Camby for Steve Blake and Travis Outlaw and Cash - Really?

Blake Griffin in a #23 jersey could be a deal breaker for LeBron.

We’re going to lose a lot of games from here on out – just from the big minus on rebounds alone!

Is whether the plan is to keep Outlaw and/or Blake after this year. Because clearly this year means nothing more than “John Wall Watch”.

So did we make this trade purely to put money in DTS’ pocket and save Dun’s job?

I actually like both Blake and Outlaw, I just think we could have done better (like getting a pick).

I think Blake is a smart PG who runs a team well, works really hard and shoots well from deep. Outlaw is a long and athletic 3 who hits clutch shots and is still young. But those two don’t make this team much better, and we still don’t have max cap space.

Seeing as how we have to renounce rights to both even to free up cap space, the team is in a difficult position here. They either have to renounce both and hope they sign someone with their less than max cap space, or keep both and hope Griffin and the other rook are enough of an improvement.

realistically….they got a decent deal with the 2 expiring contracts and cash. I would have like to have dumped either AT or Bassy as well, but there is still time for that.
How about Kaman, Bassy and At (or the remainder of the trade exception) for either Bosh or Amare? They both work $$ wise.
I would love to see Lebron come to LA, but I think the Clips need to focus on that second level of FA’s this offseason…like Joe Johnson

But the future is now for DJ. Its time for you Mr. Jordan to step into your new role for this team.

Bigolbad

trade your starting PF for a backup PG and a player out for the year you have to do it. Oh yea… and 3 million in cash. I think we should restructure how the deal is described. It should be Marcus Camby for $3 million in unmarked bills, Steve Blake and Travis Outlaw.

- There’s been a lot of talk about Camby’s “Bird rights”… which seem meaningless for a 35 year old player… no one’s signing him for more than a couple of years anyway.
- The cash thrown in the deal is certainly meaningful to the Clippers, but perhaps more significant is the fact that Kevin Pritchard has already said the Blazers are fully on the hook for the incentives attached to Camby’s contract… that could be another serious reason to make this trade and make it now. (I have no idea what those incentive bonuses are, but if they’re attached to minutes and rebounds he’s almost certainly exceeded them) That could save DTS even more millions. So there’s two things we have to remember: first, trading MC might very well have been more difficult than we thought! Second, the cash saved and coming back to the Clips might be more like 4-5M rather than the reported 3. Not meaningful to the fans but very meaningful to the organization. It’s a business, right?
- Finally, why did the Clips waive Ricky Davis (this is also now on the Clips website)? Why not Bobby Brown or even Steve Novak? Isn’t Davis’ expiring deal worth some potential trade value? Does Brown have a future with the Clips? I don’t get it. Saves you no money and potentially robs you of a trade piece.
- Could this be a Bird rights acquisition of Blake and Outlaw? Does MDSr. see them as valuable pieces on the team next year? I think that’s very possible. But, given their playing positions it certainly seems like there might be another trade before Thursday perhaps involving AT or Telfair.

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I’m told Clippers like both Blake and Outlaw and are curious how they play last part of the season

ramonashelburne
  
Clippers could’ve gotten a lot more for Camby, but would’ve had to take salary back for next year, which rules out max FA this summer

ramonashelburne
  
Look for Clippers to continue to be players before Thursday

My only point of discontent is when you trade a “specialist” of sorts then someone else has to pick up the slack. Camby was sort of a rebounding “specialist” – that was kind of his role. So – who picks up the slack? Kaman won’t – he tires out too much during games. DJ won’t – although I like him getting a chance with more minutes at center (it’s funny how he’s always cursing under the basket and the TV microphone picks it up).

I understand the “business” of the trade ($$$), Camby’s age, his breakdown factor, etc. – but rebounding seemed to be an important part of the Clips game (when things were going well). The team is mid-pack in the league in rebounding – that stat ’s probably going to plummet.

Gives us a look at two guys who COULD help next year and spares us from the mardy-bobby two-step at backup pg. It kinda submarines any kind of playoff hopes (lol?)and team chemistry (camby and ricky were well-liked and the veteran heart and soul of this team), but at this point, really, who cares? Neither one of those guys prevented the mess the team is in now and if the players wanted to keep the old vets around, they should have played a little better. Writing was on the wall that once the clips were out of it, camby would be gone. But locker room stuff aside, the deal is “okay”. It didn’t net us anything that rocked our socks off but we may have been overrating marcus’ value all along.

