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Atlanta 110 - Clippers 92 - Sliding Into AYSO Mode

The transition always seems to happen eventually.  This season, it has been a little easier than in the past.  Rather than getting infuriated and frustrated with the mounting losses, at some point I can begin to embrace the ragtag bunch of players on the floor without expectations, and just cheer them in their fleeting on court successes, even as they lose game after game.  I call it AYSO mode, where as long as the kids are having fun and trying hard, who cares about the final score?  Hey, who wants a juice box?  Look, DJ's mom brought fruit roll ups! 

It's easier today to be in AYSO mode.  With the successful jettison of Sebastian Telfair and Al Thornton, the Clippers are officially in the great 2010 free agency derby.  So for now, it's all about dreams of mega stars, and it matters little at this point how realistic those dreams are.  So your little butterfly chaser out there tripping over her own feet on the soccer field could get a scholarship someday - stranger things have happened!

Of course, it's a little easier to get into AYSO mode when Baron Davis isn't playing, but that's probably a topic for another day.

Star-divide

It would be pretty tough to expect a win from the Clippers tonight, playing against a 33 win Hawks team while missing three of the top six players from before the All Star break.  In a way though, the roster shuffle looked a little bit like a blessing in disguise tonight.  With so much turn over (Steve Blake starting at point guard despite having never practiced with the team, Bobby Brown backing him up, DeAndre Jordan in heavy rotation minutes, Steve Novak getting significant time), Kim Hughes appeared to simplify things and the team looked a little better, at least at times.  Of course, Hughes was supposed to be simplifying things already as compared to MDsr, but while the overall scheme contained less complexity, he was still changing things on the players and expecting them to execute the changes, which they appeared more or less incapable of doing in the first four games under Hughes.  Tonight, there was just a lot of really simple basketball - pick and roll, pick and pop, some isos, that's about it.  And it worked much better on offense.  At least it did for three quarters.  When the team wasn't turning the ball over.

But the roster turn over has resulted in a bunch of turnovers - a problem that is becoming a real nightmare.  With 22 give aways tonight, the team has now turned the ball over 20 or more times in three of the last five games.  Twenty turnovers is an obscene number - to do it three times in five games is just absurd.

But back to our intrepid soccer players.  I love seeing DeAndre Jordan out there.  See, by getting these minutes now, he'll learn not to touch three pointers that are going in while they're sitting on the rim (sure, he should have known that already, but now he'll know for sure).  And Milph is right about Steve Blake - I love him already.  I think he'll be my favorite Clipper for the 29 games he's with the team.

Of the ten Clippers who played tonight, only three of them are likely to be with the squad next season, but at least they played well.  Chris Kaman scored 21 points on 10 for 17 shooting and also had 10 rebounds.  Sure, he had three turnovers, but that's a major improvement for him over recent games, so at least he's trending in the right direction.  Gordon scored 18 on 13 shots, his trademark efficient game.  Of his seven field goals, three were three pointers, two were impressive dunks and another was a layup.  He needs to look for his shot a little more, and take some of opportunities in the mid-range.  But you have to like a guy who can shoot with range AND also explode to the rim. 

The Hawks opened the fourth quarter with a 14-2 run that determined the game.  But there was an earlier sequence that I want to focus on, just for fun.  With four minutes left in the third, the Clippers cut the lead that had been as high as 16 down to 6.  On the next Hawks possession, Zaza Pachulia scored after taking at least four steps through the lane, an obvious travel that had the usually circumspect Ralph Lawler playing referee.  On the other end, Criag Smith missed an easy one.  Then Joe Johnson lost the ball out of bounds, but the refs incorrectly awarded it to the Hawks, who scored.  Then Kaman got his shot blocked on a play where he thought he was fouled, followed by a call that went against DeAndre Jordan fouling Al Horford.  It was a tough sequence.  The Clippers did a lot of things right, but couldn't catch any breaks and fell back down by 12.  Rasual Butler made back to back threes to close the quarter and cut the lead back to 6, but if they'd gotten just a couple of breaks in the interim, they might easily have been tied going into the fourth.  The Hawks would no doubt have still pulled away at the end, but this is what AYSO is all about.  Wistfully thinking about the bad breaks that kept you from being more competitive - winning isn't a realistic consideration.

