Clippers, Dunleavy Sever Ties
My phone just blew up w/ a text from the Clippers. The game was in the 3rd quarter, so it had to be something big I thought. Well, it finally happened...Dunleavy is gone completely and a new era is now fully in place. Maybe this was in an effort to attract potential free agents? Maybe there was some inner turmoil, and/or differences on what the next moves should be. Should be interesting to find out. Either way, we have one of our biggest summers in history coming up, hopefully we can install someone to do the kind of job that we're going to need.
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OOOHHH MYYY WORD!
Many might be happy with this but with our track record outside of dunleavy, I’m scared!! ….scared until we bring in someone with the caliber of a Jerry West or some unanimously league-wide respected up and comer. Man this sucks. Only 5 players on the books this summer and no GM to sign them! I’m not one to panic. But “es no bueno”
by Takebb909 on Mar 9, 2010 5:49 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Gotta agree, man.
I was never a huge CMDSr. fan, but GMMDSr. had done some good things lately. I really think this is a bad move by Sterling. The biggest summer in the past decade for the Clips, and we go into it without an experienced GM. I sincerely hope I eat my words…
I'm with you guys
I thought Dunleavy had the ability as a GM to get things done. He seemed to have things set into place and had somewhat of a gameplan for the off-season. Now I dont really know what to expect…. Another detrimental move by DTS.
by HU on Mar 9, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
Not West
WojYahooNBA
Source close to Jerry West says he wouldn’t consider Clips GM job out of proximity to Lakers, and respect to his pal Elgin Baylor’s lawsuit.
It will be interesting to learn whether there is a buyout
West’s statement is interesting in part because MDSr is intricately involved with Clipper ownership in the charade that underlies hte lawsuit.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
by Jax on Mar 9, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
jerry west thinks his S doesn't smell...
he left the grizz in shambles…
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
I think he's had an ok career
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
by Jax on Mar 9, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
Must Have Been Acrimonious...
…when you read this paragraph from the Clippers statement:
“The organization has determined that the goal of building a winning team is best served by making this decision at this time. The team has simply not made sufficient progress during Dunleavy’s seven-year tenure. The Clippers want to win now. This transition, in conjunction with a full commitment to dedicate unlimited resources, is designed to accomplish that objective.”
Usually, even if it’s a firing, the company says, “thanks to Dunleavy for what he’s done, we wish him the best, blah blah blah.” This statement lays things out quite clearly and bluntly.
wow that is pretty blunt statement
usually statements like this tend to be polite and thank the coach for his time. Well lets see what happens, I’m getting second thoughts about Larry Brown but it seems like that could be the direction we are going. It is going to be an interesting summer to say the least.
LeBron or Bust !!!!
wowow
that quote they showed on tv was pretty brutal
but for them to go through with this is a good step towards a good offseason
HELLYEAHLLUYA!!!!!!!!!!!
I can’t belive they finally did it. They gave Dunleavy the can of Campbell’s soup he always deserved. Now let’s hope they don’t do something stupid like bringing back Larry Brown.
I’d sign Byron instead so we can trade Baron, only because he seems disinterested in playing the right way for us.
well this should quelch any doubts about
DTS being too cheap to pay out Dunleavy’s contract for nothing. Is DTS putting more money were his “mouth is”? ….I’m scared like a kid left alone in a department store.
by Takebb909 on Mar 9, 2010 6:17 PM PST via mobile reply actions
This sucks.
Why now? The team had clear direction going into the summer, and a more than capable GM. This smacks of an idiotic solo Sterling decision. Might as well roll out the mat for Larry Brown.
TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE decision. Poor Dunleavy!
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's doing down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Mar 9, 2010 6:21 PM PST reply actions
Its not a bad move
having a lame duck GM making the long term decisions for the franchise seemed like a really bad decision. If we hire a respected GM and head coach we’ll be fine.
FA in 2010.
He wasn't making any decisions
The whole thing was just a sham – this just makes it official
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
by Jax on Mar 9, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
Either way
he had some input before. He was in a position where he could only cause trouble.
FA in 2010.
If we don't...? We're assed out.
I’m assuming that Clippers do have someone in mind. I’m hoping it is not Larry Brown, but damn if doesn’t look like that could be where we’re headed. I just don’t like the uncertainty. If we were another organization with a legitimate track record of success, then I’d be fine. We’ve seen a great example of how things shouldn’t be done by an Owner, GM, Coach, etc. in the past. That doesn’t leave me with a bunch of confidence.
Let's see who they bring in
if they just keep Olshey in place then we know its a bunch of idle talk. If they go for a star like RC Buford we know they mean business.
