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Clippers vs. Phoenix - Game Preview

2009/2010 NBA Regular Season
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25-35
38-24
Staples Center
March 3rd, 2010, 7:30 PM
FSN Prime Ticket, 980 AM
Probable starters:
Baron Davis PG Steve Nash
Eric Gordon SG Jason Richardson
Rasual Butler
SF Grant Hill
Drew Gooden
PF Amare Stoudemire
Chris Kaman C Robin Lopez

The Back Story:

  • October 28th in LA - Phoenix 109 - Clippers 107 - Recap  Box Score
  • December 25th in Phoenix - Phoenix 124 - Clippers 93 - Recap  Box Score
  • February 26th in Phoenix - Phoenix 125 - Clippers 112 - Recap  Box Score

The Big Picture:

The Clippers face the Suns for the fourth and final time tonight, and would like to avoid being swept for the second season in a row.  The three prior meetings have been a mixed bag.  The first game, WAY BACK in the first home game of the season, was a two point, last second loss in which the Clippers outplayed the Suns, but missed way too many free throws.  The second meeting was a humiliating butt-kicking on National TV on Christmas Day.  The third one was a scant five days ago in which the Chris Kaman got ejected on the first play of the second half, and the Clippers eventually wore down.  So it's pretty hard to make any predictions from those games.  The Clippers scored very effectively last Friday, but were unable to stop Phoenix, which is kind of how they like to operate.  So the first order of business in this game will be defense, and it starts with the pick-and-roll.  The Clippers will likely be without Craig Smith again tonight, which is too bad as he tore up the Suns last week.  The MRI on his bicep tendon was negative, but he'll probably continue to sit out for a bit.  That loss is mitigated somewhat against the Suns, as Travis Outlaw can certainly play the four against the likes of Channing Frye, and I expect to see that matchup some tonight.  I would like to see Travis get some more minutes, and tonight is a great opportunity.  But overall I think the key to this game is pretty obvious - can Kaman redeem himself for his poor play and early exit last week?  If so, I like the Clippers' chances.

Star-divide

The Antagonist:

Phoenix continues to beat people, as long as they're not the Spurs.  The Suns are currently one game out of home court advantage in the first round, which would have seemed a ridiculous thought if you'd suggested it before the season started.  By the way, home court advantage is a huge factor for Phoenix, especially when you're talking about Utah as a potential opponent.  The Suns actually have a losing record, 15-17, outside of Arizona this season, so you can bet they'd like to play four at home in the first round.  They beat the Nuggets the other night in impressive fashion, and if not for a blown Jason Richardson dunk in the last minute of Sunday's game in San Antonio, they might very well be on a seven game winning streak.  Steve Nash continues to be the greatest 35 year old Canadian point guard in the NBA, but one wonders if he's gotten a little uppity since Canada got lucky in that hockey game Sunday.  Time to bring him and his country down a peg.  Damn canucks.

