Draft Open Thread
by Steve Perrin on Jun 24, 2010 1:53 PM PDT
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PrintI'll be heading to Playa Vista soon and wanted to get this out there before I leave. There's really too much information out there right now to stay on top of all of it. It's bad enough that there are draft rumors to follow, but now we've got various salary dumps by the major free agency players to keep track of as well (Miami trying to squeeze in three near max players, Chicago dumping Hinrich to get to two). We'll have some time to focus on that next week, between the draft and the start of free agency. Let's just get through the draft today.
I went to Playa Vista a year ago for no apparent reason. It was a foregone conclusion that the Clippers would draft Blake Griffin, and they didn't even have a second round pick. So why was I there?
This year there will be a little more intrigue. The first seven picks will obviously determine who is available for the Clippers, and they could end up with a very difficult decision. When I get to Playa Vista, I'll share a quick story I heard today from a former Wake Forest faculty member and huge Demon Deacons booster about Aminu (hint, he's not a fan). But I think it's going to come down to AFA, Greg Monroe or Gordon Hayward, as I said Monday. Lisa Dillman of the LA Times included Luke Babbitt on the Clippers radar. Sorry Paul George fans, I don't think that's happening, nor is Xavier Henry.
I started a little discussion about the second round pick yesterday as well. As little as we know about the first round pick, we know about a thousand times less about the second rounder. The Clippers could end up picking someone we've never heard of. For now, focus the draft discussions on this thread, even if it's a comment directly about one of the other posts.
Discuss among yourselves. I'll be back shortly.
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Chad Ford Chat Today
James (Dallas, TX)
Is Aminu to the Clippers the most sure-thing pick outside of the top 5? There seems to be a very strong consensus that it will happen.
Chad Ford
(12:32 PM)
Not as sure as some are making it out to be. I know they like one other mystery player there at 8. I’ve heard it may be Luke Babbitt. But yes, they like Aminu a lot and he seems like a pretty good fit long-term for the Clippers.
Chad Ford Chat Today
Chaderack (Long Beach, CA)
Hey Mr. Ford, Why are you such a douche Bag!??
My pick is out, Paul George
I just wanted to draft a guy who said “i’ve always wanted to be drafted by my favorite team, the clippers”. This happens less than an eclipse.
Doesn't mean anything
at the end of the day, players like winning and hate losing. Winning makes everyone happy and losing makes everyone miserable and depressed. Playing for a favorite team isn’t going to change that and wont make them into a better or worse player.
Believe me he the Clips wont be his favorite team if we keep on losing year after year.
by dulciusXasperis on Jun 24, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus, who freaking cares?
My favorite team is the Clips. I HATE the Lakers.
I’m ready to be drafted now thanks.
You may be taken 54th MG!
Bingo! Oh me oh my!
by ClippersUK on Jun 24, 2010 2:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
One of those links ought to work when the draft starts.
If neither work, still go to those sites and there should be others available.
by Lawler 4ever on Jun 24, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
AFA is the obvious pick...trade down otherwise
No George or Hayward or any other pick that screams bust.
Now of course if they trade down and acquire two picks, then it makes more sense to go for a guy like Hayward or George.
I’m interested to hear what your former WF faculty member has to say. Regardless, I’ll take what the overwhelming number of experts say, and that’s that AFA is the obvious pick here.
LET'S DO THIS!!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
If Monroe slips to us
I’d take him over Aminu. I don’t want any part of having a small forward that can’t stretch the floor.
I would take Monroe before AFA too but I just see him dropping past Detroit
Bingo! Oh me oh my!
by ClippersUK on Jun 24, 2010 2:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yahoo!
Clippers want Aminu
The Los Angeles Clippers have entertained offers for the No. 8 pick, but if Wake Forest forward Al-Farouq Aminu is still on the board they plan to take him, barring an unexpected drop from someone in the draft’s top six.
– Marc J. Spears, 1:55 p.m. ET, June 24
That’s about what I expect. It’s safe. I like the pick. If he’s not there they plan on trading down. Seems like a fairly solid strategy to me.
