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I have three hours worth of AYSO soccer practice later this afternoon, followed by 16 hours of coach training this weekend (who knew youth soccer coach was a full-time job?), so if I don't get a post up now, it won't happen for a while.  Of course, there's nothing to talk about, but let's do a quick recap.  A recap of nothing.

Blake Griffin has now been out for three weeks after being diagnosed with a strained shoulder that would require three to four weeks of rest.  I was the one telling everyone to relax when it first happened, but I'll understand if people start getting nervous if the four week mark comes and goes next week and he's still not on the court.  Hopefully the Clippers understand those expectations as well.  After our experience with Chris Kaman last season, the last thing we need is another big man whose healing clock is broken - or even the appearance of it.  At the Panini rookie photo shoot last week, the AP wrote a little about Griffin's injury, but everyone was still downplaying it.

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Speaking of Kaman, it was announced today that Dirk Nowitzki would not be playing for Team Deutschland at Eurobasket 2009 next month.  There has not been, to my knowledge, any official pronouncement concerning Kaman and Germany.  Back in April, the German coach was hoping he'd play but had no commitment.  In July I asked GMMDsr about it, and he said he didn't know but that if he had a choice, Kaman would not play.  Interestingly, it was Mark Cuban who put the kaibash on Dirk's participation.  Does Dirk's absence make it more or less likely that Kaman would play?  I'd say less.  Without another top level talent next to him, it would not seem to make sense.  He'd be trying to carry a team for which he doesn't even have a national affinity.  Has anyone seen anything official on this issue?

Ramon Sessions continues to be in a holding pattern.  Interestingly, it was about the time that Griffin was shut down that the Clippers were reported to be in the lead for Sessions.  The truth is, New York has always been the player's preference for obvious and valid reasons, but it's also clear that neither the Knicks nor the Clippers nor any other team are willing to hand the full MLE for five years to Ramon Sessions.  So we wait.  We saw yet another Sign and Trade story yesterday, AFTER the Clippers used most of their trade exception on Rasual Butler.  The S&T scenario made no sense before, and it makes even less sense now.  The Clippers have their full $5.8M MLE and a $3.4M trade exception - so why would they use the trade exception?  As for a traditional S&T involving a player, that is severely complicated by the fact that Sessions would be a base year compensation contract.  It would necessarily have to involve multiple bodies.  Could it happen?  I suppose so, but at that point it goes into the pot with a million other trades that could happen. 

Sessions would give the Clippers a very impressive 10 man rotation, and I'm not even including Mardy Collins or DeAndre Jordan in the ten.  Whether they can get him at a good price remains to be seen.

As of now, assuming GMMDsr (I'm choosing to pronounce that Gommedser and to pronounce the coach Commedser) sticks with his usual 14 contract roster, there is one spot open.  That spot could go to Sessions - or it could go to Steve Novak, for whom the Clippers still have a Qualifying Offer.  To me, none of the other acquisition much change Novak's role.  Sure, having Butler on the team reduces the need for three point shooting a bit.  But Novak is a complete specialist, and is better than Butler or for that matter almost anyone else in the league at what he does.  As such, certain games and/or certain situations would benefit from having him around - down three with three seconds to go comes to mind.  But he's a luxury item, to have that type of specialist taking up room on the roster.  On a good team, the majority of games he doesn't get off the bench.  But you need him when you need him.  Would GMMDsr carry a 15th contract to have that luxury?  I doubt it.

The 14th spot could of course go to some random, undisclosed player acquired via trade or free agency.  But the Clippers are now three deep at every position on the depth chart (of course Mardy Collins is third string at three positions, but it's nice to have a guy with that kind of versatility) and I'm assuming that the team will see how it plays out with Sessions, and then go into camp with this team without making any other big moves.  Other than Sessions, Iverson, Lee and Robinson, there are only minimum guys left in free agency.  I don't see adding anybody over Novak, even if it might provide a little better depth at the guards.

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If Griffin doesn't heal on time...

Would it be finally time for the Clippers to take a look at getting some new trainers?!

by Newton Pham on Aug 14, 2009 4:22 PM PDT reply actions  

noo..

kidding! Jasen Powell must be doing something wrong because it cannot be a coincidence that the Clippers have had this many injuries over the course of the last few years.

by ChrisS.Oaks on Aug 15, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, at least Blake is Tweeting

that’s a good sign.

I would prefer the Clippers pass on Sessions and bring back Novak.

Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)

by mikey p on Aug 14, 2009 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I second that motion.

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Aug 15, 2009 3:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I third it.

"If a Clippers fan is reading a newspaper in his living room and the ceiling falls on him, he'll just shrug and move to another room." -Bill Simmons

by WestsideBrandon on Aug 15, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

4th it!!

Novak can shoot in clutch situations. Defenders have to guard him.

by sttrumpet on Aug 16, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

i wish the clippers would take that money from the butler trade

and buy out ricky davis already!

The argument last used for keeping him around (that he has an expiring contract which could be used as filler in a trade) doesn’t make nearly as much sense anymore with the other expirings (camby, butler, madsen and smith) as well as 3.4M in Trade Exemption that could all be used if the right trade comes around. right now he’s just taking up a roster spot (if he’s still unhealthy)

by cantthinkofagoodname on Aug 14, 2009 4:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Why not also!

In the process, get Novak and Sessions. Then we would still have 14 players…

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Aug 15, 2009 3:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

As for his injury...

I saw him dunk in that Panini photoshoot vid. Don’t think his shoulder is bothering him that much.

Stuck in limbo.

by PaperClip on Aug 14, 2009 5:59 PM PDT reply actions  

He always said that it didn't hurt that bad

but can’t blame clips for the caution.

In Gordon we trust

by bestclipfan on Aug 14, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Issues

Good to have a new post up. Tough times, making it through the August doldrums.

My own pronunciation is gee-em-em-dee-see-nior and I don’t know about the other one, I’d have to break that one down. but GMMDSr is the guy who has been on the clock and busting his ass all summer. CoachMDSr. I believe that the players just call him “Coach.” Maybe that will work for us.

Novak and the specialty player. We need to give the Nove a little bit more traction, no? Yes, no one does that thing—um, what is it, shooting a basketball?—better. And it’s not just about getting a last shot and spreading the floor. Again, we’re thinking like the damaged, low self-esteem fans that we are. What would an amazing, highly skilled player like Novak’s role be on, say, a good team?

How about when the starters play well and build a nice lead? The opponent brings in their own backup, specialty defender/rebounder with limited/zero offensive skills, hoping to pick up some boards and get some hustle plays. But then “PF” Novak goes onto the floor alongside Camby/Kaman/DJordan, whoever, and the second team, maybe with Al Thornton ready to score points. The ball goes out to Novak a couple, three times and all of a sudden the lead is growing.

The other thing to think about Novak is what D’Antoni, Nelson, Phoenix or any other scoring/shooting/seven seconds-or-less offense might do with him. Get points on the board. Versatility. Play tough defense at times, but be ready to come with the shooters, the offensive onslaught. Gordon and Novak on the floor at the same time are two of the very best shooters in the league.

It’s more than just that end of the quarter heave/shot/get a three. It’s about winning games, about the first team playing well and battling for a lead and then having a diversified offensive/defensive attack coming off the bench.

by citizen zhiv on Aug 14, 2009 10:28 PM PDT reply actions  

i completely agree, zhiv.

Gommedser has done a very good job adding depth to the roster.

Rather than the Clips starting players such as (or cut from the same cloth as) Mardy Collins and Mark Madsen, they have the benefit of starting players and bringing players off of the bench with far superior skills the the aforementioned two.

I hope that i’m not the only member of ClipsNation “bold” enough to say that the Clips can afford Steve “Luxury” Novak. Imo, Ramon Sessions is not a luxury. Rather, he’d just create a minutes problem/crisis. Luxury Novak is the way to go.

Ps. We’ll miss you Fred Jones. If only we could swap you for Ricky Davis… If only …

by falconPUNCH on Aug 14, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

True that...

Fred Jones defintiely deserves that second chance over Ricky Davis. I’d tkae Fred Jones over RIcky anyday. Atleast Fred Jones tries and hustles hard. Ricky is too busy (and always was too busy in his career) trying to pile up his stats.

As for Sessions not being a luxury, its going to be too early to tell. If Sessions really can dish out all those assist as he was able to, he is defintiely going to be a luxury at that price. But since Session’s is completley proven yet, its too hard to say. I will say that Sessions sure does have alot of potential. Sadly a school like Nevada didn’t get much attention or else he could have been selected earlier. Surprisingly, Sessions played along with Nick Fazekas over at Nevada. Now if only we could get Fazekas back. I always enjoyed that guy on the floor.

