Carmelo for Blake Griffin?
by mctknow on Aug 24, 2010 8:27 AM PDT
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The Denver Post is reporting the Clippers may be interested in acquiring Carmelo Anthony in a possible trade for Blake Griffin. If this is true, i hope we consider trading Kaman instead and attempt at keeping Carmelo at the SF. I think we've invested too much time with Griffin to just give him up before he plays ONE official minute in the regular season. here's the link
Carmelo to the Clipps?
what are everyone else thoughts on this?
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The link only speculates that Denver might ask for Griffin in a trade
The writer doesn’t appear to have any connection or source within the Clippers, and his piece would appear to be mostly speculation. Of course Denver would ask for the Clippers’ best player in a trade for their best player. Acquiring BG would provide the Nuggets with a tidy resolution to their impasse with Carmelo, help with the salary cap and keep them a perrenial playoff contender. There’s nothing to dislike about that from their perspective.
Carmelo scores a lot of points but otherwise is a highly overrated player. Even as a scorer, he’s fairly inefficient, and is a poor 3 point shooter. Only once have the Nuggets advanced past the first round of the playoffs with Anthony. BG has the potential to be the more productive player and is much cheaper, too. He seems to be a great lockerroom presence with an incredible work ethic. He should become the face of the franchise for many years to come, as untouchable a Clipper as has ever been.
This article seems like it was written by a Lakers fan
Yea we will trade you Sasha for Blake Griffin! pfft,,,, Lets get real here. If we could obtain Melo for draft picks and Kaman, do it! But trading Blake Griffin is a joke.
id have to admit, id probably jump the clip ship if that happened
I can honestly say that this would be the most depressing thing that could ever happen. Plus, why would melo want to be here without griffin? That has to be one of the appealing characteristics of our team. BG would be untouchable if I made the decisions. The only trade possibility I’d think about is lbj or the durantula. Outside of that, I’m picking potential over a good player with a shady attitude and no proven track record of winning
by indy818 on Aug 24, 2010 9:12 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
nope!
Blake will be long term. Melo is short term.
by LAClippers1983 on Aug 24, 2010 9:13 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Id go as far..
as EJ and Kaman for Melo.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 24, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
That trade only makes sense if he Melo signs an extension before the trade or immedietly after
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by bestclipfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I am under the assumption that extending Melo would be a prerequisite to any deal.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
okay but that is definitely a very big prerequisite
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by bestclipfan on Aug 24, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Either or
Aminu might be necessary for salary purposes though. I figured the Nuggets wanted someone to come in right away. The Minnesota pick might actually be more valuable (but have to wait 2 years for it).
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 24, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been pushing for Carmelo...
ever since the Clips lost out on LeBron. Melo has shown to be an effective go-to guy, something this franchise has lacked for a very long time. Of course, nothing is guaranteed…but if we can get Carmelo without giving up Griffin and Gordon, the Clips have to do it.
After this lackluster offseason, the Clips owe it to the remaining few of us in the fanbase to at pursue Carmelo.
by Shawn H on Aug 24, 2010 10:12 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Carmelo
would only be a one year rental anyway…so why make any trade, unless of course the Clips could lock him up long term. If that were the case, I would explore trading anyone but Griffin and Gordon.
Do or do not. There is no try.
Disagree
with Gordon. Denver might as for somthing back that has proven potential. AFA, Bledsoe, Warren, and DJ are young and unproven. Gordon has shown that he can hang as a sg. Might possibly want a scorer for a scorer as well as something else to make the contract meet.
I think Denver is on the verge of blowing it all up and starting over
Most of their guys are on expiring contracts.
Not really...
just Smith and Kenyon Martin. They could do what the Mavericks do and trade their expiring deals for serviceable players. Martin’s big expiring contract will be very valuable around the deadline as the pretenders will want to dump salary prior to the 2011 potential lockout.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 24, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Virtually their entire starting lineup
JR, KMart, Carmelo (obviously), Anthony Carter, Billups has a non-guaranteed after this year, Nene has an ETO after this year. They are in a great place cap-wise after this season to do…anything.
My assumption is that they go the youth route and tank it if they think Ty Lawson is their future PG. I guess if they do want to keep Billups until he retires, then yeah, see what you can get to still be a playoff caliber team. But you’re not going to get dollar for dollar in current talent value with Carmelo. Trading Carmelo for future (unknown) value could be a wash.