So bring on the rest of the season.  I can't wait to see Travis Outlaw and Drew Gooden in Clipper unis, if only for awhile.  They can join the likes of Dominique Wilkins and Ike Austin, legendary Clipper rentals.  I've only got 28 more games of the Steve Blake era and I intend to enjoy them.  Did I mention he's my favorite Clipper?  He has the same first name as me!  Heck, we've even got another AYSO team coming to our playground on Saturday, so we could actually get a win.  If we do, I'll take everyone out for pizza afterwards.

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Amazing what changes in a day

MDSr sure showed me by moving AT and Bassy in one fell swoop, a move I thought nearly impossible. Who knows how it pans out but at least for the next 2 months I can watch these games in ignorant bliss fooling myself into thinking LBJ is on his way to save us.

The only downer is I have to find a different team to cheer for now in the postseason. I had the Cavs pegged simply for the fact that they seemed like the best choice to dethrone the Lakers but I have to change gears now as we now need a flameout (a 2nd round loss to the Celtics would count) to help our cause. I may have to pick the Magic and Nuggets now as my twin trophy wives (always good to have a backup) for the postseason.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Feb 18, 2010 2:08 AM PST reply actions  

Good Call

Now that we’re officially in AYSO mode (here we go again!), another standard feature is picking our favorite playoff teams. And there are some great choices! Everybody knows how much I like the Funk, but the Thunder is pretty rich, and the Camby Blazers could be fun.

Just a new chapter in the good old Clipper calendar.

by citizen zhiv on Feb 18, 2010 7:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Im with you

I’m going for all the injury plagued still fighting hard anti Clippers. Portland and NO come to mind.

by bacek on Feb 18, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Go Blazers :)

or anyone that is playing the FLakers.

" Baron for the win, BINGO!!!! The Clipers Win, The Clippers win!!! "
Ralph Lawler

by bestclipfan on Feb 18, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Some observations from the game

DJ airballed a free throw in the first half (he almost did it again but barely drew the front iron on the next trip to the line). At half time Kaman and I either Blake or Novak came out a little earlier than the rest of the team to shoot some jumpers. DJ came out early to but while Kaman was practicing his free throws, DJ was just flipping some half-hearted lay up attempts. Pretty weird, you’d think he’d want to practice a few. I wonder if he is afraid to practice them since his free throw shooting is pretty embarrassing. Could be a bit of a psychological block, I mean I’m sure he’s aware that he need to improve his free throw shooting but is he afraid to address that weakness head on?

We’re going to have trouble the rest of the year with the long 4s (maybe Outlaw can help here). Josh Smith’s length clearly bothered Rhino. While he is able to out muscle the lither 4’s (like Lamar Odom), he has difficulty creating space against the longer ones (interesting matchup when we go up against Camby later). The more minutes he plays with the starters the more apparent it will be, but Rhino can still eat up the lesser backups in the league.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Feb 18, 2010 2:22 AM PST reply actions  

Steve Blake...wish he could stay around longer

I always liked Blake and even though a co-worker ruined the game for me and told me the score I watched tonight’s game to see how he would do. I was impressed with the way he was able to move the ball without knowing the rest of the guys and the offense. His alleyoop to Jordan was a good sign that things might work out.

Its only to bad that its not worth me falling in love with Blake and Outlaw if they are just gonna be gone soon. I liked Thorton a lot and will miss watching him fly down the paint and put back missed shots for dunks. However, more than Clippers wins; it seems I have grown to be more excited with Clippers trades, signings and drafts in the past few years.

by Mr.Sparkle on Feb 18, 2010 2:24 AM PST reply actions  

I really hope we resign Steve Blake.

He’s a true point guard, will work well with EJ besides him. He reminds me of Eric Snow when he was playing next to Iverson, only a tad better because he can hit 3s and get to the rim once in a while.

by RockyMountain on Feb 18, 2010 6:31 AM PST reply actions  

+1

The kid comes to the basketball, he looks to pass first, he is fast, and he has range. He will play very bwell once he gets to practice with the team.

