How did we all become clipper fans
Around 2004 I watched my first clipper game I saw Chris Kaman and Elton Brand working hard on a bad team. From that point on I became a clipper fan, and I was hoping that I could be one for life, but the more and more I read up on the organization it becomes harder to stay on the bandwagon. Every year they are always stacked with good players, but instead of winning games, we lead the league in injuries, and as soon as players like Elton Brand get the opportunity for free agency, in a flash he's gone. I know I will stay a clipper fan, I love Ralph Lawler, but how did everyone on clips nation become fans?
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Started when I was a kid...
I was actually a Laker fan when I was a kid. Its pretty typical when there’s Horry, Shaq, Fox, Glen Rice, Kobe. Never really was a Kobe fan, but really liked Horry.
Eventually, when Lakers faced Phili, for some awkward reason, I didn’t want Lakers to win. I wanted Iverson to take them all the way. Eventually, I started to hate the Lakers as everyone else around me was a Laker fan. I started to watch Clippers game also as LO, Quentin Richardson etc etc practically made the game fun to watch.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
Yes ClipsNation, I said it...
At one point, I was a Laker fan. Stone me! But on my behalf, was like 9 or so and my family was a Laker fan. Its only right to follow your family as a kid…
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
ate the red (white and blue) pill
once you have clipper in your sack, you cant never go back
that’s pride f’ing with you. f pride. pride only hurts, it never helps.
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by Clipochistic on Jul 27, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
when i was a kid, i guess i followed both team. What basically swayed me to pick a side was when the lakers got shaq, and well i hated shaq because he seemed like such a dumbass. This was right around the eddie jones, van exel , ceballos era, so the lakers were just getting barely respectable after the james worthy getting old, sedale threat years.
It also helped that no one in my family could afford laker tickets, but I had a family friend who pooled season tickets and i actually went to a few clipper games back in the rodney rodgers , brent barry years.
Back then the laker fans were not very obnoxious and ininformed because there wasn’t much of a bandwagon since both teams were pretty terrible (i think in the bill fitch era, the clips actually had better records). If I were a kid again now, the laker fan bandwagoning alone would have me a clippers fan right off. I like to go against the grain like that.
always strayed away from the norm….so when all my friends were michael jordan fans, i was a huge dominique wilkins fan (FYI: he was robbed in the dunk contest against MJ, youtube it). i was young, so only liked the hawks because of niq. so when he was traded to the clippers for danny manning, i became maybe the only clipper fan in Pennsylvania. Niq got traded by the end of that same season, by then it was evident that he wasn’t the same player, so i refused to become a celtics fan(niqs new temporary home). once my father inform me of the type of team the clips were i was excited to claim the underdog and watch them grow into a respected team. its been tough at times, but still fun to be a clips fan.
I think my Dad started it
My Dad had season tickets for about 15 years. When I was in the third grade he started taking me, and I became obsessed with players like Pooh Richardson, Loy Vaught, Stanley Roberts, and Harold Ellis. At Sports Camp in the fourth grade I dressed up as Loy Vaught for “Dress up as your favorite sports player” day. I got made fun of incessantly for the rest of camp.
I played YMCA basketball in Los Angeles for most of my young life, and as many of you from Los Angeles probably know, the program is called the Jr. Lakers basketball program, with all the teams being called the Jr. Lakers. At the end of one of my seasons, my Dad tried to get a Laker player to come to the gym and talk to all of the teams and parents about basketball, and growing up playing sports. No Laker would come. Instead, my Dad was able (because of his good relationship with his ticket representative) to come into contact with one of the departments that send Clippers players out into the field to talk to youth, and I think it was Terry Dehere that ended up coming out to talk to a bunch of Jr. Laker kids.
In the eighth grade I got accepted to be a Clipper ballboy at the inaugural season at the Staples Center (which also happened to be Lamar Odom’s rookie season — still remember watching him with my jaw on the floor in his first game, dropping 30 I think on Toronto). Being a ballboy that season only solidified my undying loyalty to the team. My friends would love it too, because the Clippers gave me two free tickets to every game I worked in the section right behind one of the hoops on the floor. My buddies (who were mostly laker fans) would also love it when I talked the camera guys I befriended to get them on the big screen every night.
The Clippers have just always been my team I guess, and they’ve always been accessible to their fans, which makes loving them so easy. I’ve never wavered in my love for them, and though they’ve hit patches where they haven’t been the most exciting team to watch in the world, I’ll never stop repeating the mantra, “Just wait till next year, just wait till next year.”
Wow Marek;
how do you become a ball boy??? I’ve always wondered how those kids get their jobs…
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
I too used to be a Laker fan
when I was a kid the Lakers were in there swing with Shaq and Kobe and I rooted for them I am not sure why but I did. But when they traded Shaq I started to dislike the Lakers, then my Dad started getting prenium seats from his work to clippers games and seeing as I needed a team to root for I started watching the clips. I wasn’t a real huge fan though until 04-05 probably because I was still to young to really follow anything but since then I have followed the team and I will continue to follow them no matter how bad they stink.
In Gordon we trust
Another former Lakers fan as a kid
For me, I stopped watching basically when Magic retired the first time, then stopped watching basketball pretty much through the 90s. I started watching again in ‘99 when all the talk was about Phil and Shaq and Kobe and how the Lakers could win it all. I was just kind of sick of hearing about the Lakers all the time from all my friends, and when I looked at the standings, I saw that the Lakers had the best record, and the Clippers had the worst, so I started to cheer for the Clippers, just to be contrary. The next season (00-01) was when we had Maggette, Odom, Miles, and Richardson, and we doubled our win total (15 to 30!). Plus, as I went around bragging about being a Clippers fan, I found out that I was not the only one, so I’ve been a fan every since.
Fan from my only NBA game
I have only followed the NBA since the mid 90’s and was planning a round the world backpacking trip (on my way to live in New Zealand for a year) with my fiance in 2000 when I knew we were going to have a couple of stops in the US and wanted to take in an NBA game more than anything. Our itinery was set to include LA and San Fransisco so had to sort out games within the 8 day span before we flew onto Hawaii.
The Warriors were out of town and I couldn’t believe how much the Lakers tickets were. Could have splashed the cash on Lakers seats but decided to investigate the Clippers and as the British always like an underdog, decided I could fit in a game against the Trailblazers in the Staples Center.
So Feb 25th 2001, I watch a Lamar Odom lead team beat the Trailblazers in a double OT classic 123-120. We had pretty good seats and I’ve got loads of photos. Loved every minute of it, despite having to describe everything to my other half!!
We arrived on a little train not far from the Staples but worst thing was the game ended late (was an evening game) and we got lost leaving the stadium as we left at a different exit (after I plundered the gift shop!). Ended up getting lost in downtime with no-one around but dodgy looking cars. Long story short, got back to our shit youth hostel just off Hollywood Blvd but my fiance says she is never going back to LA as she was scared for her life!!!
Hoping the next time I catch the Clippers will be in Madison Square Garden on my honeymoon!
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a small personal question, if you dont mind ClippersUK,
did you originally come from the states? Or were you from the UK most/ all of your life?
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
Born and bread in the Uk
Just in the tiny minority that prefers basketball to soccer
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by ClippersUK on Jul 26, 2009 2:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That's cool
Reverse for me: I prefer soccer to basketball but only slightly.
Don't get me wrong
I’m a big soccer fan still. I’ve just followed that for 30 years so I find the NBA an exciting sport that I prefer to watch, even the Clippers!
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any intrest in football?
