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Phoenix 125 - Clippers 112 - A Tale of Two Centers

Going into this game, if you knew that one starting center was going to score 30 points and the other was going to score 12, you'd be pretty happy as a Clippers fan.  Amazingly though, All Star Chris Kaman has still yet to record a 30 point game in his career, while second year pro Robin Lopez bested his own career high by ten.

Since there's no hope for the Clippers to make the playoffs, a high-scoring loss is not the worst thing that could happen.  At least it's entertaining, and no one really expected them to win, especially in Phoenix against the red-hot Suns.  The Clippers shot 48% from the field and also made 12 of 25 threes for 48%, which would be more than enough offense to win most nights.  But as we mentioned in the preview, the Suns approach is just to outscore you, and they certainly did that, shooting 57%. 

Surprisingly, while the Clippers hung around for much of the game, pulling to within 4 points early in the fourth, it's not as if they got great games from their big players.  Eric Gordon had a good night, with 25 points on 14 shots, and Craig Smith and Travis Outlaw were both outstanding off the bench, scoring 18 and 16 respectively.  But Baron Davis was pretty quiet, and Rasual Butler and Drew Gooden were only OK, not great.  Then there was Kaman.

Star-divide

After watching his defensive assignment, Lopez, score 19 points in the first half, Kaman came out in the second half apparently determined... to take the rest of the night off.  On the first possession of the half he thought Lopez fouled him (and honestly, I'm not sure what his beef was), and promptly picked up two technical fouls and an ejection.  Did Bennett Salvatore and Courtney Kirkland have short fuses?  Maybe.  But Kaman clearly was not letting it go, whatever it was he felt happened, and it was a terrible decision.

I doubt that the Clippers could have beaten the Suns with Kaman around in the second half, but it would have been interesting to find out.  Smith was a beast in the first half, but was limited by a sore leg in the second, leaving the Clippers pretty thin in the front court.  Of course, against the Suns you can afford to play a little smaller, which the Clippers did quite a bit, with Outlaw or Butler and the four and Eric Gordon at the three.  But in the end, it was LA's inability to get stops - any stops at all - that was the difference in the game.

Trailing by 10 entering the fourth, the Clippers scored the first six points on two consecutive three point trips (one a three by Butler, the second a Gooden and-one).  With Steve Nash and Amare Stoudemire on the bench resting, it seemed as if maybe the Clippers might make one last run at stealing the game.  But the Suns' supposedly second rate second unit instead pulled away.  Nash never re-entered the game, as Channing Frye led the Suns reserves wih 13 points in the quarter.

For me, two plays in this game captured the essence of the Phoenix approach to basketball.  Early in the first quarter, Eric Gordon stripped Jason Richardson of the ball and the Clippers ran out on a 3 on 1 fast break.  Richardson, who was of course closest to the play, didn't even run back.  Richardson's man Gordon got the uncontested layup - and the Suns inbounded the ball quickly and kicked it ahead to Richardson for the open short corner three.  Score of that sequence: Suns 3 - Clippers 2.  Motto: "We don't play defense, we just outscore you."

The other play came in the fourth.  With eight minutes left and the Clippers down only 5 after making 5 of their first 6 shots of the quarter, Alvin Gentry called timeout.  Out of the timeout, the Suns ran a play to get a straightaway three pointer for Frye - which he drained.  How many teams, with a full shot clock coming out of a time out, draw up a catch and shoot three for a seven footer?  It was a totally unexpected play.  You just don't expect teams to catch and shoot a three from an inbounds pass.  But that's the Suns.

Surprisingly, the Clippers actually outscored the Suns from the arc in the game, shooting 12 for 25 compared to 9 for 19 for Phoenix.  In fact, going into the fourth quarter, the Suns were a mediocre 4 for 12.  But they made 5 for 7 in the fourth, which was a big reason that they pulled away.

(As an aside, when the Clippers play Outlaw as a stretch four, they can put a pretty potent three point attack on the floor.  Particularly if Blake is at the point, a unit of Blake, Gordon, Butler and Outlaw could really stretch the floor and open things up for Chris Kaman.)

