More Larry Brown to Clips talk
"2. Speaking of Charlotte, multiple NBA sources said coach Larry Brown has made preliminary calls to the Clippers to try to line up a position with that organization in case things with Jordan go sideways.
Brown, according to sources, was concerned that George Postolos, Charlotte's would-be owner if Jordan's group hadn't raised the necessary capital, was prepared to clean house, which meant that Brown would have been out. To preserve his position as an NBA coach, Brown reached out to Clippers owner Donald Sterling to let him know that he is open to returning to L.A.
Brown did not return several phone calls seeking comment.
One source indicated Brown was seeking complete control, including the ability to make personnel decisions. Sterling is said to still be enamored with the idea of getting Brown, who coached the Clippers to the playoffs in 1992 and '93. Brown also has a home in Malibu and his wife is said to want to move back there. GM Mike Dunleavy stepped down as coach in early February, and it's possible that Sterling will revamp the entire front office in the offseason.
If that is the case, expect Sterling to have at least one substantive conversation with Brown."
I'd do that in a heartbeat.
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I guess clipcat is going to be torn
Brown is definitely the best case scenario for coaching next year. I would think that having Brown as our head coach would help our chances at getting LeBron too.
LeBron or Bust !!!!
Not really
I don’t want Brown coaching or running the Clips again at all, and I’ve wanted Brown out of Charelotte for some time now, too. He may help the Bobcats squeeze into the playoffs this year, but it will be at the expense of the team’s medium and long term success. IMO he’s set the Bobcats up for a quick decline after he bolts. He knows this, and that may be the real reason he’s still looking at his options even though MJ bought the team.
Clip Cat is the expert here
There’s obviously a lot we don’t know about the current fluid situation. But our faithful correspondent ClipCat knows more about the current status of Larry Brown than any of us. The Charlotte situation seems fairly fluid too. Is the above old news, from before MJ was successful in leading (and being the face of) the ownership change in Charlotte? Wasn’t MJ coming to practice and playing around with guys?
What does the line about “seeking complete control” mean? Is that what caused the severance with Dunleavy? Should Larry Brown be given complete control?
Might I suggest that Clip Cat helps us out with a substantive fan post of his unique and important view of the situation? It’s just one perspective, but it could be very helpful in trying to figure out what might be happening, or what we should be looking and hoping for in the future.
Oops
Wrote the above without reading the substantive comment below. Have to read that, and don’t know if it was written before Dunleavy was severed.
Still like the idea of a Clip Cat fanpost.
To be fair
It sounds like almost all this talk was before MJ bought the team.
Though if the Clips offer Brown complete control, he may bolt regardless.
No way
When was the last time Brown finished a season w/ one team. He’ll bail
"This kid is the best new talent in the league right now, and I don't care who else you mention." -Suns Coach, Alvin Gentry, on Clippers rookie sensation, Eric Gordon.
I don't think Brown will have complete control as long as we have MDsr
now if they work together (as far as personnel changes goes)…we might have a pretty awesome team by the trade deadline or sooner.
We would have the only two coaches to lead this franchise to a winning season (or .500) since the team came to LA
…kinda sad
it’s possible that Sterling will revamp the entire front office in the offseason.
This is one of those instances where I would like to know if the author is expressing opinion or fact. I mean anything is possible. Sterling could decide to be the head coach if he wanted to. But this, I believe, is the first I am hearing that there is an actual chance the Clips will completely axe MDsr.
It is possible
How much do GMs make? Pretty sure MDsr is now the highest paid GM in the league. If DTS can get a 2 for 1 how can he resist? Larry Brown is turning 70 this fall, this GM/Head Coach role could ease him into retirement, as he could transition into the front office. This is obviously a short-term solution, the only head coach I can think of who was 70 was Hubie Brown (who won coach of the year at 71). If we could get two years of Larry Brown, that could make a lasting impression on the Griff and EJ.
FA in 2010.
Doesn't Larry Brown make terrible draft picks?
Or is it Jordan making the picks?
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I think that was MJ's doing
coaches usually don’t get to make the pick, that usually falls to the owner and GM.
LeBron or Bust !!!!
A little of both
Jordan definitely gets the blame for drafting Adam Morrison since Brown hadn’t arrived yet. But Brown made it clear that trading for an extra pick two years ago and then using it to select Alexis Ajinca was his doing. That move cost the Bobcats their 1st rounder this year.
The other draft picks the last couple of years (DJ Augustin, Gerald Henderson and Derrick Brown) haven’t been bad selections, but Brown hasn’t given them consistent playing time even though the Bobcats have a very thin bench. Brown is very much like Dunleavy in his reliance on mediocre veteran players and reluctance to play/develop younger players.
Interesting...
I believe that Brown is the second highest paid coach in the league after PJ. Would Sterling really pay that kind of money for a coach/GM? Of course the good news is that with Brown, you don’t have to worry about signing a long term contract.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
I don't like this move at all.
Larry Brown has been on the downslide since 04-05. The Knicks situation, combined with bringing in Bronze at the Olympics, don’t bode well.
If CHA was in the West, they’d be a non-playoff team. He doesn’t coach young players well at all, and I haven’t even approached the age issue.
He also blows up every team he gets to, ours’ is already blownup, but I believe there is a better coach out there. Phil Jackson keeps jabbing his own players, I’d go all-out for him.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's doing down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Mar 8, 2010 6:58 PM PST reply actions
Also...
I love Dunleavy’s moves as GM, have for a while, and he’s the ONLY man in history to get Sterling to spend. I don’t want him leaving the organization.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's doing down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Mar 8, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
i'm with you
no way i want brown here tearing up this young nucleus.
