Clippers at Sacramento - Open Thread
by Steve Perrin on Feb 28, 2010 5:45 PM PST
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Los Angeles Clippers at Sacramento Kings, Feb 28, 2010 6:00 PM PST
| 2009/2010 NBA Regular Season | ||
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| 24-34 | 19-39 |
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| Arco Arena |
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| February 28th, 2010, 6:00 PM | ||
| FSN Prime Ticket, 980 AM |
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| Probable starters: | ||
| Baron Davis | PG | Tyreke Evans |
| Eric Gordon | SG | Beno Udrih |
| Rasual Butler |
SF | Omri Casspi |
| Drew Gooden |
PF | Carl Landry |
| Chris Kaman |
C | Spencer Hawes |
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First!
9:21 LAC - Offensive foul on C. Smith
by LancasterGordon4Eva on Feb 28, 2010 5:55 PM PST reply actions
i came just on here only to see if biggie was FIRST lol
"Put the icing on the cake ladies and gentlemen" - Ralph Lawler vs. The Grizzlies
by In GrIfFin We TrUsT on Feb 28, 2010 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
haha sorry!
9:21 LAC - Offensive foul on C. Smith
by LancasterGordon4Eva on Feb 28, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
Kaman found a new way to dodge playing in PHX, how long before he does it again?
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's doing down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Feb 28, 2010 6:05 PM PST reply actions
What's with the Kaman hate lately... really
He’s our best player and he had a string of double doubles until last game. Some of you have memories worse than the guy from Memento.
FA in 2010.
Making some of you eat those words
6 pts 3 rebounds out of the gate. That is DJ’s average production for the entire game.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
Beautiful shot from Kaman
Nice hook against 3 guys
FA in 2010.
I love Baron's handles. He makes some eye-popping moves.
If only he could shoot :(.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's doing down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Feb 28, 2010 6:18 PM PST reply actions
man, i got a mean headache
"Put the icing on the cake ladies and gentlemen" - Ralph Lawler vs. The Grizzlies
by In GrIfFin We TrUsT on Feb 28, 2010 6:22 PM PST reply actions
DJ in the wings.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's doing down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Feb 28, 2010 6:25 PM PST reply actions
DJ had the effirt just not the finish
Gordon slowing down some
Blake assist count stands at one.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's doing down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Feb 28, 2010 6:29 PM PST reply actions
Baron
already has 4 rebounds and 3 assist. 0-4 shooting though. Still… he could get a triple double tonight.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
Damn Arco looks dead
lower bowl is super empty. Bad turnout for a Sunday evening game too.
FA in 2010.
what ive noticed about Baron and Blake is
Baron seems to limit EJ’s touches when Blake makes it a duty to get him the ball
Baron dosent even look for out wing players
either looks for himself or the bigs…he should never take more than 7 shots a game
God damn glass.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's doing down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Feb 28, 2010 6:33 PM PST reply actions
Ball don't lie.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's doing down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Feb 28, 2010 6:37 PM PST reply actions
OMG, i just got deja vu
"Put the icing on the cake ladies and gentlemen" - Ralph Lawler vs. The Grizzlies
by In GrIfFin We TrUsT on Feb 28, 2010 6:38 PM PST reply actions
Gonna claw back or is this like NJN, MIN, and GSW?
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's doing down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Feb 28, 2010 6:38 PM PST reply actions
Well this looks like a game is going to be Baron and Kaman or bust
Everyone else looks uninterested and slow
holy hell what happened
step away for a few minutes and shit is out of control.
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 6:39 PM PST reply actions
it's the clippers..... :-)
"Put the icing on the cake ladies and gentlemen" - Ralph Lawler vs. The Grizzlies
by In GrIfFin We TrUsT on Feb 28, 2010 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
Its the Clippers
where blowouts happen
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
wat a boring game...... ;-/
"Put the icing on the cake ladies and gentlemen" - Ralph Lawler vs. The Grizzlies
by In GrIfFin We TrUsT on Feb 28, 2010 6:44 PM PST reply actions
Kings defense looks amazing
Outlaw has to be the scorer
Umm
Not sure if it is their D, more like our offense looks UNamazing.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
I know it's partly us
but that defense on Blake a second ago was quite amazing. Blake couldn’t go anywhere. And its been like that for a while now
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
That's the Clippers effect
we make your players look like studs.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
New term
Clippers Goggles: Years of watching bad basketball have effected your basketball judgment. What are usually just average plays or players are suddenly more attractive.
FA in 2010.
EJ needs to step it up
1-4 shooting… no assists or rebounds. He needs to stop disappearing during games.
FA in 2010.
Nice 3 by EJ
prove me wrong sucka!
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
Man Kaman getting owned on defense by Lopez and now Hawes
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 7:00 PM PST reply actions
On that replay they just showed
Chris just standing their guarding Hawes. Not even trying out there on D.
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
terrible spacing lol
Gordon brought an extra defender to Baron on the fastbreak
Hawes going for career night lol
30 points is his career high
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 7:03 PM PST reply actions
Damn Ralph still dosent realize
its Spencer…Was Steve his dad??lol
Chris asleep out there lol
Everyone is…..
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 7:07 PM PST reply actions
EJ was wide open there
and Gooden through it away. EJ needs to be screaming for the ball when he’s that open.
FA in 2010.
He's been solid
You can’t expect bigs to pass the ball in traffic. He should try to put the ball back on the offensive boards instead of looking to pass.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
they just swarmed him that last play
3 guys all over him. Nothing he could do.
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
So Maybe that's why Eric Dampier got the start over him in Dallas.
I was always wondering why.
by RockyMountain on Feb 28, 2010 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
Gooden is a solid player
he’s a starting PF in the league for borderline playoff teams. The Mavs needed bigger guys though, Gooden isn’t big enough to play center against the top guys.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
I honestly dont think we can be a winning team
with both Baron and Kaman on this team….would luv to see one of them go
BD before Chris everytime
Kaman is solid just has those nights. Season means nothing and its being reflected in his game. Remember when we were hovering around .500 for the first couple of months he was damn near perfect every single game.
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
I'll pack for Kaman
His attitude and effort after all these years as a Clippers be good thing to get rid ogf him and get a physical shot blocking big to complement Griffin.
Name a big
we could realistic get that would be a improvement over him. Yea I’d love Dwight Howard but its not going to happen.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
I'd take a Kendrick Perkins right now
We don’t need Kaman or a Center that needs to score to be productive we need someone to get down low and been a presence espcially when Blake gets back.
Ok again
you think we can get Perkins? Throw out options instead of just wishful thinking.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
Don't think we can packagea deal for Kaman
The hype is a high sell right now you could convince some team to take him. Espcially now with the Celtics falling off and neediing to retool if things go down hill. Ainge said if the Celtics get bounced early big changes will happen.
I'd go easy on Blake
who the hell knows what he’s going to contribute….just saying. He hasn’t played ONE game. You have no idea how he’s going to mesh and play with these guys. Could be perfect because he can clog the paint while Kaman hovers around that 15 foot shot he loves.
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
That is the problem he shots the jumper way to often
I agree we don’t know how Blake will respond in the league but we know Kaman isn’t taking us anywhere with his play
but he's definitely a very solid player when he's not dogging it (again, was playing amazing leading up to the all star break)
Adding Griffin to the mix is going to make this team better. I know a lot of us are hoping, me included, that he’s the player that gets us those wins to put us at, and over, .500. I wouldn’t move Chris unless we’re back here again next season. Not a lot of bigs out there doing what he’s been doing. We’d be losing a lot and we’ve seen what its like when Chris was out those couple of games.
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
Kaman has all 7 of our points this half
Still think he’s the PROBLEM?
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
never said he was
unless that’s directed at the post above mine
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
Like the announcers said
Baron is creating everything for Kaman. Yiu want to go deeper into it the Second player of the Week award Chris Kaman won was during the week fed him every easy look in the book. I remember it aw to well Baron was drawing defenders well away from Kaman so he could get easy looks
saw the same thing when Eric Gordon was out and Kaman was in
We need a big post on how that run with Kaman out has been looked into way to deep. We are bad no matter who is in or out we just lose by more points if a starter is out
I’d give Kaman another season with Blake but I only ansewered the question if we had to get rid of Baron or Kaman who would you pick and I choose and always will Chris Kaman.
