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Wha Hahppen? VDN gets the nod

SP doesn't seem to be around this evening.  So I'll put it up on top:  the Clips have apparently reached an agreement for Vinny Del Negro to be the next coach of the storied franchise.  Reports are coming in from KA and Lisa Dillman.  The thing to look at is KA's older post, from last week, about the comparison between VDN and Casey and the styles they represent.  KA also reported earlier this week that VDN had been extremely impressive in his interviews with the Clippers.  We have to assume, I think, that the Clips were like all of us outsiders, knowing that Casey looked much better on paper, that he had a system and all sorts of experience.  But I just read the earlier breakdown, and KA mentions the strong improvement of Noah and Gibson under VDN's watch, along with the steady early success of Derrick Rose.  With all of the Clipper youngsters, this counts for a lot.  And VDN may have a more dynamic and salable media presence.  Who knows.  

There's a good discussion over at the fan posts, where this news went up 3 hours ago.  Any further thoughts, before SP gets here?

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I would have rather had Casey

but I think that Del Negro is still a good choice. He has shown to be good at developing youth and made the playoffs two years in a row despite losing his top scorer in the second season. I think Del Negro will benefit from having a true post player in Kaman and will finally have some outside shooting as well.

LeBron or Bust !!!!

by bestclipfan on Jul 6, 2010 10:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Credit for Noah and Rose's improvement

Not sure how much credit should go to coaches for this one. For starters Rose was the #1 pick and considered a can’t miss prospect. Noah was the best player on back to back NCAA Champions. I would expect a bunch of talented 20 year olds to get better year over year regardless of who was coaching them.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Jul 6, 2010 10:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Question is

How much credit does he deserve for Taj Gibson’s development?

Any alleged credit for Rose and Noah is silly. Rose is as good as expected. Nothing more, nothing less. Noah gives what everyone expected him to give.

It’s not as if under VDN Rose suddenly developed skills or abilities he didn’t exhibit under Calipari. Same with Noah. He hasn’t “developed” per se. Instead he’s just shown why he was so successful in college.

But Gibson was a very average college player. He certainly wasn’t dominant. His production has been surprising.

by madglove on Jul 6, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Taj was pretty good

15 points, 9 rebounds 3 blocks is nothing to frown at. Shouldn’t Paxson get credit for drafting him so late? How come Tyrus Thomas, Luol Deng or James Johnson didn’t improve?

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Jul 6, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the Pac-10

Not exactly a league known for its bigs. AJ Bramlett averaged 14 ppg, 9.4 boards and 1.3 blocks as a senior in Arizona. Those stats are virtually meaningless.

Paxson definitely deserves credit for drafting him. I’d say VDN gets a pass on Ty Thomas. If Larry Brown can’t get him to play, who can? Deng had a solid year. I just don’t think he has much room to improve (which is why I’m not in favor of trading for him), and James Johnson was the 16th pick…which is a crapshoot.

by madglove on Jul 6, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked Taj in college.

Many Bulls fans were upset when he was drafted. I thought it was a good pick for them and that they would be pleasantly surprised. He ended up being even better than I was expecting for them (given a bigger role than I was expecting). To me, he just did what he does well. He rebounds, plays some D, knows his strengths and limitations on offense.

by Lawler 4ever on Jul 6, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really wanted Casey...

I hope this was not a money saving move. I will not knock him—- and will give him a fair shot.

by ChrisS.Oaks on Jul 6, 2010 10:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Lets just wait it out and see where Vinny takes us....

I don’t know what the hiring process was like, but I would like to think that the Clippers front office took into consideration that Vinny Del Negro took a young, mediocre team to a .500 record back to back seasons. I’m not saying it was great, but it shows a lot of character and knowledge from Del Negro because his Bulls team does not compare to our Clippers. So if he can take that team to a decent record, I believe he can do way better with the Clippers. Plus, he has proven to make young players grow and make them more knowledgeable of the game. He coached Derrick Rose during his ROY and All-Star campaign. If he can get B. Diddy back to All-Star form and without a doubt, Blake Griffin to become ROY, I think the Clippers will create a positive outcome with Del Negro as our center of team chemistry. So, we should stand behind him, the players, and our front office as they/we move on with the franchise, post-Dunleavy/Baylor era. GO CLIPPERS!

by Hengtime81 on Jul 6, 2010 10:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll give vinny a shot

Let’s face it…. The clips have an image problem. And another X’s ans O’s coach may not be best for that image post dunleavy. So let’s try a little Vinny and see what some fire under our guys can do.

by snackbar on Jul 6, 2010 11:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

disappointed but hoping for the best...

first thing that came to mind was the $2 million the bulls owe del negro next year factored into sterling’s decision making because he still owed dunleavy like 5 million next year?

by whyamiaclippersfan on Jul 6, 2010 10:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I think everyone has it wrong

Del Negro was Lebron’s choice.

Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball

by John R on Jul 6, 2010 10:54 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I'll name my first born Vinny

if that happens, doesn’t even matter if its a girl.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Jul 6, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will too...

Doh! He’s already “Aminu”.