FA in 2010.
What are you smokin'
You liked where this team was headed?
"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling
what is the future of this team going to be
is neil oshey legit, who is going to be the coach, will this affect free agency? i want to hear from dts, just left with alot of questions now
We can hire anyone we want
if DTS is serious about opening up his wallet. If we offered enough money I’m sure we could even get RC Buford (of the Spurs) over here. Popovich was their GM for awhile anyways so they could do without him.
FA in 2010.
Simmons ripped the Kings for being stupid enough to draft Tyreke Evans,he is a fool
by southern oregon on Mar 9, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
Actually
A lot of people did. Tyreke really struggled as a PG in Memphis and he’s not a really explosive athlete. A year ago only Blake Griffin seemed like a good star in the making, the rest of the class looked like just decent players. Both Curry and Evans have far exceded any expectations this year.
FA in 2010.
I just cant see how Simmons is even remotely qualilfied,I am suprised that as bad as
He bashes Oden for being an total bust he has not given Griffin the same level of hate
by southern oregon on Mar 9, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
Of course he's not
He’s a freaking comedian. Why not hire Steve Martin?
by Michael White on Mar 9, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
If they hire Bill Simmons I will lose my mind
by Michael White on Mar 9, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
You know what would be worse?
Charles Barkley.
He and Kenny have both stated that they would like eventually become GM’s. I think Kenny would be the more successful out of the 2, but I wouldn’t want either. I love Chuck, but I think he needs to keep doing what he is doing.
Kenny would be believeable at least
Barkley cracks me up but would be a disaster. I think we should bring in Allen Iverson for the trifecta, there’s never been a Player/Coach/GM before.
FA in 2010.
I think...
I think the days of the former star player GM are pretty much over… I really do. You’ll see more and more stat geek GMs a la Kevin Pritchard and Daryl Morey, and the former players will not be the ones that were in the league because they were all stars – they’ll be fringe guys who had to work their asses off just to hang around a roster, for whom part of that was studying tape more and playing smarter than other guys. Joe Dumars is the last of the All Star Players turned GM, and his rep has really gone south.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Mar 9, 2010 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
The worst would be Rick Pitino
or Thomas. I’d take Simmons or Steve Martin over either one of those two any day.
Besides
What super star player would want to be here with Duns history with the team. It’s bad enough we have a name tied with losing. Now all we need are some modern jerseys and we can be the Denver Nuggets. Remember we still have a potential franchise player in Blake.
His run with the team
was still better than the previous runs with coaches. He’s still our 2nd most successful coach in franchise history…
FA in 2010.
That says alot (sub .400)
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
by Jax on Mar 9, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
It still underlines that the organization
has made some improvements. Things were far worse before he came here, that’s indisputable. They aren’t where any logical fan would like but the franchise is by no means did MDsr hurt the Clippers reputation. We were rock bottom, nowhere else to go but up.
FA in 2010.
we were BELOW rock bottom
That’s no frickin lie. We were AYSO. And I LOVE soccer. But were JOKE, not “a” joke or even “the joke”. When you used to look in wikipedia under Joke the first synonym listed was “joke”. I’m glad the days of rooting for Tremaine Fowlkes are over. Keep moving forward.
by Takebb909 on Mar 9, 2010 8:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
We are still the joke of the league
You cant have a 19 win season and come back the next season and terrible again and think we are a respeceted franchsie. Even the Wizards at least had a bunch of playoff runs even if Lebron took them out each year
Everyone is totally down with DTS calling the shots?
WTF?
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's doing down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Mar 9, 2010 6:30 PM PST reply actions
Well DTS has always called the shots
he’s the owner, he can override anyones decisions at the end of the day. The Clips will bring in someone though, I’m starting to warm up to the idea that DTS has a NBA Championship on his bucket list.
FA in 2010.
I'm sure DTS would love.....
…to win a championship. It’s just that he may not have the smarts or the gonads to pull it off. Or to pick the right people to run the team and make it happen. His track record in that regard is atrocious.
DTS Track Record
is that he puts making a buck over really anything else. All this talk of winning could very well be a PR move but he does have the bankroll to make it happen IF he really wanted to. He could lose $50 million a year like Mark Cuban does and it would hardly effect his bank account.
FA in 2010.