(American Football*)
I believe UK might possibly call it a different name?
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
I used to follow it a bit and sometimes still do
I understand all the rules and positions and through buying Madden games, get to know all the new players year on year.
Embarrassingly though, from the days of Icke Woods and Boomer Esiason, my team is the Bengals.
Yep, a Bengals and Clippers fan – I’m crying into my lunch as I type this!!!!
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i am picking up a definite pattern
hehahahaha
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by Clipochistic on Jul 29, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Newcastle United and Clippers fan here
Birds of a feather flock together, no? One could even find parallels between the two clubs: stubborn management, marquee players who don’t quite deliver, promising players traded/transferred, but there are passionate fans who will still follow.
are you able to access the broadcasts?
thru league pass?
i am curious.
as far as msg goes, you have a better chance of being on the jumbotron with your sweet at the clips game, hahahaha! priceless!
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by Clipochistic on Jul 26, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
International League Pass Broadband
Is a wonderful thing! Started up last season so I pay up front and can watch any game with their local NBA feed. Timings stink for me as evening games start at 3.30am but they replay games on a loop for 24 hours. I reckon I saw in excess of 50 Clipper games last year.
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by ClippersUK on Jul 26, 2009 11:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
your dedication is admirable
i stopped watching about game 50 last year, so we saw a similar number of games, hehaheha!
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by Clipochistic on Jul 27, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I know, it was tough
I actually started a Clippers Podcast up last year and kept it going through from November to about March but then stopped when I realised I was putting in more work than some of the bloody players – ha ha ha
Steve put a link up on the front page for me, nicely.
Anyway, I’m going to be starting it up again around mid October and should be putting out a half hour show every week.
Helps me get some of the things off my chest!
Bingo! Oh me oh my!
I root for the underdogs and I'm from L.A.
So naturally the Clippers are a perfect team to get behind. I’m sure that’s the reason for many of you too along with not liking the Lakers. I don’t dislike the Lakers, sometimes, I’ll even root for them. That’s only cause I have city pride and want to rep Los Angeles.
The time I became a Clips fan though was in the middle of the Lakers 3 peat. I saw a Clippers game with Miles, QRich, and Elton, and it was really great to watch. This was when Odom was injured and eric piatkowski was one of the best 3 point shooters in the league.
It's funny that a lot of you were Laker fans...
during some legendary times, and then jumped off the bandwagon as soon as Magic retired, or Shaq got traded away. Don’t worry, you don’t have to be ashamed to admit that you used to be a Laker fan, because it doesn’t sound like you guys were ever true Laker fans to begin with. So much for sticking with a team through thick and thin, huh?
Like a few of you, I, too, started off as a Laker fan (and proudly still am one). I was also disappointed when Shaq and Fisher left, Rudy T. took over, and Kobe descended into his short-lived “dark era.” During a particularly bad game, I started flipping channels just in time to see the Clippers start the 4th quarter in a match up against the Pistons. I wasn’t too fond of the Pistons at that point (this was the season after the ’04 NBA Finals), so I was already pulling for the Clippers.
The Clips took Detroit to two overtimes, and only ended up losing by two or three. I was really impressed with their collective performance; I know he’s a low-down dirty traitor now, but Elton Brand played with so much intensity and had so much fight in that game. Despite the loss, I became immediately hooked and invested in the Clippers, and I’ve loved them ever since. In fact, each and every year whenever my friends and I talk about the Lakers, I always say that I hope the Lakers go 78-4, losing four games to… yep, you guessed it… the Clippers.
Why? Because the Lakers are already established. They’ve got the legacy, the championships, and the respect. Losing to the Clippers isn’t going to keep them out of the playoffs. But on the other hand (in my mind, at least), beating the Lakers, or any top-tier team, multiple times can do a lot for the Clippers’ confidence and help with re-building their reputation. I’d be really conflicted in a LAC/LAL WCF match up. But when it comes to the regular season games, I’ll always root for the Clippers.
The Lakers and their fans tend to get a completely undeserved bad rap around here, and I think that’s a real shame. You guys have more in common with them than you’ll ever know, and the sooner both sides wake up to that fact, the better it will be.
"We're Rock Stars... We're Lakers."
-- Lamar Odom
"We had the skull-and-crossbones on our helmets, the black jerseys, and the whole bit... and we lived it."
-- George "The HitMan" Atkinson
"WE STOMPED YOU OUT!"
-- Michael Strahan
by 5_Giant_Raider_Clipper_Laker_13 on Jul 26, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions
Spare me
I for one grew up a Laker fan in the 80s. I stopped being a fan b/c of Shaq and what I perceived to be the boring offense going through him. Yes he was great, but the basketball IMO was uninteresting. I’d always liked the underdog nature of the Clippers and dropped the Lakers when Shaq was there.
I respect their competency, though. With good management they’d compete with the Lakers year in and year out.
same her about shaq. it was really boring to watch. i think honestly the height of my laker fan dom was when they were the “lake show” and were underdogs.
I guess the clippres are the ultimate underdog team. But I am sure that at this point im set with the clips.
So all you guys who love the clips becuase they are the under dog, what happens when the lakers are winning 30 games, and the clips are in the finals?
shouldnt you be an Elton brand fan, and not a clipper fan then? As far as he’s the only clipper thats really been a true winner. I feel if Lamar Odom was never on the Clipper he would be a more consistent player today. Sterling seems to cultivate a losing attitude. It’s like the spirit in players die once they play for the Clips.
I’m curious in what way do you think clipper fans and laker fans are alike?
I’m a diehard laker fan. And have stuck with them through thick and thin. FromKareem to Vlade. Vlade to Shaq. Shaq to Kwame. and now Kwame to Pau.
I feel alot of clipper fans are just clipper fans to go against the grain/hate on everyone else. Don’t get me wrong however, I have tons more respect for the die-hard clipper fan, than the bandwagon laker fan you guys seem to despise. However I feel that a large majority of clipper fans dont share that same respect for die-hard laker fans. It would be nice if the respect went both ways, rather than Clipper fans going against anything that is popular.
Until that day however, I wish you guys the best, I would love nothing more to have a real rivalry form. It makes the game funner for us all!
I respect die hard Laker fans
but they are a very low percentage, I would say a 90% are band wagon and 10% are die hard.
In Gordon we trust
by bestclipfan on Jul 31, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
and being a die hard Lakers fan still isn't that painful
The Lakers have missed the playoffs what.. 2 times over the past 25 years? We’ve only made the playoffs 3 times TOTAL the past 25 years. The worst two seasons for the Lakers the past 25 years are 33 and 34 wins. Those would be considered solid seasons by Clipper standards. Not making the playoffs is a travesty to Lakerland, making the playoffs is like winning a championship in Clipperland. If the Lakers are South Korea then we are North Korea.
Anyways I dislike certain Lakers (didn’t like fat lazy Shaq or the bratty Kobe) but I actually liked the Showtime Lakers who played with passion and were fun to watch. That alone make it impossible for me to root for them, maybe once annoying Kobe and cheapshot Bynum are gone I can watch a Laker game without loathing their team. I also agree that die-hard Laker fans are not acknowledged and get lumped together with the bandwagon fans (which make up most of your constituency) but at least your team reaffirms your faith every few years while ours only offer glimmers of hope year after year.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 1, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Once Phil Jackson isn't coach anymore
Kobe is gone, Pau is gone, and Bynum is gone, and Lamar is gone, I wouldn’t mind watching a game (but not rooting for them of course, [but rooting for them to lose!)].
