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Blake Griffin Out for the Season - Neither Curse nor Act of God

Would there have been a good time to get this news?

When the injury was first revealed the day before the season started, the day before a nationally televised game against the Lakers after a 6-2 pre-season, the day before what we all believed was going to be the first day of the rebirth of the franchise, that was undeniably bad timing.  That was "Are you kidding me?  How does this happen?" bad timing. 

And it feels a little like that today as well.  The team had been playing it's best ball of the season, only to have the triple whammy of a Kaman back injury, a Camby stomach virus, and a broken water main scuttle their latest attempt to reach .500.  All of that felt like a pretty heavy burden as of last night.  Of course it pales in comparison to knowing that Griffin is out for the season.

I was out running errands when the news broke.  When I got back to the computer, my Tweetdeck was up and the first thing that caught my eye was this tweet from @deandrejordan:

Praying for my brother @blakegriffin!!! Everything happens for a reason and trust me, he will come back 10x better next season. Love boy!!!

I thought, that's strange.  Nice that DJ is praying for BG to complete his rehab soon, but why today?  Then I read the second sentence, and noticed the hundreds of other messages about Griffin being out for the season.

Not to go too philosophical on you citizens, but let's keep it all in perspective.  A fire alarm sounded in a Memphis Arena just before 7 PM pacific time last night, which seemed to negatively impact the Clippers chances of winning a basketball game.  In my recap, I wondered if it had been an "act of God."  In retrospect, it was a terribly unfortunate use of words, when you consider that about 5 hours earlier, an earthquake had killed tens of thousands of people in Haiti - a fact of which I was unaware at the time in my Clippers-centric universe. 

The Clippers weren't going to win an NBA championship this season.  And assuming that the prognosis continues to be that Blake Griffin will make a full recovery, even with a surgery now necessary, today's announcement doesn't impact how good the Clippers can be next season.  So while our gratification at watching him play basketball will be delayed for 40 additional NBA games or so, it remains "just a game" and we'll just look forward to his debut next year.  We're used to it - we can handle it.

I'll have more later... I'm joining a conference call with MDsr now.

[Note by Steve Perrin, 01/13/10 3:05 PM PST ]  Just got off the call, and I have about 30 minutes before I have to leave for class.  I won't get a chance to post again until after the Hornets game, so I'm going to dash off some quick notes now.

On the call, MDsr explained that Blake had experienced some pain jumping in the pool.  That led to the exam, which led to the surgery recommendation. He has not spoken to Blake yet.

  • As far as the coach knows, this does not change the expectations for a full recovery for Blake.  I'll try to follow up with a medical professional on this question.  It would seem that 'knee surgery' is more detrimental in the long term, in general, than 'knee rehab.'  Of course, there are a million surgical procedures that don't convey long term impact.  How invasive is this surgery?  Will they open the knee, or can they scope it?  I don't know the answers to these questions at this point.  I'll try to find out.
  • With Griffin out for the year, I asked the coach if he intended to add a player (they're at the full 15 currently, but as we've discussed before, they could waive Kareem Rush to open a spot with basically no ramifications).  His reply: "Not so much."  As he said directly after Kareem's injury, they're always on the lookout for opportunities to add players if it make sense, but he doesn't feel an urgency as he feels the roster is still pretty solid.
  • He has not been face to face with the team yet, so he couldn''t speak to how they have taken the news.
  • He was asked how it changed how they will approach the season.  As you would expect, he pointed out that they've played without him until now, and that they'll continue to play without him, so it doesn't change much.  He also said that it's an opportunity for others to continue to grow and contribute in more significant roles (read: DeAndre Jordan).  I agree.
  • In non-Griffin news, someone asked about Kaman and the coach termed him "day to day".

I haven't thought too much about the prospects for the rest of this season yet.  I'll think about that some more this afternoon and tonight.  It would seem to diminish the already slim chances of a win in New Orleans tonight.  Already without Kaman for the game, possibly without Camby, the collective psyche of the team can't possibly be too great right now.  But who knows?  Some times teams react in unexpected ways to this sort of news.  Maybe they'll find a new purpose in overcoming this adversity.

Last thing for now: knee injuries are serious business.  It's no one's fault that instead of healing in the originally estimated 6 weeks, the knee now requires surgery.  We think of this as a 6 week stress fracture that led to a missed season, but it's worse than that of course.  Before it was a 6 week stress fracture, it was thought to be a bone bruise that caused him to miss a pre-season game or two.  Is it incompetence or malfeasance, conspiracy or foul play?  Of course not.  It's just bad luck.  Sometimes the bone doesn't heal and you have to have surgery.  If all goes well, he'll be back 100% next season.  That's the reasonable expectation.  Might it happen differently?  Might this be a problem for his career?  Sure, I suppose it might - but that's not what the experts expect.  Of course, you might get hit by a bus tomorrow, but it's no reason to expect it to happen.