No Thank You!
Back when Larry Brown coached the Clippers, I became a die-hard Clipper fan who believed Brown was pretty much the greatest basketball coach ever. A lot has changed since then, and the Clippers wouldn’t be hiring the 90’s version of Coach Brown. While he has had a Hall of Fame career and is still very popular in Charlotte (Tar Heel roots help a lot), I do not agree that Larry Brown would be a good coach for the Clippers based on his “acomplishments” during his two years in Charlotte.
1) Rotation – Brown has kept a very tight rotation relying heavily on his starters. This season Gerald Wallace leads the NBA with 42.0 MPG. Stephen Jackson plays 40.3; Boris Diaw logs 35.4 and Ray Felton plays 32.6. None of the centers (Chandler, Nazr, Ratliff and Diop) have been able to stay healthy or productive playing long minutes so they are mixed and matched as needed.
Dunleavy tried a similar strategy early last season, and injuries quickly followed. Charlotte hasn’t had major injury problems under Brown, but last season Charlotte lost 7 out of 8 games in April to miss the playoffs. Could have been coincidince, but the team looked very flat and tired at the end of the year. This year signs of fatigue are already appearing, and another late season collapse would be tough for Brown to explain.
2) Reliance on veteran players – Brown has totally overhauled the roster to create the type of team he wanted, and that team is heavily stacked with veterans. Rufus on Fire (Bobcats blog) includes a line in almost every game review lamenting the lack of playing time for last year’s draft picks, Gerald Henderson and Derrick Brown. Meanwhile, mediocre vets like Stephen Graham and Flip Murray have taken up too many of the limited bench minutes. If you’ve been frustrated with the amount of playing time guys like Tim Thomas, Cat Mobley and Ricky Davis have logged the last few years at the expense of developing prospects, Larry Brown is not the coach for you.
3) Personnel Decisions – The inner workings of the Bobcats front office can be difficult to comprehend with president/owner MJ, GM Rod Higgins and Brown all playing important roles. The exact roles each of them plays in decisions is not particularly well defined, but there are a couple consistent principles. Even before MJ bought the team, he hired just about everyone, usually old friends, and he brought in Brown and Higgins. Brown has major input into all personnel decisions and is the most influential voice as to who plays for the Bobcats.
In that role, Brown has consistenatly made moves that maximized short term value by bringing in vets with long, expensive contracts that fit his system (Boris Diaw, Vlad Radmanovic, Gana Diop, and Stephen Jackson) as well as rentals (Rajah Bell, Juwan Howard, Tyson Chandler, Flip Murray, Stephen Graham, Theo Ratliff and Ty Thomas). As a result, Charlotte has traded away two future 1st round picks and its previous two 1st round selections prior to Brown’s arrival. They dumped Emeka Okafor for future salary cap flexibility, and instead will pay Tyson Chandler, Nazr Mohammed, Gana Diop and Alexis Ajinca a combined $27.6 million next year. As a result, Charlotte will be well over the salary cap before free agency begins this year. Signing both of their own free agents, Ray Felton and Ty Thomas, would almost certainly push them into luxury tax range.
4) Winning – Prior to Larry Brown, the Bobcats were horribly mismanaged by Coach Sam Vincent (aka the Ham Biscuit). At one point, the players locked him out of the locker room at halftime, and Charlotte fans pretty much unanimously called for a new coach. Brown came in and won a whopping three more games than Vincent last year. This year, he’s coaxing another incremental improvement from the team, but the “success” he created is not sustainable. Charlotte will almost certainly decline next year due to its lack of cap space to re-sign even its own players and the lack of development from recent draft picks.
Informative post
You should make this a fanpost
by Michael White on Mar 9, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
Doh!
Now I find out that a fanpost already exists! A big doofus night for zhiv. Happens sometimes when you’re dealing with a disturbance in the force.
Agree 100%.
Good post. Larry Brown is like Bobby Knight——a heck of a coach with lots of baggage. I would never give him full control over a team. If you pair him with an outstanding GM who’s making the personnel decisions with input from Brown, as they did in Indiana when he and Donnie Walsh worked together, you could have a very successful situation. I don’t see them happening in LA. If Sterling wants to shake things up, you hire the GM first and he hires the coach. You don’t hire the coach first.
If you thought CMDSr ran things slow and brutal
I can’t see how you can agitate for Larry Brown.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
Intriguing
Kind of curious about JohnR’s view of these events. Brown and Dunleavy are certainly not interchangeable. But still… all of the ClipCat stuff about short term gains is troubling. Teaming up Boris Diaw and Stephen Jackson with Gerald Wallace seems like an inspired core, and a fun team to watch (and very non-Dunleavy), but I remember CC saying that it would all be so much better if Okafor was still around.
And they are a fun team to watch! They pass, play defense and just about always play hard. As a coach, I do believe Brown has made the most of this season for Charlotte, and he is still a great basketball teacher. If he would stick to teaching and coaching and if he would do that for both his veterans and young players, then I would have a very different opinion about him. He could be a very good coach for a veteran team ready made for his style, but I wouldn’t trust him with a young, rebuilding team like the Clippers.
Asking Brown to stick to coaching is like asking AI to come off the bench. It’s just not realistic, and it’s the “complete control” he’d be seeking that would worry me. He may have helped elevate Charlotte to the level of a playoff contender, but IMO Charlotte was already moving in that direction before he arrived. An “average” coach should have been able to get them to at least the same level of success just by not making some of the trades (especially the Okafor and Diop trades) made the last two years.
Um, there is one small difference
Brown wins.
Not that I’m all that enamored with him here.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
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