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Day One of Training Camp - Post Game Report

When they opened up practice, they were running a three-team, five-on-five, winner's outs sort of thing.  If your team scored, you took the ball back the other way at the third team - if you got scored on, you waited on the defensive end until a team came back at you.  So you had to get a stop to get the ball, and as long as you kept scoring, you kept playing.  Fun.

With Blake Griffin resting his 'sore patellar tendon'

  • the first unit consisted of Baron, EJ, Thornton, Camby and Kaman;
  • the second unit was Telfair, Butler, Ricky Davis, Smith and DJ;
  • the third unit was everyone else - Collins, Anthony Roberson, Jerel McNeal, Kareem Rush, Novak, Taj Gray and Skinner.

Star-divide

Perhaps because they had a couple of subs and were a little fresher, the third string actually won the portion we watched, and had the pleasure of watching a bunch of guys with 8 figure guaranteed contracts run lines.  Sweet.

At the conclusion of practice, CMDsr held forth for awhile.  Dena from the Clippers was there with her brand spanking new HD Flip video camera, so his session will no doubt be up on the Clippers You Tube channel by the time I post this.  Coach seemed genuinely pleased - he felt like it was very good first practice, and was particularly positive about how the new guys like Telfair, Butler and Smith were picking up their roles.

Among other statements from the coach:

  • Conditioning is much better this season than last and almost everyone hit their targets for day one, or came very close;
  • Kaman and Gordon are in the best shape of anyone;
  • Coach relayed a comment from John Lucas, who was impressed by Kaman - as is often the case, he just didn't realize how skilled the guy is.

We got a chance to talk to Blake a little also (again, I assume the video will be up on YouTube soon).  He's not worried about the knee - they had a precautionary MRI which revealed no structural damage.  Asked if he was frustrated at the continued wait to get started, he said that the vets impressed on him how long the season is, and how long his career is going to be - he'll be out there soon enough.  BG and MDsr have slightly different plans for the rookie for the rest of the week.  Blake wants to get out there tomorrow.  Coach is talking about having him rest for four or five days.  I don't see that happening.

Other random observations:

  • Lucas went into 'NBA training guru' mode after the practice proper had ended, running all of the threes (Collins, Thornton, Novak, Smith, Butler) through a series of drills.  Shoot from this cone, dribble to this cone, pull up shoot, reverse pivot, post up, that sort of thing.  As we've said before, he looks like a great addition to the staff.
  • I mentioned in a comment that new assistant coach Tony Brown was not at Media Day yesterday.  He's been out of town, and gets back some time today.
  • Former Clipper Sean Rooks was acting as an unofficial assistant coach today. 
  • CMDsr told a couple great stories after practice about his personal history with advanced basketball statistics.  Look for a thorough post from Kevin (it was his question, and I know he's planning a post about it, so I don't want to steal his thunder) on ClipperBlog.

The team has another practice late this afternoon.

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Great report

Wow. It’s pretty amazing to have this kind of detail on training camp.

Really interesting note on Kaman and Gordon being in great shape, and the Lucas comment on Kaman. Lucas and Kaman could be quite a match, with Kim Hughes thrown in.

Notable that BD wasn’t included in the “best shape” category, but somehow it seems that he’s easily included in the “everyone hit their targets for day one” category. Whatever it is, it seems like he’s in a much better place than last year, but perhaps you can comment on his play on the court.

And when Griffin does come back, who goes down to the 3rd team?

by citizen zhiv on Sep 29, 2009 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Baron

I don’t interpret the exclusion of Baron from the ‘best shape’ list as a slight. Look, Baron has never been the “he’s just going to outwork everybody” kind of guy – he trades on buckets full of talent. On the flip side, Kaman is not the guy you expect to stand out. But Kaman is always unexpected. It goes to the Lucas comment as well. The guy is just more/better than people expect. Maybe it’s because he’s white and a little goofy looking that no one seems to realize it, but the guy is an athletic freak. He’s huge without being fat, he’s strong, he’s quick, he’s got the footwork of a dancer. He just doesn’t look the part.