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Aug 15, 2009 3:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jack, what i'm trying to say about Sessions is that

Telfair can probably play back-up PG just as well as Sessions at a quality level for a much better price. So, no need to waste money on him (i use “waste” lightly).

We can probably get much better value for a good/great player via trading our expiring contracts (Please Lord, Devin Harris!) or in FA next off-season.

by falconPUNCH on Aug 15, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I completely agree

We already have Baron locked up for quite some time, why get another backup right?

But not to randomly point out a player selection, but why did you mention Devin Harris? Seems to me that if we get Devin, we’d have Baron and Devin, both starting calibur point guards. And at this point in Harris’s career, I would assume he would want starting mins after haivng good seasons.

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Aug 15, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jack

I just have this pipe dream of sending some of our very valuable expiring contracts to New Jersey for Devin Harris. I remember hearing rumors that the Nets very looking to dump some serious contracts, probably in hope of James next summer.

Of course, this would lead to the eventual trade of BDiddy. I’m fine with him this year, and i think he’ll be effective. But, if Z-Bo can be moved, then…

by falconPUNCH on Aug 15, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hm...

so Telfair, Rhino, Madsen, Camby, etc etc for Harris? Why not? I like Harris also. I’m just waiting for Baron to see if he can prove to be worth all the money we’re currently giving him.

Btw, how does getting Yi from them sound? I always thought Yi can still redeem himself.

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Aug 15, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Waiting for Baron.

Yes, I believe he can still be very, very effective, however, the question becomes, for how long can he remain effective if he rediscovers BoomDizzle?

I wouldn’t necessarily mind acquiring Yi. But, I dont expect him to be an allstar, like i did when he entered the league. I coveted him on draft day. But, from what i’ve heard, Yi not only lacks on court aggression, but he has be rummored to suffer from a lack of “bball IQ.”

by falconPUNCH on Aug 16, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's also like 35...

Or something like that.

Stuck in limbo.

by PaperClip on Aug 16, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sessions from Nevada?

Played with the Great Fazekas? I didn’t know that.

by citizen zhiv on Aug 15, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lol.

LOL. Really Zhiv’s? The all knowing knows not! (= Jk Zhivs!

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Aug 15, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

you bring up a good point about us being low self esteem fans. we are used to guys like novak being the 1st or 2nd guy off the bench haha.

I mean telfair and butler were STARTERS for teams last year. One of them for a playoff team. And they are going to be our backups (or well butler maybe not). I think its still a little surreal for me. haha.

by hans007 on Aug 15, 2009 4:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks Ben

I’ve been looking for that confirmation.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Aug 17, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Baron Davis

I just suffered a small scale epiphany, regarding Baron and his Clippers. It goes as the following; Baron Davis needs to take command of this team, in every form. This is his team and he can make it appear as such. He has more talent then anyone in the organization. He is now at a point where he needs to will his being throughout this club. Make his commanding presence felt everywhere; from the front office to Donald Sterlings retreat to Michael Dunleavy’s office. From the concession stands and staples staff he must be felt. From the media to the locker room to the court, this is his team. Baron has to regain his throne that he was given to him the moment the former captain left for a Philly cheese steak. Baron is bigger than him even if he had stayed. Griffin and Gordon (G-force ) are definately the very near future, however Baron is the absolute now. Baron is bigger than everyone short of Sterling and even that, with his will, can he appear to be even bigger than him, and with Donald T. Sterlings atrocious reputation, he must. Baron has all the tools, they have not gone anywhere. Blake and Eric will have their time, Baron now has his and with players like Camby, Kaman and Butler he has the immediate staff for the ‘now’. Baron Davis has the opportunity to pave the way for a new frontier setting the tone for Blake and Eric to knock down the wall. The great thing is that the media, the fans and even the owner are rooting for him to do just that.

by Takebb909 on Aug 15, 2009 11:13 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

All true

He just has to do it. He seems focused, committed, aware of his responsibility, aware of the moment.

Should be interesting to see how it plays out.

by citizen zhiv on Aug 15, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

New Trainers/Injuries

I seem to recall they switched trainers about 2 years ago, some injury issues. I think having the new training facilities (a the first year of full use) will lead to fewer injuries and faster recoveries.

by laknights on Aug 15, 2009 5:07 PM PDT reply actions  

pretty sure Jasen Powell is still here.

by andrewexd on Aug 16, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you

Always like to have my silly words at least correct. Don’t know why I never looked it up myself.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Aug 17, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

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