HVYDRT007-"EJ's value is diminishing Game By Game"

by NBAFAN8 on Feb 18, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Also wish

they had picked up Batum instead of Outlaw. Outlaw can score better, but Batum is a better defender.

by RockyMountain on Feb 18, 2010 6:33 AM PST reply actions  

portland considers batum to be "untouchable"

and thats not just the fans

Awesomeness (ô'səm-nes)
1. n. Something that inspires awe
2. n. Nicolas Batum

by thomasikehara on Feb 18, 2010 7:13 AM PST up reply actions  

consider baron gone

steve blake is a better floor general than baron…thats just the fact…baron has more talent, but his ego will not allow himself to follow a coaches game plan…when dunleavy left the pine it was for 1 purpose and that was to shake it up and he did and i for one am ver happy that he did…expect outlaw and blake to be back next year and davis gone.

by dellago on Feb 18, 2010 6:50 AM PST reply actions  

Nah

Jumping the gun there, dellago. Have to say that it was a nice gesture for BD to take a rest and give the reins wholly over to Steve Blake, making his Clipper debut.

Baron Davis is still the focal point of this team, and he’s still getting paid a whole lot of money. He put in the work in the offseason, and one has to think that if Blake Griffin had been healthy the season would have been very different. I really don’t see BD playing his way into the doghouse, or Kaman either.

BD is a revered figure amongst the players in the NBA. They like his off court savvy and sophistication, and his bonafide Hollywood credentials. BD is going to be a major part of attracting a big free agent.

by citizen zhiv on Feb 18, 2010 7:30 AM PST up reply actions  

It shouldn't matter who is healthy or what the team record is....

Baron gets paid to play the game. His ego and shoot selection does not help this team. Steve Blake will be a better fit if we do get a player like Lebron, Joe Johnson, or Rudy Gay.

HVYDRT007-"EJ's value is diminishing Game By Game"

by NBAFAN8 on Feb 18, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Fans don’t seem to understand the kind of respect that Baron has amongst his peers. Everyone knows what he’s capable of and they love his personality, charisma and connections. Baron is like a movie star/athlete. That’s a rare combo that a lot of players envy. Now I fully understand that fans don’t like that, and I too would prefer it if he was just obsessed with basketball, but I’m just talking about the basketball community.

Players don’t get excited to play with Steve Blake (and I do like Blake). They do get excited to play with Baron.

by madglove on Feb 18, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Baron still has it

He kept us relevant for the first 40 games as were hanging around in the playoff discussion. Obviously the wheels have fallen off in the past month and he’s dogging the year. It might even be a calculated move, if he was playing well he would have perceived value from other teams, thus trade-able, alas his recent play has pretty much him untradeable or we net some contracts just as bad. Would Rip Hamilton or Charlie V really be better? I’d trade Baron in a heart beat from expiring deals but would there be any takers? If the team is winning then Baron will play his ass off, if we add a healthy BG in addition to a star acquisition like LBJ I think we will see a more driven Baron.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Feb 18, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I would hope that Baron is driven to play if we get LBJ

If not, then he should just retire. One thing is for sure, Baron was a huge mistake. He has cost us two seasons, and he might just cost us a big time free agent. Just think if we didn’t sign him we could go after two free agenst next summer!

HVYDRT007-"EJ's value is diminishing Game By Game"

by NBAFAN8 on Feb 18, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha you can’t actually say that baron Davis cost us the last 2 seasons. You mean the la clippers? Clips were bad waaaaaay before him. The other stupid call was him actually costing us a free agent, do you think that lebron is saying jeez I would of loved to come to that awsome team in Los Angeles, but pity barons there

by Sam50 on Feb 18, 2010 1:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Yea Baron isn't good on his own

He isn’t a great self-motivator. He wants to be and he wants to be a leader, but he’s too emotional and gets down when the losses pile up. It’s not a great characteristic, but it is what it is.

Baron needs someone who can pick up the slack on nights when he’s struggling. I think Baron feels like he needs to carry this team too much and that causes him to force it.