I assume that Smith gets bumped down to third string when BG starts practicing (assuming of course the BG is on the second unit, not on the first unit). I don’t think they’d ask Griffin and Smith to defend Camby and Kaman – that team needs a legitimate big. If BG does indeed graduate to the first unit, then I’m not sure if it’s Smith or DJ who goes down a level. That will be interesting to see.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Sep 29, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

2nd team

Yeah, I would assume that they would spend a day or two, or at least some time, with BG on the second unit, especially if he’s coming back a bit gingerly.

The really intriguing thing about it is that the Kaman-Camby lineup forcing the pairing of BG with his sidekick DJordan. Starting Kaman-Camby makes DJordan the backup center: funny how that works. That would make for some interesting basketball, at least for a day or two. Another thing to look forward to is that we should see a lot of DJordan in summer league. There are a lot of steps that he can take to build potential playing time, sooner rather than later. Playing good ball on the second team with BGriffin, while BG is still down there, is just the first of them.

And just as it gets interesting for Smith and DJ about who goes down to the third group (I assume it’s DJ), it will be an interesting move to see if it’s Camby or Kaman who goes down to the second group.

by citizen zhiv on Sep 29, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baron?

I wonder why Baron isn’t one of the players in best shape.

Don’t we need him to be more than spectacular this season?

C’mon BD!

Clippers 09-10. Prepare for a revolution.

by iankobe on Sep 29, 2009 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

What was said about the playbook

It would be “very good” to hear that they are revising that.

by Jax on Sep 29, 2009 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I used to love that drill

where you are subbing guys in and out like that after a score.

by Michael White on Sep 29, 2009 3:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I never ran that one...

but I don’t think I ever had 15 on a team. My favorite hoops practice game was ‘continuation’ – 3 on 2 break one way, after the rebound a third guy takes the outlet pass from the 2 defenders and they run the break the other way. I was the king of that drill. That and the ‘take a charge drill.’ (Don’t tell my coach, but my buddy Pete and I used to choreograph that one. We’d pair up, and I’d say, “I’ll reverse pivot at the foul line and go back left, take the charge there.” Then he’d tell me what he was going to do. Coach never realized we were doing that – he just thought we were two really hard nosed guys.)

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Sep 29, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha!

nice! I loved the box out drills. It was greating fighting 2 on 1 for the rebounds.

by JackduhSun on Sep 30, 2009 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope

The Clips sign McNeal with that 15th spot, he’s a baller. I saw him a little bit from Marquette and he can shoot, and looks to have potential.

by baronycamby on Sep 29, 2009 6:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Does anyone else love this picture of CMDSr. as much as me? Good ol’ Mikey.

by Gordon for President on Sep 29, 2009 6:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Coach D

I do! I am totally gunning for Coach Dunleavy this season. :)
He was joking and smiling today during his interviews-maybe it’s a fresh new start .

"Success only comes before work inside of a dictionary!"

by Clipperoo on Sep 29, 2009 8:59 PM PDT reply actions  

MDSR has always been pretty good in interviews

it is his inner New Yorker. But I will believe in CMDSR when he shows me something to believe in.

In Gordon we trust

by bestclipfan on Sep 29, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

i loved running that

5-on-5 3 team drill! (the 3-on-2 fast break drill is my fav, but 5-on-5 3 team is a close second). I remember running down the floor after a steal, crossed my opponent up by dribbling it under their legs, then a quick dish to a teammate running the middle. The coach was about to yell at me to pass the ball (thinking I was crossing the guy then going to pull up and shoot) but I was already passing it.

…anyways, if Lucas was drilling the 3’s…how come Ricky isn’t listed there? Isn’t he one of the guys we should may benefit a whole deal with Lucas coming in?

by KidJustin on Sep 30, 2009 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Good question...

I wasn’t taking notes at the time, and I don’t remember seeing Ricky there, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he wasn’t there – I can’t be 100% certain. You’re right, given the drills and who was there, he should have been part of it. I’m pretty sure it was an optional/voluntary drill, after practice and all… so take it for what it’s worth that Ricky choose not to do it (if indeed my memory is correct). Maybe Ricky was icing his knees.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Sep 30, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

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