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN radio (710, I believe)
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I guess this thread gets all the rumors:
WojYahooNBA: Pacers and Nets discussing trade to send package including Danny Granger and 10th pick for Devin Harris, Yi and No. 3 pick, sources tell Y!
It just confirms that Granger (if this rumor is true)
was nowhere near as off limits as some thought
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
The Pacers would trade up to third spot to draft Derrick Favors. No deal imminent, and source says Nets interest is “lukewarm” on it.
I'm guessing the interest is lukewarm
because it means no Lebron.
Stupid. NJ could have the easy double, instead could end up striking out while swinging for the homerun.
A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.
Feel free to add on any other metaphors.
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Never piss into the rain
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They wouldn't have a PG
I’d rather keep Harris if I was them. This however is all about clearing enough cap space to offer 2 max contracts.
What are the numbers here?
$(Yi + Harris + 3rd pick) > $(Granger + 10th)
Probably true. NJ would be getting a stud AND cap space.
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The prob with NJ and NY...
Who’s taking their cap space? They’re long shots for the top 3 FAs.
I guess if they think they can get Amare or Boozer, then trading Favors for Granger makes sense.
But who plays the point?
Can you dribble?
Tell NJ you’ve always loved them, and they’ll take you at 10. I just feel it.
This clearing-cap-space thing is starting to feel like a reckless poker game. Somebody’s gonna get caught with empty purse.
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You and I have been warning about that since last years deadline
and our love for Caron Butler.
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Who would play pg for the Nets?
Draft Bledsoe at 10?
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A laugh, and then... Hmmmm
Somehow, I see CP3 creeping back into the discussion.
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You know me.
I only trade our current PG if I have an eye on a replacement. Meaning Paul, or even more far-fetched and slower developing plan in Rubio.
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha
Is getting CP3 MORE likely than getting Rubio?
If that’s the case they should focus 100% on CP3.
And then we will trade Kaman for Duncan!
Actually, I really don’t know what to make of the Paul thing. For all the chatter recently, I don’t see NOH as too eager to trade him. They’ll want some lopsided deal in their favor since their backup plan is having Chris Paul play point guard for them.
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't get it either. They want cap space and hot, cheap prospects...
I don’t know exactly how to arrange it. What if we give Baron to NJ and Kaman to NOH. We take CP3 and Okafor. Then NJ gives NOH something good… errr, this and next year’s draft pick? We could throw in the Minni pick as well.
For CP3, NOH gets Okafor’s multi-year contract off their hands for a better center (same price, fewer years), plus 3 first rounders.
I think we end up chewing up about $2M in cap space, but hell, what a pg!
NJ would probably still have space to offer 1 max contract. Granger and Baron and Lopez… nothing to scoff at.
This idea is all of 5 minutes old… Aw, what the hell.
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Three way trade between NJ, NO, and LA
Davis to the Nets, CP3 to us. The rest of the details to be determined…
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From Truehoop
Peter Keating revisits the D.R.A.F.T. Initiative developed by Jordan Brenner and Tom Haberstroh. Keating adds: “[K]eep an eye on Al-Farouq Aminu. He’s from Wake Forest, the school whose players have most surpassed draft-day expectations. He’s a sophomore, the best-producing class among early picks. And he’s one of the top small forwards in a draft top-heavy guards and big men, so a team that grabs him around No. 7 or 8 could get great value.”
Whats the chances Oshley does something amazing?
Like somehow get us the 3rd or 4th pick so we can get Wesley Johnson or make some epic trade for an epic superstar.
http://bcnbatalk.wordpress.com/ - Scoops on Hoops!
Errr
I’m not so sure. He’s like the guy you don’t really know who suddenly tries to lead the fast break.
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I like how he didn't get muddied by the Deng deal. What a GM!
If he does something in the next hour, I’m going to reflexively scream. Then I’ll check out what it is.
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Blah, and caffeinated to boot. :-)
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Good one
That’s it exactly. Step back and set it up. Get it to a ballhandler.
There’s no way he’s as scary and exciting as Kaman heading out on the break though. The inimitable K.
by citizen zhiv on Jun 24, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
U-tube anywhere?