Personally I will miss camby’s hustle and all the little things he did on a nightly basis and I wish him well, but its not really the end of the world either.

DJ and Rhino to play their butts off. Personally I feel they benefited the most out of this trade with the extra playing time so they better make the most out of it.

I already really like his game. He can blocks shots just like Camby and always is battling for the rebounds on both ends. Not to mention when he gets that offensive rebound he’ll give you a finish to remember. This will be good for his development.

Hope Kim get rally the guys tonight. This is also an opportunity for him.

Such as camby for caron butler. Butler is a “nice” player but not great. To me that would have been settling…taking a decent player and also taking us out of the running for any of the stars that will be available. With this deal, we just kinda treaded water and still have “hope” for a big name. And “hope” is something that doesn’t grow on trees following this team, so I’m ok with this.

Maybe it’s me.

All of this talk of upgrades at point and small forward. But those guys won’t be around next year. WILL. NOT.

The Clippers are hoarding cap space. Even if not for LeBron, it appears they will use their space on a free agent.

In order to do that, Blake and Outlaw will be renounced – no Bird right’s. Since neither was likely to re-sign in Portland and both would have been UFA’s that makes the difference to the Clippers… nothing. You could try to sign Blake and Outlaw next summer whether you trade for them or not.

If they swing another trade, today or tomorrow, and eat up the cap space, THEN maybe they can think about re-signing Blake and/or Outlaw, but even then they’re still UFA’s and there’s no guarantee they stay with the Clippers.

After thinking about this trade, I’m still kinda bummed. Just don’t feel like we played our chips right… I supposed it could be worse (it always can be) but I’m disappointed we didn’t at least dump Telfair or Thornton.

In my mind, barring a significant move before Thursday, we are now heading into the FA Bonanza sans the necessary tools. (ie: enough cap space to offer a max deal)

I just can’t imagine that MDsr doesn’t have something else up his sleeve, otherwise this really doesn’t add up for me from a basketball perspective. Obviously the money might be the only real factor we’re dealing with. Sterling is pretty well known for this kind of thing, and maybe the newly neutered Dunleavy is under direct instructions to recoup a portion of his bloated contract to save face…?

I just feel as though Camby was worth more than what we received. As others have mentioned, maybe my emotions are skewed… maybe this was the absolute best offer we had. Either way, I hope we improve our cap situation, or make a move that makes us better NOW. And I hope it happens before it’s too late.

A big ‘thank you’ to Mr. Camby for being a great Clipper while he was here. He really busted his ass for us and earned my utmost respect. Cheers good sir. You will be missed.

And can he play power forward?

Chris Kaman becomes a 20 and 10 guy now that this trade took place,,,,,,, with that in mind,,,, EJ is going to have to learn how to rebound

Both players have had ups and downs. There are those who love and hate either one.

Blake: At his best, a very good three-point shooter and a good decision-maker. Never flashy. Not a creative passer, but almost always makes the right pass without many turnovers. Our coach seemed to really have confidence in him, probably because he tended to just make the right play. This year, his shot was inconsistent, which means he proved his critics right. He’s pretty tough for a smaller guy. There’s a famous picture of him with blood dripping off his head.

Outlaw: Very controversial player with the fans. Has a basic one-dribble move where he gets around and then elevates above anybody any time — he’s known for coming in off the bench and getting bunches of shots in a row. He looks like he’s taking crazy shots (thus, the fan discontentment) but they usually go in. It’s like, “NO, TRAVIS, NO, NO … YAY!” I like him a lot. The negative about his offensive game — he rarely passes, which means he takes the game away from his teammates and he’s predictable. He has a rep for not playing hard defense, but I feel like that’s exaggerated. A TV announcer challenged him to get 10 rebounds in a game, and he started getting 8, 9, and finally 10. He can do it if he’s committed to it. He’s said to be Brandon Roy’s best friend on the team and well-liked generally by teammates.

I think the Blazers got the better of this deal, but if you hold on to Outlaw you might have a really good sixth man in future years.

I wish you all luck and thanks for being so classy towards an outsider. Some of the best fans in the league right here at Clips Nation

Since the Clips have to pay Dunleavy next season not to coach, the 3 mil they get here will go along way toward whatever they pay whoever is going to coach and save DTS from paying twice.