He's seen the light
Who knows until it happens (getting a gm and coach) but he might be commited to winning now i’ve read some articles on him. And he’s tired of being a laughing stock of the league. There going to do something big. Something big like when Al Bundy took bud to the nudy bar for his birthday big. The clippers are in the right market where if they make the playoffs every year he will make alot of cash. And may be he see’s that the lakers are on the decline which gives the clippers a chance to be la’s new team when Kobe leaves. We all know la fans are wishy washy
The other shoe
Didn’t see this coming. What finally put DTS over the top? Dunleavy just got finished revamping the roster, clearing space, and putting $$ back in the owner’s pocket. They seemed primed to make a run at a big name.
Say what you will about Dunleavy, but at least his staying on as GM provided some stability..
If LBJ didn’t want to come here before, why would he come here now?
I wonder if this Larry Brown thing has anything to do with this, or if the old Jerry West rumors are real.
Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)
Jerry West ain't coming.
Not only are there Laker Ties, but Elgin Baylor is one of Jerry’s best friends. He wouldn’t “betray” his friend who happens to be in a legal situation with our owner.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
talks
Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)
Ohhhhh, that Camby trade
So in light of this news, I’m wondering again about our motivations for trading with Portland. In my efforts to construe Dunleavy’s moves as scheming and savvy, I have thought that this trade must have been for the purpose of maximizing our offseason options and giving us the best chance to land a big name. The logic was that if the team remained competitive this season (with players we could choose to resign), then we’d look more like a team on the rise, plus our draft pick would likely be more affordable.
But what if that’s just not the case. What if Dunleavy motivations had more to do with self preservation? Perhaps he traded for Blake and Outlaw in order to win as much as possible right now, so as to cover his ass before an impatient owner.
The fact is, we could have gotten some prospects for Camby and taken our lumps with a depleted bench in the short term. But maybe such a sacrifice wasn’t within DTS’s scope of acceptability. The guy may in fact have winning on his bucket list, and he may have the $ to back it up. But I don’t trust his vision at all.
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"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Interesting point
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
by Jax on Mar 9, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
The fact is, we could have gotten some prospects for Camby and taken our lumps with a depleted bench in the short term.
What sort of deal (which prospects), specifically, did Dunleavy turn down in favor of Blake/Outlaw?
A source to this fact would be helpful.
Hmmm, word nuance...
Fair enough, I’ll rephrase: “With Camby’s value, I strongly suspect we could have gotten a prospect or draft pick of some sort.”
I doubt we’ll ever know the real motivations, nor if there were other trade opportunities. So I’m left to speculate.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
We don't know or course...
but my point on the Camby trade all along has been that if Portland was willing to throw in cash, in the form of actual cash as well as the agreement to pick up all of Camby’s bonuses, another team would have thrown in SOMETHING – it seems reasonable. but we don’t know.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Mar 9, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
No other playoff team had such a gaping hole in their starting line-up.
With no true 5, sorry Juwan, Portland was probably the most desperate. Hence, the cash.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's doing down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Mar 10, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
DTS needs to sell the team.
DTS has always been a looser. He needs to be willing to lose money on the Clippers in order to have a chance on consistently winning! Look at Cuban, he is the type of owner the clips need! DTS is already rich, and he needs to start loosing $ with the clips to get
a winning team. Lakers have Buss, and the Clips have DTS – enough said!!!
DTS is never going to sell the team
he is making a profit on the team due to the super low rate we pay at staples. As much as I wish he would sell the team to someone who really cares it is more likely he will die as owner of the team.
LeBron or Bust !!!!
I strongly doubt that
to build a real estate empire he had to leverage the equity in his existing properties. There may not have been a transfer of title but he surely pull equity out. You don’t get to a billion dollars without some leveraging.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Mar 10, 2010 12:24 AM PST up reply actions
On a side note...Sterling is partly responsible for Buss owning the Lakers.
Sterling purchased some of Buss’ apartment buildings which gave Buss enough money to purchase the Lakers, Kings & the Forum. Shortly after, Buss convinced Sterling to invest in an NBA team.
by Lawler 4ever on Mar 10, 2010 1:46 AM PST up reply actions
Yep
You know as friends you would think DTS would have been pretty envious of Buss and tried to field a more competitive team, wouldn’t you feel like a even bigger loser when your buddy is kicking your butt year in and year out? His first 10 years of owning the Clippers were horrible.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Mar 10, 2010 3:52 AM PST up reply actions
I'd have to check but
I suspect that DTS kicks Buss’ (*& in business.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
You'd want to win in everything
especially in something as public as a professional sports team. And yes, I think DTS has more assets than Buss (though the Lakers are worth at least twice as much as the Clippers) and carries no debt.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Mar 10, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
I hope this is just funny
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT













