Clippers vs. Milwaukee - Game Preview
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| 25-43 | 36-29 |
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| Staples Center |
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| March 17th, 2010, 7:30 PM | ||
| FSN Prime Ticket, 980 AM |
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| Probable starters: | ||
| Baron Davis | PG | Brandon Jennings |
| Eric Gordon | SG | John Salmons |
| Rasual Butler |
SF | Carlos Delfino |
| Drew Gooden |
PF | Luc Richard Mbah a Moute |
| Chris Kaman |
C | Andrew Bogut |
The Back Story:
First meeting of the season (really?) The teams split their two meetings last season.
The Big Picture:
The trends are not good. The Clippers have lost a season high eight straight games. They are 4-15 in 19 games under Kim Hughes. They have been, in a word, terrible. Although it's never likely to change, there are many (myself included) who believe that the NBA regular season is too long, and really this is exhibit A. There is a point at which teams face the fact that they have no chance to make the playoffs - and if there are still 30 or 40 games left in the season, those games can become tedious. Sure, they're pros and they're getting paid to play a great game. But the difference between going out there and playing to earn your salary, because you owe it to the fans (i.e. playing because it's your job) and playing to make the playoffs and/or to improve your chances in the playoffs is night and day. You can call the team names and say that they're tanking, but the simple fact is that they're motivation level is going to be different than if they were still in the race. It doesn't mean they'll never win again - it does mean that the overall winning percentage will plummet, as it has for the Clippers. Just look at the month-by-month won-loss record for the Clippers: November 8-6, December 6-8, January 6-9, February 4-8, March 1-8 (so far). They showed some life against New Orleans Monday night, but unfortunately ran into a team that couldn't miss. Can they come out with energy at home again tonight, or was Monday's loss the final nail in the 'mail it in' coffin?
The Antagonist:
Holy FSM, did you guys know that the Bucks are going to make the playoffs? I just looked up their record (because they're from Milwaukee, and honestly, who can keep up with all 30 teams), and it turns out they're 36-29. Who knew. Seriously, if you'd asked me to make a list before the season started of Eastern Conference teams that had NO CHANCE to make the playoffs, Milwaukee would have been first or second on the list - the Knicks would have been my other choice. And then they lost their leading scorer for the season. Of course, it's the East, so pretty much every one has a shot. But Milwaukee? Without Michael Redd? I did not see that coming. How are they doing it? Well, contrary to the Brandon Jennings hype early in the season, it's not Mr. Jennings who has transformed this team. It's Mr. Skiles. The Bucks are the second best defensive team in the NBA this season by defensive efficiency. They're only 23rd in offensive efficiency, so we pretty much know where they are winning games. You would not pick this for a stellar defensive team, looking at the individual pieces. Jennings, A hot shot rookie who went to Italy rather than play a year of college ball, Carlos Delfino is not exactly known as a defensive stopper, Andrew Bogut is a nice center, but hasn't made any all-defense teams. LRMAM is the only great individual defender I see on that roster. So they're doing it with team defense, and I think you have to give Skiles the credit there. After all, they've gone from 15th in defensive efficiency to second. Maybe coaches do matter? (Of course, based on past experience Skiles' act will eventually wear thin, but it seems to be working now.) The other way the Bucks are winning is with a team effort - six players are averaging between 10 and 18 points per game.
The Subplots
- Summer league. During the NBA summer league in Vegas, I saw a Bucks team of Jennings, rookie second round pick Jodie Meeks, Joe Alexander, LMAM and someone else I can't recall take the floor for the start of a game. I quipped to Seth from BSotS that other than center, we could be looking at the Bucks starting lineup for the regular season (Redd was rumored to be on the block at the time). My point was that Milwaukee was bound to be bad this year. Turns out, only Jennings and LRMAM actually start, Bogut has been terrific, and Meeks and Alexander have both been shipped out. The guys starting in place of Meeks and Alexander don't exactly scream playoff team (Charlie Bell for most of the season at the two, now Salmons, and Delfino at the three). But clearly the Bucks have proven me wrong.