To ther other point Kaman was horrible going into All-Star weekend and was playing poorly with padded stats after he came back from the injury.
Again we don’t NEED a Center that does what Kaman does.
Hmm let me get this right
a team that has a trouble scoring, with no other inside scoring threat needs to give up the top scoring center in the league.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
that was pretty dumb top scoring Center yet the team has problems scoring
What is your point then? Also Kaman is barley hovering over .500 most of the season currently 492. He’s not even the top coring Center in the league anymore Lee is and Kaman is tied with Brook Lopez
The point is
How does that help the team. It’s not as if we have a surplus of scoring. My bad, he’s only 2nd in the league in scoring now, even though Lee is really a PF playing C for the Knicks since they don’t bother playing defense.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
Then so is Brook Lopez
Yes I know their record but ours isn’t pretty either. We do have a surplus of scoring just isn’t team oriented scoring we don’t pass the ball enough or have the offensive scheme for it to mean anything. With Griffin we probably will need to limit the scorers on the court because Baron and EJ will get theres and the SF will most likely be a scorer with Blake and Kaman down low.
Best thing for the team may be toget a player who is a hustle player defender down low to cover for Blake
You have the roles reversed
Early on anyways its pretty obvious that Blake is going to be the hustle player you are talking about. I think they will work together well.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
Some of you guys are seriously being stupid
In all seriousness, he’s a good center. He’s flawed but we could do much worse than Chris Kaman at the center position. Do you realize how BAD we are without him? 0-6 this year with a average loss of 16 points.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
So sick of that damn stat we lost games without Gordon and people were crying for him
The players said themselves they aren’t the same without Gordon. What a stupid comment to add as well You know what we are even without the 0-6… WE ARE STILL A LOSING TEAM!
Different levels of losing
Without Kaman we are a 19 win type team (see last year). At least we have some chance of fielding a semi competent team with him out there.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
24 wins so far
Team sucked so bad this year we actually got Dunleavy to quit. lol Dunleavy was watching the damn Hangover
Compared to last year
this year has been far more successful. Last year it was over before New Years
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
might be a good game to limit Gooden this isn't his night
Thi is killing anything we had on the 3 game streak. With the Wizrds winning more consistently we will only move up the lotto.
Ummm he's been our best player tonight
8 pts 4 rebounds, 3-4 shooting. The turnovers suck but 2 of them came off offensive rebounds so they are kind of a wash. I think our guards are getting killed tonight.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
H had a turnover when he had a clear pass out to a open player
He is playing slow it may be due to the back to back but regardless of the point he is not one tonight.
He seems to care more than the other guys
his Dad is even in town from Oakland for the game. I’m more concerned with the lack of energy from EJ, DJ and Steve Blake tonight.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
Never said he didn't care said he was having a bad night
He is hustling but nothing is working and he is getting out played andboth ends. Sometimes you sit a player because you have to not becasue you want to.
10 points 6 rebounds
Are we watching the same game? The problem is clearly the inability of our guards of keeping Tyreke Evans out of the lane. Also not seeing EJ do much except wait for pass to launch a jumper.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
Do you honestly not see the 4 fouls and 4 TO's
Come on man damn be serious
Whats wrong with fouls
Sometimes that shows effort, especially from the bigs. The turnovers were off offensive rebounds and he couldn’t find anyone to pass to. It’s not as if he dribbled it off his foot.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
Give him the And 1 it was neeeded
But overall his game ha been toned some and pretty sloppy didn’t want him to be glued to the bench just limited on a off night. Gordon has been a damn ghost this game he needs to kick it up
I think our guys forget
that they aren’t that good and need to play HARD all 48 minutes to compete. The top level teams can slack off and still win ugly. We need to play hard to ever have a shot of winning, even against bad teams.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
ROFL
hotelplanner.com commercial was so bad it was hilarious.
FA in 2010.
yeah it's such a terrible commercial
makes you question their service lol.
