The 2010-11 LA Clippers = ?
by NBAFAN8 on Jul 11, 2010 10:32 AM PDT
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PrintI think now would be a good time to take a look at who and what (Sofo) makeup our 2010-11 Clippers squad.
I know there has been a few members disgruntled about the draft, the signing of head coach Del Negro, and the free agent signings of Randy Foye, Ryan Gomes, and Brian Cook.
Let's take a look at the draft picks. Al-farouq Aminu was taken #8. The Clippers needed a small forward, so they filled this need with a guy that was very productive in college. He can score the ball, rebound the ball, and play good defense. Aminu was the only player in the ACC last year to averaged a double-double (16ppg and 11rpg). The Clippers then traded for guard Eric Bledsoe. Bledsoe is a combo guard, but at 6'1 he might be better served to play the point. Only time will tell, but this kid was highly recruited and he did play the 2 at Kentucky. Willie Warren was our second round pick. He was a highly touted prospect coming into his freshman year of college. Some predicted he would be a early to mid first round pick. With that being said, the Clippers may have found a diamond in the rough. We shall see. Needless to say, the Clippers had a very nice draft. They filled positions that needed to be filled. They got their SF, whether Aminu is a starter or not, and they got their back-up guards in Bledsoe and Warren. Alos let's not forget that we have the #1 pick Blake Griffin. He has been talked about enough and we all know what he is capable of doing.
How about the free agents so far? And let's not forget that the Clippers still have money to spend. The first addition was guard Randy Foye. Foye was a lottery pick in 2007. He has the talent to be a starting guard in this league and he has shown it. I think this addition will be very important as Baron and Gordon have both had their fair share of injuries. It will feel good to know that not only can Foye come off the bench and contribute, but if one of our guards goes down with an injury he can step right up and fill that spot. Ryan Gomes was our next free agent signing. I have him starting at the 3 next year. I have seen this guy play both on the Celtics and the T-Wolves. He brings many things to the table. He is a big guy that uses his body well on both offense and defense. He is also a very good shooter from just about any spot on the floor. He will be a very nice piece and he will allow Aminu to develop and not be thrown into the fire his rookie season. Brian Cook is the last free agent. He will be our Brain Skinner at the end of the bench. I think the funniest thing about this signing isn't that we signed him, but that he and Skinner both have the same first name and their last names both have to do with culinary art. I wonder if either of them spend any time in the kitchen.
Finally let's take a look at our new coach. We sign Vinny Del Negro, who was fired by the Chicago Bulls after taking them to the playoffs in each of his first two seasons. Vinny is a worker. He may not have a ton of coaching experience in the NBA, but he has experience in the NBA. Vinny played in the NBA for over a decade and he worked in an NBA front office. His play calling might be at it's early stages, but his ability to relate and develop his players is fine tuned as he showed in Chicago. Del Negro wnats his players to play the game the right way, play hard, and look forward and not backwards. I liked what he said about looking out the windshield and not the rear view mirror. I think the team and us as fans should do the same.
The Clippers are looking more and more like a team with the additions of the draft picks, free agencts, and most importantly the head coach. We have a mix of veterans, youth, projects, prospects, and stars. If all goes as planned the 2010-11 Clippers could be one of the better teams this fan base has seen in quit some time. The future looks good with players such as Chris Kaman, Blake Griffin, Eric Gordon, Al-Fouraq Aminu, Randy Foye, Ryan Gomes, Deandre Jordan, Eric Bledsoe, and Sofoklis Schortsanitis.
On last thing I would like to bring to everyone's attention is how each addition to this team is falling in place to make the Clippers not just a team in November and December like in year's past, but a player for the entire season and a contender for the playoffs. The depth this team has this year is like we have never seen before.
PG Baron Davis /backup Eric Bledsoe
SG Eric Gordon /backup Randy Foye
SF Ryan Gomes /backup Al-Farouq Aminu
PF Blake Griffin /backup Sofo Schortsanitis
C Chris Kaman /backup Deandre Jordan
So I ask you Clipper Nation. What do you see the 2010-11 Clippers team as?
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40-44, you must mean. :-)
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
fail - neither of you can add to 82
by banandy on Jul 11, 2010 12:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If one assembles a bunch of below average players
Why would one rationally expect them to be anything but below average as a team?