Anyways, if Clippers ever win a championship in my life span, I’m going to the parade and vacation (that is if we do have a parade..)
The Lakers fan that only know the name “Kobe Bryant” and “Pau Gasol” disgustes me because its literally like argueing with a mental patient! “Just watch, Pau Gasol is the best PF in the nba!” Not saying Pau isn’t top 5 or anything, but I wouldnt rank him #1.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
Btw, anybody else think that if Phil Jackson wasn't coaching the Lakers anymore
the Lakers wouldnt go as far? I say that they’d make the playoffs.. barely.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
thank you for your honest opinion. I really feel for your guys situation. Every year i always think maybe this year they will get their act together. Losing Brand was perhaps the worst thing to happen to you guys in a long while.
I think if the clippers made the playoffs , you guys would have your share of bandwagon fans too lol. But as a diehard laker fan, I look at those bandwagoners as a sign of fortuitous times.
While it was nice during the post showtime and shaq era seeing only true laker fans, its definately worth the sacrifice of having a good team dealing with wanna be’s. So as a compliment, I hope the clippers can get a few bandwagoners this year too! and maybe one day in the very distant future the lakes and clips will have the same amount of bandwagoners lol..
also what would you guys think about the clippers moving to San Diego. I moving out of the lakers shadow would do them alot of good, and SD is known for supporting its teams in high volumes despite how bad they are.
Somebody mentioned how San Diego was unprofitable when Clippers were there which is why I think we're not going back.
And Los Angeles is a big city that can house 2 teams. Moving out of the Lakers shadow isn’t going to change our team image. Consistently winning and showing that we are a high caliber team is what will change our image.
And 2006 was when all the band wagoners came out for the Clippers. That was frustrating because I got grouped with them too as the “people that only like the Clippers now cause they’re winning” even though I’ve been a fan for many years already. I’ve stopped wearing my Clippers jerseys at school because of how many of these people were wearing it. Yeah I like it when our fanbase grows, but I want it to grow with people that will be committed to the team than with people that’ll leave once we start losing which pretty much happened after 2006.
well its not like every bandwagoner goes away. It every time of success, younger kids and non-basketball fan will become addicted to basketball reguardless of how the team does. That’s pretty much what happened with me. No one in my family watched basketball when I was young. But then one day i became enamored with watching magic and the showtime lakers. And I stayed watching after all the showtime players retired. Here it is 20 years later, and im still a laker fan.
I’m sure lots of people started liking the clippers during the larry brown days and stayed on, just like they started liking the clipper when they had brand.
That's true
Even though I resent some of the band wagoners that came on in 2006, after reading your comment, I start remembering of quite a few of them that still stayed on.
I remember the season after our playoff season, we had a good run and was 2 games away from entering the playoffs. Our fans were still there, but the season after, Brand had his injury and we had a horrible record which lost a good part of our fanbase. That was also the year when Lakers got Gasol and was a favorite again in LA. So gradually, many of those bandwagoners from 2006 started moving back to them. And when FElton went to the sixers, that was the nail in the coffin because he was our main star. Now, our big pool of band wagoners from 2006 was almost depleted besides a few but I’m sure Blake Griffin will be able to bring some of them back along with new fans.
Hopefully 5 years from now, a fanpost similar to this will be made and we’ll have a lot of people saying Eric Gordon and Blake Griffin was what drawed them in.
Yeah part of the reason why we got so many band wagoners
is because the Lakers were pretty horrible that year so I have to think even if we had done well the year that the Lakers got Gasol we would still lose fans who would go back to the championship favorites.
In Gordon we trust
haha i know, man i never thought id see the day when the clippers go farther in the playoffs than the lakeshow. Who’d you guys beat in the first round that year? im thinking the jazz but im not sure…I was rooting for you guys to beat phoenix however, i hated those guys lol
Denver
almost swept them it was a pretty easy series. I was psyched to play the Lakers but then they gave up 3 games in a row. That would have been a fun series and the clips probably would have won and we would have been in the conference finals but oh well.
In Gordon we trust
We also gave Phoenix a run for their money also.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
clippers and why?
I started watching basketball when I was a young kid in the 80’s. At the time the only games on tv were the local teams. No ESPN, TNT, Fox Sports etc. So it was Lakers or Clippers. And I always went for the underdogs, which was definitely the Clippers in comparison with the showtime Lakers. But one of the big reasons I took the Clippers over the Lakers was Stu Lantz. I think he is probably the most pompous ass homer I’ve ever listened to. I couldn’t stand him and always wanted the Lakers to lose for this reason. Now that I’ve watched league pass I realize that most teams have the traditional homer in the booth. But none draw my ire like the king homer Stu Lantz.
stu lantz really isn’t a homer compared to some of the other teams out there.
I think I was spoiled growing up and through young adulthood living in LA. the laker and clipper announcers generally have been good, but I figured it was just par for the course.
Since I live near oakland I watch a lot of warrior games now, and their announcers are far far far more homery than either LA team . They also are pretty terrible.
Stu, Chick, Ralph, Vin Sculley. I think we are honestly blessed announcer wise in LA. Even joel myers on the lakers isn’t that bad. Hell we had billwalton doing color for the clippers before he hit the big time if you like him (bill walton is a terrible announcer in my opinion though).
Great Fanpost by the way
I enjoy learning some background on the peeps who post on this site
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by ClippersUK on Jul 26, 2009 4:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
this is really cool reading your responses
i copied and pasted this from another thread, for those who are not thread monkeys:
“i liked teams because i liked their uniforms (simpler times). the powder blue was very appealing to me at 10 years old (or so).
then when the clips moved to la i adopted them as my team. i would write little basic programs so that i could examine their statistics (filling them in during the games, yep ima an ubber nerd). their wasnt as much coverage back then.
as zhiv points out, i was always a little oppositional back then, and i think i became a fan to rebel against all of the front-running laker fans. add in a dysfunctional level of stubborness, stir vigorously and voila!
when i turned 16, me and my buddy would drive to the sports arena for games.
i was at the game when ron harper got injured (i remember harp was somewhat trying to clown mugsy boagues for his lack of height).
anyhow, i always took a lot of crap over it, but i will always be a clipper fan.
i think in a clinical setting my condition is know as ‘learned helplessness’."
i should also add that when i was in high school, i got in a fight with a kid who was wearing a bobble head magic johnson tshirt, while i was adorning a danny manning bobble head tshirt. i can only imagine how stupdily funny this must have looked (it was somewhat of a ‘slap fight’). so in a romantic sense i have ‘bled’ for the clippers, khehehe.
i used to have a full nerf court and i would pretend i was michael cage grabbing boards and throwing it down (sans jerry curl and white as day).
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It was actually calculated ...
I grew up a Lakers fan, too, back in the days when Jerry and Elgin wore jerseys, not suits.
Kind of wandered away from the game, and then in the ‘90s I had a business with blue-collar employees. Our tastes in music, literature, sports, TV … all were different. So, seeking a way to bond with the boys, I bought season tickets for the Clippers, as basketball is my favorite sport.
Mind you, in those days we had a fair team, went to the playoffs, gave Utah a run for their money. Seemed a good investment. And, when I took Mrs. Pipedreams to the Sports Arena, we often made a day of it, visiting one of the museums, the IMAX, and/or the rose garden. I liked the Sports Arena.
But my guys never really bought into the whole thing. The tickets were often impossible to give away — in 1999, for a special occasion, I had a block of about forty seats, and invited about 100 people to a game, a little nervous I might run out. NOBODY CAME.