"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT

by SilverClip on Jul 6, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll name my kid Del Negro

He may get beat up a lot though…oh well

by banandy on Jul 6, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

OH ME OH MY

"Smart dudes that know the game of basketball." - Al-Farouq Aminu referring to his new teammates

by Regulan on Jul 6, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

i knew it

Casey was the frontrunner until the Clips met with LeBron. And LeBron announced that he will have a press conference on thursday… about the same time Vinny Del Negro was announced as the Clippers choice. no coincidence there

by DocD on Jul 6, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I think you are right

I believe that LeBron did request a recently fired .500 coach.

We’re on the right track.

Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)

by mikey p on Jul 7, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wanted VDN

his players always played hard, his players vouched for him after the season, and he has head coaching experience in the playoffs.

WIN

by bacek on Jul 6, 2010 11:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Hopefully we're getting VDN 2.0

And he’s learned from what he did right and wrong in Chicago and can improve on that the way that Gentry seemed t have improve since his time coaching the Clippers. Yes, Gentry went back to being an assistant and VDN has never been an assistant, but even coaches can learn from their mistakes. We need him to do well so I’m wishing him the best of luck.

by chrisd on Jul 6, 2010 11:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Del Negro

has potential to do a great job for the Clips and remember, a chance still exists that LeBron could come. That would be huge for the Clippers and hopefully they’ll put the Lakers in their place ASAP!

Brad James

by the new Bradfather on Jul 6, 2010 11:14 PM PDT reply actions  

So how will Baron operate with Vinny?

Any ideas as to how these 2 may get along?

by snackbar on Jul 6, 2010 11:16 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Probably pretty well

Vinny is known as a players coach.

LeBron or Bust !!!!

by bestclipfan on Jul 6, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not from what I have heard

he pretty much let Rose had free reign, if anything he is known as the opposite he is known as having a small playbook and using the fast break a lot.

LeBron or Bust !!!!

by bestclipfan on Jul 6, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't envision Casey sending Vinny a Christmas card in the future.

Not his fault obviously but still – talk about a thorn in your side.

by RAR on Jul 6, 2010 11:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I think they hired Vinny due to his last name.

Sterling couldn’t help but giggle every time he said it.

I've got nothing.

by bc56274 on Jul 6, 2010 11:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Wasn't DTS racist comment about

Blacks (African Americans) and Mexicans?

“Del Negro” is like from both worlds in that case

by KidJustin on Jul 7, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

OH ME OH MY

"Smart dudes that know the game of basketball." - Al-Farouq Aminu referring to his new teammates

by Regulan on Jul 7, 2010 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't it be wild if

LBJ was so impressed playing against the Bulls coached by VDN that he made up his mind…“Ok next season, this is the guy I want to play for. So goodbye Cleveland, hello Chi-Town!”

time passes….Bulls server ties with VDN

LBJ…“Ok so I guess no more Bulls…I’ll follow where VDN is going….I wonder which team will pick him up?….”

by KidJustin on Jul 7, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

ramona

shes quickly become my favorite clipper writer

by shap on Jul 7, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, she is pretty good

between her and Lisa the clippers have some very good writers for the team.

LeBron or Bust !!!!

by bestclipfan on Jul 7, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

They're great writers

Sometimes I wonder if they’re forced to write about the Clippers though by their management just cause they’re chicks. No one else wants to so they make the women do it.

http://bcnbatalk.wordpress.com/ - Scoops on Hoops!

by peterghost on Jul 7, 2010 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

hope not

they’re both talented, and i think talent like that in sports journalism gets recognized regardless of gender. it just happens that the majority of writers are male because the majority of sports fans (particularly in the nba, nfl, mlb) are male.

by shap on Jul 7, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why Del Negro? Obvious

Having worked for a while with the Suns, he knows this division. He is very familiar with this division and its teams. He knows what it takes to come out on top in this division. He knows (and everyone else by now) that this division is practically one good Kobe injury away from being WIDE OPEN. The Suns just got weaker (no Amar’e), the Warriors and Kings are very inexperienced, so the Lakers are only threat, and STILL the Clippers were able to go toe to toe against them last season, splitting the season series WITHOUT Griffin or whoever else comes along this season. Del negro did a great job with the Bulls, a GREAT job, considering what the Bulls had.
I know he’ll do even better in LA. He got better parts in place here, and he stands up for his team unlike Dunbleavy with his slicked hairred laid back approach. I love this hire, yes, it is better than Casey. Del Negro has attitude and swagger, something the Clippers MUST have in order to RISE UP like they say they will do.

We are gonna Rise Up with Vinny.

Chupa! Chupa!

by DonaldSterlingSucks on Jul 7, 2010 1:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Dunleavy = "laud back"?

I’m sorry but you just lost all credibility with that line.

Dunleavy was many things, but laid back was not one of them.

by madglove on Jul 7, 2010 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

he seemed that way to me last season

almost as if he just didn’t wanna coach the team…each game doing less and less until he finally stepped down, like he didn’t wanna deal with it…hence my description…you don’t like it, fine.

And, thanks. I guess I had credibility before :)

Chupa! Chupa!

by DonaldSterlingSucks on Jul 7, 2010 1:32 AM PDT reply actions  

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