The Subplots

  • Home Court Advantage.  It worked against the Jazz, so I'm going to play this card again.  Clippers, 18-12 at home.  Suns 15-17 on the road.  The Clippers will obviously win based on those numbers.
  • Robin Lopez.  In last Friday's game, Robin Lopez scored 30 points and grabbed 12 rebounds.  Monday against the Nuggets he went for 3 and 4.  If Kaman isn't embarrassed about getting tossed, he should at least be embarrassed about letting Lopez go off for a career night (actually, career night doesn't even seem to cover this - since his prior career high for scoring was 20 and he had 19 in the first half, this seems more like a 1.5 career night at least).  Of course, it's not as if Lopez was making one on one post moves.  He was finishing on the pick and roll, and getting offensive put backs.  The Clippers have got to rotate better, and box out better.
  • Channing Frye.  Prior to this season, in four years in the NBA, Channing Frye had taken 70 three pointers, making 20 of them (29%).  This season, he has taken 303 and made 130, 43%.  How does that happen?  Basketball stat guys like Dave Berri like to talk about how players by and large don't change much, that they do the same things more or less year in year out.  Yeah, right.  How does a player for from a non-shooter to the top 10 in percentage, fourth most makes in the league?  It's unbelievable.  Did he start working on the shot when he was signed by the Suns?  Did he start before?  Is it just a confidence thing?  Alvin Gentry gives him the perpetual green light, so everything goes in?  If he can go from 29% to 43% in one season, does that mean anyone can do it?  I have questions and I need answers.
  • Baron's Defense.  During last week's Suns game, I noticed Baron working hard defending Jason Richardson.  At the time I noticed it because he's just come off of a game defending Stephen Jackson, because I assumed that Baron was looking extra motivated on D and that it must have been due to facing his old Warriors mates.  Since then he's also locked in on Tyreke Evans and Deron Williams, and frankly he's looked as focus on defense as I've seen him as a Clipper.  It may be difficult to keep up the defensive intensity over the final 22 games, but I take it as a very good sign of Baron's commitment that he's been working as hard as he has.
  • Frustration?  Baron committed nine turnovers against Utah, almost logging a dreaded triple bumble (hat tip to citizens John R and penguin35).  A couple of the miscues credited to Baron were arguably not his fault, coming on passes catchable passes that just weren't caught.  Much has been made about a chemistry developing between Baron and Kaman, and certainly it's better than it was last season when they barely played together, but still no one's going to be mistaking them for Magic and Kareem any time soon.  Lately, I've felt like I've seen some frustration (an eye roll, a scowl, etc.) from Baron when Chris has not caught a pass or not been where Baron expected him to be.  Monday night, they got into a bit of a back and forth as they ran downcourt after one miscommunication.  It's something to watch for.
  • Phoenix's Phuture.  Since it's all about next season for the Clippers right now, it's worth looking at the horizon for their Pacific Division rivals.  Amare Stoudemire will be a free agent and is looking for a big payday that he's unlikely to get in Phoenix since Robert Sarver is tired of paying the luxury tax.  Two other starters, Steve Nash and Grant Hill, are among the oldest players in the league, and they can't defy their ages forever.  Jason Richardson will be 30, and his productivity has already begun to drop off.  This summer they'll get no better than a late first round pick, and last year's pick, Earl Clark is 38th in the league in minutes played among rookies.  The good news is that 2008 first round pick Lopez is looking like a keeper and Frye was a nice find, but even Frye is not a sure thing, since he's played well enough to perhaps opt out of his $2M option for next season (you gotta figure he will).  In short, while the Clippers future is certainly difficult to predict, there would seem to be a spot near the top of the Pacific Division up for grabs in the near future.
  • Pick-and-roll defense.  (Keeping this bullet more or less the same from last time, since it still completely applies.)  The Suns absolutely eviscerated the Clippers with the pick-and-roll the last two times the teams have met.  The nuances of pick and roll defense, where to send the dribbler, how to play the screen, how the rest of the team rotates, etc, take a lot of time together and practice.  Three of the nine rotation players for the Clippers have been here for about a week.  Now that I think about it, this could get ugly.
  • Eric Gordon.  I hadn't really noticed the trend, but Milph mentioned it a couple of time recently.  Eric Gordon has not been able to string high scoring games together this season.  Only once all year has he scored 20 or more in back to back games, and that was way back in mid December.  Compare that to last season when he had one streak of six consecutive 20+ games and another of five straight.  He scored 24 Monday against Utah, and tonight would seem to be a good night to break the spell against the liberal Phoenix defense.
  • Movie Quote: 

    A king's time as ruler rises and falls like the sun. One day, Simba, the sun will set on my time here, and will rise with you as the new king.

    Mufasa, The Lion King (1994). Hakuna matata.  ClipperMax turned 14 last week, but when he was a baby we used to watch The Lion King all the time.  At the start of the movie, during the Circle of Life song, I'd hold him aloft as Rafiki held Simba.  Now he's 14 and he only wants to watch The Hangover and I can barely lift him at all.  Sigh.
  • Get the Suns perspective at Bright Side of the Sun

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Too much optimism!

sounds like the perfect recipe for a Clippers letdown.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Mar 3, 2010 10:34 AM PST reply actions  

Ha!

Exactly right.

It’s all about ups and downs. Look at Gordon: no two big games in row all season. The Clips pulled off the hard part, by beating the Jazz. Now they’ll cruise or lose focus somehow and Phoenix will slice right through them.

We know that they can play really well, defend the home court, create a balanced and sustained attack, after seeing them beat a very good Jazz team. We might expect them to do it again, but they will defy that expectation somehow.

by citizen zhiv on Mar 3, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Lies!
Amare Stoudemire will be a free agent and is looking for a big payday that he’s unlikely to get in Phoenix since Robert Sarver is tired of paying the luxury tax.