Anyway, our Staples seats were in the midst of some player families, and I liked watching Pike’s kids grow up — other stuff, like that, made the players more human, and of course being Clippers nobody mistook them for gods.
at least you didnt have to fight anyone for the best seat... hehe
you must have played ‘king of the castle’ with all those seats.
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by Clipochistic on Jul 27, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Was a big Lakers fan during the "Show Time" era
with Magic, Worthy, Kareem, etc., but lost interest after Kareem retired. I started watching some Lakers games on TV again when they started winning championships in the early 2000’s. Didn’t care too much for Kobe though, but really liked Shaq (if nothing else you gotta admit the guy has personality). I was just starting to get back into the Lakers then that whole Kobe rape charge thing happened. Then after that Shaq left and I blamed Kobe for that (like everyone else did), so I just gave up on the Lakers again. Then one day in the summer of ‘05, I was jogging at the beach and listening to a sports talk radio station when, lo and behold, Sam Cassell was being interviewed. I always liked Sammy’s game, so when he said he was coming to the Clippers I said to my self “Clippers!? Oh yeah, there is another NBA team in L.A.”. I decided to check out a few Clippers games during the “05-”06 season and I became hooked! I’ve been a season ticket holder ever since. Becoming a Clippers fan, to me, is like becoming a compulsive gambler: if you win big the first time you gamble you can become hooked, sending good money after bad always expecting to win again like the first time. But of course you never do. Hopefully this next season we’ll become winners again and justify my investment. Come on Clippers! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!!
"Excellence...is not an act, but a habit" Aristotle
When Bo Kimble was drafted
we got our first Clipper season seats. We have had some ups but for the most part is has been a partnership in misery starting with Bo Kimble completely sucking.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I take it Bo Kimble was "the next big hope"?
And he turned into the next big dope!
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i remember bo kimble on the cover of 'the national'
i worked at the balboa fun zone and had no real responsibility whatsoever.
another time of great hope indeed.
we picked up bo kmble and loy vaught. we should prolly have taken duane shinzius and tony massenburg since they would eventually become clippers anyways.
he did make that eyes closed left handed free throw, or so legend goes…
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by Clipochistic on Jul 27, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Bo Kimble ...
… always talked about Bo Kimble in the third person.
And he couldn’t shoot nearly as well as he thought he could.
As a middle school kid in Indiana,
My town’s high school basketball team seemed like royalty. The Marion Giants (the same high school that later produced Zach Randolph) won three state championships in a row featuring a sweet-shooting guard named Jay “Silk” Edwards. Like much of Marion, I prouldly attended every game with my dad, and as far as I knew, Marion had the best basketball team in the world.
As I moved out of Indiana, Edwards moved on to Indiana University where he became the Big Ten Freshman of the Year and an All-American his sophomore season. But he wasn’t a Coach Knight kind of player so he entered the 1989 NBA draft where he was selected by the Clippers in the 2nd round.
Rooting for Edwards and the teams he played for (Indiana and the Clippers) kept me attached to my Hoosier roots even though Edwards completely pissed away his NBA career (4 games and 26 minutes) with drugs. He bounced around the CBA for awhile but never got another chance at the NBA.
Besides the Clippers, I had no other NBA allegiance. With Danny Manning and Larry Brown, I naively believed the Clips were an up and coming team, and I enjoyed being the only Clipper fan I knew. The Larry Brown era was far too short, but I’ve proudly stuck with the Clips for 20 years.
the Larry Brown era was indeed to short
i remember the sails losing their wind when lb left town.
there was so much optimism during his short stay in clipperland.
Clippers Basketball.... It's Masochistic!
by Clipochistic on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm from Norman OK
But I started rooting because of Gordon. In 2002/3 I watch this kid ply ncaa bbal at Marquette. Now he’s a star with the Heat. Well, it happens to be two years ago I saw this kid turned the corner driving to the basket. The way he did it was unreal. I haven’t seen many people can turn the corner the way he did. Well now, I’m just waiting for him to explode. He needs to take the go-to-guy mentality though.
If It Wasn't For Bad Love, I Wouldn't Be a Clipper Fan...
I was doing a divorce for a guy who was having trouble paying his bill. He had Clipper season tickets and asked if I would take payment in Clippers tickets. I was a big Lakers fan at the time, but I figured anything – even Clippers tickets – was better than nothing. My brother and brother-in-law had Lakers season tickets (still do) but they’re up near the ceiling in 318 and I would get serious vertigo up there. It was like watching from another planet. You really needed a Hubbell telescope. Going to Clips games it was pretty exciting to be able to sit close enough to read the names on the backs of the unis without binoculars. When I discovered you could sit down there at a Clippers game for about what it costs to sit with your head brushing the ceiling for a Lakers game, I offered to split the seats with him the next season. The year after that he bailed out all together and I inherited the seats. You go to almost every game and after awhile the players become like family – you can’t help but to become invested. First couple of Clippers – Lakers games I was one conflicted doppleganger, but after awhile the purple and gold just sort of seeps out of your blood. Besides its sort of fun to wear your Clipper gear into Starbucks like a big FU during the annual Laker play off frenzy.
by Clipster Hipster on Jul 27, 2009 10:44 PM PDT reply actions
This is the prizewinner
Isn’t it? How classic is this route to Clipperdom? And the short spandex post below is a nice kicker.
by citizen zhiv on Jul 28, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't know you got George's tickets
this way. Glad you did, part of the fun of season tickets are the other season ticket holders around you.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
That is a CLASSIC story, right there!
'Cause how you play, is how you'll be remembered. PLAY LOUD!
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jul 28, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Forgot to mention the Clipper Spirit
At my age, young girls in tight spandex shorts go a long way towards making up for 19-63.
by Clipster Hipster on Jul 27, 2009 10:53 PM PDT reply actions
me too! the league's best dance team!?
how do they justify these claims?
is there like a yearly nba dance squad dance off? where all the teams meet in round robin competition. the finals broadcast (tape delayed) on espn ‘the ocho’.
laker girls like to got serv’d (or something along those lines)
Clippers Basketball.... It's Masochistic!
by Clipochistic on Jul 27, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
well, there is the "bracket"
http://www.nba.com/dancebracket/2009/
In 2008, we finished second behind the Heat.
haha thats awesome!
they have been saying this about the spirit since the 80’s.
every other stadium i have been in has a similar sales pitch for their dance team.
Clippers Basketball.... It's Masochistic!
by Clipochistic on Jul 28, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
NBA Live
I, as a kid, remember going to my dad’s brother’s house were he would have there insanely enthusiastic Laker playoff gatherings. the whole place is rooting for them. this is the first time really seeing games on tv. magic worthy etc. they loved them. so i started to love them. and i did for some years. there was on other team in so cal right? Later in the later in my early teens my older brother, myself and some friends began to play video games competitively. sports in particular. we would all pick about 4 teams each, to control in a season. We would select teams in a draft type setting. ’ hey , what in the world, there is another team in LA! before ever having to get that low to have to select them, i noticed one year there was actually a player on that that team that had his one special move. some guy named Manning. Well that league i mentioned got somewhat bigger and the miami heats and the timberwolves and the mavericks and clippers, teams that were atrocious, had to be picked. my brother picked them and made lead look like gold. he literally made Lamond Murray play offensively like Jordan and low Vaught have offense like Malone. so i was a leader not a follower. different. the clippers seemed like an upstart team. so about the same time Cedric Ceballos went off to the lake for some fun mia, and around the same time Van Exel was off in the corner of the locker room crying when Tyra Banks came in; i was learning Loy, Nesby, Wright, Maurice Taylor, Closs, Barry, Boykins, McInnis and Troy Hudson.
by Takebb909 on Jul 27, 2009 11:11 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
remember getting exited
i was, naively, excited about acquiring such players as; Cherokee Parks, Isaac Austin, Pedrag Drobnjak, Wang Zhi Zhi. I detested Derek Anderson for bad mouthing the team after he left.
by Takebb909 on Jul 27, 2009 11:32 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
i was a fully vested clipper fan at this point, but somewhere around the early college years, my friend from high school’s dad who works in sales, got us tickets to the clippers, in maybe the 15th row down behind the players.
he still gets us tickets actually since apparently sales people swap their tickets all the time. that said, 4 of us started yelling “wang zhi zhi” every time he touched the ball that game.