So wouldn't it make sense
to start with a proven potential? That’s under my assumption that they would want Griffin (but he SHOULD be untouchable) so the next best option is Gordon and Kaman and if they REALLY want, DJ.
Carmelo for Griffin?
throw in Gordon and you have a deal DTS would do
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I don't think so
even in his bad interviews DTS was emphasizing that he really likes BG. And also I don’t really think that DTS has really any influence on moves since he doesn’t even know who is on the team.
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by bestclipfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
DTS would trade the young and (relatively) cheap player for the expensive player?
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I disagree with this line..
“I think we’ve invested too much time with Griffin”
We really haven’t invested that much time in Griffin. It’s about 1 year, not really THAT much. Potentially the wrong logic to use. It would have probably been better to say we have anticipated Griffin’s arrival into the NBA for a year now or somewhere along the lines. I think we’ve invested ALOT of time on Kaman, but surely not Griffin.
Not really
Us as FANS have anticipated Griffin’s arrival. The team has had him for over a year now.
Not only that, but they invested tons of man hours for rehab, and even bought new physical therapy equipment for him to use. They’ve definitely put a lot into Griffin (rightly so).
First of all, we wouldn't trade Blake Griffin for him.
Secondly, if Carmelo chose to play for the Clippers it would be to play with Blake Griffin. Any trade deal involving Melo has to be Melo approved, since he has to agree to the extension first. Just as Kobe didn’t want to be traded for half of the Bulls team when he demanded his trade, Melo wouldn’t want to come to the Clippers to play without Griffin.
No Griffin!
I would do in a minute Baron, DJ and minny’s 2012 pick if Carmelo extends.
This trade only goes down if Melo will extend
so everyone that is throwing out the point that Melo won’t extend is making a moot point.
If that is the case, Melo for Griffin and picks is more than fair.
Melo is a top 10 overall talent. Griffin has the potential to be but that remains to be seen.
It is a lot easier to find role players that can rebound. It is extremely hard to find offensive talent like Melo.
No way
I like Carmelo’s game, but he won’t be leading a team to the NBA Finals anytime soon. He’s not an elite #1 superstar.
Now, we’re not sure if Griffin is either, but it would behoove us to keep him and find out.
Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)
plus 1
I’m kinda baffled as to why everyone’s so in love with Carmelo. He’s a high scorer but not very efficient and not much of a defender… and he costs you the max. So, in all likelihood, you’re gonna have to make some heavy sacrifices down the line. Plus… he’s an annoying punk.
Well said
Not everyone’s in love with the idea of getting Carmelo. Wasn’t sure if I just had an irrational dislike for the guy, but apparantly I’m not alone. I don’t see a huge difference between Carmelo and Rudy Gay. Carmelo just dominates the ball a little more – a few more points on a few more shots with more turnovers. Neither is a good investment if the goal is winning.
I keep hearing that from you
that he’s a punk. I haven’t heard much news about Carmelo, but what makes him a punk?
Hahaha
but other than those NBA fights, he hasn’t gotten in trouble with the law right…?? Yeah he got caught drinking and driving and yes, it’s serious, but it’s not as serious as gun pocession charges and punching hookers.
I mean.. its funny. Zach Randolph decks Louis Amundson. He moves to Memphis and now their praising how much Randolph has matured. It’s like using the past on Melo; I feel it to be a tad bit unfair.
He's had a little more
this is jacked from wiki. I remember the snitches and marijuana ones.
Since entering the NBA, Anthony has been the subject of numerous controversies. In 2004, he was cited for marijuana possession, after inspectors at Denver International Airport found marijuana in his backpack. Charges were later dropped after Anthony’s friend, James Cunningham, of St. Louis, signed an affidavit taking responsibility for the marijuana. That same year, Anthony appeared in a video entitled, Stop Snitchin’, which warned that residents of Baltimore who collaborated with the police would face violence.] Anthony later distanced himself from this video. In 2006, Anthony’s friend, Tyler Brandon Smith, was pulled over in Anthony’s vehicle and cited for marijuana possession and three traffic violations. Later that year, he was involved in the infamous Knicks–Nuggets brawl during a game at Madison Square Garden. He was suspended 15 games as a result.
