A Few Thoughts
It's a real pleasure to see that the Clippers have some interesting storylines this morning. There's a lot to think about and analyze, and topics for discussion, even if no one in the media is going to bother to get around to it and they'd like to dismiss the Clippers as always. I've had a few topics banging around in my head since last night, on which I'd be curious to hear some other points of view, and I'd also love to see some other angles on where the Clippers find themselves today.
Before getting started, I should say that one primary topic is the media and pundit response (and non-response) to the Clipper moves and situation. Whenever a topic is raised, it's immediately interesting to see how the media has chosen to spin. This is generally a matter of a quick dismissal and moving on to other teams and Lebron and where he might go and the ability to bundle free agents (Miami, Chicago). No one is stopping to look at where the Clippers are now and wondering if free agents should give them serious consideration. Our view, of course, is that the Clips were worthy of serious consideration before the draft, and they look to be only more so now.
Let's begin with the Aminu pick. I like SP's point last night that we had half-convinced ourselves that he wouldn't be available, and then he was there, and then we were tempted to begin the process of thinking he might not be the right guy. We know I like to be optimistic, and I have to say that this pick looks better and better the more that I think about it. The main area of my own study is trying to determine the last time that the Clippers had a legitimate SF who was focused on rebounding and defense and running the floor. All of the intriguing picks who fell in behind Aminu (and we shouldn't forget that there was a moment when Aminu and Wes Johnson seemed like a toss-up), Hayward, Babbitt and George, present question marks on defense and rebounding. Yes, Hayward's all around game might be a nice addition, although he could be frustrated like Luke Jackson or a bit fragile like MDJr.. And Babbitt is a 50-40-90 shooter (against limited competition). But should we complain about erring on the side of defense and rebounding? Aminu seems to present a longterm complement to the 20 year old club (DJordan, Griffin, Gordon), which could evolve into a unit that is stingy on defense and rebounds extremely well. Do the Clippers want a shooter, scorer and playmaker, or some one who can feasibly guard and cause problems for players like Kevin Durant, LeBron James, and Carmelo Anthony, as well as a Paul Pierce, Rudy Gay, etc. etc. Would the Clips have addressed that issue by taking one of the other guys? No. Is it bad to have a defensive role player and athlete available for the SF slot, when you have solid players at the other four positions? Look at the Lakers, with Ariza and now Artest.
What was the media response to the Aminu pick? ESPN coverage: curious, because he's the same guy as Blake Griffin. No, he's not. Griffin has always been a natural PF whose versatility might allow him to play the 3 and defend against the aforementioned beasts, LeBron, Carmelo and Durant. Aminu was always slated to be the opposite, a natural SF whose athleticism and length might allow him to defend well against stretch 4s like Lamar Odom, Rashard Lewis, and others. The ESPN guys forgot these facts. It was like people saying that it didn't make any sense for the Clippers to steal Camby from the Nuggets when they already had Kaman, when it was obvious that they were completely different players (only Kaman got hurt in 08-09). LATimes Mark Heisler, thinking the Clips should gamble on Hayward or Babbitt, said that "the Owner is involved again." But it certainly doesn't seem like this is a DTS decision, and instead it looks more like a safe, solid basketball decision, with the credit going to Olshey. Heisler's great, but he's gotten a lot of mileage out of the foibles of DTS. Simmons decided to play the "Aminu is now being fitted for a full body cast" card, his own version of "it's the Clippers." The poor boy is going to need more time to get over giving up that double-digit lead.
Next item: Are some of the other, lesser free agents more attractive and viable now that the Clips drafted Aminu? I say yes, starting with Joe Johnson. We're a long way from being able to call Aminu a defensive stopper, but having the guy with size, length, athleticism and a hunger for rebounds to come off the bench behind a wing scorer like Johnson makes for a much stronger rotation with Eric Gordon. The same is true for Rudy Gay, a guy the Clips might make a reasonable offer to, allowing Memphis to match. I'm very happy with Olshey today, and I'm willing to believe that he wouldn't overpay Rudy Gay, but there's no reason not to make him an offer of Lamar Odom money or thereabouts. Again, Hayward and Babbitt are lesser, unproven versions of the free agents, and they're not especially complementary.
