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Who is Kim Hughes?

It happens to everyone as they get older, though I don't think of myself as being an old-timer.  So last night, as I was looking at Mike Dunleavy's coaching record, considering if perhaps he's coached his last game, and realizing that he's 15th on the NBA's games coached list, it kind of hit me.  Here's a guy I watched as a PLAYER who is possibly retiring from his career as a COACH.

But I clearly wasn't as into the NBA in the 70s as I am now, because I have no recollection whatsoever of Kim Hughes as a player.  Then again, there's not a lot to remember.

Hughes was a standout for the Wisconsin Badgers from 1970 to 1974, in a twin towers front court that featured his twin brother Kerry.  His first connection to the Clippers came when he was drafted in the third round of the 1974 draft by the Buffalo Braves.  (The NBA only had 18 teams at the time, so middle of the third round then would be middle of the second round today.)  He didn't make that loaded Braves squad (which happened to be the best team in the history of the franchise at 49-33) and went to Italy to play for a season.

Star-divide

He made it back stateside the next year, where he was part of the New York Nets team that won the final ABA championship in 75-76.  The next season Hughes made it to the NBA along with Jackie Moon when the remaining ABA teams were merged in.  Hughes played his rookie season alongside Julius Erving that final ABA campaign, before Dr. J was sold to the Sixers for a washing machine.  (I'm looking forward to hearing Hughes' stories of the last days of the ABA.)

He played two seasons with the NBA Nets, then signed as a free agent with the Nuggets where he played a couple of seasons, and finished out his NBA career in Cleveland.  Statistically, his best pro season was his rookie year with the Nets, but of course that was against weaker ABA competition.  He never did a lot in the NBA.

Here's a little old timer LA NBA trivia for everyone though.  When he was traded to the Cavs in 1980, it was for former Laker Dave Robisch.  Who else remembers the full frontal nudity shot of Robisch in the showers after a Lakers game back in the day?  I looked for that on youtube, but surprisingly didn't find it.

After his half season in Cleveland, Hughes returned to Italy where he played eight more seasons in that NBA head coach feeder league.  After he quit playing, he went almost immediately into the NBA coaching pipeline.  Scout for the Bucks, scout, assistant and Director of Player Personnel for the Nuggets before joining Mike Dunleavy's inaugural staff in LA. 

If you're looking for early coaching influences, here's one interesting possibility:  Mike D'Antoni.  Hughes' first assistant coaching gig was on D'Antoni's staff during his ill-fated first NBA stop in Denver.  They also have the Italian league connection, where although they were on different teams, they were Americans playing in the same league against each other for eight full seasons.  By the way, he worked with John Lucas in Denver, where Luke was an assistant for three years.  It's a small NBA world after all.  His days as a Bucks scout were mostly in the Dunleavy era, which explains why MDsr put him on his staff when he became the Clippers head coach.

Hughes' journeyman NBA career is pretty unremarkable.  There is no profile of the kind of NBA player that makes a good NBA coach.  Many never played the game at an elite level.  Guys like the Van Gundy's, Gregg Popovich, Eric Spoelstra and Flip Saunders are just basketball junkies that became elite coaches.  A few were solid pros - guys like Doc Rivers, Lionel Hollins, Nate McMillan and Kurt Rambis.  Interestingly, very few great players become decent head coaches.  Of the current crop of coaches, I believe that Doc and Hollins were the only ones to ever make an all star team, and they did it only once each.  By contrast, the most recent hall of fame type players to try it have been major busts (Isiah Thomas, Kevin McHale, Larry Bird).

And a whole bunch of NBA head coaches were NBA journeymen, like Hughes.

Hughes' 2.7 points per game NBA average is NOT the lowest scoring average among current NBA head coaches.  That honor belongs to Rick Carlisle at 2.2 points per game.  And four other head coaches played fewer NBA minutes than Hughes' 5719 - George Karl (281), Carlisle (1461), John Kuester (1527) and D'Antoni (2656), although Karl like Hughes also played in the ABA, as did Larry Brown.

But here is the money stat on Kim Hughes.  The thing you need to know.  The thing that sets him apart from everyone else.  Kim Hughes is the worst free throw shooter in the history of the NBA.  It's true.

Among NBA players who have shot at least 100 free throws, Kim Hughes' career .333 free throw percentage is BY FAR the worst in history.  Of his 186 free throws, he made only 62.  By way of comparison, DeAndre Jordan has made 68 out of 180 to place third on the all time worst list. 

But you know what they say: those who can't do, teach.

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Looking forward to him coaching

its nice to see some good change in the Clipperland.

One thing though, I watched his interview and he said he’s a believer of not calling timeouts at the end and would rather try getting a basket in transition when the defense is still scattered. A Jerry Sloan element i think? Just wondering if this method is going to cause problems in the near future.

by peterghost on Feb 5, 2010 6:40 PM PST reply actions  

Cause problems?

Why do you necessarily think it would cause problems?

Funny you should mention it though. In December 2008, Dunleavy was away from the team for personal reasons and Hughes was the head coach in a game against Denver. The Clippers got the ball back, down one, with 12 seconds left. Guess what? No time out, they pushed the ball up the court to try to get the winning shot in transition. As it happens, they did not end up with a good shot (a Marcus Camby three, in fact) and lost the game. But I like the approach (calling time out let’s you set a play, but also let’s the defense get set, and the other coach likely knows what play you’re going to call anyway). At any rate, Hughes put his money where his mouth is in that game – he has a much lighter tough as a coach.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Feb 5, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

a much lighter tough

is exactly what the Clippers need.

by citizen zhiv on Feb 5, 2010 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

That's a funny typo

A lighter tough…. I’m going to keep it.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Feb 5, 2010 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the info Steve!