On April 14, 2008, Anthony was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence, after being pulled over on southbound Interstate 25 at 20th Street in Denver for weaving through lanes and not dimming his lights. Police spokesperson Detective Sharon Hahn said Anthony, who was alone in the car, failed a series of sobriety tests. He was ticketed and then released at police headquarters to a “sober responsible party.” A court date was set for May 14. The Nuggets suspended Anthony for two games due to the arrest. On June 24, 2008, Anthony pleaded guilty to a charge of driving while ability-impaired. The original sentence of driving while under the influence was dropped, and he was subsequently sentenced to one year of probation, 24 hours of community service and US$1,000 in court costs and fines.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 25, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I let go of the Mary Janes
as I looked it up on Wiki also. Apparently those were dropped (and it was 04).
The "Stop Snitchin’ " was probably a mistake and he realized it, as he distanced himself from it.
Tyler Smith, if I read it correctly, was the one cited for Mary Jane possessions.
But overall, Anthony donates alot to chairty, and I really doubt it’s for tax writer-offs too like DTS. (Stolen from Wiki also)
bq.Off the court, Anthony donates time and money to causes in Denver and Baltimore. In Denver, Anthony is a spokesman for the Family Resource Center and helps organize a Christmas party, entitled “A Very Melo Christmas,” for less well-off children. In Baltimore, Anthony hosts an annual 3-on-3 tournament, known as “Melo’s H.O.O.D. Movement 3 on 3 Challenge (Holding Our Own Destiny)” and is helping fund the revitalization of a local community center for local youth.1109 Anthony opened “The Carmelo Anthony Youth Development Center” in Baltimore on December 14, 2006. He contributed $1.5 million to the Living Classrooms Foundation, a non-profit organization that “provides innovative hands-on-education, job-training and community service programs for over 35,000 children, youth and young adults in the east Baltimore community.”110 After the tsunami caused by the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, Anthony donated $35,000 to relief efforts. He donated $1,000 per point scored against San Antonio and Houston on January 8 and 9, 2005 respectively.1 Anthony also committed $3 million toward the construction of a newly-planned basketball practice facility at his alma mater, Syracuse University. According to the NBA’s official website, “Anthony’s gift represents one of the largest individual donations to Syracuse University Athletics and is also believed to be one of largest by a current professional athlete to the school they attended.”111 The practice facility will be called the Carmelo K. Anthony Basketball Center. For charitable contributions totaling $4,282,000, Anthony was listed as number eight in “The Giving Back 30 List of Largest Charitable Donations by Celebrities in 2006” 112
*sigh forgot to space
Off the court, Anthony donates time and money to causes in Denver and Baltimore. In Denver, Anthony is a spokesman for the Family Resource Center and helps organize a Christmas party, entitled “A Very Melo Christmas,” for less well-off children. In Baltimore, Anthony hosts an annual 3-on-3 tournament, known as “Melo’s H.O.O.D. Movement 3 on 3 Challenge (Holding Our Own Destiny)” and is helping fund the revitalization of a local community center for local youth.1109 Anthony opened “The Carmelo Anthony Youth Development Center” in Baltimore on December 14, 2006. He contributed $1.5 million to the Living Classrooms Foundation, a non-profit organization that “provides innovative hands-on-education, job-training and community service programs for over 35,000 children, youth and young adults in the east Baltimore community.”110 After the tsunami caused by the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, Anthony donated $35,000 to relief efforts. He donated $1,000 per point scored against San Antonio and Houston on January 8 and 9, 2005 respectively.1 Anthony also committed $3 million toward the construction of a newly-planned basketball practice facility at his alma mater, Syracuse University. According to the NBA’s official website, “Anthony’s gift represents one of the largest individual donations to Syracuse University Athletics and is also believed to be one of largest by a current professional athlete to the school they attended.”111 The practice facility will be called the Carmelo K. Anthony Basketball Center. For charitable contributions totaling $4,282,000, Anthony was listed as number eight in “The Giving Back 30 List of Largest Charitable Donations by Celebrities in 2006” 112
Jack...
Wait… I guarantee you every nickel Carmelo donated, relief efforts, Syracuse U, his own charities… it’s ALL tax deductible, every nickel… and nothing wrong with that at all. But you want to cut him a lot of breaks down the line. Both his little possession ARRESTS (Lamar Odom got caught but there was never an arrest)… and on one of them his buddy took the fall for something that was in HIS car. Niiice work.