Now we move on to Bledsoe. This was obviously a strong move. The Clips had poor luck in the past with 2nd round backup guards, with Chalmers, Ewing, and Mike Taylor. Then there's Keyon Dooling, but let's remember that Dooling was picked to be a starter at PG or SG, only he wasn't good enough to start at either position. Bledsoe has a much higher talent level and athleticism than the 2nd round guys, and he seems more skilled than Dooling.
One of the best things about the Bledsoe deal is the intricacy, forethought, and timing of it, which show that Olshey was extremely well-prepared and had a carefully selected target. It was a tricky combination of forces: Bledsoe had to still be on the board, there had to be a team that might draft him that wanted to trade their pick (OKC), and that pick had to be at exactly the right spot where the money wouldn't reduce the Clips ability to make a max offer. It obviously took KA and others a fair bit of time to figure out that the pick was "safe," but Olshey had it figured out beforehand. And he knew that OKC has Westbrook, Maynor, and Harden and wouldn't want Bledsoe, and they would be open to taking a protected 1st round pick.
Media response? Simmons couldn't resist the obvious joke: "when the Clippers offer you a first round pick, you have to take it." Funny "it's the Clippers" stuff, but not exactly aimed at NBA cognoscenti, who know how a protected pick works. And it should be noted that Simmons was salivating for Bledsoe as Rondo's backup on the Celtics just before OKC took him. He admitted it was a solid deal and that the Clips have the makings of a great guard rotation in BD-Gordon-Bledsoe.
Other ripples: the Clips could still sign Steve Blake, of course, depending on how the rest of free agency goes, and if they divvy up the money rather than putting it all in one pot. Laker fans were claiming Blake was already on their roster, until they heard that they probably weren't going to spend the MLE, stack their roster and increase their tax payment. The good news is that the new Lakers coach will cost a lot less money than the old one, so there's that.
Speaking of the Lakers, I was thinking about how this new roster matches up with the champs. DJordan-Bynum, Kaman-Gasol, BGriffin-Odom, Aminu-Artest, Kobe-Gordon, Fisher-BDavis, Bledsoe-Farmar (leaving). And the Clips have 17 million to spend on one or more players. With continued forethought and the effort that we saw last night, the Clips could really match up well. And it's not about beating the Lakers as much as it is about competing and matching up with them, which means that you're a competitive team in the West, capable of winning regularly and against anyone.
Could keep going--what else didn't the Clippers have: a guard who can shoot and score who played great with their future star back in college. Now they've added that guy. It's a nice change on the 2nd round stuff referenced earlier, similar to the Mike Taylor experience. But maybe it's the kind of thing that actually works, if Blake Griffin turns out to be the Clipper messiah.
The other, final, funny thing, mentioned by others, is that if you add Sofo the Clippers have a complete team. It's rather amazing how many spots were filled, when there were so many empty holes going into yesterday. And the marginal fills (Sofo, Warren, Aminu as a starter) are placeholders moving towards the next step.
As I said at the beginning, the Clips were legit and attractive going into yesterday. How much more so, and how much better does their money look now?
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We do match up very well with the Lakers
DJ is the weakest link in the matchup department, as he always gets schooled by Bynum.
Aminu matches up well with Artest, and might be able to guard Kobe.
We’ve seen what Baron can do against Fisher.
With Farmar leaving, it will be interesting to see what the Lakers do. Shannon Brown has never impressed me at the point. If they sign another point guard, does he take the starting job away from Fisher?
If we resign Craig Smith, we know what will happen in the 4th quarter of a Lakers game.
Now we just need to sign a wing who can shoot.
"Smart dudes that know the game of basketball." - Al-Farouq Aminu referring to his new teammates
Lakers are vulnerable against transition/quick offense (see OKC or Boston)
The first key to a good uptempo offense is securing that board to start the break. The second would be having athletic guys who can make the right plays and finish.
Aminu, Bledsoe, Blake, EJ, DJ and Baron should be able to execute the above. Good defense should lead to easy offense – I would love for that to be our game plan.
Lakers are vulunerable against physical teams that can punch them in the mouth
Griffin and Kaman/Jordan should be able to provide enough size to challenge them. The key then becomes defending the Lakers wings.
Gordon has proven to be a pretty good on-ball defender, and AFA is loooong, which should really improve our perimeter D.
If LeBron is looking for a team that can match up with the Lakers, the Clippers are not a bad choice.
Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)
We had a guy that could and would do that, but we traded him to Memphis.
by Lawler 4ever on Jun 25, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
sad how him punching amundson in the face was one of the highlights of that season
along with the novak buzzer beater
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Great, great work!
Clipper fans should already know that the Clippers match up very well against the Lakers. The Clippers beat them twice this year!
Thats a lot for a "Few Thoughts" lol
by baron_davis needs a fro on Jun 25, 2010 1:40 PM PDT reply actions
ClipperSteve and zhiv both come up with a "Thoughts" post at the same time
funny
"Smart dudes that know the game of basketball." - Al-Farouq Aminu referring to his new teammates
That's what I thought
I only did mine because he didn’t have one up.
One Clipper mind: just like the good old days. Or close to it. I see John R on SP’s thread already establishing his ground, with deep skepticism on the Aminu pick. Maybe we’re headed to Small Forward: Maggettifesto 4.0.
The position has been difficult for the Clippers. But it’s nothing compared to the old PG woes, which comparing Bledsoe to KDooling painfully brought back for me. Rick Brunson should have been the Derek Fisher of the Clippers: they never should have let him go after that distinguished 03-04 campaign, or whenever it was. Are Fisher and Brunson the same age?
by citizen zhiv on Jun 25, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The Brunson/Mikki Moore pick and roll was sublime
Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)
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Where Rick Bruson/Mikki Moore pick and rolls happen.
For those keeping faint hope alive that MDSr was the primary culprit behind Clipper woes, it turns out that the team does a fine job of losing without him. - citizen zhiv
I think an older free agent like JJ or PPierce
would be great additions b/c it would give AFA time to develop and eventually take over. However this would be a big gamble considering we don’t know exactly how much talent we’re dealing with w/ AFA.
Never know
Sometimes sacrificing a successful season or two and developing the young players can really lead to a successful core (see: OKC). I wouldn’t mind seeing Baron and Kaman keep the Clippers relevant while the young guys grow into stars.
Great Post!
Thanks for mentioning how this opens up the need for a wing scorer like Gay & Johnson now that we have Aminu who is sure to be a solid defender with extremely long arms.
Personally I think JJohnson is more of a shooting guard and he will want max money and will get it from another team (New Jersey, New York?) that strikes out on Lebron. I’d like to go after Gay from the start and offer him 5 years, 12 million per and see if the Grizzlies match… although if they had picked more of a SF replacement like Babbitt instead of Henry who is more of a shooting guard then I would feel more confident they wouldn’t match.
Also Zhiv,
What about Beasley as a year rental for future 2nd round draft picks?
Yeah, JJ will get offered a max from someone
I think NY will be throwing $ at guys soon. I don’t want anything to do with JJ and a 6 yr contract.
For the 1st time in all of this, I’m giving TMac some real thought. Any chance he’d go for a 2 yr deal? No one is gonna give him anything close to a max, and I bet his game will partially return, good for medium minutes.
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TMac hasn't been good for years
Yeah the injury played a part but he was never anything to report about in Houston. The most we can offer a FA is 5 years. Teams can only resign with their own team for 6 years. I think TMac would go for 2 years if the money was right but for a young team like the Clips I’m not sure he’s the best mentor. If we go for someone a bit older I’d like them to be in the mold of experienced and a good mentor leader like Sam Cassell and Cuttino Mobley. TMac could be that but his ability to play up to their level isn’t there anymore as he showed in NYC.
thanks
I’m not sure I would give JJohnson max money, although he’ll get close to it now that this is going to be musical chairs, with teams trying to add a second guy (or even a third, Miami). Johnson becomes part of a combo. I guess he’s going to get it. My point I guess is that he’s more worth it now than before, because the Clips have the defender/role player who can take some minutes beside him. That puts Gordon on the bench at times, but Johnson is going to be on the bench for stretches too: it’s a strong three man wing rotation, one that complements the BDavis-Gordon-Bledsoe triangle. Johnson seems more like an SG, but he can easily play SF alongside Gordon for big minutes, against virtually every team. Maybe that’s part of why he’s a max player. And now he’s a nice fit with the Clippers.
My instinct would be to go low, but stiil force Memphis to think about what they’re going to want to pay Mayo and Gasol and how much Gay is worth to them. I would have said 5/50, Maggette money (tho Maggs was overpaid). 5/60 is close and maybe the right number is in the middle, 5/55 and let’s see. No worries if Memphis matches.