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
It worked though
we remembered how bad it was… next time I make travel arrangements I might check them out! I think the Priceline ones are awful with William Shatner but it does make me remember them.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
I like the 5 hour energy drink
i know a dude who looks like the fat dude with glasses after the belch,,,,,,,,, chick repellent!
chick repellent! hahahahaha i love the priceline commercials......"saving money on airlines is no laughing matter" "muwahahahaha" priceless
"Put the icing on the cake ladies and gentlemen" - Ralph Lawler vs. The Grizzlies
by In GrIfFin We TrUsT on Feb 28, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
to be honest
I think they just don’t give a sh** thats why the Clippers have always been a bad team
They do
most of these guys are playing for millions on their next contracts. Butler, Rhino, Outlaw, Blake and Gooden stand to make or lose themselves millions these next 6 weeks. Bobby Brown, Steve Novak and Mardy Collins could be playing for their NBA careers… they could be in Europe next season if they dog it.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
DJ has played some
6 minutes and hasn’t done anything noteworthy. He blew a wide open dunk and thats pretty much the only contribution he had so far.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
I think chemsitry is a huge issue with this team
we just dont have it…
how come we have players who dont seem like they wanna play but once they leave, they flourish..... matt barnes? eddie house? andre miller?
"Put the icing on the cake ladies and gentlemen" - Ralph Lawler vs. The Grizzlies
by In GrIfFin We TrUsT on Feb 28, 2010 7:29 PM PST reply actions
Rhino out for the rest of the game
Looks like we’ll see a lot of DJ this half.
FA in 2010.
Double double for Kaman
in the 3rd quarter.
FA in 2010.
I think so
We need a big play… wish EJ made that 3
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
2nd one was flat
and ugly. At least it went in.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
wouldn't mind having him back
Him and Blake are really nice to have coming off the bench.
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
Depends on the price
but yea, he could be a nice SF with the rest of the starters. The formula hasn’t change though, we need a superstar player. Hopefully BG is the answer or EJ steps up his game next year.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
Haha
after we give him some praise, he airballs a wide open 3. It must be the Clippers Goggles.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
I hope we win.
Of the 3 new signings, Blake has to be the top priority, followed by Outlaw and then Gooden. We have Griffin, so Gooden is expendable. If we sign Bron bron, outlaw is expendable. Blake however, is needed as starting/backup PG.
Outlaw is more of a need
We definitely need a upgrade at SF. Outlaw could do the job and he’s young. Blake’s a solid PG but more of a luxury seeing how he’ll play only 20 mpg while our next SF will get 30+ minutes per game.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
LETS GO CLIPPERS
9:21 LAC - Offensive foul on C. Smith
by LancasterGordon4Eva on Feb 28, 2010 8:03 PM PST reply actions
ohhhhh bad shot by Travis
Man they just keep making shots.
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 8:05 PM PST reply actions
Great D by Gooden
helped force the airball and subsequent 24 sec violation
FA in 2010.
I think hawes knock the ball off. That's why it looked like it was double dribble
by RockyMountain on Feb 28, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
oh maybe.
that’s what I thought but everyone was screaming it, including Ralph.
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
See Chuck Baron feeding Kaman the easiest of looks
Only difference now and then he can’t make the easy one anymore
Thats because he's not a high flyer
if we could combine DJ’s dunking with Kaman’s skill then we’d have a all-time great. Unfortunately Kaman isn’t that explosive and relies on stupid layups instead.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
he doesn't have to be a high flyer
He’ not missing layups in traffic. Chris Kaman is missing point blank shots around the rim and I put this on my life 80% of the time there is no defender around him if there is there isn’t one who can contest his dunk. I’m not asking him to leap across the floor just jump straight up and dunk
Me too
look how hard Gooden is playing.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
wouldn't brag on it combine the Kings choking and not making the Clippers pay for the mental errors
Gooden has had some major brain farts in the quarter
Dude
he only has a 25 inch vertical. He probably has a hard time jumping over a phone book.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
Dude Kaman can do a freakin straight up dunk
He has done them when he is motivated whenever that may be
wow... the refs should be EMBARRASSED
IT COULD HAPPEN
by BigBangRobbDawgg on Feb 28, 2010 8:17 PM PST reply actions
Nice move Kaman
I had 3 small heart attacks there but he made it work.
FA in 2010.
