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Further Thoughts on John Lucas

If you haven't done so already, you should read Citizen D.J. Foster's post about new Clippers assistant coach John Lucas over at ClipperBlog.  I'm not quite as enthusiastic as Deej (after all, it's a one year deal so he could be gone by this time next year), but it's a quite a quality coaching coup for the Clippers (hmmm, that's good alliteration).

You should also check out Lisa Dillman's brief article in the LA Times.  Basically, she reports that Dunleavy just decided to ask Lucas to join the staff, and he said yes. 

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When I first saw the rumors, I suspected there was a personal relationship between Lucas and Dunleavy - I knew they were from more or less the same era.  But when I checked, it turned out they were from EXACTLY the same era.  Both were drafted in 1977.  Both played until 1990 (although Dunleavy had effectively retrired in 1985). 

Of course, Dunleavy and Lucas were at opposite ends of the NBA spectrum, at least at the beginning of their careers.  Lucas was the Naismith Award winner and the first overall pick in the draft; Dunleavy was a sixth round pick, drafted 99th overall.  And despite playing for the same franchises frequently (both spent time in Houston, San Antonio and Milwaukee), they were never actually NBA teammates.  But whatever their relationship in the past, Dunleavy and Lucas have kept in touch:

"We talk all the time and we’ve always stayed in touch," Dunleavy said. "It was just one of those situations where I started thinking about guys who were available. Guys that were really good who have a lot of energy.

"So I called him. He said, ‘I wouldn’t do this for a lot of guys. Yeah, I will. For you, I’ll come.’ "

We've been so focused on the Lucas hiring itself, no one has taken a step back to look at the transformation of the coaching staff as a whole.  Three assistant's are gone from last season's staff - Jim Eyen, Neal Meyer and Rory White.  Added this summer are Tony Brown and now Lucas.  In fact, when you consider that Fred Vinson was only recently made a full assistant, Dunleavy has turned over almost his entire staff in a couple of seasons.  The only holdover is long-time Dunleavite Kim Hughes.

There are a couple of patterns emerging, which may or may not be significant.  Neither Eyen nor Meyer played in the league, whereas everyone on the current staff has NBA playing experience.  Perhaps going hand in hand with that, Hughes is considered a 'players' coach, and gets along well with the players, especially Chris Kaman and DeAndre Jordan.  Lucas was also considered a players coach in his head coaching tenure. 

Given that the team at times appeared to be giving something less than maximum effort last season, possibly because the coaching staff had 'lost' them, it certainly seems significant that Dunleavy has undertaken such an extreme makeover, with an emphasis on former players joining the staff.  (A cynic might point out that If Dunleavy himself is the problem, then firing his minions is a smoke screen, but who among us is that cynical?) Will Lucas, a former point guard and high draft pick with an inspiring back story, cultivate a strong relationship with Baron Davis?  It certainly seems possible. 

It's tempting to look at the current staff and assign roles to the assistants.  We know that some of these are more or less true; on others we're just guessing.  Vinson is the shooting coach.  Hughes is the big man coach.  Maybe Brown becomes the defensive coach and Lucas gets the offense and the first assistant's chair.  

Given the success of the Celtics with defensive guru Tom Thibodeau, and for that matter the Lakers when they designated Kurt Rambis their defensive coach, this NFL style specialization seems to be wielding results in the NBA right now. 

In the end, the Clippers have added a high-visibility former NBA head coach to the coaching staff.  It's significant, if only because it indicates a continued seriousness and professionalism in the organization.  How will it work out?  We don't know.  Will Lucas be content as an NBA assistant?  He may or may not want another crack at head coaching in the NBA.  He seemed to be doing pretty well for himself, training NBA players and running his rehab facilities.  But who wouldn't want another chance?  In a HoopsWorld article from May, he talked about how tough it is to get another shot after doing poorly in a couple of places, even if the expectations were very low for those teams: "When you get bad teams, it's hard to get back sometimes."  Maybe this is his first step back.

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Nice

I’d be curious to see you explore the addiction/rehab/mentor issues at some point, but it’s just the first glance.

That side project you mentioned: do a quick outline of the John Lucas story as a film (with PMDSr as a character?) and I’ll pitch it to Baron on Thursday. Maybe that’ll get the relationship off on the right foot, if BD sweetens his arrival with a movie deal.

by citizen zhiv on Sep 19, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Whats

PMDSR?

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Sep 20, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Transition?

More wishful thinking…Dunleavy is bringing in Lucas to replace him when he decides its time to concentrate on being the GM.

by laknights on Sep 19, 2009 2:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know how anyone can dislike this hire...

Bringing in a worldly, experienced ex-head coach as an assistant is impossible to view as a negative. Mike Dunleavy had problems last year. He’s not the kind of guy who’s going to fire himself. But he’s made nothing but good moves this summer, and now he tops it off by bringing in one of the most experienced, respected coaches in the country… a guy who focuses not just on basketball issues, but on the dangerous pitfalls of being a professional athlete. He’s even made his mark coaching tennis… home of perhaps the most dangerously fragile psychic balancing act in all of sport.
A secondary question is, “Will it work?” Will a powerful, thoughtful guy like Lucas chafe and grow unhappy as an assistant under stubborn Coach Dun? Will he find an adequate role alongside Kim Hughes, doing something other than counting minutes and fouls? Don’t know. Hopefully, he’ll find ways to help… whispering wise words of encouragement to both players and MDSr. himself, and finding satisfaction therein.
But overall the hire is something that should create nothing but joy in all of Clipperland. The team needed new assistants, so who does Dunleavy go after? Tim Grgurich and John Lucas. How can anyone gripe about that? It has to be viewed as an overwhelming positive for the organization. Dunleavy could have brought in ANYONE as an assistant without criticism… but he didn’t. He hired a guy who might actually disagree with him, a guy who is strong enough and experienced enough to make a difference. Good for him. Good for the team.

by swamigusto on Sep 20, 2009 8:20 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice work swame

Fired up about Lucas!

I forgot about the Grgurich thing. Good note. And I didn’t know what SP pointed out, that the three assistants had departed.

What do we know about Tony Brown?

Coaching staff seems much more dynamic. It’s also good that there’s continuity with Kim Hughes working with Kaman, DJordan and Camby as Blake Griffin enters the group.

And I’m hoping that John Lucas is just what the doctor ordered for Baron Davis, Telfair, Eric Gordon, Al Thornton, and perhaps even Ricky Davis.

by citizen zhiv on Sep 20, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Lucas can fix Davis

then he deserves a nobel prize for Psychology

In Gordon we trust

by bestclipfan on Sep 20, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would have thought that

fixing Beasley is harder to fix than Davis..

But we can all agree that the person thats most in need of help is Stephon Marbury?

Mike Smith on Eric Gordon: "The Clippers may have found their go to scorer."
On a second note, I want Novak back!

by JackduhSun on Sep 21, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

just let him play

Where do I pick up the prize?

by Jax on Sep 21, 2009 8:41 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Ricky

Lucas coached Ricky two seasons in Cleveland, and Ricky was their leading scorer one of those years.

Of course, those were truly terrible teams.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Sep 21, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting Note

Something primed for follow-up, after training camp.

by citizen zhiv on Sep 21, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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