But you surround Baron with some real talent, and guys who can help him carry a team, and Baron shines. If this team adds the talent we all expect over the summer, then I doubt we’ll complain too much about Baron next year.

The fans talking about how he won’t share the spotlight and all that have no clue what they’re talking about.

by madglove on Feb 18, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree and Agree with mg

Baron is a huge asset, and he should be, since the Clips are paying him so much. He showed that he can get in shape and still play. He had some great games in the first 40, and he would have been better if the Clippers had been at full strength with Blake Griffin and if Gordon hadn’t missed those early games.

He’s got tons of flaws, but he has veteran savvy and cred and big time players in the league really like him, it seems. I just think that he’s going to be a huge factor in this free agent situation as it develops. He’s not trade fodder. Instead he’s a crucial complementary piece to go along with Griffin, Gordon, Kaman and DJordan. Whoever might come to play with the Clips is going to want to play with BD, will have an opinion about him as a key feature of the team. I suppose there’s some scenario where a big free agent or agents would figure out a deal that would depend on BD getting traded away, but that seems to be a very unlikely scenario.

by citizen zhiv on Feb 18, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Steve made several good points. Maybe I can enjoy

watching this team again. Getting Steve Blake was geat and like dellago, I wish this would mean BD was on his way out. Dunleavy’s got to know signing him was a mistake.

by eastie Rich on Feb 18, 2010 9:27 AM PST reply actions  

Blake's acquisition doesn't signal anything

Baron has 3years/40 million left on his deal. He’s here to stay until his contract gets into the expiring range. I’m sure the front office realizes it was a mistake but part of it was the FElton screwjob we got hit with 2 summers ago. What Blake does provide us is a steady point guard, playing for his next contract who the team can turn to now that it looks like BD is sandbagging it the rest of the year. It probably won’t result in many more wins but at least the games will be somewhat competitive.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Feb 18, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Steve Blake

Steve Blake is a good backup PG. That’s about it. He’s also what the team needs at this point, a floor general, a guy who will run plays and hit the right guys in the right place for the right shot. And he’ll be a good antidote to BDavis, who is going to be up and down over the rest of the season, one would guess.

It’s a good addition, within the substantial limitations at the moment, and should make the Clips more coherent and better and more fun to watch over the next couple of months. But there’s not that much to it, and there’s not going to be any Baron vs. SBlake controversy. It won’t happen.

by citizen zhiv on Feb 18, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Got invited to watch the game

Here’s something that can be fixed: the guards do not play as aggressively as they should, and they can be successful when they are aggressive.

The Hawks were playing Blake and Bobby Brown for the pass the whole game. If Blake and Brown would drive all the way a few times (instead of drive halfway and kick out), it would make the defense play more honestly, and open up the court for them.

Also, EG doesn’t seem to know how good he is. He can be unstoppable, but he needs more of a star mentality – he needs to ask for the ball. This doesn’t mean ball hog or hunt for the ball, but great players demand the ball with their body language and their energy. He seems too passive sometimes on the wing, waiting for the ball to come to him, instead of going out to get it.

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gil Meriken on Feb 18, 2010 9:32 AM PST reply actions  

Totally agree on EJ

Gordon has a ton of talent. We all know how efficient he is on the offensive end and how good of a perimeter defender he is. However, I would like to see a more assertive EJ, especially with the makeup of this roster for the final 29 games. He’s got to be the go to guy, considering that a lot of teams are starting to double Kaman in the post. Maybe he loses some of that efficiency, but he’s clearly got the talent to put up 20 ppg on a consistent basis. That comes with the star mentality, you speak of.

by WestsideBrandon on Feb 18, 2010 10:28 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

From a book called "Stuff Good Players Should Know: Intelligent Basketball from A to Z" by Dick DeVenzio
Players shouldn’t be shy about asking for the ball. This does not mean getting open one time, yelling for the ball, not getting it, then walking around pouting for the next few minutes … You simply get free, crisply shout the player’s name who has the ball and do that again and again. You ask for the ball, you don’t plead for it. Get free, shout crisply and move away again… Running around quietly makes no sense. You do need to make the fact that you are free clear to the people who can throw you the ball…

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gil Meriken on Feb 18, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

it makes sense when you’re on a back door play or when you have an open lane awaiting and a defense that is momentarily unaware, having a player cerebral and aware enough to see it knowing wear that teammate is to get him the ball while the window is open is critical, where as shouting out to a teammate for the ball gives an aware defender that split second needed to adjust to the play, closing any chance of that opportunity.

that is a frequent case were in “being quiet” coupled with an aware playmaker is key.