Getting really good seats makes you totally do stuff you normally wouldnt especially if you are an immature college kid. I think my friend and i , got 2 seats as a pair. He is a clipper fan too, but i’d say more a casual one just because he hates the lakers and is a huge shawn marion fan. So we were inthe 5th or 6th row for a game (i think the yera before nash came to the suns), and during that quiet period right after tipoff when the suns won the tip marion was dribbling down the sideline near us, and i just jump up and yell MARION YOU SUCK. and then sat down. HAHA, he didnt flinch at all.
that same friend wore a suns jersey to game 4 of the suns-clips playoff series a few years later, when i bought tickets in the nosebleeds. I had a felton jersey on. I swear my friend would have been killed had we lost. He got booed the entire way down the escalator.
Bumped
Now that SP has bumped this nice thread to the main page, where it should get even a bit more activity, though I’m still looking for a comment from Himself, I’m wondering if there isn’t some material along the same lines back in the National Archives somewhere.
An occasional look into said Archives, which sadly don’t go back that far—what a short, strange trip it’s been—might be a nice way to while away the August dog days.
Steve
Is it true that Fanposts get bumped up to the main page when they’ve 3 recommendations?
Bingo! Oh me oh my!
No...
Three Recs moves them up on the sidebar to the Recommended FanPosts sections. I can bump them to the front page (or one of my minions like Zhiv or Mikey can also).
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Aug 3, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
long time
Man at 34 I feel like a really old clipper fan. I grew up as a laker fan with magic, worthy and the gang winning championships in the 80s. Around 1990 I guess I wanted to be different so I decided following the clippers. I remember going to the earthquake playoff game at the anaheim convention center vs Utah in 1993. Who can forget in 1992 vs Houston how we should have beaten them in the first nd. Harper got the and one to put us ahead with less than a minute to go but somebody hit a 3 and it was over. How bout Bill fitch leading that scrappy bunch to the payoffs. Vaught, Murray, Ellis, Massenberg, Pooh. Been there throughout all the downs and then a few ups. Looking good now!
It was an earthquake...
It was the Rodney King riots. I was at that game. Fun game. Man, I hated Karl Malone in that series.
I was also at the Lakers-Blazers playoff game a couple nights earlier at the Forum, the actual day of the riots. That was an interesting night. Things were already getting ugly before the game tipped off, and there I was with my buddy Rob, a couple of pasty white guys, a few blocks from Florence and Normandy.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Aug 3, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
The days of Manning, Smith, Grant and Harper
My dad and a bunch of coworkers split season tickets at the sports arena and he would bring me along. Danny Manning wasnt as hurt, Ron Harper was amazing, Charles Smith was bigger than life (and still one of my favorite players) and Benoit Benjamin was a problemtic big man. I still have my Ron Harper #4 jersey in a child’s size and was at the game that they traded Benjamin for Polyneice.
I was complaing to my dad that last season that it was his fault for starting my on the road to Clipper fandom – his response, “I just went to those games to see the other teams.” Now he tells me.
Believe it or not ..
I became a fan in 1997 when the Clippers selected Maurice Taylor with the 14th overall pick. Having grown up in Ann Arbor, MI., I used to support all players coming out of Michigan but soon after Mo Taylor arrived so did Q.Rich, D.Miles, etc. Basically, for a young kid, the Clippers made basketball fun whereas the Lakers (and their fans) made the game look like a ritualistic cult that threw tantrums over their heralded players.
Safe to say I made the better decision.
About that divorce ...
I’m guessing the Clippers season tickets weren’t one of the things that the spouses fought over? “You take ’em!” “No, you take ’em!”
Kinda like a Koczinski Christmas.
Your guess is correct, the Clipper tickets were not an issue
Actually the really interesting thing I remember about that particular divorce was that the woman my client was divorcing was supposedly blind, and at some point in the proceeding not only did we discover she was on a bowling team, but she actually had the high average.
by Clipster Hipster on Jul 28, 2009 4:34 PM PDT reply actions
Must have been her season tickets!
Bingo! Oh me oh my!
by ClippersUK on Jul 28, 2009 5:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Story keeps getting better
What’s next? Sharp-eyed falsifying bowler not a Clipper fan? Go figure.
by citizen zhiv on Jul 28, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
She also used to keep score for our softball team
we thought she was the greatest blind person in history. It was quite a blow to find out she wasn’t blind after all.
I was split between Lakers and Clippers
I first got into basketball when the Lakers were playing for a repeat championship back in the latter 80’s. It was very exciting to watch and hear all the buzz about it at school. I knew about the Clippers and had a soft spot in my heart for them, pulling for them as the underdog. In a way, having both teams was like having a two kids: one was great while the other was the black sheep but you cared for both.
When the Clippers made the playoffs in early 90’s there was a buzz and I wanted to go to the playoff game at the Anaheim Convention Center but couldn’t afford to. I think what began to solidify my fandom for them was the very first exhibition game at the newly built Anaheim Arena (now Honda Center) against the Warriors in ’92 or ’93. My brother and I wanted tickets badly cuz the NBA was coming to our backyard. A couple more exhibition games there and I felt more connection to the Clips. I wish they had moved to Anaheim back then but I guess Sterling knew that a downtown arena was gonna be built.
I must admit that I’m a casual fan more than a hardcore fan but I keep dibs throughout the season. I’m looking forward to this season and hope it’s better than last year.
Underdog
Growing up, I was un-athletic (and a dork), except that I could run fast. Therefore, in the social world, I was a classic underdog. While running high school track at Morningside High School (next to the Forum) and playing church softball and basketball, I began to enjoy sports and became more athletic. However, I will never forget my distaste for those who were cruel to the “lesser capable” athlete.
Later, I played soccer in college. I continued to pursue soccer through both playing and coaching. Eventually, I gained enough expertise and credentials such that now, I am in charge of training “recreation” and “club” soccer coaches for approximately 1/4 of Southern California. I still play at the age of 57 in an over-30 league. Most of the players are in their 30s and 40s. This should qualify me as an underdog, but one who gained some success over time.
When my son played NJB, we attended a Clippers game at the Pond. During the 4th quarter, we found ourselves 5 rows behind the bench. Imagine the excitement of seeing the large players, with such agility and gracefulness, so close that you could hear the squeak of their shoes on the floor. At about this time, we went to the opening of the new Sportmart in town to see Danny Manning.
My passion for the Clippers and basketball has grown over time. As has been stated by Steve Perrin (and others), seeing the underdog succeed is mesmerizing.
I continue to sarcastically ask, “Where are all the Bulls fans?” To follow a perpetual winner requires little (bandwagon). I prefer to pick a team (Clippers) and hope for the future.
Thanks to you all for making my Clipper experience rich.
I don't believe I havent read Steve's story yet...
I am a bit curious. Am I the only one curious of his story?