- More on the surprising Bucks. Back to why I thought the Bucks would be bad this year - although Jennings tore up the summer league, he was so obnoxious, such a showboat, I was pretty sure he was going to get popped by someone in Vegas. It never happened, but the other thing I was sure of was that his showboating would never work for Scott Skiles. I imagined Jennings going into Skiles' doghouse and never coming out. Chalk it up to another thing I was totally and completely wrong about.
- Stackhouse and Thomas. There are five active NBA players drafted before 1995. There are eight more who were drafted in 1995, and two of them are Jerry Stackhouse and Kurt Thomas. Usually 15 year vets sign with playoff teams for one last run at glory. Oh wait, the Bucks are a playoff team. I keep forgetting.
- Long season, part deux. I find the quirks of the NBA schedule to be fascinating. The Clippers only have 14 games left, the Bucks 17, and this is the first time they're meeting this year (they play in Milwwaukee in two weeks). Had the Bucks played the Clippers earlier in the season when they had something to play for, I would have expected the Clippers to win. Now, I don't. (We'll see what happens.) But even though the schedule is almost completely balanced, these little quirks (catching a team on a back to back, catching a team with their best player injured, catching a team when they are in the process of shutting down) could easily account for four or five or more wins over the course of a season.
- Sessions. It's funny that I'm talking about knowing nothing about the Bucks now, because I knew a lot about them during the off-season. There was a time when nothing else was happening that we talked about Milwaukee free agent Ramon Session every day. The Bucks of course drafted Jennings, and also hung onto Luke Ridnour. I think most people probably thought Sessions was better than either of those guys, but Sessions is having a very mediocre season for a terrible Timberwolves team, while Jennings and Ridnour have combined to average 26 points and 10 assists between them (that's in 54 minutes, not 48 minutes, but still). We even read into the off-season trade for Delfino and Roko Ukic, that it meant that Sessions was gone. Well, Sessions is gone - and so is Ukic, since waived.
- Jennings is unique. There are three players in the league who have made a higher percentage of their three point shots than two point shots while taking more than 100 3's. Anthony Parker (.442 on threes, .438 on threes) and Daniel Gibson (.479 to .469) are two of them (no wonder Cleveland is winning games, sheesh). The third is Jennings, but unfortunately his percentages are quite so good. He's making .385 of his threes, but only .369 overall. We're used to Baron Davis having the worst shooting percentage among NBA guards, but this year he's not even in the bottom 10.
- While we're on the subject. Baron's recent improved shooting has got him up to 40% on the season. He has had three straight nights of shooting above 50% for the second time this season. If he can make it four in a row, it will be a high water mark for his Clippers career.
- Hairstyles. Back to Jennings for a moment, he has really had some interesting hairstyles this season. He had the full Kidd n' Play for a while, and before that some short dreds. Then he went with the fauxhawk, and now he's got what can only be described as a redhawk. The dude certainly has an NBA personality.
- Double Reverse Mojo. Did ClipperSteve put the double reverse mojo on Chris Kaman? When I went to the trouble to define the 30wo20 stat and point out that Kaman held the NBA career record, I figured he'd immediately go for 30 and make the post obsolete. Instead, Kaman has gone the other way. In the seven games since I wrote about it, Kaman has yet to score 20 - his longest such streak this season. Of course, it goes beyond just not hitting the 20 point mark - Kaman has been in a profound slump, including games of 5 for 17, 3 for 9, and Monday's 3 for 15, his worst game of the season. Come on Chris, snap out of it. I'm sorry I wrote about you. I won't do it again. Oops, I just did.