Kind of need one in between
I like when Baron posts up or drives to the basket. Not a fan of him shooting 3s or fadeaways though
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
yep
4-14
9:21 LAC - Offensive foul on C. Smith
by LancasterGordon4Eva on Feb 28, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
Gooden had the open off the glass
he over thought it
if not for his turnovers
it would be a perfect game for him. Still it’s solid and he’s working hard out there.
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
ive been switching the TV on the game ...
but it seems like every Clipper TO ive seen turns into a bucket for the Kings
IT COULD HAPPEN
by BigBangRobbDawgg on Feb 28, 2010 8:23 PM PST reply actions
Kaman you're a bonehead
IT COULD HAPPEN
by BigBangRobbDawgg on Feb 28, 2010 8:28 PM PST reply actions
dont blame him on that one
good play by Udoka. How come it isn’t a over and back though.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
How come that isn't
a over and back?
FA in 2010.
god damn it Baron
9:21 LAC - Offensive foul on C. Smith
by LancasterGordon4Eva on Feb 28, 2010 8:29 PM PST reply actions
4-15 is just pathetic
9:21 LAC - Offensive foul on C. Smith
by LancasterGordon4Eva on Feb 28, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry but Baron is done
we need to cut ties with him ASAP
Yeah
at least we can play 4 quarters now
9:21 LAC - Offensive foul on C. Smith
by LancasterGordon4Eva on Feb 28, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
get ready for another BD brick
IT COULD HAPPEN
by BigBangRobbDawgg on Feb 28, 2010 8:31 PM PST reply actions
i was right and yet im still happy with the result ha
IT COULD HAPPEN
by BigBangRobbDawgg on Feb 28, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
It was a lot of things
but baron’s 4-16 25% shooting didn’t help
9:21 LAC - Offensive foul on C. Smith
by LancasterGordon4Eva on Feb 28, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
You can't blame a single play for the outcome of a game
Actually we deserve to lose this one, we trailed the entire game.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
Yep
We really paid for that messy first quarter.
9:21 LAC - Offensive foul on C. Smith
by LancasterGordon4Eva on Feb 28, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty sure we can blame the TO created by Kaman for the loss
Hell Milph blamed the loss on the play and they are payed to kiss @$$ lol
You are obviously blinded
by your prejudice towards Kaman. We trailed the entire game, to place blame at the guy who had a decent game is completely irrational. Baron played a far worse game and the following possession after the turnover was horrible (27 ft heave? Really?)
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
how am I prejudice against Kaman I seen the Mofo play here since he came into the league
The post crew said that play was the key to the game when the Clippers had momentum. You can dismiss what I saw and put do you think Ralph and Mike are hating on Kaman too?
baron at least can make a damn play
When has Kaman made plays to wins us game when the game is tight
Baron with the putback was at least redemption
Kaman has done nothing since. Like I put before I’m packing the bags for Kaman I’m buying his damn ticket too.
IDK they both hurt this team pretty bad
but Baron just dosent have it anymore
Our bigs had 11 turnovers and 0 assists
Gooden 5 TOs, Kamen and DJ 3 each, and 0 assists. Black holes on offense. Unable to make a play for others on the court.
I saw Kaman make a direct pass to Butler and Outlaw
at least once for wide open shots and they bricked both.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
Gooden 0.6 per game and Kaman 1.8
You’re correct. I’m not saying Kaman or Gooden never pass. They’re just not very good passing from the post. Gooden is averaging 0.6 assists per game this year and Kaman only 1.8 which is actually up from his career average of 1.3.
2 Ast is solid for a center
unless the NBA moves to hockey type assists then centers get short changed on assists. Aside from a kickout to a 3 point shooter or a cutter they won’t get any assists. Bigs assisting to other bigs is pretty rare, aside from Gasol and KG no one else in the league has bigs that can pass in traffic.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Well I'm sure Timmy can too
but he hasn’t played with another solid big since David Robinson
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Kaman is #2 in the league among centers for most turnovers
Only Dwight Howard has more turnovers per game at 3.5 per game. Kaman is 3.2.
Comes from being a scorer
If you run plays for the guy he’s going to turn it over. Guys like Biedrins etc don’t turn it over since all their points come off broken plays or offensive rebounds.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
and disinterested
and these guys had a day off since playing in Phoenix. EJ is young, he should be getting stronger as the season winds down.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
Clipperchuck
He was averaging 20ppg in his last five games. That includes a 25 point game and a 30 point game vs. these same Kings. He is getting stronger, but this was just a bad night for everyone.