To maybe borrow another way to look at it, who is your Big 3 and how big are they?
Not very big at all.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
We aren't the Celtics or the Heat
We don’t have a “Big 3”. The Clippers do have size, a ton of young atheletes, and depth. The Celtics lack size and young athletes. The Heat lack size and depth.
Also, I don’t think anyone is going to tell you that we are going to be better than the Celtics or the Heat, but we will be better.
I think SilverClip is spot on with his 40-44 wins.
Why be stuck on the Celtics and Heat?
Worry about the Warriors.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
30-35
I see a team with very little improvement than last year, we have 3 unproven back-up players based on your prediction, and it is still weak at SF.i see Golden State passing us in our division this year, and possibly SAC, Which would leave us in the 5th spot, I Really don’t see where the organization has really improved that much from last year, we still have money to spend on a impact player,if there is one still available,but until that happens,I don’t see it, siging Brian Cook, a veteran player that no other team was interested in,make you go Hmmmmmmm, sounds like the same old Clippers. And believing that Blake Griffin is going to be our savior is really putting a lot on his shoulders,remember he is a rookie,I don’t see us doing anything special this year.I am holding out a little hope, that they spend the remaining of our cap money on a real impact player and then i may be able to see the light.
You look at our division and see that the Suns aren't going to be the same 50+ win team.
I agree with you that the Warriors will be better, but the Clippers have more depth and talent than the Suns, Warriors, and Kings. I honestly feel that the Clippers will finish in 2nd place behind the Lakers in the Pacific.
You should be in a great place to make a lot of money then
I am guessing the win total will be set lower than you expect. A substantial bet might be in order.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
The Kings don't have an all-star on their team & I'm not sure about the Warriors here, AT ALL
We have Kaman. The Warriors at least now have David Lee who will probably play out of position again and play C even though he is a PF since Biedrins has been more unhealthy than Kaman in the past year. David Lee is a great pick-up for them, but they’ve now lost a lot of their depth and are a team with a lot of new parts too with Magette, Azibuke, Randolph, Turiaf, S. Jackson & possibly Morrow all gone. David Lee is a plus but Ekpe Udoh could be out months with his latest injury (and everybody agreed at the draft that was a bad pick) and Dan Gadzurik, Charlie Bell & Dorell Wright won’t replace the numbers of what they lost. I don’t see any depth from them and I see us abusing them at pretty much every position now.
I would love to see 41 wins or more and it is possible if we have a healthy season, otherwise, we could struggle again.
Also...
Yes the Clippers do have a lot of new pieces like Golden State, but our starting 4 is returning while the Warriors, have what, their starting back-court and trying to trade Ellis?
I agree, Warriors are not really improved...
And still have a crazy coach, weird front office, and are about to be sold to Larry Ellison, who will, hopefully for them, cleans house.
Suns now how Childress and Turkoglu. They’re even weirder than they were with Amare but will likely be just as good… it’s all about Nash.
The Warriors have gone a through a very unusual roster overhaul this summer
Gone are Maggette, Randolph, Turiaf, Azubuike and Morrow (if he goes to the Nets).
Their roster was so unbalanced with wings but I’m really suprised that they let Azubuike and Morrow go to be honest as Azu is a great 6th man, and Morrow is a great pure shooter.
I’m quite suprised they didn’t package up Monta Ellis for New York instead and keep Azu, Morrow, Curry and add in David Lee. That would be much more balanced in my eyes.
But hey, it’s better for us that they aren’t much improved!
Bingo! Oh me oh my!
2nd ?
Now i do agree that the west has gotten weaker,and they have gotten older,but I do not see the Clippers ending up in 2nd place in the pacific division behind the Lakers,unless we have some proven outside shooters,and some very mature rookies. I think taking it one step at a time,and admitting that a 40-45 win season will be considered extremely successful, but the reality is 35 wins will be heading in the right direction.
Blake doesn't have to put up 20/10 for us to benefit from his on court presence.