The Knick’s- Nugs fight was really on Melo… and what about that fight in the Olympics! I don’t remember the specifics and I guess there have recently been worse, but it’s the OLYMPICS! Okay, let’s let him sail on the DUI, sure, okay. And the worst was that “Snitches” thing which was HORRIBLE… really totally gang-related crap that was anti-police (but that’s okay, he “distanced” himself. Yeah, when my wife got pregnant I tried to do that to only… well… she called me on that crap.) And then there’s the on-the-court antics… crappy, me-first attitude… sure I can live with that… I mean the guy can really fill it up! So, he throws a few headbands? What about the fact that he’ never really shows up in shape and hasn’t led his team anywhere?
Jack, the guy’s a punk. It’s undeniable.
But, you know, I don’t really care. If he played defense and passed the ball once in a while and tried to pull his teammates up with him… if he played like Brandon Roy or Kevin Durant… I’d be all over it… negative social attitude be damned. Really .
between weed, the stop snitchin tape, and the fight...
…the only thing i have a problem with is the fight. and only because he threw a sucker punch and ran.
what’s wrong with weed? nothing.
what’s wrong with not talkin to the cops? nothing.
but again, we ain’t givin up blake. blake is the face of our franchise.
+1
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Aug 26, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Nothin wrong with weed if it was legal.
And it isn’t.
- Don’t get me wrong, I actually believe pot should be legalized. But Carmelo Anthony is a public figure playing for fanbase who pay a lot to see him play basketball. He didn’t get flagged by a urine test. He carried a bag of pot into an airport and driving around with it in his car. He got arrested… for pot, but it also could have been for irresponsibility and stupidity.
- “Stop Snitchin’” was a plea directed at gang-members that threatened violence against would-be informants by self-described drug dealers. If you want to support gangs I guess that’s your prerogative. Nothing like a good drive-by-shooting on a Saturday night.
But you want your team to pay 20 million dollars to a guy who hangs out with or supports a cause supported by drug-dealers that is clearly anti-law authority? You want to support that guy by watching him play or buying his uni shirt? Then you’re stupid.
He cleaned up his act some right?
I don’t think Team USA or the Olympics committee would let him play if he was that big of a problem.
I never thought Melo was a top level superstar, he’s more of a perennial all-star in the Dominique, Chris Mullin mold. I do think adding him improves the team and if the Clips can use whatever remaining cap space to sign a solid vet like Dampier then the Clippers become a legitimate playoff team. They also get cap exceptions next year to sign another C (maybe Tyson Chandler comes back home to LA?) and now the Clippers are a perennial playoff team. They add another nice young useful player via the Minnesota pick and another MLE in 2012 and they are a possible title contender. It’s a step by step process and the only way a team can build towards a Championship. Signing interchangeable parts like Foye and Gomes is not the answer either.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 26, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't wholly disagree...
I’m still responding to people who wonder why I call Melo a “punk”. Maybe I have too long a memory. But defending his pot bust or the “stop snitchin’” campaign by saying, “what’s wrong with weed” or “what’s wrong with not talkin to the cops” is ludicrous. You can’t dismiss anti-social (and illegal) behavior so simply.
But that said, maybe the guy has matured and changed. For his sake, I hope so. (Of course, we’re entirely forgiving the current ungrateful behavior he (and his agents) are exhibiting in their attitude towards the Nuggets and their fans. CAA is behaving like a bunch of racketeers.)
My initial point was that Melo is one dimensional and not worth 20 million dollars a year. I’m especially worried about that in light of the Clippers new and unproven coaching staff (if Nate McMillan or Rick Adelman were the coach I would not be so concerned). But that value (the 20M) is, in the larger scheme of things, unimportant.
I’ll change my tune a little. If Carmelo Anthony can be brought to the Clippers in a deal that does not include Eric Gordon, Blake Griffin, or the Minnesota draft pick, AND Vinny Del Negro AND Neil Olshey want the guy, then I think the trade makes sense. I HATE giving up Kaman and would rather give up Bledsoe than the 2011 pick as you suggest (and no matter what anyone else says that is the ONLY pick the Clips can easily include in a trade anyway).
Tyson Chandler? Did you watch him in Greece? He looked like Kwame!