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
Sometime during the middle of the week, the Clippers had this special deal for 5 dollar seats at the sports arena and the seats weren’t all that bad. My dad, being the great but cheap man i know, only took me to these games as a child. In turn, I never attended a laker game because they were too expensive! I watched every game and although I really liked Chick Hearn (sorry Laker fans) I immediately got attached to Ralph Lawler and PG Gary “the general” Grant. I could go on, like everyone else here but i’ll keep it at that.
Go Clippers!
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
My mom drank while pregnant?
Yea, that would explain it except it not true.
Winning is too easy, cheering for a team that makes the playoffs once every eight years is more challenging.
FA in 2010.
Classic
Not quite as good as the faux blind divorcee, but a solid runner-up—except that it’s just a joke and not true! It does, however, perhaps help to explain my own penchant for the underdog, as it is definitely true of the all-too-human Mother of Zhiv.
by citizen zhiv on Jul 30, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s pretty funny that most of you guys used to be laker fans, but then switched because you didnt like a particular player on the lakers. That doesn’t make any sense to me. Are you gonna switch again when the clippers get someone you dont like?
Also going against what your friends/everyone else likes just to go against what everyone else likes is just as stupid as conforming to like something because its popular.
As an Angel fan living in LA, I have sympathy for you clipper fans, since both of our teams get overlooked by much bigger/storied franchises with the Dodgers and lakers respectively. But after reading some of these reasons, that sympathy kinda disapeared. For me becoming an Angel’s fan was almost instinctual. I didnt care the Angels were horrible at the time, and the dodgers had all the stars (Nomo, Piazza). The Angels and Me was like love at first sight. Im just as to see almost none of you guys had that same love at first sight experiance with the Clips.
I think for me it was more I started off with 2 basketball teams and just picked the one that appealed to me the most by around high school age.
Its a unique situation for most basketball fans I’d figure since no other city has 2 teams. Some player being signed, or just wanting to cheer for the black sheep team of LA probably just helps push some people over, but in the end that was the team they are going to pick.
I still can’t believe people who are fans of both teams like they are playing 2 seats of poker or something.
Have you guys ever seen a guy with say an angels cap and a dodger jersey at interleague games. I’m sure theres got to be a few there. I am not sure how that works. I’d also have to say a guy like snoop dogg is a terrible fan, since he seems to be the ultimate in bandwagoning. He’s the anti billy crystal.
I think in baseball its alot easier to be fans of both since they are in different leagues, and theoretically the two teams can meet in the world series.
It also helps that during interleague play, the angels play the dodgers rivals vice versa. That being said, its alot easier for casual baseball fans to like both since the two are only in competition against eacother in the city itself, not in the standings
Anaheim Playoff Game
Was because of the Rodney King riots, not the quake, which didn’t happen ’til MLK Day in ’94.
Gotta keep your catastrophes straight, gymrat.
Like some of y'all...
Everyone was a Lakers’ fan and I wanted to be different. So I became a Clippers fan at the age of 10. Some of my favorite moments include:
“With the first pick of the 1998 NBA draft, the Los Angeles Clippers select…Michael Olowkandi from University of the Pacific.” (A move I defended way longer than I should have.)
The D-Miles and Q-Rich youth movement antennae and all.
The improbable, considering the history, playoff run in 2006.
I was a kid living in DC area in the 80’s. I decided in addition to my hometown teams I wanted teams in Western Conferences in all 4 major sports to pull for. I chose all SoCal teams (at least they were at the time). LA Kings, Padres, Raiders, and the Clippers. I moved to Phoenix area in 1990 and saw Clips live for the first time at the Madhouse on McDowell. I actually have become a bigger Clips fan by living in Phoenix. Suns fans make it very easy. I never thought I’d find anyone more annoying than Yankee or Cowboys fans, until I met them. They have a special strain of myopia known as Offense-itis. 2006 was awesome, minus the end result. Just seeing them sweat was fun.
When I started pulling for the Clips it was more about where they were located than them being an underdog. However, over the years, the fact that most people can’t believe I pull for the Clips makes it all the more enjoyable. When the payoff comes down the road (probably after Sterling sells the team when I’m 60) it will be all the sweeter.
If you haven't met anything more annoying then a Suns fan
then you haven’t met a lot of Laker fans lol. But yeah it is funny how many clipper fans pick up the team even when they live no where near LA.
In Gordon we trust
I have no doubt I’d have Laker fans at the top of the list if I lived in LA. But, I have met plenty of Laker fans over the years in SoCal and in other places. Plenty of former SoCal residents here in the Valley of the Sun who stayed Laker fans plus all the bandwagoners whose Bulls jerseys are growing mold in the back of their closets. Almost all of the folks I’ve met from both camps are frontrunners who know very little about basketball. You try to have a conversation and it ends quickly because they have no clue. I mention Jamaal Wilkes or Norm Nixon and they look at my like I’m speaking Mandarin.
Suns fans are more annoying because they try to actually debate you (debating a Suns fan is like debating a brainwashed religious extremist). Of course, these debates all entail only offense and a player’s offensive skills. Rebounding and defense are never mentioned. They all think the object of an NBA game is to score 140 points. I guess I can’t blame them as its all they ever known.
ni juang guo yu?
" Like i’m speaking madarin."
ahaha jk.
Anyways, I’m going to have to say Laker fans are more annoying. The fake ones atleast. See, while Phoenix fans only know offense, Laker fans only know Kobe. So if for some miracouse reason they’ve heard of Kevin Durant or Derrick Rose, then they MIGHt have some knowledge of the game. But usually Laker fans are so ingaged in the conversation of “Kobe is the best” that it just disgustes me. Not too open- minded.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
The first basketball game I ever went to was a Clippers game, when I was like 6 or 7 years old. I really liked watching Jeff McGinnis, Q, Darius Miles, and Lamar Odom play. Earl Boykins was fun to watch too. I never really hated the Lakers, I just followed and like the Clippers a lot more, because they were so unpredictable.
Where would the Clippers be without Sean Rooks?
all my relatives live in boston so they all love the celtics and they hate the lakers, so I already did not like the lakers, I never really liked the celtics either. I ended up becoming a mavs fan because of Steve Nash, and Dirk, once the mavs traded Nash I stopped wathcing basketball because I was young, when I was thirteen I accidentially stumbled upon fsn prime ticket where I witnessed my first clipper game. I was fascinated by how hard elton brand played. They were bad though, but thats why I became a fan because it was all the more satisfying to see a team go from the weak to strong, jumping on the bandwagon when a team is good is so annoying, everyone knows what to expect, that is why I like the clippers because I don’t know what to expect.
Max McCarthy
no, when they start winning i will appreciate winning a lot more, the lakers always win, when the clippers win it will be way more satisfying
Max McCarthy
by Swagmeister33 on Aug 4, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
the lakers always win because they are a great franchise and actually kno what they are doing when it comes to trading, drafting, and signing free agents.
The lakers go through cycles just like every other team. The post showtime era lakers were bad, the post shaq lakers were bad.
Ahaha, I wouldnt say drafting.
They practically always give their drafts away, and so far, (from what I could remember), none of the drafts seem to be doing particularly well. That is of course, the except of Jordan Farmar and Bynum. Maybe an argument could be heard with Marc Gasol, Sasha, Walton, Turiaf, or Wafer; but for the most part, I would say the Lakers management does work around Kobe pretty well. But I would love to see what the Lakers would be like without Phil Jackson… oh thats right… I believe it was the 05-06 years when they were doing pretty bad with Rudy T.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
Well, i mean recently of course...(in terms of drafting)
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
lol what are you talking about homie?
its not exactly easy to get good players when you’re winning the nba championship 3 years in a row. It’s not like the clippers where they get a lottery selection every year.