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Movie Quote:
The Dude, The Big Lebowski (1988). Have I really gone this long with this whole movie quote thing without anything from the Dude? They had a Lebowskifest at the Art Theater in Long Beach a month ago - I wanted to go, but it was at midnite and I can't really stay out that late. Anyway, I love me some Coen Brothers.No, I'm saying, if he knows I'm a f-up, why does he leave me in charge of getting his wife back? Because he doesn't f-ing want her back! He no longer digs her, it's all a show! Ok, so then why doesn't he give a sh!t about his million bucks? I mean, he knows we never handed off the briefcase, but he never asked for it back. The million bucks was never in the briefcase! The a-hole was hoping that they would kill her! You threw out a ringer for a ringer!
- Get the Bucks perspective at Brew Hoop.
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this game is going to be televised on ESPN..i don’t think this game was a part of their schedule before the season started..i doubt many people will be watching this game
I was going to say something about that....
but I forgot. There are only two West Coast, 7:30 PM tips tonight. Clippers-Bucks and Warriors-Hornets. Of the four teams, only the Bucks are in a playoff race. I assume that’s why they get the nod.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Mar 17, 2010 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Talk about the lesser of two evils
I’m thinking they also want to show off Jennings since he started off with such a bang. Plus they probably scheduled this during pre-season when we had this awesome monster of destruction raring to go…
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Mar 17, 2010 4:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Bogut's improved defense is another reason for Milwaukee's improved defense.
Career highs in rebounds (10.4) and blocks (2.5) have him suddenly in consideration for all-defense teams.
and it turns out they’re 36-29. Who knew.
This is actually a very recent phenomenon. Although they did manage to tread water for awhile, they’re 12-1 since they traded for Salmons. A month ago the Bucks and Clips were only a few games apart in W-L record.
Amazing what a good trade can do for a team huh?
Come to think of it… wha mid-season trades have worked out for the Clippers. The Zbo experience ended with a 19 win season, Nique was good for half a season, of course we traded our franchise player in his prime (Danny Manning) for a 34 year old… I think the only one that kind of worked out for us was Chris Wilcox for Vlad… that’s pretty sad.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Mar 17, 2010 4:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't forget Ike Austin
Trading deadline acquisition, he averaged career highs in points in rebounds in 26 games as the Clippers starting center. Of course, he was a free agent that summer and left.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Mar 17, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah…i forget what team he signed with after leaving the Clippers, but he bounced around quite a bit, and was out of the Association a few years later. Ol’ Ike has been kinda forgotten around these parts for awhile.
by Shawn H on Mar 17, 2010 10:05 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The Salmons deal is the main headline
I’m surprised that SP didn’t make this the main point, and I don’t know how the trade for Salmons got buried here. I don’t really know anything about the Bucks either, but a glance at them on the schedule in the midst of a now beefy losing streak after going down to a Hornets team without Paul and Peja showed exactly what SP said: the trends are not good.
What I knew was that Jennings blew up and then cooled down, that Bogut was playing very well, better than Kaman I would assume, which has to be causing problems for a lot of teams, and then I somehow noticed that they were surging since acquiring Salmons. Surging. A team that has gone 12-1 now has a road game against the Clippers. Let’s remember that the Hornets were mired in losing before they beat the Clippers.
Salmons must be a tidy fit in replacing Redd. He seems to fill in and make teams better, but there was no spot for him playing behind Kevin Martin in Sac. Only now Kevin Martin is gone. And Salmons is in the playoffs again, after helping the Bulls in the playoffs last year.
So if they’re 36-29 and they’ve gone 12-1, the computer-like mind tells me they were 24-28, worthy of SP’s assumption that they were a mediocre non-playoff team. This whole Bucks playoff thing is a recent, and fairly exciting phenomenon. Good for them.
We’ve been hearing Milph work “the five best backup PGs in the NBA” meme ever since SBlake had a nice debut and a couple of good games with BDavis out when he first arrived. SP does a good job of breaking down the Sessions situation we passed through over the summer (wasn’t Sessions supposed to be one of the 5 best backup PGs?), and according to his analysis Ridnour seems to deserve a lot of credit. And Skiles must be handling the minutes between Jennings and Ridnour pretty well, especially recently, as the team has surged. Surging is such a nice thing to do. I wish the Clippers might surge one day.