Gotta check out the Kaman charge.
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http://espn.go.com/espn3/index/_/sport/basketball
figured it out myself
hmmm....
why is aminu such a better long term fit than let say george, henry, and babbitt?
how so?
aminu has no outside game….as of right now, he seems more fit to play power forward than small forward. He does have a great defensive game and transition game but when you have guys like Griffin and Kaman getting doubled, you need shooters to hit shots and spread the floor. So tell me y aminu is a better long term fit?
Why is Griffin getting doubled?
He doesn’t have a post game yet.
Long term, a 19 year old in Aminu can learn to shoot. He’s already an athlete who can defend, rebound and run the floor. Basically, he’s already a rotation wing now. He learns to shoot and he’s a legit starting SF.
I do like Babbit. Henry is not a SF and not better than Gordon at SG. George didn’t dominate the crap WAC, why do you think he would have a better showing in the NBA?
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
skill sets
guys dont come into the league and become legit perimeter threats. If you have noticed, shooters are always shooters and those who arent, might get a decent mid range game but very rarely become great outside shooters to spread the court. All the other guys have the skills to shoot the ball from 3 very well. I’m not saying aminu cant become a shooter at all, but he is really going to have to fight the odds to be able to be a great shooter. The question I have is why would a slasher be a better fit than a shooter when we have both kaman and griffin already in the middle?
I already answered your last question
Griffin is not a post threat yet. There’s no reason to factor him into your analysis for next year or the year after. There’s also no reason to pair Aminu with Kaman. Kaman has 2 years left, we hope Aminu is hear much longer. We aren’t drafting in 1 year increments.
SF’s who can run and defend and rebound are valuable in this league. Writing off a 19 year old as a poor shooter who will have a hard time improving is not something I can sign off on.
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Lane clogging? Post threats?
I still think we’ll be much more of a transition team than a half-court team. Not that it’s a particularly good plan, but it’s just likely what’s going to happen. Whoever we hire as head coach is probably going to be want to be on the same page as Baron, and we all know how stubborn Baron can be.
Has Baron ever gotten along with a coach?
The hilariously bad Kim Hughes experiment last year might be a reason not to try to do the same thing.
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
No thank you
Baron has his faults but he still can be a very useful PG in this league. Oh, and we have nobody who could replace him.
I think with Baron you need a strong coach. Baron was playing well and buying into MDsr’s system when it was working (basically that week when they played out of their minds good last year.) An engaged Baron who plays defense is a lot of fun. He doesn’t need to “run” to be succesful.
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Whether or not he needs to run to be successful is beside the point
He has a reputation for wanting to run. He has publicly said he wants to run. I would still guess that we’ll hire someone who’ll be on the same page as Baron in that way. Otherwise, the coach has to prove that his offensive system works for Baron to want to play hard. If he outright says, “Baron, I want you to run,” then Baron’s already given it a thumbs up. I’m sure I’m over-simplifying things, but I also don’t think it’s all that complicated in the minds of the Powers That Be.
And on a side note, Kim Hughes isn’t exactly as talented a coach as Don Nelson or Mike D’Antoni.
Not really
First of all, Hughes had ZERO head coaching pedigree. The only thing his tenure showed was that hiring career assistants in the middle of a lost season won’t change the w-l record for that year.
Plus, Hughes realized they couldn’t run b/c they weren’t in good shape. Which speaks to the players’ and the kind of training camp Dunleavy held.
If they brought in a coach with a real fast breaking system from day 1 and that coach was able to push his players to get into better shape, then it could certainly be successful. But trying to change systems in the middle of a season is dubious.
Hmm Not sure I agree with that
How can you NOT factor Griffin into your analysis? He’s the one guy you should factor into any analysis for the Clips.
You need to build the team around him.
My whole thing is that I don’t see why Aminu and Griffin can’t play together. Since when is it a bad thing to have front court players who are long, athletic, crash the boards and bust their butts? Griffin NEEDs a guy like Aminu so he’s not the only one killing himself every night. And with two guys like that, it will help motivate the rest of the team.