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I just hope that somebody with no connection to the Clippers is doing the surgery.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2010 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

I did

He says “Hi” back

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 13, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Time for Instant Karma

Dear Donald:
Looks like you need an injection of good karma. Following up on Steve’s post, suggest that you grant general admission for home game for fans who bring a can of food/clothing/etc for victims of the Haitian quake.
Hey, it couldn’t hurt….

by laknights on Jan 13, 2010 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

Great idea

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 13, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

How about if we just do it anyway without anything

being given to us other then the collection efforts of the Clippers for making it happen.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Still May Require Clipper Assistance

For drop off points (outside of games or other LA Live area) and delivery to Salvation Army or other disaster assistance groups.

by laknights on Jan 13, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

just saying we could do this without being given free tickets. This Saturdays Game would be a great time to do this, close to sold out crowd, everyone bring something, and the Clippers provide the logistics of collection and dispersal.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

what no!!

Tell Dunleavy we need help with the back-up guards. Wizards are selling look to work a deal for Nick Young or a Gerald Henderson then try to get a PG out of D-League or bring back Mike. The guards are a problem that won’t go away.

by KillaClip on Jan 13, 2010 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

Nick Young would be a good pick up

LA native too!

but would he have trouble with Baron? USC vs. UCLA?

by KidJustin on Jan 13, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Come on

I get the whole “put it in perspective” thing, but acting like this news is nothing big is kinda pushing it. Every time there’s another setback, it means the injury becomes more and more of a concern and there’s an increased likelihood that it will affect his future.

Recovering 100% from injuries, especially knee injuries, is FAR from a given. Just a few weeks ago I was talking about how mid-January was way too optimistic. Knees are tricky and one injury often leads to another.

It’s a bummer that we won’t get to see him this season, but the greater concern, and believe me it’s a very real concern, is how this will affect his future. Griffin was supposed to be the kind of player that could change a franchise. That was obviously the hope. He may or may not be that kind of player, but he certainly won’t be if he can’t stay healthy or recover fully.

The impact of this news isn’t significant for this season. It’s significant for the next 5+ seasons.

by madglove on Jan 13, 2010 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

No, it's potentially significant for the next 5 seasons MG.

Like you stated, knee injury recovery is far from a given. I’ve had experience with 4 operations on my right knee but he doesn’t appear to have a history of knee problems so until we see otherwise, we have to take it that the surgery will be the best solution here.

You can bet one thing. BG as a person will give everything in his rehab in order to get back in the best possible shape. Gotta stay positive man. This is a shocker but the team has improved recently without him and could still have a run at the last playoff spot and give DJ some development time as Camby will likely be off at the end of the season.

We can’t look 5 years down the line yet, that’s all I’m saying.

Bingo! Oh me oh my!

by ClippersUK on Jan 13, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

We need to use or expirng and maybe some future picks

Create a core and finally have a team to build forward with rather than reshuffle every two or three years. I believe if we have to we should give up some future picks to nab players ike Young or Henderson and establish them as Clippers then get a PG who can hold the load while getting another PG prospect.

We need to make a team and keep it and the time may be now to create a franchise.

by KillaClip on Jan 13, 2010 3:12 PM PST reply actions  

interesting that DJ Twitted about his "brother"

while Taylor Griffin (Blake’s real brother) has not Twittered anything about it.

by KidJustin on Jan 13, 2010 3:12 PM PST reply actions  

because his real brother probably called him?

Twitter is lowest on the totem pole of connection.

by Newton Pham on Jan 13, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

below or above Facebook?

please let it be below!*

Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"

by Lawler's Law on Jan 13, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe no one cares to follow Taylor

probably doesn’t have a lot of followers PLUS he’s probably more concerned about it than anyone and calls Blake directly.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Jan 13, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

meh

Says more about Twitter use than fraternal relationships.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 13, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Conference call with MDsr will tell us nothing

He hasn’t been upfront with Clipper Nation since the beginning.

by Newton Pham on Jan 13, 2010 3:14 PM PST reply actions  

Do coach/GM conference calls ever tell us anything?

Let me flip through my tome of athlete platitudes and write the script here…

Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball

by John R on Jan 13, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't see how this has to do with how much we will learn...

Whether other GMs or coaches say anything, does not change the fact that the conference call will tell us nothing more than we already know.

by Newton Pham on Jan 13, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

and it does not

change the fact that MDsr hasn’t been upfront.

by Newton Pham on Jan 13, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Did I dispute that?

Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball

by John R on Jan 13, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

What?

Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball

by John R on Jan 13, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Petition for Injury Exception

…to use in trade.
What exactly are the ramifications of this? Steve?
Anyone?

by laknights on Jan 13, 2010 3:19 PM PST reply actions  

The Clippers could gain an exception

It can be used to acquire one player through trade or FA signing, at 1/2 of Griffin’s salary or about 2.5M

The Clippers already have a trade exception that is worth more than this that they are still sitting on.

The exceptions cannot be combined so its pretty much worthless in a trade.

The net is: it doesn’t matter unless there is some FA out there that you want that can be had for $2.5M that can’t be had for the minimum.

(source as always)

Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball

by John R on Jan 13, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh

But they don’t generally give these out anway.

Except to the Spurs for some reason.

Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball

by John R on Jan 13, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Right - they do give them out

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Jan 13, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Blazers fan

I just heard about this story over on BlazersEdge. I hope Blake makes a full recovery. I’m a huge Oden fan so I understand how you guys feel. I think they’ll both be All-Stars in a few years.

by silkylove99 on Jan 13, 2010 3:47 PM PST reply actions  

Dittos to this.

Bigs get hurt a lot, it goes with the territory. Portland’s #1 overall has actually basically lost 2 of his first 3 years now — but we still appreciate what we will eventually have and you all should, too. It just sucks having to wait…

Condolences on the injury. Hang in there.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Jan 13, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

Been through a lot with the Blazers. I feel for you. Hang in there.
Best to Blake. May we meet him and you in the playoffs some time soon.

"And I hear, 'Hey, knock that off Rook.' Well, stop hitting my dude. Here I come again. Boom. Next thing you know, dudes start getting tired of it. I love it. I love that stuff." Jeff Pendergraph

by blazerfrog on Jan 13, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Next Year

I totally disagree that this has no ramifications for next year. Even if Blake is 100% by training camp, what we’ve lost is a chance to show other players around the league how good our core can be before the big free-agent-palooza this summer.

Before this news, there was hope that we’d challenge for the 8 seed or at least finish above .500, and the big FAs would see that, and would see the nucleus of EJ and Blake and Baron and Kaman, and would see the huge LA media market, and think that they might be the final piece that could turn the Clips into contenders.

Now we’re the same as we’ve always been: at best a big fat question mark, and at worst cursed/doomed franchise forever paying off the karmic debt of one Donald T. Sterling.

by boltsfan21 on Jan 13, 2010 3:58 PM PST reply actions  

Yup

this impacts not only this year but the future. No wonder we won the ping pong battle, it was a Trojan Horse and we are the people of Troy.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Hurts the draft too

I’d be scared as hell to if the team big bad Blake went to got hurt and couldn’t get the injury date right. Plus everyone was in the dark about it.

by KillaClip on Jan 13, 2010 4:18 PM PST reply actions  

This injury must have affected you greatly...

…because I have no idea what you just typed…and I usually understand your posts fine.

by Newton Pham on Jan 13, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

So you're saying...

The next Clippers draft pick will just turn down the money and not play basketball rather than playing for the clippers because Blake Griffin hurt his knee? You wanna think that through a little more?

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 13, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It is possible that this can disinterest players

Never said it was going to happen but it can be a factor for a player. You never seen a player want to dodge a franchise before? He will play for them but he might not be happy about it in the long-run. Best know recent case is Stephen Curry and the Warriors

by KillaClip on Jan 14, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Still walking around in shock

Between knee caps and busted water vanes, I think I have to be dreaming. I need a real insightful Freudian to tell me what it all means.

Here’s one thing for sure: We’re a lot less likely to trade Camby now.

by SilverClip on Jan 13, 2010 5:03 PM PST reply actions  

this should actually raise the odds

The team continues to fail and we have to go into sale mode……AGAIN!!!

by KillaClip on Jan 13, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Fire every medical idiot on the clipper payroll

how do you go from a six week injury to season ending after three months? someone is not doing their job! Blake just wasted three months of recovery if he had his
surgery in late October. A bunch of morons!!! No wonder the Clippers suck for so long.
Sterling is an idiot and his karma keeps biting him in the ass. I so wish he would sell
the Clippers to someone who would do anything to win and not just say he wants to win like loser Sterling!!!

by mrbiff on Jan 13, 2010 7:30 PM PST reply actions  

I can see the future

Griffin will be one of the greatest…. after he gets traded
Clippers will miss the playoffs but get the 13 pick in the NBA draft…this player will lead them to 5 championships and forever change the face of the franchise…also Dunleavy will be fired on April 10, 2011

by JJClipperfan on Jan 13, 2010 9:32 PM PST reply actions  

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