The Clippers' Second Round Pick
I figure with the draft coming up tomorrow, I have an obligation to say at least SOMETHING about the second round pick. I mean, it's a Clippers blog. If we're not going to obsess about the 54th pick in the draft, then really, who is?
Let's be clear. The odds of the 54th pick being a significant help on an NBA roster are very slim. In the last 25 years, only .0001% of all players picked after 50 have made NBA rosters, which is a stat that I just made up just now, and is clearly not true. But though I don't know what the actual percentage is, I know that it's a small number. If you've forgotten why the Clippers are picking so far down in the second round when they had the 8th worst record in the NBA, I'll remind you that the Marcus Camby trade in 2008 gave the Nuggets the right to swap second round picks. So the Clippers wind up with Denver's slot in the second round, and Denver had the seventh best record in the league. Don't get me started on what the Clippers got from Portland for Camby.
The other thing about picking 54 is that if you have a few different players you're interested in, the good news is that they only have to slip past six more teams and you can sign them as rookie free agents. The 60th player drafted, the last guy in the second round, should really be pissed off if you think about it. Sure, he gets to tell his grand kids that he was drafted in the NBA. But the 61st best player gets to negotiate with whichever of the 30 NBA teams might make the most sense for him. Number 60 is stuck with one team owning his rights - usually the team with the best record in the NBA the year before at that. It's not often that the 60th guy is going to help the best team in the NBA. So he goes to camp, gets cut, and then has to try to hook on with somebody else who's already invested time in their own free agent rookies. Being the 60th pick would pretty much suck.
The Clippers have the 54th pick, not the 60th pick. And of course with only five players currently signed for next season, the guy the pick has a pretty decent chance of making the team, no matter who he is - much better than 54th picks usually have. Let's face it - the Clippers need warm bodies, and they may need them extra cheap if they spend all their cap space on an expensive free agent. So who might they find?
The needs remain pretty much anywhere other than the front court. Depth at any position is going to help, but this late in the draft, there's not really any such thing as 'best player available.' You're playing hunches at this stage, and if you're going to play a hunch, it may as well be where your team needs help.
When I started writing this post, both DraftExpress and NBADraft.net have the Clippers taking the same player 54th - Sherron Collins of Kansas. Now it DX has switched that pick to Jeremy Wise, from Southern Miss by way of the D-League. (The Clippers picked Mike Taylor from the D-League; would they do the same with Wise?) Collins isn't bad I suppose. A point guard is a good choice for need, and Collins is probably as good as any point the team is going to get this late. Personally, if you're going to go with a sub 6 foot point guard, I'd much prefer Jerome Randle of Cal. I think for guys that size, they can be more effective in the NBA if they're scorers - ultra quick game changers who make defenses adjust, rather than just allowing the opposition to exploit the mismatch on the other end. Think Aaron Brooks versus Brevin Knight. I think of Randle as more the Brooks type, Collins as more the Knight type, which frankly I'm not too thrilled with. I'll go ahead and admit that I don't know much about Wise.
If you're looking for clues in who the Clippers had in to workouts, that list includes Randle and Wise as well as Scottie Reynolds and Marquez Haynes among point guards. Odds are at least a couple of those guys will go undrafted, so if the Clippers like them, they could always sign them for summer league.
In a pick this late, I'll tell you the one thing that I would be looking for - shooting. A guy who can shoot the ball with range can help an NBA team, even if they don't do anything else particularly well. In that sense, a guy like Andy Rautins of Syracuse might be worth a flyer. Jeremy Lim Lin of Harvard has gotten some love from the Citizens of Clips Nation, but I have to admit that I know essentially nothing about him (not even how to spell his name, apparently). He's another one that will likely be out there when the draft is all over, so you could always wait and give him a look in summer league.
Unfortunately, the player I really liked in the second round withdrew from the draft at the deadline. Robin Benzing of Germany had one great game in the European championships last summer, but it happened to be the game I watched. In the scenario I constructed in my imagination, he'd get to play with Kaman this summer in Turkey, they'd become fast friends, and together they'd lure Dirk to the Clippers. Alas, Benzing is going to wait another year at least before making the jump. But he appeared to have a monster offensive skill set when I saw him last summer - keep an eye on him in Turkey.
Now there's another European prospect that intrigues me - Russian Alexey Shved. He's got great size for a point guard at 6'5", and came up through the best club team in Russia, CSKA Moscow. Unfortunately he never got a chance to play much for CSKA, who loaned him to cross town Dynamo this season where Shved finally got some burn and put up solid numbers. The success of guys like Beno Udrih and Goran Dragic has me convinced that European point guards can play in the US - and Shved is still only 21 years old. He may be off the board by 54, but if he's still there, he's the player I'd take.
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Da Sean Butler
good talent for the #54 pick. If he can play to some level before he got injured, 2 years with low pay would be a bonanza for the Clips.