Plus, both Griffin and Aminu are agile and athletic enough to be able to spread the floor overall. It’s not like either are plodding bigs who can only be effective when you walk it up and throw it into the post.
Ya, I didn't mean that
But I see that it reads that way.
I’m saying that you need to look at what Griffin will be (and Aminu will be) in 2 years when they start hitting their stride. Not limiting to the analysis to next year or two (which I was I thought the poster was doing.) That’s what I was trying to say anyway.
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm liking a future of EJ, AFA and BG but I've got a horrible
feeling that he is going to be taken before 8 tonight.
Bingo! Oh me oh my!
Watching ESPN
Had a little mock draft counter going on the bottom of the screen, had AFA going 7th. Had us picking Udoh
by dulciusXasperis on Jun 24, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I will go on record as saying their is no chance in hell they take Udoh.
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Lol. Who ARE you?
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More comment on AFA: Clipper rebounding
Why is he a better long term fit? Rebounding, defense, athleticism, size.
The Clips have been suffering badly from the lack of rebounding at the SF position. And Eric Gordon is a fine defender, but he needs to rebound much better, to say the least. When you see Westbrook and Rondo secure rebounds it’s clear that Gordon is not coming close to carrying his load in that respect.
As far as SF poor rebounding recent history, it goes something like this: Maggs would have been a much better and more valuable player if he just rebounded consistently, and if he was focused on defense, but he didn’t have that mindset. QRoss defended well and did his best to contribute, including on the boards, any way he could, since he was never able to score, but he was undersized. Thornton rebounded poorly in a manner similar to Maggette, only worse. R. Butler is hardly a rebounder, and his defense was not as good as expected. Even the late addition Outlaw rebounded poorly. For that matter, Craig Smith didn’t provide much help on the boards.
Camby covered up for a lot of bad rebounding, but that’s not the way you want things to go. In the games they won, led by Rondo, the Celtics showed the value of an entire team rebounding aggressively. They had to, because the Lakers—the Clips in-house competition—are beasts on the boards.
Griffin is going to go a long way towards solving this problem, leading by example. Kaman rebounded a little better after Camby left, but his relatively lackluster rebounding over the course of the season cost him a few notches in his evolution (did we ever determine Kaman’s final rating? was it 3.0? 2.8? 3.3?).
Is Aminu the best SF rebounder/defender/athlete available to the Clips? Does Hayward have the effort and craftiness to be a better pick, or is he a bust? From what I can tell—and others are looking at all of this more closely—Aminu is the safe, solid, nicely complementary pick. That’s why SP took him in the SBN draft.
Which raises the reverse mojo element…
by citizen zhiv on Jun 24, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
zhiv is back
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Clipper Draft Day
Where else would I be?
But I know what you’re saying: the mindless rambling smacks of days gone by. I’m a beaten down Clipper fan: aren’t you? It’s tough. Like I said earlier today, it’s strange to put the lottery armor on one more time, breathing the fires of hope to life.
You should notice that Mikey P has been doing some high quality work, keeping track of that tennis match amongst other things.
Right now it’s all about
by citizen zhiv on Jun 24, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
what happened to the rest of that comment?
weird. oh well.
by citizen zhiv on Jun 24, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
In EJ's defense...
I think his rebounding woes have a lot to do with having small hands… watching Westbrook and Rondo get boards this year in the playoffs against the gigantic Lakers, most of those boards were one-handed. I just don’t think EJ can do that. He’s also way farther out on the perimeter than either of those guys.
That said, Jason Kidd is about 100 year old, doesn’t have big hands, and fell in love with the 3 this past year in Dallas. EJ really needs to step it up.
Well, we’ve still got an hour until the draft. We can show him the error of his ways :)
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea
I really haven’t gotten anything done at work all week haha… if I get a bad performance eval, can I blame you guys?
Uh, keep holding your breath
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lol
let’s just trade up and get Wall
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It is spelled B-U-S-T
There’s no “e” or “a” in bust.
by Lawler 4ever on Jun 24, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting Note
It is interesting to compare the Clippers fan experience in this draft versus last year. In the previous year, everyone seemed to believe Griffin was going to the Clippers. Only the Clippers could change that. There was not too much anxiousness at draft night.