So the bench includes Ridnour, Stackhouse, and KThomas. A Bogut-KThomas-LRMAM rotation probably works pretty well, and LRMAM probably plays a lot of SF too, starts the game guarding the other teams best player. Must be fun. Wouldn’t he fit pretty well into the Clippers lineup?
Looking forward to Kaman vs. Bogut. Lisa D. had a story today on Kaman, who was saying that he’s out of sync with the limited minutes in the 1st quarter, but he doesn’t want to get in the way of whatever Kim Hughes is trying to do. Hughes says that no one is harder on Kaman for playing poorly and missing shots than Kaman himself. Maybe the Kaman tide will turn with this matchup against Bogut.
by citizen zhiv on Mar 17, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Not looking forward to Kaman vs bogut.
by Sam50 on Mar 17, 2010 4:08 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Ugh Steve
During the NBA summer league in Vegas, I saw a Bucks team of Jennings, rookie second round pick Jodie Meeks, Joe Alexander, LMAM and someone else I can’t recall take the floor for the start of a game. I quipped to Seth from BSotS that other than center, we could be looking at the Bucks starting lineup for the regular season (Redd was rumored to be on the block at the time).
You know better than this… Clipper fans (and especially bloggers) should never trash talk. Now they are going to the playoffs and we aren’t. Someone looks like a tool now :D
FA in 2010.
Used to it...
I think the fact that Redd rumors were flying that day had something to do with it.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Mar 17, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Cleveland Guards
Anthony Parker (.442 on threes, .438 on threes) and Daniel Gibson (.479 to .469) are two of them (no wonder Cleveland is winning games, sheesh).
That’s the Lebron Effect… Mo Williams went from a solid 38.5% 3pt shooter to 43.6 and 42.5% in Cleveland (he almost made the list, 43.3% overall fg this year). If by some miracle we land Lebron then I guarantee you EJ would shoot over 40% from the three point line as well.
FA in 2010.
Jennings Hairstyles
How can you forget his Gumby haircut he had for the all-star game. Huge snub imo.
FA in 2010.
Hard to keep up with all of them...
But yes, the Gumby was a classic.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Mar 17, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
hey we are getting closer to moving up in the draft!
we are playing a hot team tonight. If we play hard, then ill be happy with the loss, if we dont play with any energy, well i wont be so happy with a loss.
Pathetics update
Pacers get a victory, go to 22 wins.
Sixers (23 wins) play the Nets tonight. If the Clips win and the Sixers lose, that would be a big switch.
Sixers are winning
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Brandon Jennings seems like the type of player to really want to play well on National TV
I’m kinda worried about that.
http://lasportsops.tumblr.com/
He stunk against the Lakers in his first homecoming game of the season, so as a Bucks fan I’m obviously hoping he does better this time around. His shooting from 15 feet and in has stunk most of the season, and he takes too many fadeaways with guys in his grill from the perimeter, but as Steve mentioned he’s actually been very respectable from three which helps a lot. He’s also made a ton of big shots late in games—he’s missed some, too, but he’s not afraid to take shots and he’s shown the composure to make them as well. He’s been shooting less of late and generally picking his spots better, which has been a big help. Having Salmons on the wing as a guy who can get his own shot definitely helps takes some pressure off him.
by Frank Madden on Mar 17, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Looking foward to this games the Bucks are a team I have kept a eye on because of Jennings
The Bucks are a solid team on huge hot streak beware of the deer people.
Bucks is good example
we don’t need a star FA to turn our fortune around, just look at the team we are playing tonight.
All we need is a good systems and a good coach, we may already have good players; who knows BG may turn out to be bigger than LBJ in five years.
Ever wonder why certain NBA teams, Jazz, Spurs, Lakers are always in the playoffs, they kept the core guys for longest possible, same coach, rarely trade for players. we are exactly the opposit end of that spectrum. I don’t mean I am a fan of those teams, but there are reasons for success, we must learn or copy from.
Good point
if anything this pushes us to sign a defense-oriented head coach. If the Bucks are able to move from 15th to 2nd in defensive efficiency with essentially the same cast of players this really speaks strongly on the quickest and easiest way to improve your team. My support for JVG has just gotten stronger.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Mar 17, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Bucks were also dead last in defensive efficiency two years ago, which further underscores your point. Skiles has really meant everything to this team, which has been so great after years of watching young coaches flame out. We also had our Dunleavy coach/GM experience in the ’90s, so we feel your pain on that front…
by Frank Madden on Mar 17, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
JVG would be a fantastic choice
I think in this day and age more than ever you need a guy who has proven himself and can command players’ respect. Obviously Skiles and JVG haven’t reached the level of Sloan or Pop in terms of longevity at one place, but I like their chances of resurrecting a bad team much better than taking a chance on a young coach without their credentials.
Tough to say which way the Bucks go in the long term—they have a couple quality young players who look like keepers in Jennings and Bogut, but neither is a superstar and Steve’s right that on paper this team has a ton of what appear to be marginal players. But I also think Hammond and Skiles did do a good job of getting “average” guys who play the right way, share the ball, buy into the system, don’t cost a ton, etc. Which in the big picture gives the team a much better chance of outperforming expectations. There’s no guarantee the team can keep improving, as they need to add major talent to be legit contenders, but they’re on the right track.
by Frank Madden on Mar 17, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone loves the underdog
Even if they aren’t championship caliber, its refreshing to see a team of guys who have been labeled too slow, too small, too short, too limited etc etc prove they can compete and succeed at the highest level. The Bucks have the kind of team you would hope a moribund franchise like the Clippers could field, the Hollywood quin-essential sad sack franchise that defies the odds and succeeds despite the owners, absent fan base and lack of prestige in the players background. So kudos to the Bucks for (pardon the pun) bucking expectations and making it to the playoffs. If you guys get paired up against the rapidly aging Celtics you even have a decent shot of winning a series.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Mar 17, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Imagine what that system could do with unlimited funds
Or whatever the words were in the recent Clipper presser announcing MDSr’s release
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Wait and see on that one
easy to talk about spending whatever is necessary during the season. Let’s see what the team actually does in the off-season when real money is in play.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Mar 17, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes but Skiles
Also uncharasterically gave the reins to an unproven rookie. I posted an interesting article about that some time ago. So he’s proven to be flexible as a coach.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Very interesting stuff
I haven’t followed the Bucks as a whole closely this year so aside from the guys who would garner attention in fantasy leagues I didn’t keep tabs on them but I did know Ridnour was having a very good year. So a team that has Luke Ridnour (who Jay Bilas said couldn’t guard a chair) playing a substantial role for them is 2nd in the league in defensive efficiency is VERY VERY impressive.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Mar 17, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
They certainly are interesting
Mixing things up with Jennings and Ridnour is just one of the interesting things about them. John R notes the rebounding down below. Bogut seems to have gotten the rebounding memo that Kaman missed at the beginning of the year. Kurt Thomas is a solid rebounder.
The thing I’m wondering is if LRMAM is the anti-Al Thornton. And if he might be able to get a Bobby Simmons deal out of it, or at least an Ariza deal. What’s his contract status, as a second round pick?
by citizen zhiv on Mar 17, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Are they really though?
The Bucks are 36-29 and a pretty poor 10-14 against the Western Conference. They wouldn’t even be the 8th seed right now in the West. If they actually played in the West, their record would likely be worse.
And your premise about the Jazz, Spurs and Lakers is fatally flawed. They don’t win because they keep the same core players/coaches. They win because they acquire stars and THEN keep those stars. When the Jazz didn’t have stars, they stunk, and then they drafted Deron Williams and signed Boozer. When the Spurs didn’t have stars, they stunk and won the lottery to draft Tim Duncan. The Lakers understand that and always go after stars. But even they needed to lure Shaq from Orlando and later trade for Pau.
We’re exactly the opposite of that spectrum because we don’t have stars, not because we don’t keep the same group together.
You can't necessarily look at it that way
we can’t assume its transitive and by simply moving the Bucks to the West that would regress. Look at the Hornets, they are 22-20 in the Western Conference and 11-15 against the Eastern Conference. Houston is 10-13 against the East (24-18 against the West). In fact, I’d say the Bucks are the Rockets of the East this year and vice versa.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Mar 17, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Look at the Bucks vs. the West
Like I already wrote, they’re 10-14. That’s a pretty strong indication that they would likely have a worse record if they were actually a western team.
And again, even if they had the same record (which is a dubious position to take) they’d be the 9th seed. Not exactly something to crow about.
My point is directly in response to Pats fan’s point that you don’t need stars. Yea, you don’t need stars if you aspire to be a 9th seed. But unless the Clips are planning to move back to Buffalo, they’re going to seed a star. This is a star driven league and stars make teams elite.
I'd have to go back and see who they played and the scores of the games
As I recall they played some of the top teams in the West (like the Mavs) very close.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
What about the surge
But aren’t the Bucks a different, much better team since they got Salmons? They were a handful of games below .500 before that, and they’ve won 12 out of 13 since. It’s a nice streak.
So the question is who their opponents have been during that time, and the overall 10-14 record against the West is slightly skewed.
Basically, they’re a team that got better at midseason and turned into a second level playoff team in the East. It’s not that big a deal, there’s not too much to get excited about. Somewhere I saw mentioned the matchup last night between #7 seeds, San Antonio versus Miami. Spurs killed them.
That’s part of the problem for the Clippers, and it needs to be mentioned about the Bucks. They can come together and add a nice piece and be a viable playoff team in the East. The Memphis Funk, on the other hand, can get a really good groove going and end up 5 games out in the West.
by citizen zhiv on Mar 17, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Well some of these West teams will fall apart
if the Jazz lose Boozer this summer, they will likely fall out of the playoffs. If the Suns lose Amare, they will likely fall out of the playoffs. Even the Spurs are in danger of regressing a lot in the off season as they could lose Manu and Duncan gets older. The Funk, Rockets (with Yao back), Hornets (with CP3 back) and maybe even those incompetent Clippers can take those spots up with the right moves.
36-29 is a big deal, playoff spot or not. A 45 win season would be tied for our 2nd best record ever. Man, I’m done looking at stats on the Clippers today, they will make me overindulge in green beer.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Mar 17, 2010 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
This is an improving team
Close losses to teams like the Mavs on the road, while building a winning record overall, seems relevant to me.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Its not Skiles
What was wrong with Skiles’ system last year? What was wrong with it when it got him fired from Chicago?
Did he forget how to coach for a while and then remember?
Its also not Jennings. Though I guess its less shocking to be blinded by points. That one fools everyone. But if you do a deep dive, Brandon Jennings this year looks remarkably like Baron Davis.
What they are though, is an elite defensive rebounding team. Its really what defines them. In fact in at least one area of defense they are terrible. Skiles’ amazing defensive scheme coughs up the most FTA per FGA in the league.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
No, its also the coaching
You have to get the players to buy into the defensive schemes and philosophy. If the coach can’t sell them on this concept then he looks bad, if he does then he’s a winner.
Brandon Jennings actually makes Baron look good, really good. What do you expect from a 20 year old playing the point?
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Mar 17, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Good points
The point about Jennings is particularly apt. He’s doing fine considering his age and what he’s been asked to do.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
No need for the strident extreme statements
The coaching system does indeed play a role.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

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