One element with the offer is that you’d like to make sure that you’d have enough money to sign somebody else, like a Steve Blake. I don’t know how that approach works, or who fits into it best. I guess there are different scenarios. One is the max offer scenario, which starts with LeBron, and my sense is that it ends with Joe Johnson. I’m not sure that there’s anybody that the Clippers want in between. The next step is the two-player option, where one player is Rudy Gay, and then’s there’s another guy. I don’t even know how you round out the roster after that, if you’ve used your cap space. Who else might be in that category besides Gay, towards the top of it? Then there’s the three player scenario, where you’re heading towards the Clips signing guys they had before, Craig Smith and Steve Blake and Drew Gooden, whoever.
It’d only be after the Clips haven’t found better ways to spend their money, and I’m sure there are a lot of them, before I would look at Beasley, and then I’d pass on character. When you have Blake Griffin, hard-working good guy, why would you bring in Beasley, talented but challenged? You want to surround Griffin with guys like DJordan and Aminu who will look up with him and do whatever he tries to do, running up sand dunes, helping old ladies, whatever it takes. The Clips would have to make the deal on Beasley early, for it to work for Miami, and they’d be better served to keep their own money on the table.
Does David Lee make any sense for the Clippers? Character guy, works hard, not the right fit position wise, but Kaman-Griffin-Lee-Jordan, with Griffin playing some SF, would be a strong big man triangle. Might be in the second tier, not a max player. Can you start Kaman-Lee-Griffin-Gordon-BD, with DJordan, Aminu, Bledsoe off the bench? Could the Clips sign Lee and still have money for Steve Blake? Just wondering. Probably not. If the Clips want to decide to make Griffin into the same player as Aminu, based on ESPN’s suggestion, should they be looking at Stoudamire and Boozer?
by citizen zhiv on Jun 25, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
It will take close to the MAX to get JJ away from ATL or NY
The Knicks will probably give him the Max when they whiff on LeBron. The Clippers would have to probably give JJ a Max deal to get him. Not sure I’d be interested.
The guy I think is a good fit is Pierce. I would be willing to overpay him for 3 years. He’s still got something left, and fits in ideally with our roster.
Not interested in Rudy Gay. At all.
Don’t think David Lee makes sense, either. If we’re thinking of going with another big, we may as well go for Dirk. Another scorer would be ideal, and he provides it from the outside.
Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)
I like Pierce too
He’s worth overpaying. That is, giving an extra couple of years, when he won’t be effective. He would bring the veteran, winning presence (and some of the Celtic mystique) to the team.
It’d be great to make a run at him, but I wouldn’t be too upset not getting him either.
Dirk would be hard to pry loose, already a cog on a successful team. Lee is out on the open market, and should be cheaper than Dirk. Lee isn’t a max player.
by citizen zhiv on Jun 25, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't see Pierce leaving Boston
He’s one of those good guys who is going to stay with the team that drafted him forever and get his jersey retired and all that good jazz that he deserves for beating the Lakers in the finals once and hopefully again if it should happen between the 2 of them again. I think Dirk is the same and staying, minus the championships of course.
You make an interesting case for David Lee but is Blake really a PF/SF combo? I’m not quite sold on that idea but maybe we’ll see it this year. I like Blake and Aminu together at the same time with Kaman, that’s a solid front line. JJ is a better fit now with Aminu on board for defense, I’m just not quite sure he’s going to bring us the glory that should come with offering a max contract.
I’d love Gay for 5 years at 10 million per, I just think that a) he won’t take that because he thinks he should be getting more and b) Memphis easily matches that because he’s worth it and that’s what he should get. Considering I’d do 5 years and 12 million per I’d love below that even more.
Zhiv,
What are your thoughts on TMac? I think he’s too old and not a great leader with major injury concerns but others like him as an option. I’m over the Beasley idea, especially now that Miami wants more than just to dump salary because they don’t need to anymore and can still offer almost 3 max deals.
Yeah I don't see him leaving either
maybe if we got LBJ he would come over for a decreased salary, but I doubt it because he already has his ring.
LeBron or Bust !!!!
pierce
funny, paul pierce is probably my most hated player in the league. but i think overpaying him for an extra year at a high price for 2-3 years would be a great thing for the clips, extremely analagous to sam cassell’s all-important calming veteran presence in 06. this team could really use a player like this.
im also very big on players like salmons and childress. in fact id LOVE signing childress longterm, i think he is a real savvy player beyond his years, and he’d plug up that SF spot for years to come until aminu is ready.
all assuming we can’t get lebron, and if we can get lbj i will find olshey and hug him.
yeah Childress wold help expand the youth movment
I like the idea of signing either Salmons or Childress.