This year we have both a first and 2nd round pick and a ton of uncertainty. We have to wait 7 nail biting picks to make sure all the nice options are still available at the 8th pick. Also, with the huge free agency looming, there will be a ton of player movement. Overall, this should be an exciting night for NBA fans.
by ClipperTheorist on Jun 24, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, that crazy Wimbelton match is over
The US guy won the fifth set, 70-68. Now I know we’re all dreaming.
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My buddy tuned in for the last POINT.
He has the new record: Tiniest fraction of viewing a classic.
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The guy that lost took a shower...
and then went back to the same court and played a doubles match.
That’s amazing.
Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)
no shit... Sore legs?
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We will know within about 30 days how good a GM Oshey is.
- Draft Selection
- Free Agent Negoatiation
- Coach Selection
If he bombs out, we could see a new GM by September. LOL……
Now things speed up
We are a week away from July 1st and 2 weeks from July 8th (these 2 weeks mark the points when contracts with free agents can become official). Player movement will accelerate and rumors will spring up from all over the place. Once the draft is over, hopefully we will hear about a new coach (or maybe that will have to wait till after the big free agency race).
by ClipperTheorist on Jun 24, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
From all the rumors, guess Paul George is out the window....
I’m sad
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 3:52 PM PDT reply actions
In 4 years...
… it’s going to be really interesting looking back at all our thoughts about the small forwards in this draft. I know i’ll go back and review the discussions..
Why doesn't free agency happen before the draft?
Wouldn’t that make more sense?
If it did
You’d be asking for it the other way
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Rumors of Beasley headed to Minnesota for Ryan Gomes.
If New Jersey takes Favors, could we end up taking Johnson?
Run down how the picks would work for that
I don’t see it….
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends on Sac
How much do they like Cousins?
I can’t see GSW or Det taking Wes Johnson. Both teams need bigs.
Was – Wall
Phi – Turner
NJN – Favors
Min – Cousins
Sac – Monroe
GSW – Udoh
Det – Davis
LAC – Johnson or Aminu
Now that would be best case scenario, but it could be possible based off of leanings/promises.
by Lawler 4ever on Jun 24, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Well that would be something
I still find the idea of Udoh as a top 10 player pretty funny.
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
That'd be why I forgot about him :P
I really hope this draft surprises me… it’s more fun that way. Like when Minni grabbed all those PGs last year. That was hilarious.
Sac could take Aminu
then GSW and Det might divvy up Monroe and Davis
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Could, but I think a big is much more of a need.
After this season they’ll have Thompson as a big. They’ll still have Casspi, Greene & Garcia on the wing.
by Lawler 4ever on Jun 24, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
They may keep him, he'll be an UFA next summer though.
by Lawler 4ever on Jun 24, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Wesley is a stretch either way
maybe Sac isn’t high on Monroe, or something.
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He'd have to fall farrrr..
Only way I see that happening:
WAS Wall
PHI Turner
NJN Favors
MIN Cousins (assuming they trade away Al Jefferson.)
SAC Davis (uhhhh…?)
GSW Monroe (Possible. Possible.)
DET Aldrich (I’m pretty much making stuff up now.)
LAC Johnson (lol)
You're forgetting Aminu
He might go 5th (or 6th)
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John Wall reminds me of Antonio Daniels.
Fast, athletic, long, but thats pretty much it.
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 4:09 PM PDT reply actions
lol They're showing his highlights
Am I the only one watching the draft preview??
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m at the office. It is 4:15 on a Thursday
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Well its summertime.
And high schools done for me. Now my attention goes to everything Clipper related…
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Um um…
{pushes papers together to act like working}
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
yup
I know what I’m gonna be doing for the next 5 hours
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Hell yeah, let's draft him for a 2nd time! ;)
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 24, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
From a basketball scenario, that would be an excellent result (you can’t exactly project any draft pick to be a 20 PER player.)