Just having him on the team is going to get his teammates to work harder and play with more effort. Young and old. A quote the team needs to live by. Hard work beats talent, when talent fails to work hard. There’s an energy on the team when Blake is on the court that is easily recognizable. That’s the most important thing that he has to give his team. It’s not necessarily the numbers, but the intangibles.
by Lawler 4ever on Jul 11, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
We could have been a 30-35 win team last year
if we didn’t give up in the second half of the season. And this was without Blake Griffin. So you’re saying we will not improve at all next season even with the presumptive ROY on our team?
"Excellence...is not an act, but a habit" Aristotle
by Cliptomaniac on Jul 12, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I think
That they’ve taken some giant steps forward. In some ways, it’s additionl by subtraction.
1. They have seriously upgraded the coach
2. They have seriously upgraded the GM
3. BG is going to play – he’s predicted to be huge. He will or should command double teams, opening up the floor for EJ and BD and the SF, as well as Kaman, who can shoot from the outside as we saw last year.
4. They are in the process of filling in the roster, with two capable backups so far who can stretch the defense and do alot of other things.
5. They could use a starting SF and we will see what they do with the rest of the money.
I’m glad to see some finally endorsing the Big 3 concept that I’ve always maintained is critical. We should have that with BD, EJ and Kaman. What’s nice is that BG should both help the Big 3 become more consistent and eventually replace Kaman as the third of the three.
I don’t think that we need our starting SF to be one of the Big 3 in terms of scoring. I think that once BG becomes a big scoring threat that Aminu (particularly if he can shoot the 3) will slot right in.
But this is a young team that is going to take some time to develop. Management must instill a culture of winning. I think DTS has been ready to do that but the former management has really let us down. I’m optimistic that we are finally doing what needs to be done.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Yikes
That might be the littlest big three in the league. I hope for the Clippers sake your theory isn’t correct and that’s the only way to win.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
This was the hand they were dealt
This was MDSr’s creation. As I’ve been saying, to be successful, teams have to have three consistent scorers. BD, EJ and Kaman are the Big 3 on the Clips. Which is one of the reasons why they haven’t been very successful. BG if he is the player that everyone hopes will easily supplant Kaman and open up the floor for EJ and others.
Do I think that will happen this year? Probably not. Which is why I can’t predict that they will be a winning team this year.
Sofo is an interesting piece. If he comes to play and the coach designs an offense that he can work with, he could be an x – factor.
This will be an interesting year. I’m looking forward to it. You?
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
You are looking forward to what you admit will probably be a losing team?
I can admit I did predict that would happen once MDSr was gone.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
Yes, they have a long way to go
The team was not set up to be a winning team in the NBA. That’s the problem.
But they’ve replaced the GM and the coach with pieces that will help them grow. And they had a great draft and are doing well in free agency.
I’m optimistic long term. However, if BG and Sofo are ready now, they could conceivably be a winning team this year. We just don’t know enough about how they will do in the NBA to make that prediction at this time.
Rome wasn’t built in a day.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Also, I hadn't realized that
you’d predicted that they’d get a better GM and coach and would have a great draft. If you did, that’s prescient!!
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Of course that's not what I said
But as usual, you can’t go three comments without lying.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
you said that you'd predicted what would happen when MDSr was kicked to the curb
I just repeated what happened and thus apparently what you predicted.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
See above about your use of and understand of language
My prediction that people would drop expectations immediately once MDSr was fired. Since you are looking forward to a likely losing season, it is clear that I was correct.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
That's funny
Last year I predicted 30 wins pre season. This year I’m predicting up to 40. So my expectations have increased.
But I’m glad to see that you are basing the correctness of your predictions on what I think.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
But Dunleavy was on track to win 35
So he exceeded your expectations! So strange to want to fire someone under those circumstances.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
On track? Actually you've got to see the entire season
One little leak and his entire season derailed.
He was never going to win 35 games over an entire season. Even if he did, that’s a losing season. Yet another.
I would fire anyone who had a sub .400 record in 7 years. Actually, I’d never let it go on anywhere near that long. I think it’s strange that you’d just let it continue. I thought you weren’t into excuses.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
All we know is what happened
You told us they would start winning as soon as CMDSr was fired. You were wrong.
By using win totals as the benchmark you prove your expectation for MDSr was to win as many games as possible. By your assessment of Olshey, it is clear that is not your expectation of him.