Amare won’t get the payday he’s looking for b/c he’s not worth the money he wants and the Suns know it. Signing him to a max deal wouldn’t put the Suns over the lux tax anyway.

Suns are also worried about the long term health of his micro-fractured knee. They will extend him three years but not the 5 that he wants.

You all have cap space. Go for it

Blogging Suns Basketball . twitter: @sethpo

by Seth Pollack on Mar 3, 2010 12:21 PM PST reply actions  

The Clips obviously won't

but NYK after they strike out on LBJ? We are in agreement that Amare isn’t worth max money, but I’m sure there is one sucker in the NBA willing to give it to him.

by Michael White on Mar 3, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope not the Knicks

D’Antoni doesn’t want Amare, Amare was the one leading the movement to get rid of D’Antoni.

"What I've achieved now is something that I always figured I would as a kid. I've had that type of determination since I was a youngster playing around the playgrounds, getting dirty after school." - Amare Stoudemire

by Suns R Us on Mar 3, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Big Ben

I forgot that Ben’s deal comes off. Tax or no tax, Sarver is unlikely to spend big on Amare, and I don’t blame him. He certainly doesn’t deserve Max money, but that doesn’t mean he won’t get paid a lot.

This is actually one of the more interesting, less discussed story lines of the summer of LeBron. With 8 teams having max money available, and a few others having lots of cash, who will be the TERRIBLE, CRIPPLING, FRANCHISE-DESTROYING signings of the summer – because there will probably be more of those than there will be of the great signings. Detroit spent on Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva because they could. There are a lot more of those teams this summer.

After LeBron and Wade, I don’t think there’s another player I would say is worth a five year deal starting at $16.6M. In particular, Amare, Joe Johnson and Rudy Gay look like candidates to be massively overpaid. It will be very interesting.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Mar 3, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Dumb question #27

If a team has significant cap space and no star to sign, why would it opt to do as Detroit did? In other words, what’s so wrong with having a low pay roll for a year and trying again the following summer?

Instead of a “franchise-destroying signing,” I’d rather delay having an MLE option and take my lumps for being a cheapstake.

"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT

by SilverClip on Mar 3, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn't that DTS' MO for the past 25 years?

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Mar 3, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

It certainly has been, at least until recently.

And it’s really done some damage. But that’s not my question. I’m wondering what the fallout would be for doing it just one year.

Even Portland seemed to behave like it had to spend the money. They had Bayless and Blake, but they went ahead and signed Andre, seemingly because no one else would take their $. It’s worked out OK, but it was trouble in the beginning of the year. I haven’t done the math, but they might have just played it cool and thought about this year’s free agency instead.

BTW, my question isn’t about Portland either. They’re just another example.

"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT

by SilverClip on Mar 3, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Portland did have to

I’m pretty sure that either Aldridge or Roy’s extensions would have kicked in, thus eating up all of Portland’s cap space this summer. It was use it or lose it for them.

You have to keep in mind that typically players’ salaries go up every year, and next year the cap will go down. So even if all other things remained the same, they would have had less money to spend.

Plus, there’s a huge PR fallout if you just sit on your cap space. You’re basically telling your season ticket holders that you’re punting a whole season but please buy tickets anyway. No way that flies. Fans all know when teams have been hoarding cap space and teams feel immense pressure to follow through on that and actually do something with that cap space. Only Clippers fans would sit around for yet another year (because it happens to us EVERY year).

Not that I agree that teams should do what Detroit did. I’m just throwing out the various factors and pressures. As I said in another thread, if the Clips strike out in a big time FA, I would MUCH rather offer Blake, Outlaw and Gooden good sized 1 yr salaries and go after Melo next summer.

To me, that allows us to retain the same guys and the same Bird rights next summer, and take a crack at a top tier FA one more time.

by madglove on Mar 3, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, good answer

Thanks. I see what you mean about the Portland situation. I didn’t know that. The PR issue of course I’m familiar with, being a Clip fan.

The “good sized 1 yr” contracts would be ideal. If it comes to that, I hope our guys will take them.