The one time the Lakers did get a high draft pick, they got Andrew Bynum, who is already better than most of the centers in the league.
Farmar, Walton, and Sasha play a valuable role on our bench. They pretty much are our bench. We turned marc gasol into Pau Gasol. We turned our picks this year into 3 million dollars and a future 2-round pick for a player that wasnt even going to make our roster in the first place. So yea we did a great job drafting.
With the Marc Gasol to Pau
that was interms of trading. Never said you guys made bad trades my man. Hell, its a bit hard to say Andrew Bynum was talented. (He is now, but when he was first drafted, he was arguably a very bad pick.) I think the help he got from Kareem really helped his game alot. Anyways, Javaris Crittenton? Not really a good pick at all. Luke Walton? I will say it is a bit hard to draft good players when all Lakers get are 2nd pick, but guys like Sun Yue, C. Shamb, or Joe Crawford really don’t help them out.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
The Bynum trade was brilliant! Tons of guys get drafted when they arent so good. The key is recognizing potential. Now Bynum is worth more trade value wise than anyone on the clippers except for griffin and MAYBE gordon. Kobe was terrible when we traded for him as a rookie, does that make him a bad pick?
THe marc gasol trade absolutely has something to do with how we drafted. If we drafted some crumb bum, the grizzlies wouldnt have made the trade. But since Marc is pretty good, they felt it was a good enough return to trade Pau. If you dont see the direct link between drafting well with marc and the trade for pau, then i dont know what to say. Its pretty obvious. Javaris Crittenton was also a good player, and thats why memphis wanted him.
As for those LATE 2nd rounders, you’re not gonna get very much value, and its not ike hte Lakers are looking for players to come in and play. If you havent noticed our roster is pretty full, and we have pretty much 0 holes. The fact that we traded a pick we werent even going to let on the court for 3 million dollars and a future 2nd pick of the KNICKS! for nothing is pretty good.
Again, trading.
Btw, before interacting a bit more, I want to add that Memphis has made some trades that completely confuse me/ us. I HEAR that Memphis decided to get Randolph instead of Boozer? Javaris Crittenton, and picks for Pau Gasol? Not really the ideal move for Memphis. Memphis fans stil dread that trade. The Gasol trade was as much as a trade as Randolph, except obviously the Gasol trade was more of a luxury trade.
Lets also not forget that Marc Gasol wasn’t projected to do much in the NBA. He was known as the less atheletic, bigger, worse foot speed, fewer post moves Gasol. Just saying!
As for Crittenton, his current play speaks for itself. I really never saw that much potential in Crittenton, but hey, he’s still young.
Oh, and Bynum wasn’t traded… And true that the key is recognizing potential, but lets not forget that every player in the draft pretty much has potential.
Oh and Kobe’s rookie numbers aren’t exactly too bad. If I remember correctly, he was the 6th man of the Laker squad who was playing behind Eddie Jones and Van Excel? (I’m probably wrong.) Anyways, for 15 mins and posting 8 points per game is actually not bad at all. Let’s also remember that he was coming out of High School so there obviously had to be a bigger transition compared to college.
I still stand by trading. Oh let me also add that Memphis also got Kwame Brown for Pau… w..t..f.. lmao
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
*BTw let me rephrase something:
The Gasol trade was as much as a gift as Randolph, except obviously the Gasol trade was more of a luxury trade.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
lol what im saying, the lakers dont get pau, if they dont have anyone of quality in return….
its just like how boston got garnett. Minnesota was looking for the best deal, and Memphis was looking for the best deal. Marc Gasol despite being seen as less talented than Pau, wasnt seen as being bad. That’s why he pretty much instantly earned a starting spot. And when we traded crittenton, he was considered to be slightly better than farmar.
as for bynum, i never said he was traded. All i said is he has more trade Value, as in we could trade him for some good players. Sure everyone has potential in the draft, but the lakers recognized that Bynum had more potential then most of the guys in the draft. If you didnt know, Bynum also came out of HS so its the same as kobe, obviously its going to take him time to be truly dominate, and he is already starting to show flashes of. The clippers got a first hand look at it when he dropped 40 on them.
So to say that the lakers dont draft well isnt even close to be true, especially coming from a clippers fan.
Boston- Minn. trade was a different scenaro.
Lets see, Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff, Sebastan Telfair, Ryan Gomes, and Gerald Green. Not to menton 2 draft picks and money consideration.
Boston gets: Garnett, Ricky Davis, Waly
It’s not like Minn. was acquiring any draft picked players. They were getting draft picks. The also difference between the deal of Garnett and Pau is that Minny still got some quality players in return in Al Jefferson. They got an expiring contrat ( Theo), a player who was touted to have good atheletism (Gerlad Green), Sebastian (22 at the time), and Gomes.
What did Minny get? Crittenton, Kwame Brown, Marc Gasol, Aaron McKie, and 2 future 1st pick. Who exactly was the main focus of this trade? Any clue? I don’t.
I still stand by my comments that Lakers don’t draft that well or atleast recently. Many of the examples you have given still seem irrelevanto me.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
we’ll have to agree to disagree.
obviously the grizzlies wanted marc gasol, otherwise he wouldnt have been included in the deal since he wasnt under the lakers salary cap.
True that!
atleast we didn’t go out of our way. gg on keeping it formal.
I was never too sure who was the main focus of the Gasol trade. At one point, it could have possibly been Kwame Brown…
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
im pretty sure it hinged on marc and crittenton since both of those guys almost immediately entered their lineup (gasol when he got to the nba).
Kwame was for an expiring contract. The Grizzlies felt they couldnt afford gasol and gasol requested to be traded earlier in the year so they traded him to get something in return
the lakers are a great franchise, but the clippers are the underdog, because of terrible ownership, I like to vote for the underdog, because when the clippers start winning it will a lot more satisfying, I don’t hate the lakers, I just like the clippers a lot more
Max McCarthy
by Swagmeister33 on Aug 5, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
i wouldnt consider a team to be an underdog because they have terrible ownership, I would consider a team that is a small market team to be a real underdog. Or a team plagued by injuries. Or a team that has a bunch of guys that were drafted low. The clippers are none of those. They just have a management that doesn’t know which direction they are going.
I dont know what happened with Elton Brand, but they should have never even let him have the opportunity to be a free-agent regardless of promises. They should have gave him an extension way before his contract ran out.
As for signing Davis? Signing an AARP point guard that doesnt play any D wasnt exactly the smartest move either. They should have saved their money and become major players in the 2010 offseason.The clippers should have no problem getting free agents since LA is one of most favorable cities for NBA players to live in. And they have a great younger core with Griffin, thornton, and gordon. Poorly played Sterling, poorly played.
"Or a team plagued by injuries"
Funny you said that. Are you sure Clippers werent injury plagued? Or how about last season when Brand was hurt for a good amount of time?
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last season when brand wasnt even on the clippers lol?
i’m guessing u mean the season before that. Yea, i will give you that, the clippers do get bitten by the injury bug pretty frequently.
My bad.
I think while I was making that comment, I was living in the 08-09 season, and so last season probably referd to 07-08…
Anyways, Robi S, I’m not sure if adding Davis was a bad decision. Davis was coming off one of his best (if not the best) season with Golden State. The idea of having a 1-2 punch of Davis and Brand sounds great. Not to mention (at the time) Cuttino Mobley, a up and coming star in Thornton, and Kaman 2.0.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
except for the fact that the Warriors play a completely different game than the clippers..
