne'er be in the position to own a professional sports franchise?

What does the owner owe to players? They are paid handsomely, have lavish amenities, and are often idolized by fans. Are they owed a competitive team? A happy team? A famous team? Do they owe their utmost effort to make that happen? If that includes sacrificing some money to enhance their crew, should they do that? Or are they to be neither more, nor less, profit-oriented than the owner?

What do players owe to fans? Their utmost effort? Candor in interviews? Sacrifice for the team good? Charity works that aren’t primarily photo-ops? Being part of the community, year-round? Autographs at any time?

And fans, mates, what do you owe to the owner, the players, the team (they being separate, or so I'm thinkin'). Loyalty, no matter what? And what do they owe you? Should your season tickets appreciate every year? Should your memorabilia increase in value, too? Should they all work together to make wearing the Clipper tricolor a reason for (vicarious) pride, as opposed to mockery, or grudging respect for being stalwart?

Other questions might arise as we sail these shoals and reefs. Should we prosper in this expedition, Captain Steve can take all the reflectin’ and ruminatin’ and make it the core of his Thesis, maybe even serialize it to SI.

So, there ye be, maties. Are ye with me, or agin’ me?

Should you elect to sign on, ye’ll not be obliged to carry on with seaman’s talk.

I believe Ensign Spellcheck just abandoned ship.


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what's the question?

i just want to be sure…

Clippers Basketball.... It's Masochistic!

by Clipochistic on Jul 25, 2009 10:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Same here

Where would the Clippers be without Sean Rooks?

by Regulan on Jul 25, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Explanation

Hokay — what I was looking for was for everybody to ask and answer questions about loyalty in professional sports, using Our Los Angeles Clippers as a springboard.
FOR EXAMPLE — Sterling’s often called the worst owner in sports — yet he turns a profit year after year. Are the two incongruent? If a team’s unprofitable, tthe owner sells, or the team goes downhill, even if it hangs banners. If a team’s weak, but makes money, its fans dwindle, and the city whose name it claims wants to disown it.
In Europe I understand that many teams are sponsored by manufacturers, and carry their names, not city names. Does having the Clippers hail from LA affect your fondness or distaste for them?
Brooklyn thought they owned the Dodgers, and when O’Malley moved them he was cursed heartily. Why was he hated? Were the fans not clear on who owned the club, and what his rights were?
On and on this goes, with what I regard as peculiar notions of resonsibility. Does Cupertino think it owns Apple? If Apple changed its name to Apple of Cupertino, would everybody feel compelled to buy a Mac?
There’s an offbeat mixing of capitalism, socialism, and communitarianism in pro sports, and I find it intriguing.
\If you don’t , well it won’t be the first time I was part of the outlier group.
But, since there likely won’t be much happening ’til September in Clipperworld, I thought this would be a great way to keep the board active, survey attitudes, and maybe keep our grey cells from liquefying in the August heat.

by pipedreams on Jul 25, 2009 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

well now that you mention it

i can’t stop thinking about my ‘clipper for life manifesto’.

which would be a cautionary tale of ‘chosing’ which team you are going to root for, presented to a fan who is thinking about rooting for the clips.

i think the thesis is something like this.

one should support a team which is supported by ownership.

there is evidence the clippers franchise operates for profit and no for the ideal of winning.

therefore, chose a team besides the clippers to root for.

too late for me, good luck with your decision.. hehehehe!

Clippers Basketball.... It's Masochistic!

by Clipochistic on Jul 25, 2009 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

i should add...

that the past several years have made it harder to argue that the team is only for profit.

the mobley and brand deals were expensive and we were going over the cap last year until elton broke our hearts. if sterling would have matched the odom deal to miami, i would have the full belief.

the 15 years previous to that though, the clippers were absolutely a for profit franchise. the level of stiff they brought in to play out the seasons were unmatched by any franchise (we dominated mediocrity).

so i guess these are the good days?

Clippers Basketball.... It's Masochistic!

by Clipochistic on Jul 25, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think since the clips have moved to staples you can’t really say DTS has been cheap.

I think he’s been quoted as saying that as long as the clippers are not losing money as a business unit that he is fine spending money (i am paraphrasing).

Matching odom at the time honestly would have been a risky move, and it can be argued at the time it was way too much to pay for him. I mean no one brings up that he actually offered 5/50 to olowokandi and candy man turned it down. Or maybe he didnt offer it. Either way it was a good move right?

I mean as many people have pointed out, how many free agents have the clippers lost that you really regret not signing. Qrich? Mo taylor? candy man? andre miller? I’d have to say the only one that turned out well in hindsight is odom. And I’d say it was a defensible move.

So yeah really I can’t say he’s being cheap. He’s definitely not the type of owner who will just throw money at anything liek say cuban or paul allen, but I cannot really say he’s a michael heisley at this point. And he isn’t doing just plain dumb signings like chris cohen of the warriors (maggs and captain jack extensions were moronic). And he’s no robert sarver selling his draft picks every year (which the lakers are also guilty of doing, as this years 1st round pick turned into toney douglas who had a great summer league…)

by hans007 on Jul 26, 2009 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

i still want bobby simmons back (the un-injured version)

hehe, but have to agree that the trend has been towards spending more by sterling.

but even with those moves all being made, they are in the mid tier for spending money (at best).

if one is to become a fan of a team which is supported by ownership, then perhaps the mid tier is not where you want to start.

advice to fan looking for a team:
find the teams that spend luxury money and pick one out of a hat. or you can pick the most ‘underdogged’ (or proximity to current location) of those teams.

then again, maybe liking the team colors is the most important part…. moohua!

Clippers Basketball.... It's Masochistic!

by Clipochistic on Jul 26, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

is it?

darn it missed it again

In Gordon we trust

by bestclipfan on Jul 25, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don't need a day to talk like a pirate,

just watch spongebob and immitate mr. crabs. (=

“arghh, me krabby patties!”

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Jul 26, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's try a different tack

Okay — last season Baron Davis signed to come here, enticed by Elton Brand. Then Brand left.
Did Baron owe Sterling his best effort, or, because what he got wasn’t what he thought he was getting, was it okay to give what he felt like, and if things worked out, then give more? And, if he didn’t owe it to Sterling, did he owe it to the Clippers? The fans? The City of Los Angeles? His own character development?
And, if you feel he owed more than he gave, what’s to be done? Should his teammates take him aside and explain that he let them down last year? Do fans boo him?
Let’s go to the other locker room. If Kobe took less money the Lakers could sign Lamar Odom. Or, is Dr. Buss expected to pay twice for Lamar? Or, is Lamar expected to take less than he might elsewhere, to make another championship happen?
I’d forgotten how hard brainstorming can be.

by pipedreams on Jul 26, 2009 11:27 AM PDT reply actions  

From what everyone inside the org is saying

Baron knows he did bad last year and he seems to be trying to fix it. I think he deserves a second chance if he improves let it go but if he doesn’t then boo him.

In Gordon we trust

by bestclipfan on Jul 26, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

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