“crisply” shouting for the ball works best on iso play were you see you have an advantage over the defender and covertness is not truly needed.

by Takebb909 on Feb 18, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes you are right

There are exceptions.

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gil Meriken on Feb 18, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Kaman needs to learn to recognize a double team eraly.

He is allowing the double team to come and then he either travels or loses the ball. Don’t get me wrong, he can score whne he is double teams, but there is always a player open when a double team is sent. Most of the time it is the player on the wing from were the pass came from. If he kicks out that player will have an open look, if thye defense rotates the ball then gos to the top of the key and then to the corner for an open look. The clippers just need to work on these types of things. We saw it only once in last nights game and the Clippers got a three from Butler after Gordon got the ball back and swung the ball.

HVYDRT007-"EJ's value is diminishing Game By Game"

by NBAFAN8 on Feb 18, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

it would be good to see this team really lean on gordon for the remainder of the season.

he needs to be pressured to have a more complete game. ive been monitoring the non-scoring production of the clipper wings for a while and its pretty terrible. gordons statline against altanta is closer to what i would want out of him (minus the TOs of course) on a nightly basis.— he is a terrific scorer though isnt he; and hes so young. what a pick.

"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."

by TheMoon on Feb 18, 2010 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

Gaurds are going to turn the ball over

A player like Gordon that attacks the rim and takes the ball through traffic is going to have turnovers. Just look at players like Wade, Ellis, and Roy they all average more than 2 turnovers a game. Gordon is at 2.2 turnovers a game. Monte Ellis is at 4.2 a game. Guards are going to turn the ball over. I will say this, I would like to see Gordon be a 20, 5, and 5 guy, but there aren’t many of those in the NBA. He is capable of doing this, but the 5 assists is also dependent upon his teammates. In last night’s game Gordon set-up Rhino with more than a couple perfect passes only to have his shot blocked or the ball stolen away.

HVYDRT007-"EJ's value is diminishing Game By Game"

by NBAFAN8 on Feb 18, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

oh im not saying he should have 0 TOs. im just saying last night was a well rounded game for him

and more like what i would like to see from him. except for the 4 TOs. thats too many. and citing monta ellis dodesnt help. there might be a reason why such an injury ravaged team isnt missing him much.

"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."

by TheMoon on Feb 18, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too

I think all Clipper fans would like too see EJ have more 20, 5, and 5 games, but other than Tyreke Evans, who is a point guard. I don’t think any 1st or 2nd year player is posting those numbers. Rose is a 20, 6, and 4 guy, but he is also a point guard. It is simply a very tough task to put those numbers up on a nightly basis. That is unless you are Lebron James :-)

HVYDRT007-"EJ's value is diminishing Game By Game"

by NBAFAN8 on Feb 18, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

rebounding is not asked of EJ

he is asked to leak out and start the fast break. That is why he doesn’t get rebounds. On another note the reason why he doesn’t get a lot of assists is two-fold: 1. On the screen and roll teams like to double him, EJ who is already worried about turning it over picks up his dribble. 2. It’s the same reason why Baron doesn’t average 10 assists per game. We don’t have guys that can finish above the rim so most attempts are well defended off the screen and roll, and we have Kaman fumbling pass after pass.

by bacek on Feb 18, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

when blake griffin plays

The bulk of all the above mentioned problems (passing, energy, motivation etc.) will be absolved. Blake brings much of that. He has a motor that is top of his generation. We won’t be having these same qualms, come end of summer, with or without Lebron.

by Takebb909 on Feb 18, 2010 5:31 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

idk.

i kinda liked ‘ayso mode’
was fun to watch

by Piatkowski fan! on Feb 18, 2010 10:44 PM PST reply actions  

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