But again, Zbo wasn’t nearly as heavy after his freshman year of college at MSU.
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
blazersblog: KP fired, according to @jwquick: http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2010/06/kevin_pritchard_fired_as_trail.html
They wanted him to do all the prep work for the draft first
then they canned him and are going to steal his notes.
That’s jerky.
Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)
Was just going to post this
He won’t be out of work long.
LOL
KP fired an hour before draft. Hired by the Clippers 10 minutes before draft.
by Lawler 4ever on Jun 24, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Good to know The Donald isn't the only crazy/idiotic owner in the league.
This is much worse than announcing MDSr.’s firing on the road in ORL. An hour before the draft? Pure class.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's doing down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Jun 24, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I think today is his last day
Still messed up though
I sure hope by next year im not sitting at home wondering who we are going to draft.
This is getting ridiculous! LOL
Save us the visuals
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I like a lot of the players that we could draft, I won't be disappointed easily
Aminu – great defense, rebounding
Hayward – playmaker, point-forward
Babbitt – great shooter, good size
George – good shooter, tons of upside
If we draft Greg Monroe, that would be cool with me, I think he’d be the BPA at that point.
Say no to: Aldrich, Ed Daivs
True... Lots of salvageable options
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
What about tanking?
it was all good fun winning against the Lakers and all i really don’t support tanking. But, right now with all the draft buzz… teams that lost two and three more games than us are drafting at nr one and two…
I always wondered if Philly was tanking.
There was way too much talent on that team to have that kind of record.
Pritchards still running the draft!!
chadfordinsider Pritchard will still be running the draft per Quick. He should select Omar Samhan at 22 before Paul Allen can stop him.
+1!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 24, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously
What a weird situation. Couldn’t they have fired him a little later, or a little earlier?
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
espn again does not mention the clippers as a potential destination for lebron.
at least they didn’t mention the nets. I would have gone nuts
Wait wait wait...
Yes they did! They said “Clippers” once, and “Clips” once. They were saying that we weren’t interested in making room for a second star. Then they started talking about the Nets.
I don't believe it
Did you get it on tape? Someone upstairs must have slipped up.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
if you were LBJ why would you want to play for the Clips when you could get the same monies to play elsewhere?
Endorsements
Max contracts aside, players like LBJ make their real money outside the league. We can offer a lot more extracurricular opportunities than a team like Cleveland can. Plus, we have the talent.
We also have an a-hole for an owner and a losing history, but it’s most definitely not a money thing.
Do you think that guarantees a championship though?
Any more than Baron, EJ, Blake Griffin, & Chris Kaman?
I mentioned him earlier :P
I don’t think we have a legit chance, but we have more of a chance than some of the teams that get air time.
Why would they?
Stern’s already told them where he will end up.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
If we draft Hayward, there better be a deal for Granger in the works!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
5, 4, 3, 2, 1.. let's do this!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
seriously
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Do we really have to wait the 5 minutes for the Wiz??
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 4:34 PM PDT reply actions
LOL.. Maybe they'll pick Cousins with #1!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 24, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The Wizards like the National attention
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 4:35 PM PDT reply actions
how does that work?
wat if some team is a jerk and backs out the last minute ahaha
so we have to wait at least 40 miuntes for our pick?
I want dinner dammit!!!
by dulciusXasperis on Jun 24, 2010 4:36 PM PDT reply actions
Can't eat, man
That’ll F up everything
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Especially when you throw up when we take Aldrich
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Its okay
I hear the Pistons are now interested in him. They miss Darko
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
wait is that early?
well anyhow I missed lunch so I’m bloody hungry lol
by dulciusXasperis on Jun 24, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I want to sleep
It’s half past one in the morning over here
oh man that sucks lol
hold out another half hour then crash
by dulciusXasperis on Jun 24, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Stop doing this
Alot of us are following along only by the thread.
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
John Wall @ #1.. No surprises yet! LOL
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Wait... not Aldrich?
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
ET or Favors @ #2?
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
What's the Vegas line?
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
I dunno? Probably 1-1 for ET?