Not possible until Dec 15
Gomes, Foye, Rhino and Butler can’t be moved until then. Actually not sure about Rhino and Butler being moved period, they might have no trade clauses.
In order to make it work, it would have to be Kaman and EJ (or AFA or maybe DJ and Bledsoe).
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 24, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
They didn't
but I believe they can veto any deal they want because they signed one year deals. Devean George used this a few years ago.
“Although Kobe Bryant is the only player in the league with a specific no-trade clause in his contract, league rules dictate that players on a one-year contract — but who also ended last season with the same team and are thus eligible for Early Bird or full Larry Bird free-agent rights at the end of the contract — cannot be traded without their consent. George, who earns $2.4 million this season, is one of 18 such players in the league at present, afforded the right to either approve or veto trades because those Bird rights are lost if they do get traded.”
Sounds like the same would apply to Sool and Rhino.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 24, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Good Point
Anyway, they should be given a chance to play before we give up on them and try to trade them.
Talking about Rhino and Smith?
we’ve already seen them play for a whole year, the Clippers should know these guys as well as anyone.
I’d try Kaman and Bledsoe/Aminu for Melo. Actually using up all of our cap space is a good thing so the team gets the cap exceptions (even with the uncertainty of the next CBA, I don’t think they will have another lockout).
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 25, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
My mistake
I got Rhino and Butler mixed up with Foye and Gomes – so many trade ideas floating around.
However, I wouldn’t trade Kaman for Melo. Just my opinion, but I don’t believe Carmelo really improves a team that much unless it’s a team with a strong defense that can’t score (i.e. the Bobcats last year before trading for Jax). The Clippers don’t need another scorer as much as they need defense and rebounding. Trading Kaman for Carmelo leaves holes in the defense at both SF and C. BG can’t guard everyone.
Melo is a good rebounder for a SF
and Kaman isn’t exactly a defensive stalwart himself. If all we are looking for is D and Rebounding from the Center position that’s the two things DJ is okay at. If the team could offer whatever is left from the cap space (if any) for Dampier then the team is solid. I think if we did Kaman, Bledsoe and Aminu for Melo it would about 3.5 million for Damp.
SG – EJ/Butler
PG – Baron/Foye
C – Damp/DJ
PF – BG/Rhino
SF – Melo/Gomes
With Brian Cook, Blakely and Warren rounding out the bench. Could bring back B Skinnz again for more depth.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 25, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Brian Skinner as a third big.
But I would much rather send out Kaman, Aminu, and a draft pick than Bledsoe. Love his upside, don’t want to lose him so soon.
But yes, I’ve been pushing for a 2 headed center of Damp and DJ. They need only to block and play D. This team would be an instant contender.
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by Gordon for President on Aug 25, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Big hole at center, less upgrade than you think at SF
There’s no guarrantee that the Clippers would end up with Dampier or any other decent center to back up DJ this year. At any rate, Dampier would be a temporary plug at center who shouldn’t be counted on for much. And while DJ may have the potential to become a good defensive center, he’s not there yet and a significant downgrade from Kaman.
While I wouldn’t call Carmelo a bad rebounder as a SF, his career rebounding numbers (per 36 and rebounding %) are slightly worse than those of Gomes. And Aminu is likely to become a much better defender and rebounder than both of them.
Trading Kaman for Anthony would not improve the overall team offense as much as most of us would intuitively believe since Melo’s a relatively inefficient scorer, and the deal would create a major offensive downgrade at center. Melo + DJ is not necessarily an offensive improvement on Gomes + Kaman. Meanwhile the team defense would weaken considerably. Then, you have to consider the trade’s impact on future cap space, which would complicate any attempt to sign a replacement center down the road.
This deal would not significantly improve the Clippers’ chance at the playoffs now or in the future, and it’s better to do nothing and see how the current team shakes out.
Gomes
played some good amount of minutes at PF with TWolves. Surprisingly, he preforms better as a PF than a SF. So his rebounding numbers are somewhat expected to increase if he alternates around at PF and SF.
And I beg to differ with Gomes and Melo. I feel as if there is a significant differnece from Melo to Gomes, as there is from Kaman to DJ. Gomes is a solid role man, while Melo can be your first option. But you do raise a great question: which combination is better? Melo and DJ or Kaman and Gomes? I honestly would take the Melo and DJ combination, but even then I’m not too sure why. I’m sure solid arguements can be made from both sides.