Baron thrives in the 10 second offense, while brand is very much a half court game type of guy. Not to mention the rest of the clippers. Signing Baron was a sign of the clippers of not knowing which kind of style they want to play. With Camby, the have one of the best defensive players in the game. Griffin is also a half court guy, Baron doesnt fit in, and judging from last year, his game is declining rapidly.
Funny
I think of Griffin as an uptempo guy whose athleticism will be similar to Amare Stoudemire where the faster pace allows him to do all of those things in the open court/faster paced game rather than a slow down game that is synonymous with players like Shaq.
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the way I look at is the lakers have always won in la and the clippers have not, I want to root for the underdog and in this situation the clippers are the underdog, the lakers are great with working around kobe, they have made some bad moves, but they have kobe so it is not as bad, thats why im hoping blake griffin becomes a franchise player, so we can finally build around a player rather than always be in a confusing system.
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by Swagmeister33 on Aug 5, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
i hope so too. I love basketball, so when the clips are on fsn i usually will watch their game. It’s always more fun watching playoff teams, rather than perenial lottery teams.
Ahaha,
true, but its always MORE fun when you watch a lottery team competeing in the playoffs! (:
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
hhaa it was fun watching the warriors destroy the mavs, but thats just mostly cuz i hate cuban.
Its been a long time since a lottery team has made it tho, since the west has pretty much been locked with the same 1-9.
This year you guys will have a chance to suprise some people, hopefully you guys get off to a good start so they dont give up early.
I became a Clipper fan around the time we go Dominique Wilkins (early-mid-90s?). I was like 11 years old and hadn’t really followed the NBA before then, but, for some reason, got hooked on watching the Clippers on KCOP. I used to get excited watching the Clippers play hard against teams that were so much better than they were. I remember the game when David Robinson scored like 70 points against us. I believed that Loy Vaught would never miss a shot from his “spot.” I hoped Ike Austin would re-sign with us and taped the end of the game when the Clippers clinched a playoff spot in 1997. My all-time favorite Clippers are Darrick Martin, Earl Boykins and Bo Outlaw. I was actually pretty upset when we didn’t retain Outlaw. Ralph Lawler always seemed to get more excited that usual when screaming “blocked by Outlaw!” And I hate the Lakers. I’ve always hated the Lakers.
nice list of favs
i really liked danny manning, op and kenny norman.
outlaw was a good dude too.
harper was incredible prior to his injury (along with manning).
everyone loves themselves a little michael cage.
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Actually,
because I was never hooked until Q. Richardson era, I can’t exactly say I was a Michael Cage fan…
But thats one person I liked: Q. His little two hand headshake around the head was an awesome taunt to his opponents when he hit those 3’s.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
you gotta at least love the jheri curl
plus he was a prorotypical warrior…
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I always thought that
Corey Maggette was a warrior. The guys always drew fouls, hard or not, and always got back up from that. He never once complained until Dunleavy decided that he wanted him to come off a bench. Even then, Maggette didn’t pull a Marbury..
I just don’t see why people in ClipperNation dislike the guy. It wasn’t his fault that the Clippers didn’t want him back.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
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i always liked muh-getz
we even had a little ‘clutch’ in him.
he of the el matador defense…
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dude maggette sucks. He was a major reason the clippers werent very good, because they overpaid for a guy who didnt really do alot of the stuff youd expect from a guy getting his paycheck. I could be wrong, but that guy never seemed like a winner. I get the same feeling from Boozer and Anthony. They may be good, but they’ll never be nba champs
not true..
he was the clips go to scorer for several years and i dont think anyone considered him overpaid (except when golden state decided to give him 10 mil per year).
he did several things well (for his position):
-ran the court well
-got to the line and was an efficient foul shooter
-for a while he was shooting good range
-he was unafraid to be the guy with ball in his hands at the end of a game even though that resulted in a lot of charging fouls
things he was not so good at:
-man to man defense
-being willing to give up the rock
-he got injured a lot sac’ing his own body for the sake of the team
your hypothesis that maggete sucks/sucked, is therefore negated.
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by Clipochistic on Aug 6, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Overpaid?
“Maggette is the most underpaid and will likely opt-out of the $8.4 million left on his deal. All he did this year was lead the team in scoring with 22.1 points per game and shot a nice 38.4% from downtown. Maggette will certainly receive more money elsewhere, which makes Brand’s decision a little tougher.”
http://www.nbadraft.net/2008_stateofthecap_clippers.html
This guy is talking about Corey Maggette being overpaid, but let’s not forget that more than half the Lakers roster are overpaid.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
Of course that was an article a few years back when Maggette was still
a Clipper.
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
maggets is a decent (to good) player no matter how you cut it.
i assume your question was rhetorical in nature. but the answer is 1.
did pretty well that one trip too shooting over 45% and grabbing 7+ boards per game and made 61 of 67 free throws (while injured). all stuff you want a wing player to be doing.
did i mention he is really good at dunking?
he played minutes at the 4 last year in Golden State, so I would say he is versatile as well (plays 2 thru 4).
i’m not saying the guy is an all star, but let’s not jump to conclusions about his sucking. he solid.
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haha ur right, i did exagerrate when i said he sucked. Let’s just say I personally dont like him very much. He is just one of those players who doesnt give me the vibe of a winner, respectfully true considering he choose to go to the warrriors instead of the spurs.
If were to start my own nba franchise he would not be on my team. Id rather have a lesser SF like pietrus, matt barnes, or young, and use the extra money to get quality elsewhere.
i wouldnt either
it didnt work when the clips experimented with it, but he would be a really good 6th man, backing up the 2/3 and moving to the 4 for ‘small ball’.
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Hm, even though NOONE is going to agree with me
a couple Clippers that I really liked that were one and done were Dan Dickau, Nick Fazekas, and Will Conroy (wtf, who the f is that right?) LOL. Exactly.
I have a knack for players who I don’t give much expectations to but exceed it. Novak clearly accomplished that! (:
Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!
Favs
Favorite Clippers is a great topic. A bit different, though related, to how I became a Clipper fan. If I was a key contributor to this blog I would write a separate post about it and get the ball rolling. Just a humble fan though.
Good list of favorites though.
by citizen zhiv on Aug 5, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
"Ben-JAMMIN!.... Benoit Benjamin with the slaaaaammmm!!!!!!!"
i love ralph lawler. he has kept the mediocre product exciting for decades.
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Lawlers Law coming to you 82 strong since 1978.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Lawlers Law goin in strong since 78......
Yeah, I like that better.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Last one
Lawlers Law: Serving 82 games of helpings if you’re lucky.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I had gotten really into watching NBA basketball during the 2001 play-offs. I remember most of the games. That was the year Vince and the Raptors actually did something by making it to the Conference Semis. Anyway, I’m originally from a town about an hour from LA. Having no teams of our own, obviously, I watched the LA teams. I’ve hated the Lakers ever since, especially Kobe. That was back when everyone droned on and on about his “squeaky clean” image. I hated Kobe when it wasn’t hip to hate Kobe, you know what I mean? I digress though, this about LAC. I was drawn into watching Clipper games. They hardly ever won; it would always seem like they would hang around and then blow it in the last minute. I was hooked though, because they always seemed to try so hard, just never quite make it. They just looked like the total opposite of the Lakers, hard-working guys who just couldn’t catch a break. Till Sam-I-Am that is, damn 2006 was a great year.
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