I was worried about pick and roll defense going into the game, and it turns out that my worries were justified.  The Suns picked apart the Clippers all night, leading to a 60-46 advantage in the paint.  Almost half of those 60 points came in the form of Lopez' career high 30 (only almost half, because he made 4 free throws).  Lopez is turning into a nice player for Phoenix - but he's not nearly as good as the Clippers made him look as they let him shoot 13 for 16 from the field.  He also grabbed a game-high 12 rebounds, helping Phoenix to a 40 to 34 rebounding advantage. So Lopez joins a long list of little known NBA players who have had career nights against the Clippers in the last few seasons, joining the likes of Beno Udrih and Anthony Morrow and Jonas Jerebko and many others. 

After the game, the Suns announcers asked Lopez what he was going to do to celebrate and he said, "I'm going to kill Bart Simpson."

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by Steve Perrin on Feb 27, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

hahahha no, not sideshow bob

can someone post Robin Lopez saying he was going to kill Bart Simpson.

That is pure comedy.

by John Park Williams on Feb 27, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Kaman had an ugly game

He forced shots (15 in 19 minutes), he played very litle defense on Lopez, and he had no clue what we were running on offense or what he was to do on defense. It was just one of those bad nights that most NBA players have atleast once in their career, haha. Why does it seem like Kaman and Baron have these just about every other week?

On a side note, Outlaw played well and Gordon was back to his normal self.

HVYDRT007-"EJ's value is diminishing Game By Game"

by NBAFAN8 on Feb 26, 2010 10:47 PM PST reply actions  

I like Outlaw

Dude can get his shot, and he can make it.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Feb 26, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

We have not seen him at his best just yet. He has so much more to offer on both offense and defense. I also like him at the stretch four position.

HVYDRT007-"EJ's value is diminishing Game By Game"

by NBAFAN8 on Feb 26, 2010 10:50 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

We should try to sign Outlaw and S Blake

I like Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake, we should sign them to long term deals, is this a possibility?

by Pats fan in CA on Feb 27, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Blazer fan here

I’m one of the guys up north that supported Outlaw…. Over his 6 seasons here he divided the fan base, half of us loved him, the other half demanded a trade every chance they could.

As a fan of him, I love how his game has developed, perhaps not as much as some would like, but regardless he does work on his game. HIs deep shot is just one of those improvements. Before last season Outlaw would have been benched if he had tried a 3, but sometime in the summer he worked on it and it became the most important aspect of his game (within our offensive scheme)

He has been a very humble guy and never complained about coming off the bench, even though he made it clear he wanted to start. The dude is a class act and funny if you put him in front a camera.

I’m really glad you guys are supportive of him. It’ll still probably take a while before his jump shot becomes consistent and then probably only during the fourth quarter
The “Mr. 4th quarter” moniker has a double edged meaning, he would brick every shot until the fourth, then drop a dozen.

Anyway, I’m glad my favorite former Blazer is getting a bit of love. I hope your team can gel and make a run in future seasons.

by Oggbog on Feb 28, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

we really should trade Kaman…maybe get G-wallace for kaman..or even S-Jax…then maybe he can tell Bdiddy to man up like old times in the G-state..

by Fan of the Game on Feb 26, 2010 11:48 PM PST reply actions  

This was an old fashoned Clipper loss...

Robin Lopez, without a semblance of a soft touch, got everything to miraculously careen off the rim and in. Any time Phoenix missed, the ball seemed to traject over the outstretched arm of a Clipper rebounder, into the hands of RoLo, and then back into the basket. Channing Frye (while I acknowledge his shooting prowess this year) comes off the bench and can’t miss. The Clips didn’t play particularly well on the defensive end, but I can’t help but feel they simply came up against some unusual circumstances. Kaman getting ejected seemed a bit harsh, and Baron (who always seems to try to beat Nash at his own game, and fails) had a quiet game.
Brian Skinner for Mayor.