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 24, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN radio
They’ve already hinted that they don’t intend on suiting up Arenas. Apparently, they are going to look for other options.
I can see Arenas to the Warriors
for Ellis and Biedrins
Warriors are trying to build around Curry though.
I have no idea who would take on that contract. The Warriors certainly would do something like that…
Arenas would be perfect at GS
Then they’d just have to draft Kwame Brown.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
me too.. my favorite part of watching this.
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 24, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
ET @ #2!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
WojYahooNBA : Nets have decided to keep 3rd pick and will draft Derrick Favors, source tells Yahoo! Sports. They’ve turned down several offers today.
Woj
Breaking a story 5 minutes before it becomes part of the historical record.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jun 24, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Learn to embrace the twitter Steve
and you too can break the story 5 minutes before its official.
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
No surprises yet. Which pick does it start to get interesting?
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 4:44 PM PDT reply actions
Probably around 5 or 6
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 24, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
A playmaking big guard
whose not the most athletic, but is crafty. His jumper isn’t bad either.
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey guys
I posted my AFA, Wafe Forest professor story a few minutes ago. If you’re interested. Also, let me know if this thread starts bogging down and I’ll open a new one.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Hey Steve..
What’s the atmosphere like over there? So far so good?
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 24, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a little weird
Last year they had us set up in the actual training center – i.e. on the basketball court. Of course they had to cover the floor etc. This year we’re in the media area outside the basketball court, which is really just a hallway with table tops on one side. So there’s 20 or 30 reporters here crowded around one tv. I got here pretty early and got a spot right in front of the tv…. but now that the sound is turned up, I’m getting blasted by Stuart Scott directly into my brain. Ouch.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jun 24, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
It's Al Thorton all over again
but instead of picking him at 14 we get him at 8. I hope your friend is wrong….
by dulciusXasperis on Jun 24, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
btw
You’ve made me a Hayward fan these last couple of weeks
by dulciusXasperis on Jun 24, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup
White shirt, bald spot. Eric Pincus is to my left.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jun 24, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
In football
The next team in line is basically allowed to run up to the podium to get their pick in for you.
A few years ago that happened and 6 teams ran up before the original team finally got their pick in.
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Favors @ 3
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Come on Wolves take Cousins
Let wes johnson drop to the clips
LOL.. Who knows!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 24, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Johnson is next
Kings take Cousins
Warriors take Udoh
Pistons Monroe
We take Aminu, but I hope I’m wrong.
I'd prefer a shooter
I want a guy that knows how to play the game and can stretch the floor for Griffin and Kaman.
Babbitt, Hayward, or George.
And how do you know George
“knows how to play the game”?
I mean, what is that statement based on? He certainly knew how to underperform against mediocre competition.
I'd defend Aminu if he was already drafted by us.
We can criticize Aminu if he’s already gone
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Johnson @ #4
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
this is where it gets interesting
some have Udoh, some have Cousins, some have Monroe, who knows what the next 3 picks will that will determine out fate.
Cousins or Monroe for SAC?
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Same here
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 24, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Please don't take Aminu!!!!
Sacramento
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 4:56 PM PDT reply actions
I dont know how the GSW will draft
they love the SFs
and Detroit.
So yeah, I pretty much mean everone before us :)
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to worry
they’re ALL going to take Aldrich
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
yep
see if cousins fell futher than anyone thought because of his attitude. I think the latest was the Kings liked Cousins though so i’m expecting him to go here. I think his floor has to be w/ joe dumars and the ‘bad boy’ pistons.
Yeah.. hopefully some interesting trades happen soon
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 24, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Casting our fate to the basketball gods...
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Cousins or Monroe
Sacto had such a nice run with Vlade passing out of the high post… I could see them going with Monroe.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
I want Monroe to fall to us! Who am I kidding? We wouldn't pick him anyway.. LOL
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 24, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Cousins
I think Tyreke Evans’ dominating presence will either clash with Cousins, or it will provide him some of the familiar stability that he got from John Wall. If I were GM, I’d play it safe and take Monroe.