Your expectations have been lowered. You can deny it, but it is provably true.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
Talk about lying
I said that it would take a long time but that would be the first step.
Your desperation is showing.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Hehheheh
“And they had a great draft and are doing well in free agency.”
Sacramento had a great draft and the Bulls are doing well in free agency. The Clippers are somewhere much short of that.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
You forgot to add "in your opinion"
I think they had a great draft filling their needs. Would I have taken Hayward? Probably. But you really can’t fault Aminu. Even WIN likes the guy. Great hustle stats.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
What's WIN?
Is this your own personal stat?
Why would I write “in your opinion” when writing my opinion? Absurd.
I do like it that within just this week you have cried that I am too direct and also cried that I am not direct enough. What don’t you cry about?
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
Ok, I can see this is going nowhere
Move along
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
I try as hard as I can
But there just isn’t getting through to you. Much too dense.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
You're losing these arguments time after time because
You’re trying to support MDSr and rip the current administration.
That’s quite a low bar my man.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
At least you made an attempt jax to call it quits on this fiasco.
"Put the icing on the cake ladies and gentlemen" - Ralph Lawler vs. The Grizzlies
by In GrIfFin We TrUsT on Jul 11, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
haha yea
"Put the icing on the cake ladies and gentlemen" - Ralph Lawler vs. The Grizzlies
by In GrIfFin We TrUsT on Jul 11, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
It is a low bar
And still Brian Cook.
Justify it!
Lol its impossible.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
by John R on Jul 11, 2010 4:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Wait, arguments?
You come here to the internet to argue?
I think we can add loser to liar and hypocrite.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
Just responding to your nonsensical diatribes
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Clips to be a losing team a surprise?
06-07: 40-42
07-08: 23-59
08-09: 19-63
09-10: 29-53
Recent history yields us an average of 28 wins over the last four years since our playoff run.
With the history of FA’s coming to LAC we obviously need to build through the draft, and we have a #1 overall, #8 overall, and #18 who’ve never played an NBA game…we just have to see how good these kids are.
The only good player we’re losing from last year, Camby could’ve been retained if we had just not traded him. We have plenty of cap space right now after filling out backup spots to sign him.
Better that, than over-the-hill veteran brought in for "leadership"
Not of course meaning Baron Davis…
Also, Lawler said each player on the Clippers was inquired about
If Olshey chose not to trade them, I don’t see any reason to blame the prior administration. Its the GM’s job to improve the team.
Unless you are calling Ralph Lawler a liar?
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
I'm satisfied with Olshey so far
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
With such low expectations, how could you not be?
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
Said by the guy supporting Mr. Sub .400 / 7 years
Classic
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Jax, so far so good
I’m too impressed with Olshey so far. My biggest concern is how much authority he has and how often he has to go to Sterling or to Sterling’s main lackey to get an okay to do something. For example, I wonder how much freedom and budget VDN has to bring in new assistant coaches.
I'd say with the moves we've seen over the last year +
The Clippers will only take deals it deems prudent and cheap. In other words; nothing risky (safe and hopefully smart), meaning no big FA pursuit and wait for deals like Camby and Bledsoe to fall into our lap…
It could be worse.
I'm not calling Ralph a liar
Sometimes, we try to make points via hyperbole. I think the point Ralph was making is that the Clips have a number of players that other teams would like to have. Let’s say another team inquired about EJ and offered a second round pick for him. So, the other team inquired but it wasn’t serious. When I read that Ralph had said that, my first thought is who’s interested in Baron Davis? Only a playoff team with a PG problem or a team that just missed making the playoffs and needs to upgrade at PG would have an interest. The Pacers, for example, would have an interest in BD but they would want to unload contracts like Murphy, Dunleavy, Foster. None of these would be a good add for the Clips.
38-42 Wins.
I think that I have to cap my optimism a bit because I’m so excited for this season. With that said, it is undeniable that our team has gotten much better than last year looking at our roster and taking into account we still have a large chunk of cap space. I’m thinking we will make the playoffs, especially with the West getting weaker this year (Suns? Utah?).
No reason we'll inherently spend that money.