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No way
De sean Butler has 1st round talent and will never be down that far on the draft board, injury or no injury
no thanks guys
DeSean Butler can’t shoot. I don’t mean, he’s not a good shooter. I mean, in an empty gym, with no one guarding him, he can’t make 15 footers. I’m talking, he makes Corey Brewer look like JJ Redick. Now he’s got the ACL injury. So you’ve got a guy whose NBA calling card was that he could guard anybody from the 1 to the 4 (I must say, I was very impressed with his defense on Isaiah Thomas in the WVU-UW game) but who is a terrible offensive player. And now he has a knee injury which may effect his lateral movement and explosiveness? Sorry, he’ll be undrafted.
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by Steve Perrin on Jun 23, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
He can't shoot
You can’t IQ the ball into the basket. He makes Quinton Ross look like Ray Allen.
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by Steve Perrin on Jun 24, 2010 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Steve...
I think you have him mixed up with Devin Ebanks.
De’Sean Butler shot over 35% from behind the arc during college.
http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/b/butleda01.html
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by ClipperChuck on Jun 24, 2010 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh crap...
You’re right. It’s Ebanks who can’t shoot at all. However, I’m not too high on Butler either. He’s not nearly as bad as Ebanks shooting the ball, but he’s not nearly good enough to be an NBA SF either. And he’s not the defender Ebanks is.
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by Steve Perrin on Jun 24, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Butler is solid
I think he can be a decent bench player. Reminds me of CDR or Sam Young. For a late 2nd rounder if the draftee can even stick on the team for a couple of seasons would be a qualified success.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Jun 24, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Lance Stephenson
From what I’ve read he’s been holding he own in 1:1 workouts against supposed first round talent.
Which is why...
He won’t be around when the Clippers are drafting at 54. NBADraft.net actually has him in the first round at 25 at this point.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jun 23, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Goodness
He really shot up. He was initially projected in the second round.
by yaggiefresh on Jun 23, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it Lin or Lim?
Did I get it wrong?
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by Steve Perrin on Jun 24, 2010 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Lin...i like his game...
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by Lawler's Law on Jun 24, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
He's taiwanese
Not sure if his family is from China or if they were the Aborigines. If his surname was Lim he’d most likely be Vietnamese.
Pretty interesting kid, he didn’t get a single scholarship offer in D1 even though he was a star HS player and led his HS to a state title over perennial powerhouse Mater Dei.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Jun 24, 2010 1:39 AM PDT up reply actions
scottie reynolds can shoot
but he can’t play pg. he’s also too small to be a 2-guard.
i really like his game though IMO
... we sittin here talking about practice. not a game, not a game.
Jerome Randle
I’ve actually followed his career pretty closely b/c my roommate is a Cal grad, and I can tell you right now that Randle won’t make it in this league. He’s a lights out shooter but he has virtually no playmaking skills. He’s absolutely not a real PG.
I think the biggest problem for him though is that he’s so small that he can’t finish at the rim. The times when he breaks his man down and penetrates, he has a hard time getting his shot off. That forces him to rely too much on his jumper and he ends up taking some really bad shots (from really far away).
I love Randle’s toughness and swagger, but he’s tailor made to play overseas where he’ll actually be able to use his speed against lesser athletes and the guys he’s going up against won’t be quite as big or fast.
I hope they buy a higher 2nd round pick
I think picks are for sale and it’d be worth taking a high 2nd rounder to add some much needed depth on our team.
Agreed
Use that Paul Allen money and buy a pick. Not going to happen, though.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jun 24, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Here's a picture of Paul Allen giving DTS some change (for a billionaire)

Just like the homeless in South Park, DTS forgets you gave him change immediately after getting change. What money?
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Jun 24, 2010 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Aren't early second round picks really valuable?
Its pretty much just late first round talent that you can sign for however much you want, right?
Idon’t understand why teams just give away picks like that.
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, I'll hope for Greivis Vasquez, even though it'll never happen! lol
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
That's who I'd want if the Clips had their original 2nd round pick
But he might even be gone earlier than that.
Alexey Shved
On the surface, he sounds like a solid prospect. Maybe he could become the new Marko Jaric. But if he’s legit, then some team with strong international scounting like SA will probably grab him just ahead of us. His CSKA web page lists him at 6’6" and 185 lbs. That’s Shaun Livingston skinny!
I actually think Randle goes to the Lakers in the 2nd round. Perfect replacement for the triangle at point guard.
And, in a weird way, I hope the Clippers take a chance on either Thomas Heurtel, Alexey Shved, or Nemanja Bjelica.
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Greivis Vasquez or Jerome Randle..
Total opposite players in size and their game.. But I think either one would be a good fit as a bigger/ playmaking gaurd next to EJ or the speedy/ change of pace PG behind Baron that can hit shots…

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