Golden State 121 - Clippers 103 - Nelson Still Has a Chance
by Steve Perrin on Mar 28, 2010 9:41 PM PDT
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PrintLeave it to the Clippers to give Golden State their fifth road win of the season. After that performance, I really have no desire to spend any time on a recap tonight.
I knew that having Monta Ellis out of the lineup was a bad thing for LA. A 46-14 run over 13 minutes before halftime was the difference in the game - as 46-14 runs often are. During that stretch, the Clippers were completely awful - embarrassingly so. They couldn't come close to defending the Warriors, which is bad enough. But how can you possibly only score 14 points in 13 minutes against the secod worst defense in the NBA?
The Clippers had trouble making shots all night, as their 38% shooting would attest. The real question is why they would take 26 three point attempts when their advantage is on the inside against this team. Part of the answer there lies in the fact that Chris Kaman was ineffective, scoring 9 points on 4 for 11 shooting, and committed 4 turnovers. He played only 20:33 in the game, compared to 23:27 for DeAndre Jordan - in a game that was within 9 points in the fourth quarter.
If the Clippers win another game this season, it won't be one we expect them to win. They won't beat the Knicks next Sunday. They won't beat the Warriors on the 10th, making Clips Nation Night less fun than it might otherwise be. They could maybe win a game if they get up for an opponent. But in these games against other lottery teams, we can be certain that they'll be disinterested and undisciplined.
The possibility of Don Nelson picking up two road wins against the Clippers in his final ten games greatly enhances his odds of catching and passing Lenny Wilkins for the all time wins record. I think you have to figure he'll get there now, assuming his players care at all about getting it for him. After all, they only have to win two other games, not counting the ones against the Clippers.
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Shortest recap of the season?
Really no point in wasting your time writing up a lengthy recap. Same old story, different opponent. Hope we keep our lottery pick. Looks like we’ll be picking 6-8. Could get a nice player to compliment our core.
by dulciusEXasperis on Mar 28, 2010 10:05 PM PDT reply actions
+1
Agree, what a waste of everyone’s time. I turned it off at halftime and still felt cheated. The game deserves no recap, other than to say that the core of the team must be rotten to play with as little effort as they played. No effort on defense and selfish play on offense. When the second team was in start of 2nd quarter, it was as if they had never played together before and were clueless about calling any offensive sets. I feel bad for whoever the Clips draft because who would want to be part of such a pathetic team.
omg yeah those offensive sets were terrible
if you can even call it an offensive set. There was zero ball movemement and the rest of the guys were standing in place hoping to get the ball.
by dulciusEXasperis on Mar 29, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I think any of these sum up the performance
Grotesque, hideous, homely, ill-favored, unappealing, unattractive, unbeautiful, unhandsome, unlovely, unpleasing, unpretty, unsightly, vile, disgusting, repugnant, repulsive, revolting; unimposing, unprepossessing, unimpressive; plain, unaesthetic, unbecoming, unshapely.
Time to spend more time following the Clipper Mistress.
FA in 2010.
I hope you folks who are pro-tanking are happy for the Clippers losing tonight. You all should be satistfied…losing to the worst road team in the league, and they had half of their team on the injured list. Just so Clipperesque, losing to teams you have no business losing, at the home, and not really giving a damn in the process.
by Shawn H on Mar 28, 2010 10:18 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I've never been a pro-tanker
I am confident however that this team can lose to anyone, anytime, anywhere. Tonight should have been a win but somehow we lost badly at home… what else is there to say about this group?
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Mar 28, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you said as best you could, Chuck. I pretty much feel the same way…maybe we’re overrating this team, who the hell knows. All I know that the effort is way too inconsistent, and its often disheartening to watch this team more often than not…just not enough pride on the Clippers.
by Shawn H on Mar 28, 2010 10:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Funny
I get that feeling every year… its almost like deja vu.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Mar 28, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Is anyone Pro-Tanking?
I’m not. It’s always better to win. My only appreciation for tanking is after the fact. How did the team figure out how to lose? It’s just a fascinating and ironic inversion of the things we generally like and are curious about in sports. Playing the Warriors at home, with all of their guys out, it’s takes a rare effort to lose a game like that.
Has there ever been a more fragile team than the Clippers? Not only are they confused and demoralized somehow when the opponent’s best players are out, which is just weird, but they can’t adapt to the slightest tweak in their own lineup. As mentioned below, the wheels come off for the Clippers when Steve Blake goes down. Steve Blake! The backup PG. And they have a guy who should be a decent 3rd stringer in Brown.
The Warriors were much more interesting than the Clippers in this game. It was good to see Maggs. But the obvious All-Stars Against the Clippers (A-SAtC) were Curry and Williams. Milph said that no one knew that Curry was going to be this good. Um, no. Curry was obviously going to be really really good. He was an incredible shooter. But he was really fun to watch play. And Williams was a funny southpaw. Milph was fairly astute when they said that he looked like James Harden. Or the Clippers made him look like Harden—not that Harden is really killing anybody yet. I was surprised that Williams was 6’6". And Curry looks bigger than he used to. But I don’t know, I was moving pretty quickly through a bad game.
by citizen zhiv on Mar 29, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
If this loss helps us get either Evan Turner or John Wall, thereby making the Clips even more attractive to LeBron, yes, I'm satisfied.
Do you think the Cavs regret tanking in order to draft LeBron? Hell no. Why should we regret tanking to get Wall or Turner?
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Panthers // Gators // Boise State
Hughes is to blame
Kim Hughes is stupid and stubborn to let Golden State go 20-2 in the second quarter.Davis and Kaman had it out on the court.Kaman stinks and Davis still does not pass the ball.
Steve Blake 's Injury Sealed It
Bobby Brown’s was -12 in 4 minutes.
he was pretty awful. Couldn't run a single offensive play.
He’d pick up his dribble and then get stuck. That was our offense.
by dulciusEXasperis on Mar 29, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
This team needs to be imploded or retracted.
This is beyond embarrassing of epic proportion.
It’s shameful that these guys get paychecks for nights like these, which is a far too common occurrence for this pathetic group.
Why would any free agents want to come here? Oh wait, I know. So they can cash in and quit working. Hello Baron Davis. Here is your $165,000 performance for tonight’s 33% shooting, can’t wait to see you next game.
We will never be a winning franchise, this whole organization is just stockpiled with losers. The only common thread throughout it all is Sterling. Maybe if he chokes on an artichoke or something over the off-season we’ll have a chance.
I've got nothing.
Agreed.
What free agent would want to join the Clippers? Only someone who’s interested in just the $s and being in LA. I want someone who’s focused on winning and leading.
Are you kidding?
Turning this franchise around would be a selling point. Winning the Clippers a championship or five would be the most impressive thing a high-profile player could ever have on their resume.
And I’m sure people like LeBron, Carmelo, and Dwyane Wade, who are already winners and leaders on their current teams, wouldn’t suddenly decide to be selfish and apathetic as soon as they joined the Clippers.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Panthers // Gators // Boise State
D league Warriors trounce miserable west coast version of the NJ Nets
These clowns are pathetic. The Pittsburgh Pirates of basketall.There is no core group of players who have any value. Baron Davis is a joke
It's my fault, we were up by ten when
I got to the game and we ended up getting trounced. By the way, the Warriors didn’t care to win this either, they sat Maggette the entire fourth quarter, we just suck more than they do.
Kaman: 20.6 minutes +5
Jordan: 23.4 minutes -14
No Kaman or Jordan: 4 minutes -9
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
Kaman had a okay night
his shooting left much to be desired but he did grab 13 rebounds in 21 minutes which is pretty darn impressive. Just another frustrating night of Clippers Basketball.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Mar 29, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I was watching and thought
Well they are going to bang on Kaman, but that game was lost while he was on the bench.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
r u kidding?
