Questions....
by Akram47 on Jul 28, 2010 11:53 AM PDT
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PrintDoes anyone know how much cap room we have left?
Does anyone know what the roster count is so far?
Does anyone know what happened to the $4 million we recieved from the Marcus Camby trade?
Does anyone know how where the trade exceptions we received from the Zach Randolph ended up?
Does anyone know what the next position the front office will be looking to fill?
Does anyone know what the coaching staff has lined up as a perceived depth chart?
(Is Rasual Butler the starting 3, back up 3 behind Gomes, or 3rd tier back up behind Aminu?)
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I just did too. :-)
The DVD story seems almost too preposterous to believe. I get the outside sense that Olshey and the Clips were playing dumb, for some covert reason. Clipperblog was suggesting a while back that their real discussion with Lebron concerned what might happen three years from now.
Like most things these days, the FO is either pretty clever or pretty lame. Inquiring minds would like to know.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
I think...
lame
Hopefully I’m wrong…
"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling
Some answers
1) Hard to tell since the Clippers are being extra secretive as they go about their business. Probably guess $6M or less at this point? Just a guess.
2) I have 13 after Butler?
3) It paid for two years of Brian Cook, duh
4) Any remaining part vanished when the team went under the salary cap and used that space to sign Gomes and Foye, and was going to expire on 7/17 anyway.
5) Ticket agent hopefully? Some dude called me and was real high pressure and lame. I told him to buzz off.
6) I would stack players by pay and assume that is the depth chart. Butler might be the exception if he is getting less than Gomes got.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
I didn't count him
Despite the “partially guaranteed” language, it seems like the truth is that it is a make good contract. They can still cut him with little penalty. Except some cash. Which might be a big penalty to DTS depending on where his head is at.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
You think Butler starts over Gomes?
What happened to Olshey being tired of having 2’s play as disguised 3’s?
Do we know anything about the signings they made?
Do we even know what the terms were for Bledsoe’s contract?
This new regime is mighty secretive.
Yes, that's one of the most important questions...
It’s significant and I think it will have to be made public eventually. Weird that neither team has revealed terms. It’s a terrible trade if its not top twelve protected. But it might be top ten or lottery or (shudder) top five?
I guess it depends on how you feel about Bledsoe. If Clips think he is their future starter, he and Gordon will probably be the smallest backcourt in the league. And in SL Bledsoe looked like a runty two pretending to be a one. Was he worth a number ten or twelve pick? …because that’s what you probably gave up for him.
Whoa, what up charts!
Seems pretty close. You are probably costing yourself some wins going Aminu over Smith at the 4, but it seems really close to optimal.
Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball
the chart is more showing positional ability over likely rotation
I think the real 2nd unit will be Foye, Butler, Aminu, Rhino and DJ….with a starter subbed in here or there throughout.
I'm excited for Rasual to play SG again...
I still hate it when he dribbles, but at least he’ll be able to play much more in his element.
Wow, nice job on the chart
Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)
If only Ryan Gomes said LeBron James (what)
Oh, now I see, if only LeBron was in the chart instead of Gomes. I was wondering what Gomes was going to say about LeBron bhahahahaha
Is Brian Cook a center?
I’ve been trying to get a straight answer there. My hunch is that he can play there in a pinch, but it’ll likely draw some blood.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
We should stick him in a trashcan...
that’s where he belongs
"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling
Good chart!
Only way to stack them up – given that we need to get Aminu as much burn as possible, and Cook will only be useful if he is stretching the floor to give Blake and Craig room to work in the low post.
"Excellence...is not an act, but a habit" Aristotle
by Cliptomaniac on Jul 29, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Who starts at the 3?
Any takers on that one. I suspect we’ll be trying different combinations there. I wonder if we’ll play to our competition.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
I think Gomes probably will on openening day (barring a last minute trade or injury)
but I wouldn’t be surprised if Aminu became the starter midway through the season. Although it would be nice to one starting lineup for once.
"baron doesn’t need electricity, he generates power from the BEARD"
Worlock
I can see...
Chief starting if we fall out of playoff contention and VDN decides he’s going to go into full on development mode. All of this is of course predicated on the fact that he doesn’t get injured in some freak accident prior to the season.
But, of course, I hope that he isn’t starting because it could mean we are playing some competitive ball and they are going with a more veteran starting 5. Would REALLY like to see some competitive ball next season…
"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling
Competitive ball would super nice
I’m so punch drunk, I’m mostly cheering against freak injuries and non-sensical trades.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Seriously...
So are we definately sticking with the same training staff that has presided over years and years of “freak” injuries, slow recovery times and out of shape players? Thats a question that I’d like answered not listed above….
"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling
Seriously...
So are we sticking with the same training staff that has presided over years and years of freak injuries, slow recovery times and out of shape players? That’s a question I’d like to the answer to not listed above….
"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling
My guess
is the team signed Powell to a 10 year guaranteed contract awhile back and the team rather have him around then pay for a new training staff.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Jul 28, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
My guess
is the team signed Powell to a 10 year guaranteed contract awhile back and the team rather have him around then pay for a new training staff.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Jul 28, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
stupid preview
love the double post when sbnation system is lagging .
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Jul 28, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I know that's supposed to be a joke
but it’s even more sad that it’s borderline reasonable under current ownership..
haha...
thats funny but sad….I just dont get why they’re keeping this guy? He may be great at selling himself but his track record is awful.
Does he have some pictures of DTS getting a “massage”…only thing I can think of.