Neither is there reason to assume 42 wins = playoffs. We are in the West. Even with teams declining like Utah, Phoenix, etc, last year’s 8th seed was 50 wins.
If we assume Yao is back healthy (even a little bit more than last year would be an improvement given how the West lost a few big men like Amare and C.Boozer) then Houston is only going up. A full season now with K.Martin should be good for them.
Let’s peg ~47 as a safer zone to make the playoffs.
PHX
is picking up Childress and Turkoglu. Declining? I don’t think so.
by daclipjoint on Jul 12, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
i would like to see
some summer league
to see how sofo/new guys are looking
then we can through some numbers out
by Piatkowski fan! on Jul 11, 2010 12:32 PM PDT reply actions
Summer league...meh, it's not too tell-tale
Just hope no one gets injured…
I wouldn't mind Gomes backing up Griffin.
we need a jack of all trades at SF.
need a legit SF
seriously, thats it. how has this not been addressed for years
We addressed in this last draft.
Before that we added a PF named B.Griffin. That was a more pressing and safer selection.
aminu wont be ready for a year or two
and gomes isnt a starter.
I agree in both cases, unfortunately
which is why I was hoping they would go and get a starting calibre SF like Childress or Miller. I just don’t understand the Gomes addition. I’ve seen him quite a few times and he’s never impressed me.
Bingo! Oh me oh my!
too many unknowns...
Everyone is saying the team is better, but that remains to be seen.
Based on what is known, is the team any better?
Like, I’ve been saying it all depends on how the rookies perform and if they live up to expectations.
And how Brian Cook performs
If there are any injuries.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
by John R on Jul 11, 2010 4:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He'll be very good at sitting on the bench
which happens to be EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS BROUGHT IN TO DO. You can really stop pointing out his signing as a mistake. It’s not a mistake. He can play if he needs to. Kaman is injured a lot, so he is a third-stringer. Third-stringers are necessary. We don’t want to sign a big name to be the third-string C.
No need to argue with the Clipper-hater
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Misguided Optimism?
I may later regret taking this point of view, but I am remaining optimistic about our team’s future beyond this season. I totally understand the frustrations of everyone who is tired of sub-par seasons and wants to win something – anything – now. As Clipper fans, we’ve been waiting a long time for something good to happen. I also understand those of you whose win projections for next season are less than optimistic. You’re probably right.
However, I am feeling positive of the future. Despite the lack of sexy free agent signings (and one indefensible one in Brian Cook), I think the front office is doing things – as VDN would say – the right way.
In my humble opinion, you can’t take on a “win now” team building philosophy unless you already have pieces in place that are truly ready to win. As much potential as our roster has, we weren’t one non-LeBron/Wade FA away from going to the top. While it would be awesome to be a perennial playoff contender with a big move, there is a different kind of frustration that comes with being a Utah Jazz perennial 2nd round loser that just can’t make it any further.
The team that I think about when I look for reassurance is Oklahoma City. While we may be facing a 30-win season, remember the Thunder’s inaugural 23-win season. They had a group of high-character youngsters fronted by a potentially transcendent star in Durant, plus a few scrubby vets not unlike the guys we just signed (also with short, easily moveable contracts). They had a newish coach that the guys liked playing for, and he made sure that the youngsters got their minutes. We all know what happened this year.
I think our Clippers’ season will be like a slightly better version of the Thunder’s first season, except we have two older incumbent players in Davis and Kaman. Maybe their presence will totally ruin the vibe in the locker room, but maybe (hopefully) Griffin will turn into our own Durant-sized superstar and lead us to the promised land in a couple years, while the so-called “below average” players we just signed will probably be traded or just move on around the time that our team is ready to go to the next level.
Obviously, Thunder-esque improvement that quickly is not something that happens every day, but I think that our front office is trying their hardest to follow Sam Presti’s example.
I would like to see some winning ASAP just like everyone else. In the case of our current team, however, I think haste would make waste. A little time to let our youngsters develop is key to sustaining success and to acquiring REAL players who can take our franchise to the next level. Our guys will get better and gain confidence. In turn, their improvements can attract top tier FA’s and/or raise the value of guys that might be worth trading (look at how many inquiries there were about DeAndre after he got minutes last season).