Watch out strip clubs in Sactown
Cousins and Evans are on the prowl
Cousins to the Kings!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Evans and Cousins could turn out to be very scary in the future
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 5:01 PM PDT reply actions
I was just going to post that
Extremly scary…
Draft Express is 5 for 5
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Aminu
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 24, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
They have Udoh to Warriors next
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 24, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
The guy is going around the green room talking to to the people
The final update was just after Wall was selected but I guess that’s not cheating
I miss Barkley announceing.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
And we wanted Paul George.
Thats not who we are gonna get though. Udoh! Udoh!
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Worst case right now...
Aminu and Monroe are the next two picks. Honestly, that’s not that bad of a “worst case.”
not at all
more concerned we just do something stupid lol
by dulciusXasperis on Jun 24, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
It actually does suck
The dropoff after Aminu/Monroe to me is pretty steep
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I got Babbit next
But no, not especially a Hayward fan
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
There'll be a lot of rookies to keep our eyes on next season
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
I'll be a little shocked if Udoh doesn't go next.
Detroit needs a big. GSW needs a big.
However, both teams draft like idiots.
Udoh to GS!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Udoh!
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
LOL
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 24, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLOLOLOL
It’s Udoh! We will win Aminu, Detroit wants Monroe
DX.. 6 for 6
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
So we're for sure getting Greg or Aminu
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 5:07 PM PDT reply actions
I bet we pick Hayward
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
I'm not a hayward fan
I rather trade down for George
Fairly sure Detroit is going to take him here
He’s the clear best pick for them
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
wow
i like how this is going so far. I’d assume pistons go w/ monroe, leaving aminu on the board. I still am worried were going the hayward route…..
Udoh at 6. I never would have guessed a week ago.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Ekpe Udoh=shorter Hasheem Thabeet?
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 5:10 PM PDT reply actions
I hear that the Pistons made a promise to Davis
They want Monroe, but figure he’d be off of the board by then. This will be interesting.
Tell me about it.
Gotta love those draft promises.
If they take Aminu, though, do we take Monroe or Hayward? That would be interesting, too.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
what if aminu and monroe are on the board for us?
monroe might make kaman expendable to pick up a 3 via trade…..
Monroe to Detroit.. The Chief has arrived..
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
That's a relief. but I'm still nervous.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
DX is 7 for 7
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
I think this is a lock, guys
Top 5 talent. Awesome.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Man, I love this kid
Greg Monroe. Talented and mature
fuck you espn3.com
it just cut out…..NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Ohhhh, shit...
It’s the Clips, man. Why should they broadcast it?
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
I can bet you
espn will not mention the clippers, no matter what
Our pick is up, and they haven't talked about us yet! LOL
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jun 24, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
They'll probably talk about the Lakers right now.
“Speaking of LA, you know who won the championship this year?”
It'll be nice to finally have someone to match up with the Melo's and Lebron's
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 24, 2010 5:16 PM PDT reply actions
Baron is sick...some people are crazy
He will start the season motivated and if we can actually win some games he will stay motivated
The Chief has arrived!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Good pick
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Time to go to bed - it's 1:20am in the UK and I've got work tomorrow!
Great pick though and a great core of players now.
Bingo! Oh me oh my!
Now we gotta wait like 3 hours for #54
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
I think I may shed a tear, so excited and happy.
OK, no tears but this is great.
Well that's a wasted pick
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
Noone
Its a terrible draft except for Cousins.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
Still not sure how it's a wasted pick then.
No matter how bad the draft, something is better than nothing.
How exciting. See you guys back this time next year.
Same draft station, same draft channel.
I've got nothing.
We can only hope that he's not our starting SF next season
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
New Thread
Hey guys… switch to the other thread. This one is killing me.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
ESPN slamming Clippers or what?
BTW, the last Nigerian we drafted was the Kandiman. Bilas mentioned the Chief motives. Hmmm. Any Kandiman syndrome here?
I think aminu is trade bait for something bigger!
They just got the best available but i think he will be shipped out.
wow
who’s going to pick up ed davis now? I was thinking the jazz might if they’re letting boozer go. If not going big, I expected at least babbit.
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