LeBron or Bust !!!!
both are a lot cheaper than Rudy Gay
I’m not sold on Salmons but I like Childress though Atlanta may match after losing out on Joe Johnson.
although we could probably get him alot cheaper
if we make sure to make an offer before JJ gets an offer.
LeBron or Bust !!!!
He's loving NYC apparently
They will be meeting with him at 9pm in Los Angeles when FA begins… the very first minute allowable. Then they’ll fly off to Phoenix that night to meet with Staudamire. JJ is looking like their first choice and a good fit because he’s played with D’Antoni before in Phoenix like Amare too.
Oh ok
then I definitely agree that NYC is a very likely destination for him, and I bet Coach D would love having him.
LeBron or Bust !!!!
No TMac
TMac seems to be a guy who would be added as frosting to a competitive team. I don’t know who would pay him real money. I don’t know that he did anything, coming back this season, that showed that he had any value, but I could be wrong. The trick is that he’d like to join a roster going into the season, obviously, rather than as the guy who gets added to a team before the trade deadline. Whatever.
Boston and Danny Ainge will probably be pretty ruthless about rebuilding around Rondo, and they’re not going to do Pierce any favors, I don’t think. They would be very happy for him to stay and take his 20+ million for next year, but after that he could be on the open market and still have a some gas in his tank. He’s got a tough decision to make.
The interesting part is that it makes sense for the Clippers to overpay him, to pay him for 5 years when they want him for two or three, because they’re trying to establish franchise credibility. Conversely, it’s very important to Boston and its future that they don’t overpay him, or Ray Allen. Boston is stuck with Garnett’s deal. If Pierce stays, Allen might resign for a couple of years at a semi-manageable number. It’s all up to Pierce.
by citizen zhiv on Jun 26, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
All I know is...
If we had two guys that can both take the spot up jumper AND have great post game, with Lee and Kaman in at the same time, that’s one hell of a duo. Not particularly our need, but I wouldn’t exactly be complaining (unless we gave him max money).
Great breakdown Zhiv
Nice to see signs of Club Optimism looking ready to re-open. Last night definitely gives us reason to watch and hope no matter what happens the rest of the summer.
But I’m not sure going after a Rudy Gay or Joe Johnson is the wisest move for this team. Strictly as basketball players, either would of course make a nice addition to next season’s squad. But they also will command top dollar contracts for likely five years. I’m sure signing Luol Deng and Andre Iguodala to extensions seemed like a victory to the Bulls and 76ers at the time. Even though they have performed reasonably well, those teams seem somewhat burdened by those contracts.
Before making that kind of commitment, I’d prefer to find out what we have in Aminu. If he’ll be ready to take over the starting SF position in a couple years, then it seems prudent to avoid blocking that option or sticking ourselves with a bad contract. I’m sure that’s a concept our budget conscious owner can get behind. For what we need the next two or three years, Josh Childress or Mike Miller seem like a better fit, quality players who wouldn’t clog up the cap space quite so much and for quite so long. I’d throw John Salmons in, too, but the dropoff in rebounding with him is a concern, as it would be with Johnson.
It also might be wise to look for another lesser option as depth at SG/SF, someone who could fill in for one of our starting wings and spread the floor in case of injuries but who could also blend into the bench in better times. The Clips should probably pick this player out of the bargain bin later in the summer as I have a feeling there will be bargains to be had. I haven’t looked closely at who would fit that description, but Kyle Korver seems like a fit. Throw in Sofo, Rhino, Novak and a 3rd PG, and the roster is set.
Great names
I was looking at this above. Johnson is worth it. He’s a clear cut above Deng and Iguodala and Gay. I like Iggy better than Deng, and Iggy is overpaid. Deng is overpaid. Gay might be worth what Deng makes, I don’t know.
But I like Childress, and Miller is a good lower-budget alternative, and I really like Salmons, also for a relatively low price.
by citizen zhiv on Jun 25, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
For the sake of trying to emulate what the Thunder have done this past year, I’d rather see us try to cultivate what we already have with our young 19-21 group. It may or may not work out like it has in Oklahoma City, but it’s about as likely to lead to a Championship as getting a guy like JJ.