"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling
No way VDN goes into developmental mode...
This is a one year test for Baron Davis and Vinny the Mook. If they fail to go .500 or close to it, Baron’s gone… Vinny might talk fast enough to spare himself but I doubt it. These two guys are in pass-fail mode from day one.
If I look in my crystal ball I occasionally see a third noose for Neil Olshey but it fades in and out. He saved big Don a lot of cash this year and Mister Sterling appreciates the favor.
Does Olshey have...
aspirations to coach ala Kiki Vandeweghe? If so, he may be setting VDN up for failure while getting in DTS’ good-side, simply to fire VDN and coach the team himself?
Ridiculous? yes. But when you’re talking about the Clips, anything weird is in play…
"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling
Gomes
until at least mid-season. AFA might take it from him by then depending on the team’s record at that point and his progression as a rookie.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Jul 28, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Is VDN from the same MDsr mentality when it comes to matchups? i.e. starters, esp the 3, will depend on how the clips match up to the opponents?
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
We would have to ask a Bulls fan about that
"baron doesn’t need electricity, he generates power from the BEARD"
Worlock
Chris Kaman and Deandre Jordan are our only C
We need a back up C other than DJ or at least a big PF, with some legit size like 6’10… we seem undersized down low after our starters.
AFA: "Smart dudes that know the game of basketball"
You can always e-mail the front office, im sure they would know, and yes they will respond, Andy Roeser has always responded to any question i have e-mailed him. aroeser@clippers.com, he’s even asked me to call him,when i had a detailed question,so clipper nation if you have a question, go directly to the source,you just may get your answer.
by heights on Jul 28, 2010 1:45 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That's good to know
I’ll be taking advantage. Thanks for the tip!
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
I e-mailed him and asked him why even bother with Brian Cook...
His response:
“Mr. Sterling thought he was the cheapest free agent that would be willing to sign here.”
There you have it.
I've got nothing.
I am guessing that is sarcasm
also all FA’s can sign for the same base low, and I doubt Cook was the only FA that was willing to take the minimum.
"baron doesn’t need electricity, he generates power from the BEARD"
Worlock
Not Resigned
So who hasn’t been resigned and not rejoining the team for the 2010-2011 Season?
by lovinglosangeles on Jul 28, 2010 2:37 PM PDT reply actions
Starting at the 3
I wonder if we would be in the same situation last year.
Start the athletic “scorer” Gomes or AFA
realize it doesn’t fit with Kaman, (Camby) Griffin, Gordon, Baron
they need a floor spreader
enter Rasaul Butler
……..
My guess is that as long as Gomes shows he can knock down the 3point shot consistently then he will start. AFA could also start if he develops a good shot behind the arc.
Last years starts shows that floor spreader at the 3 is better than an another athletic scorer as the 5th option.
R.I.P. Lorenzen Wright November 4, 1975 - July 28, 2010
I wish Butler the floor-spreader shot the ball better
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Or even...
if he just TOOK better shots. I’m not gonna eat a guys lunch for having a bad day, but when you’re jacking up prayers with plenty of time left on the clock, you’re working with one hand tied behind your back to begin with.
That point is compounded by the fact that we have a C who doesn’t realize he’s 7 feet tall so he hangs out outside the paint waiting to take a fall away 20-footer instead of staying in the paint and collecting the myriad missed shots by Sool and BD
"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling
Totally dsagree
if you saw some of the horrible lineups the Clips had at the end of the Yr, R Butler was seriously the 2nd option on offense. Some of those shots had to be taken….otherwise a Bobby Brown or D Jordan would be taking the shot.
As far as your Criticism of Kaman, last yr was clearly his best yr, and the development of his mid-range jumper was crucial. Did he take a few bad shots? Yes, but again, the lack of scoring options at the end of the season necessitated said bad shots. Overall, I think Kaman has developed into the very good but not great Center the fans envisioned when he was drafted. I’m not sure what expectations you had/have of Kaman, but he’s definitely more of a scoring Center than a pure defensive Center. His value is in his scoring.
This is going to be my team, and we're going to rise together.
-Clipper Darrell
I see your points...
and respect them. But there are plenty of guys in the league who are “the Man” in their lineup, whether its 1st, 2nd or 3rd unit who still look to create some sort of a high percentage shot. Sool would step back and jack a 30 footer with a solid 15 seconds left on the clock WAY too many times last year IMO. He has some touch so maybe VDN can get his shot IQ up a little bit.
As for Kaman, I agree his value is offense but then BG needs to be an absolute defensive stud. Camby was that guy but he was dumped for what we now know was nothing. If Kaman cannot/will not play D, it puts a heck of a lot of pressure on our “rookie” PF to pull down 10-15 rebounds / game. And that, at least IMO, makes him less valuable than a Camby for instance…
"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling
"...so he hangs out outside the paint waiting to take a fall away 20-footer instead of staying in the paint and collecting the myriad missed shots by Sool and BD"
No worries, Blake will surely go for those.
“if he just TOOK better shots. . …but when you’re jacking up prayers with plenty of time left on the clock, you’re working with one hand tied behind your back to begin with.”
So I’m guessing he won’t be “playing the right way”, so that means Del Negro will have somebody on the floor who does.
by Takebb909 on Jul 28, 2010 9:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I like Kaman's game...
I hope he gets to hack up a few 3’s in-game before his career is over. Only thing i wish he would improve is his handle….or maybe just dribble less.
My logic is, if you can hit the 20 footer, why dribble into a double team without the intent of finding the open man?
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