HVYDRT007-"EJ's value is diminishing Game By Game"
Thanks for making my day HVYDRT, lmao!
It had everything to do with the point guard
Baron was walking the ball up the court. He as the point guard decides the tempo of the game. EJ was also guarding Evans on the defensive end of the floor and that took alot out of him. I will admit EJ looked tired, but so did every player on the Clippers.
HVYDRT007-"EJ's value is diminishing Game By Game"
Thanks for making my day HVYDRT, lmao!
He's a good athlete
his body type makes you think otherwise but he doesn’t play with full athleticism like a Wade or Brandon Roy. Maybe that will change but right now he hasn’t tied it together.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
I'll also give him slack because of the toe
From what I gathered that toe will never be right
yeah didn't like hearing that
hopefully gets it taken care of as best he can over the break
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
I will say it agian 21 years old!
The kid is in his second year. He has been coming on of late. In the last five games he was averaging 20 ppg, 4 assists, 48% shooting, and 47% 3pt shooting.
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He's had a somewhat disappointing year
I haven’t seen much improvement from him over last year. Tyreke Evans is only 20 and clearly has “it”. Not even sure what “it” is but EJ doesn’t appear to have found “it”.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
There was a stretch eailier in this 4th quarter.....
…the Clips could have gone up by 10. but too many turnovers and missed open shots
oo wait. did we play yesterday or friday?
by RockyMountain on Feb 28, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
nope nope
Friday
9:21 LAC - Offensive foul on C. Smith
by LancasterGordon4Eva on Feb 28, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
O ok. I thought David Stern was showing no love for the Clips with 3 games in 3 straight nights.
by RockyMountain on Feb 28, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
Haha
I don’t think they ever have 3 straight games in a row.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
Nope not in this league
The average person would think that was the case tonight. It certainly looked like the Clippers were coming from a back to back to back. The clippers were lazy!
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At least its a home game
we are awful on the road, we are actually a solid home team (17-12). The Jazz are just a average road team so I’d think we have a chance except for the fact the Jazz make us call them papi.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
lol
Espcially with the Wizards getting out as of late
oh nope nope
they won by 4, it was close though
9:21 LAC - Offensive foul on C. Smith
by LancasterGordon4Eva on Feb 28, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
Uh
no, they won against the Nets. It was close though.
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by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
AT had 20 points and 8 rebounds today
9:21 LAC - Offensive foul on C. Smith
by LancasterGordon4Eva on Feb 28, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
Also thornton isn't even the number one option
This is sad on many levels
He isn't?
Would think he’s 1st or 2nd on that team. Too lazy to look it up but I’d bet a pretty penny he has the most shot attempts since he’s been on the Wiz.
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by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Nope I'm way wrong
Blatche has been a beast lately. 27 pts, 12 rebs 4 ast the last 5 games. Guy is putting it all together.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
tonight he was 7-13 and 6-6 from the FT line.
think he’s only chucked up a bunch of shots once since being traded. Blatche has been the #1 option
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
AT
he’s 2nd in attempts in the last 5 games with 60 shots. Just ahead of Foye who has 56 in the 5 games. So I guess he’s settled into the 2nd or 3rd option now with Josh Howard out for the year.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
yeah with Howard healthy he'd be putting up more shot attempts than AT
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
Think the little experiment with Howard was good for Thornton
I honestly hope Thornton can become a Howard type player and from keeping up with the team Thornton is soaking in a lot of positives from Howard.
even then he was productive off the bench when he was the third option
with Josh Howard gone he has to be the second option
likely 3rd option
Foye gets to choose who gets the ball. Better player too. A solid 15 pts, 7 ast the past 5 games.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
Haha
how do we cure that? Maybe we can inject HGH directly into the brain.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
points off our turnovers have been our achilles heel
Our offense is fine, even when we’re going through those shooting droughts. It’s taking care of the ball that digs our grave. And our defense could use some work.
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 8:40 PM PST reply actions
Our offense is NOT fine!
Very little movement, lack of cutting, very little hard screens, out of positioning, our spacing is bad, lack of urgency, lazy, no ball or player movement…..need I go on?