Are you feelin’ better?

"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.

by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Feb 5, 2010 7:33 PM PST reply actions  

Kim seems like a good coach

anyone that can motivate Kaman like he can surely can motivate the team to at least try to play well. And it will be fun to watch a much looser run offense.

" Baron for the win, BINGO!!!! The Clipers Win, The Clippers win!!! "
Ralph Lawler

by bestclipfan on Feb 5, 2010 7:59 PM PST reply actions  

hughes style

I have a feeling Kim Hughes will have an offense were he is constantly talking to kaman in timeouts and less so to the wing players. A perfect benefit to add kaman and rookie griffin and even veterans baron and rasual. I look forward to it

by Takebb909 on Feb 5, 2010 8:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Wait.

DeAndre Jordan is the third worst free throw shooter of all time? For real? I knew he was bad but that’s really bad. And the Clippers now corner the market with two of the three worst in their employ? So, I have to know, who’s the second? The meat in the sandwich? We need him too.

by John Raffo on Feb 5, 2010 9:34 PM PST reply actions  

Click the link swami

It’s right there dude. Lorenzo Williams, 37.7%.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Feb 5, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh.

Still don’t have a handle on this whole interweb thingy.

by John Raffo on Feb 6, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Superb effort

Now we’re talking. That’s Kim Hughes.

Can we learn more about the (recessive) twin. Kim Hughes must be, I would think, the dominant twin. Twins are awesome. Gigantic, NBA-sized twins are super awesome. The Collins twins. The Lopez twins. The Hughes twins.

We’re talking genuine rarity here.

Money stat aside, I’ll tell you what my favorite thing is. EIGHT YEARS IN THE ITALIAN LEAGUE.

Has anybody around here been to Italy? Can we get some details? Scoring average? Team? Were he and Dantoni running and gunning for the Italian crown? Was he the Chris Kaman of Italy? Did he have a post up game?

Okay, so Kim Hughes drank some coffee in the NBA, averaged a couple of points, and he played in the ABA, which establishes solid Funk credentials for all time.

But did he excel in Italy? Did he put up double doubles? We know that Dantoni balled like nobody’s business in Italy, put up big numbers, grew a moustache, became Kobe’s hero. “I’m going to shoot and score like Dantoni, young Kobe told himself.” So what was Kim Possible up to at the same time?

Great start by SP.

Our new bestest buddy, Kim Hughes.

by citizen zhiv on Feb 5, 2010 11:16 PM PST reply actions  

I shot an email to a Wisconsin buddy

But he had squat on the other brother. Friend of the blog Ricky Sixers, easily the best Italian Sixers blogger in the world, is the guy to ask about Kim’s Italian career. I’ll touch base with him in case he’s not monitoring this thread.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Feb 5, 2010 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Hughes played 8 years here in Italy

but most of thoese years he played in Italian second league so he didn’t excatly excelled even if the stats are awesome. By the way when he was in Rome (his first two seasons) he was part of the team that in 1983 won the campionship but unfortunately he was already gone when they won the Euro League one year later…
Here are the stats which seem pretty good.

by ClipperIt on Feb 6, 2010 1:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the link

Looks like Hughes was a solid if not spectacular Italian baller. Interesting that his free throw shooting seemed to improve overseas to around 65% if I’m reading the Italian correctly.

by ClipCat on Feb 6, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Can any of this explain...

WHY we shoot so POORLY at the stripe?

We seriously suck at shooting freebies. Even I can shoot at at least 80%.

Clippers 09-10. Prepare for a revolution.

by iankobe on Feb 5, 2010 11:40 PM PST reply actions  

Disagree about Larry Bird being a bust at coach

Coaching record

Indiana Pacers

    * 1998: 58–24, Eastern Conference Runner-Up
    * 1999: 33–17, Central Division Champions, Eastern Conference Runner-Up (note: season was shortened due to lockout)
    * 2000: 56–26, Eastern Conference Champions, NBA Finals Runner-Up

If that’s a bust… hate to see what you think of a coach on the level of say Vinny Del Negro (who you left off the list of decent NBA pros who became coaches) or Tim Floyd.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Feb 6, 2010 12:11 AM PST reply actions  

Bust isn't the right word for Larry Legend

But he clearly didn’t have the mentality for it, or he’d still be doing it.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Feb 6, 2010 12:17 AM PST up reply actions  

You mean heart for it?

Obviously he knows the X’s and O’s of basketball as the team did well during his tenure (they even took the Mighty Bulls to 7 and had a lead in the 4th). I think he didn’t like the travel, all the planning and also the relative helplessness of coaching (seeing plays not being completed that he could have completed when he played).

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Feb 6, 2010 2:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I was gonna bring this up as well...

…but I forgot when I saw the free-show-shooting thing. What Larry Bird did well as coach was delegate. He was calm, left the players alone and let his staff run much of the show (including Rick Carlisle).

by John Raffo on Feb 6, 2010 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Eschewed the Clipper Curse

And I always will, unless our new court general falls to a season-ending injury leading ‘his’ team. BTW, who directs team when Baron sits?

by laknights on Feb 6, 2010 7:27 PM PST reply actions  

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