Melo huge upgrade offensively over Kaman
I thought Kaman played pretty well and he is certainly skilled but you can’t run the offense from him every time. He has a lower TS% than Melo and turnover %. It’s a huge upgrade as the #1 option.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 25, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
True but not my argument
It’s the combined substitution of Anthony and DJ for Kaman and Gomes I’m considering as well as how those players fit with the other three starters.
Sure Anthony is a “go-to” scorer, but an offense with Carmelo and Baron leading the way is going to be an incredibly inefficient and unbalanced offense. EJ would be left as the only effective outside shooter, and the inside scoring would fall almost completely to Griffin, who after all is still a rookie. DJ is only good for occaisonal dunks and put-backs.
In my mind those factors even things out quite a bit. In the context of the rest of the Clipper roster, I’d much rather keep the team the way it is. I was one of the voices most bothered by the team’s failure to sign a better starting SF this year, but trading for Anthony would be in the same category as signing JoJo or Gay except the Clippers would have to give up good players, too. In other words signing Melo as a free agent would be a costly mistake so trading for him would be much worse.
A better strategy is to see how all the new players and coach perform. Maybe a Gomes/Aminu combo will surprise us all, and if not maybe there will be an opportunity to pick up someone like Battier or Caron at a much lower cost later.
Don't short-sell Kaman as a defensive presence...
He’s not a big showy shot-blocker like Dwight Howard, but he’s almost always in the right spot and his man-defense is better than average. Plus, he actually tries, which is the rap against Carmelo.
Jeez, the last few days we’ve been treated to the vision of Tyson Chandler, who’s supposed to be a good defensive center… I’m surprised at how sucky he is. Kaman’s much better than that guy.
I see
never heard about that but I have heard of the Devean George deal ordeal. Makes sense now since who the hell would ever give George a no trade contract. Thanks for the info.
Put down
the crack pipe.
No way.
Carmelo is a hell of a talent, but he is the wrong fit for the young Clilppers. I want to see Kaman, EJ, Blake and the 2010 draft class grow for a few years and see if it can be something special. Carmelo would stunt everyone’s growth. And I want to see Blake play this year.
I would do...
Kaman +1, 1st round pick, Aminu for
Carmelo and the BirdMan!
That way we have a serviceable defensive center and an upgrade at SF!
Extension is a MUST if we do this trade!
never
anyone but blake, and preferably not gordon.
lock a trio of carmelo, blake, and gordon and make me a content clipper fan. please.
but im not expecting carmelo to come on board one bit. this story is too familiar for me to get any hopes up.
Melo for Kaman and Aminu
Where are the papers?
Let’s do it!
By the way, with Nene potentially out for some time for the Nuggets, as well (he won’t play in the FIBA World) you KNOW they will need a C, and last I heard Kaman made the All Stars last year (and act of mercy that was) and Nene has yet to make an All Star team, plus with Kenyon potentially leaving (if he’s not traded before Melo is, that is) also, they’ll be very thin up front. They’ll need Kaman a bit more than we’ll need Melo, and I say this based on Gomes and Aminu’s production for us (plus Rasual can play the 3, too, we all know that), the Clips aren’t hurting at SF by any means. Of course, duh, Melo would be a huge upgrade, but only for the players mentioned in my title. No one else.
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by DonaldSterlingSucks on Aug 25, 2010 12:05 PM PDT reply actions
If he is willing to sign an extension I would do it
but we could also wait tell Dec. 15th and trade some of the guys we signed in the offseason like Foye, Gomes, and Cook.
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by bestclipfan on Aug 25, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
It really depends how much longer they expect Billups will hold up..
He’s 34 now, and in NBA years, he’s getting old. If they plan to trade Melo, my assumption is that they could want players to help them rebuild. That means that Bled can become a third string backup pg (a very capable one) and in 2 years, he’ll become their sixth man playing both SG and PG, the way Foye does. And by then, Billups might slow down a bit due to age.
If they trade Melo, they're going into full rebuilding mode
And that means Billups will be on the market.
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To sweeten the pot
We don’t really need Bledsoe either, he’s our 3rd string PG right now. I’d much rather keep the Minnesota pick (and use it to draft a Center in 2 years).
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 25, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
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