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bro we win this game if we take care of the ball
Same goes for the other close games. We give them a 20 point handicap by turning the ball over that much. We’re 28 in the league in turnovers. That’s giving up a lot of free points. Considering this team (with the new Clippers) have kept games competitive, we’d be rolling right now if we could just take care of the ball.
by dulciusEXasperis on Feb 28, 2010 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
+1
22 fast break points for Sac tonight, a number of them off turnovers. The Clips had 6 fast break points in comparison.
6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have been getting almost 20 fast break points a night!
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Is this where we discuss trades for kaman
by Qlippers on Feb 28, 2010 8:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Yup Milph confirmed it
the kings didn’t get a full possesion until Hawes got the ball. Smart stuff
What the F$%# was that!?
That was the laziest I have sen the Clippers play all season. This was a game we should have won. Everyone played lazy! Our guards shot the ball terrible. Baron and Gordon combined 9-30 shooting. Throw Outlaw in there and they were 13-40!
Our bigs were also just as terrible. Kaman’s night might look like he had a good game, but he and Gooden were turning the ball over and not passing when we had wide open shooters open. As a team the Clippers only had 14 assists.
I don’t know what the players deal was tonight, but I think it has everything to do with Baron Davis. He wa walking the ball up the floor almost every possesion. There was atleast 5 times that I thought he was go9ing to get an 8 second count. Baron needs to undstand that as the pg he decides the tempo of the offense. We also had a few possesions towards the end of the game that got us very bad looks at the basket, also we had very few fast break buckets.
I hope we are rady to play vs. the Jazz!
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I just want they play harder like against the suns
by Qlippers on Feb 28, 2010 8:57 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
They did seem to have more energy vs. the Suns
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You must have missed a few games then
the games against the Warriors and Suns (on National Television on Christmas Day no less) were far worse. The team at least kept it interesting throughout. I’ve seen far worse : (
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
I saw the Christmas night game vs. the Suns
This was worse than that one. This was against the KINGS!
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The game vs. the Nets was the worse, haha
HVYDRT007-"EJ's value is diminishing Game By Game"
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Sac is not that far away from being a winning team
Sac has only $30+ million committed in salaries for next year. If they could pick up a big plus a scorer, they could finish over .500.
They have some nice young players
and they do appear to have a future superstar in Evans. Landry, Thompson, Hawes are fairly interesting bigs. Casspi looks like he’ll be a difference maker. I think Greene has some potential too. Not a bad core for a rebuilding project.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 28, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
going to the Suns game this Wednesday…I really hope they put some effort in it.. Clippers of past used to at least TRY hard, even though they had no talent. It seems like the theme of this year is to have tons of talent with NO effort, a la Baron Davis, who is the epitome of wasted potential. I feel like that sort of attitude soaks down to all the players on the Clips..
by Fan of the Game on Feb 28, 2010 9:10 PM PST reply actions
My thoughts exactly!
Baron is the point guard and he decides the tempo of the game. Many Clipper fans want to see our young shooting guard Eric Gordon lead this team in scoring and even take over games. One huge problem. Baron Davis is our point guard and he is blocking EJ from doing so. Countless times the Clippers will run offensive sets that allow Baron to go either left or right. If EJ is on his left, which he usually is, Baron will not pass him the ball. There is a reason why EJ’s biggest scoring games come when Baron isn’t on the floor. There is no reason why Baron Davis should be shooting as many shots as he does on this team. For all of you that think Baron is having a good season, I feel sorry for you. You guys need to watch real point guards play. Baron like I have said before is a pathetic point guard. Baron is now 41-119 shooting this month, 34% and 9-35 from 3pt 26%. He is scoring JUST 10 points per game this month! This is also his lowest month for asisst. I understansd that we are out of the playoff race, but Baron is still getting paid 12.1 million to PLAY BASKETBALL!
HVYDRT007-"EJ's value is diminishing Game By Game"
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Pretty sure if baron isn't getting EG touches it's because he is trying to feed Kaman
Besides hardly anyone passes to Gordon for one reason Gordon can be quite the lazy @$$ on offense he will stand in one spot and won’t move around the thing that Butler does running all over the court.
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