"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT

by SilverClip on Mar 3, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Chris Bosh

is worth the max in my opinion. A big PF capable of playing some Center, with monster numbers of 24.5 pts and 11.5 rebounds this year and he’s only turning 26 this month. You pair him with a Lebron or Wade and you only need to fill out the rest of the team with average talent and you can contend.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Mar 3, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

No lies, btw...

Just because Amare wouldn’t put the Suns over the luxury tax, doesn’t mean that Robert Sarver isn’t tired of paying it. So there are zero lies in my statement. You and I are in agreement that Amare is unlikely to get a big payday in Phoenix, and it is true that Robert Sarver is tired of paying the luxury tax.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Mar 3, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Player option versus free agent

Correct me if I’m wrong but Stoudemire is not a free agent yet. Stoudemire has a player option for next year at $17.7 million. So, he could opt for it and stay under contract with Phoenix. Or, he can opt out and become a free agent. It’s his option. Has the best of both worlds, stay with Phoenix if the free agent market is soft or go elsewhere for a long-term deal. Of course, if he stays with PHX and waits until the summer after next, he runs the risk of getting caught up in a lockout. I believe the current players contract is up for renewal 2011-12.

by Mike Wr on Mar 3, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

You answered it yourself...

Seth has written about a million words on this at Bright Side, but the new CBA, and the possibility of a lockout, is the real reason he’ll opt out. Also, he can’t test the waters much without actually opting out. It’s not like he can entertain offers and then say, “No thanks, I’m going to stay in Phoenix and take the $17M” So to get a new long term deal under the current CBA, he’ll opt out.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Mar 3, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Triple Bumble

I’ve been search for a phrase for the dreaded Triple double with 10 turnovers, Steph Curry has come close a few times.

Well done.

by The Blake Griffin Era on Mar 3, 2010 12:36 PM PST reply actions  

Forgot the link

I didn’t coin it, nor even find it. Should have linked and hat tipped citizens John R and penguin35… it comes from basketbawful, and Baron has never actually recorded one, though he’s come close a couple of times this season.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Mar 3, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Home Court Advantage

wonder y we have played so well at home this year. Guys like Simmons and other media people always joke about our fan base and say that nobody shows up to the games, but for some reason the team has played much better at home.

I guess Clipper Daryl deserves the credit?

by The Blake Griffin Era on Mar 3, 2010 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

Used to have one

Back in the early days of Staples, the Clippers had a very nice HCA.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Mar 3, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Fun fact: Clippers are 7-3 when EJ scores 24 or more

The three losses? 1) Portland back in December, when the rest of the team laid an egg. 2)The Cleveland game in January, 102-101 w/o Kaman. 3) Our last Phoenix game, with Kaman out the second half.

I’m not reading much in to this, other than that we tend to do better when EJ does better.

For the record, though, EJ’s average attempts in these games was higher than his season average by more than 2 shots. By the naked eye, I didn’t notice any significant difference in Baron’s and Kaman’s performances (except for Utah, where Kaman shot significantly less).

"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT

by SilverClip on Mar 3, 2010 12:43 PM PST reply actions  

Fun fact

when the Clippers score more points than their opponent, they win.

It stands to reason that the team will do better when their undersized, unable to pass, unable to rebound shooting guard scores a lot of points.

by Michael White on Mar 3, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I had no part in that animated discussion yesterday

I’m more concerned with SP’s point, that EJ hasn’t had back-to-back high-scoring nights this season. It looks like we would have done better, too, if EJ had been more successful. That’s potentially a criticism of him, though I don’t mean it that way. I just want to see him keep attacking.

"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT

by SilverClip on Mar 3, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

That's right.

Simple formula here for conquering the territory. :-)

"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT

by SilverClip on Mar 3, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

is this on Natl TV?

Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"

by Lawler's Law on Mar 3, 2010 3:47 PM PST reply actions  

Not that I know of...

There were a couple of games that were moved off the ESPN sched when it became known that Griffin was out for the year.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Mar 3, 2010 4:30 PM PST reply actions  

If Robin Lopez goes for 30 again, the Clippers will hear it from me.

I’m going to the game. Hopefully, the Clips can keep it competitive. They’ve played pretty well at home, and I think that they can keep it going.

by WestsideBrandon on Mar 3, 2010 5:10 PM PST reply actions  

this is a revenge game

Im starting to hate the suns…I hope we smash em with our home cooking

by JJClipperfan on Mar 3, 2010 6:40 PM PST reply actions  

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