Yay yay.

by KamanHomie on Feb 27, 2010 4:07 AM PST reply actions  

KAMAN SHOULD BE BENCHED THE NEXT GAME

kaman did a “swan dive” and tanked the 2nd half….lopez was abusing him the entire 1st half and kaman was lost…slow on rotations…quick shooting it…and quite frankly wasnt much help, but he need to be in the game and as he left the floor he was smiling…i feel he did it on purpose and wasnt a heat of the moment thing…he needs to apologize to his teamates, and the fans…totally unacceptable…what kind of competitor gets himself tossed in the 1st 30 seconds of the 2nd half…ive never seen it and have never heard of it….if deandre can quickly get himself up to speed as a defender/shot blocker, im all for trading kaman sorry butt out…let learn what elton brand learned when he left.

by dellago on Feb 27, 2010 8:04 AM PST reply actions  

ONE MORE THING

watching baron davis(who i dont like as a player) never moves without the ball….he doesnt do anything when he doesnt have the ball…he doesnt make cuts…he just stands around on the outside…ive never seen him get a pass as he cuts to the glass….he can go with kaman.

by dellago on Feb 27, 2010 8:07 AM PST reply actions  

How did Baron have a quiet game?

13 pts 8 ast 6 rebounds and 1 turnover is a very good line. This is basically what Jason Kidd does regularly nowadays and no one complains about him.

by bacek on Feb 27, 2010 8:22 AM PST reply actions  

Kidd is 6 years older

and makes a significanlty better amount of shots (both FG & 3FG). He also has a better assist-turnover ratio. Just stats and may not tell the whole story but BD clearly hasn’t lived to his potential here as a Clipper. We’ve seen a few games from him that were amazing and you always hear fans or Milph say that’s the BD the Clippers signed……but how often do those games happen. We’re not paying him this money for mediocre play. Hell, as others have pointed out, you could throw in Blake and the Clippers don’t lose a damn thing other than some points.

by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 27, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

but his numbers

are on par with his career. For some reason everyone has these expectations of a different player that he is. Yes, he is overpaid, but is he really that much different from before…well, he can’t dunk as much as he used to but that’s pretty much it.

by bacek on Feb 27, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

There is a huge difference from Baron’s numbers as a Warrior and his first two years as a Clipper.

Last two years as a Warriors:

20.1 ppg, 8.1 assists, 4.4 rebs, 43% field goal, and 30% 3 pt.
21.8 ppg, 7.7 assists, 4.7 rebs, 43% field goal, and 33% 3 pt.

First two years as a Clipper:

14.9 ppg, 7.7 assists, 3.7 rebs, 37% field goal, and 30% 3 pt.
15.4 ppg, 7.8 assists, 3.5 rebs, 39% field goal, and 28% 3 pt.

Numbers are down all across the board. The only exception would be his free throw shooting (I did not post).

HVYDRT007-"EJ's value is diminishing Game By Game"

by NBAFAN8 on Feb 27, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Well...

Much of it has to do with the system he played in with the Warriors. The Warriors were one of the highest scoring team in the league when he was there. Its also important to note that the Warriors have taken a couple of steps back since they essentially swapped Baron for Maggette.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 2:06 AM PST up reply actions  

If that is the case, then how do you explain Stephen Jackson's numbers?

Jackson is averaging 21.9 as a Bobcat.

As a Warrior he averaged, 16.8, 19.9, and 20.7 ppg.

Jackson is also shooting 43% from the floor and 33% from 3pt.

Jack is also older than Baron. Just face it, Baron Davis will never live up to the contract the Clippers gave him.

Btw, I know that the Warriors have a more free offense, but even if baron was still on the Warriors, he would not even be putting up the numbers that rookie point guard Stephen Curry is putting up this year.

HVYDRT007-"EJ's value is diminishing Game By Game"

by NBAFAN8 on Feb 28, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

What the hell are you talking about

Baron is putting up similar or better stats than Curry on the Clips right now in less minutes aside from FG%.

Easy to explain SJax production, he went from a team where he was possibly the 3rd option (behind Monta, maybe behind Maggs) to a team where he is the 1st option and he’s playing with true PGs in Charlotte versus a ballhog like Ellis. He was obviously dogging it earlier in the year as he wanted a trade.

I don’t think Baron will go back to his heyday with the Warriors, he was in his athletic prime those years (26-28) but he should still be a solid player. He’s more or less back to the pre-Warrior Baron and yea, we definitely are overpaying him (he should be a 7-9 million a year player now).

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Please...

Don’t ever associate Kaman with all star in the same sentence.

by Pats fan in CA on Feb 27, 2010 1:45 PM PST reply actions  

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