One thing
Kyle Korver and Steve Novak are basically the same player, except Korver is way better.
Pick one
"Smart dudes that know the game of basketball." - Al-Farouq Aminu referring to his new teammates
Perimeter Big
Novak might be worth bringing back as a situational player who comes in to spread the floor. Otherwise, the Clippers don’t have anyone at PF or C who can reliably shoot outside the three point line. As a 12th man on a minimum contract, Novak has some value.
I'm on board with this 2-3 year approach
A mid-level glue guy sounds right. Childress or Miller. I hadn’t even considered Korver, but I like it. The dude shot 53.6% from beyond the stripe last year.
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Korver
Makes some sense with Aminu on the roster, but neither of them is a starter. Grabbing Korver as things wind down could be interesting. But the Clips haven’t figured out how to get these guys on the floor in the past. New coach, new system should make a big difference.
by citizen zhiv on Jun 25, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Definitely a backup
Korver’s role would be as a rotation player (around 8th or 9th in the pecking order) primarily backing up EJ so long as everyone stays healthy. Last season’s team really struggled whenever Gordon missed time, and IMO the Clips should sign a veteran wing who, in case of injury, can fill in as a starter and reliably spread the floor. Korver may cost too much for this role, but if he’s available, he could be a helpful addition. Warren may be able to fill this role one day, but he really shouldn’t be counted on as more than just a developmental project right now.
i am 100% behind this approach. the OKC approach basically. matt barnes is also an option. or an over the hill tmac, whatever.
it works well with everything. we develop the young guys, see who pans out. we’ve got the twolves pick later on and our own picks to keep adding youth to our bench as the old guys get old and we hopefully do not lock our roster into some huge terrible deal.
i am so happy we didnt get stuck with EB.
All I know
is AFA gets hurt this year I’m giving up on this team.
Excuse me, I’m going to go sacrifice a goat, throw a few thousand pennies into a fountain and go find some 4 leaf clovers.
FA in 2010.
Let's pitch in a thousand pennies each, buy a goat, sacrifice him, and then throw him in a clover-shaped fountain
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Don't forget to throw in some lucky horse shoes
and buying all the worlds supply of rabbits feet.
LeBron or Bust !!!!
should we go after korver??
we need a shooter….just in case no lebron
Sorry
I don’t think Korver is a good fit. The best SF’s available in FA are LeBron, Gay, Pierce (Yuck), Childress, Barnes, Salmons J. Howard and R. Jefferson. Obviously, LeBron is the target but as long as the Donald owns the Clips, no chance. I like Gay but we would have to overpay to get him. I hate Pierce and I think the championship series against the Lakers shows he is on the decline.
I would love to see Childress or Salmons as a Clipper. Matt Barnes keeps sticking around the NBA and was a starter all year in Orlando, but he is better known for his D than his shooting ability, not that a good defender should be overlooked.
Josh Howard is a disaster on wheels and should be avoided at all costs, IMO.
All in all, I would like to see us go after Childress and then Salmons. Childress may not be the purest shooter, but he does everything pretty darn well and he is only 27, the prime of most NBA player careers.
Last Thursday, Childress was reported to working out a deal with the Wiz, but then on Friday
the Hawks gave him a qualifying offer. I’d like to know the full scoop.
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I still like
Rasual Butler.. he was not overwhelming in any category but he was not disgusting either.
His shooting helped LA wins some games and he is solid all around. He probably would not command a crazy salary either.
The return of Blake Griffin will help the team plenty, but the Clippers still need help. Compare Rasual Butler’s number to all of the above mentioned SF’s ……
+1
Sual did set the franchise record for most 3pts in a single season. Since he can play both the SG and SF position, he’d be a good rotational / 6th man for the team.
by DangerCurtis on Jun 29, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Pass on Butler
Rasual is a streak shooter and not very good at hitting the boards. He averaged just 2.9 rebounds per game for the Clips last year and is a #2 playing out of position at the #3. If he plays more than 18-20 minutes a game next year, the Clips have problems.
praying
aminu is gonna become a better jump shooter than we have seen.
also i dont reallie see the hype for NCM this summer league?
im curious to see what rod benson’s got to contribute.
im glad we got all these open spots. gives us a chance to start fresh with a whole new outlook. success =D

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