On a final note, what’s all the Gomes hate? Truth be told, I haven’t seen him play much, but all we need him to do is be the 5th option for the next year or two, and I’m sure he is more than up to the task. He’s got a good reputation for being a team player, and – if the rumors are true – he chose the Clippers over other suitors. He won’t be taking shots away from the other guys, he won’t be stopping the ball (ahem Al Thornton ahem), and he won’t be complaining about his role, which would probably be the case with a more established player at the 3. Hopefully Aminu or some future acquisition will supplant Gomes as the starter soon, but for now, I think he will be fine for what he need him to do.
Anyway, apologies for the long-winded post. Keep your heads up, fellow Citizens!
by Raining Buckets on Jul 11, 2010 4:44 PM PDT reply actions
I think I have to agree, although I just skimmed
As long as they steadily increase the wins I’m be happy. I’m keeping my expectations to about 5 wins more than last season. Given that just adding a healthy BG should be a pretty good improvement over last season. I think the only significant loss from last season would be Camby, but I always thought his numbers were better than his actual impact on the game. I love the guy, but I don’t think he’s a starter anymore on a contender, and by the time our youngsters are coming into their own, he’ll be more than ready to retire.
Even currently constructed, I’m probably capping my expectations at 10 wins more than last year, which more than likely wouldn’t even be challenging for the playoffs. I assume we’ll sign a few more guys and hopefully at least one of them will be an impact player, so it’s kinda pointless to be making predictions now.
30 to 35 wins period!
THey don’t have enough talent to win more than that. Sign bad coach and three d-league
players thats not going to get you better than 35 wins sorry. I said it since last season if
you don’t bring in a winning coach and players the clippers will continue to be the
luvable losers of always.
30 wins
Pretty uneventful summer. We pretty much took a step backwards from last off-season. Let’s see… as of today we are going to lose Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw, Craig Smith, Drew Gooden and Rasual Butler from a 29 win team. We get back Eric Bledsoe, Aminu, Sofo, Ryan Gomes and Randy Foye. At best that seems like a wash, in fact short term wise we are worse off. So we are back to where we were last year, waiting for Blake Griffin to save the Clippers from themselves.
FA in 2010.
hmmm
as or right now:
Last year → This year
Steve Blake/Telfair → Foye
Bobby Brown → Bledsoe/Warren?
Rasual Butler → Gomes
Thornton/Outlaw → AFA
Camby/Gooden → Blake Griffin
Craig Smith → Sofo
Brian Skinner → Brian Cook
hmm doesn’t seem like we got much better, but doesn’t seem like we got much worse. And still have some money to spend. But really depends on how the rookies really are so at this point it’s really hard to predict.
Phoenix Suns
In a post the Phoenix Suns are about to sign Josh Childress and Hedo Turkolu, why is it that all the other teams in the league have managed to improve their teams even when they lose a important player to free agency, but we always seem to go after or attract, players that no other team wants. Did Brian Cook contact the Clippers front office and tell them he would play for the league minimum? because i don’t see any other team looking him up to sign him,only us. Is it that no other players in this league want to play for the Clippers? What are we really trying to do, we have the money for good free agent talent,but we always seem to over pay or squander the money on players that make no impact in improving this team.
I'll say 30-34 wins, and that's being optmistic...
I really think we’ll struggle to win 30.
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jul 12, 2010 12:54 AM PDT reply actions
I'd got for the 30-35 win bracket
but this year is about getting VDN to develop our young core of AFA, BG, EJ, DJ, EB and give them some minutes. Other than DJ, that is 4 of our future starting 5 I believe so this will be a very interesting year, although we might not see the W’s on the board, I’m looking forward to watching a team play hard every night under my cousin Vinny.
Bingo! Oh me oh my!
again, sticking around 40
maybe slightly over 40. i really think the clippers packed it in last year after griffin’s injury was announced for the rest of the season, when they were 17-19 coming off that grizzlies loss. had griffin come back, i think this team wouldve stayed steady (and kept camby) and possibly finished slightly over .500. i think instead, that’ll happen this year.
Any increase in victories is contingent on Blake Griffin
His presence on the team is the only real change. Other than VDN, or course.
Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)
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