Kaman had better get a bunch of boards against a team where Turiaf is the tallest guy. He gets no kudos for that. And his decision-making on offense was horrible as usual. When he got it on the block, he insisted on putting it on the floor for 4 or 5 dribbles, leading to the inevitable double-team/strip/fast break bucket by the Warriors. When he got it in close, he went up soft and missed at least a couple of bunnies. Take a lesson from Turiaf — try to tear the rim down Chris. And that panicked cross-court pass he launched about twelve feet over Kim Hughes’ head — that was pathetic.
by benoit benjamin's two left shoes on Mar 29, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
The pass where he got knocked down?
There was a ton of contact and the refs should have called a foul.
And 13 rebounds is still a lot in 20 minutes, that’s more than Gooden and DJ got in more minutes.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Mar 29, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
people are still blaming Baron?
are you serious, he is the only one that seems to care out there. He huddles everyone up to make sure they are on the same page. He is calling out Kaman. He is always closing out. I am very curious to how many of you are watching the same games as I am. If you are, you guys are just scapegoating.
i agree with you that Baron is playing hard
its good to see him finish the year strong. I have been impressed with Baron. He is still a very athletic and gifted player imo. Im kind of bummed watching EJ though. His shot seems to be very inconsistant. I wish he would drive it more instead of hanging out at the 3 point line and jacking up 3s when they arent falling. He was getting a lot of respect from the refs attempting 10 free throws. thats DWade status!
What does it matter if one cares?
I’m not too interested in his motivation in shooting 6-18. Again.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
well how about blame going to other players
who don’t care AND suck
For example?
Fun facts:
The Clippers are 9-8 in games where Baron Davis appears and takes 10 shots or less.
They are 3-8 in games where Baron Davis appears and takes 18 shots or more.
They are 2-12 when Baron Davis scores 16-19 points.
Don’t confuse taking jumpers with helping the team when it comes to Baron Davis. The opposite appears to be more true.
They are 1-1 in games without Baron Davis at all.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
We are outplayed...
Forget about the FA, tanking the games for better ping pong, just scouting the D-Leaguers, these guys are good, and don’t cost DTS much $$, capable of winning few NBA games.
We were outworked
I’m amazed that so many fans are willing to give this team a pass. We have an ‘all-star’ point guard and an ‘all-star’ center. We have a ‘great core’ to build on. What we have is a team with absolutely no interest in playing defense. People can spout all the offensive statistics that Kaman did this or Davis did this. San Antonio scores 90 points against the Celts and win by 17. You win with defense.
I got a kick out of Ralph and Mike agreeing that for the past few weeks Baron’s playing the best ball he’s ever played since joining the Clippers. Funny thing, the Clippers’ record during that time sucks. They’re forgetting one of John Wooden’s principles: don’t confuse activity with achievement. What has this team achieved this season? Nothing. Since Camby was traded, this team has gone something like 6 and 15. The interior defense is now non-existent. He was the true professional on the team.
Assuming the Cause
I find it funny that so many people are willing to spout the record post Camby but few acknowledge the record post Dunleavy.
Why are you assuming the cause in one instance and not the other?
by Michael White on Mar 29, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a players' game
You raise a good point. I don’t see a big difference between Hughes and Dunleavy in how they coach. Hughes made a big deal at the beginning how he wanted the team to run. But, he soon found out and admitted this team can’t run. Offensively, everyone’s looking for their own points. The big difference is on the defensive end. The team shows no effort. I’d love to see the stats on number of layups given up pre-Camby and post-Camby. The Clips’ defensive efficiency rating has gone sky high since Camby left and Hughes came in. Hughes lacks any real power over the players. He isn’t coming back, everyone knows it, and frankly many of the players are taking advantage of that, to their discredit. What Dunleavy had, and Hughes doesn’t, was the power that comes with being the Coach and GM and maybe being back in LA next year.
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