A Meditation On Melo: Where He Is, Where He's Been, And Where He Might Go - SBNation.com
A post on SBNation about Carmelo. I've been enjoying the World Championships so much, that I've pretty much ignored the Carmelo rumors. I may jump into the discussion soon. Or not. We'll see.
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I almost forgot how good Melo was pre-NBA
he was basically the #1 pick if LeBron chose to go to college
would have been #2 if Detroit didn’t blow it with Darko
..but I suppose being “misunderstood” are what made players drafted below him (Wade) shine brighter. Which makes me want to take a slight step back if he were to join the Clippers. Can our virtual new team/organization be able to maximize Melo? Its kind of hard to believe even in an optimistic view….
Well, constant scoring the entire game is something the Clippers need, as well as a closer. But Melo does seem to have that ball-hog characteristic…but then It helps that most of the current Clipper players don’t really need the ball. Kaman is really the only want that somewhat demands the ball down low. EJ is a opportunity/efficient scorer and defender. Griffin his a hustle player. Baron was a chucker that is starting to understand his role as a passer…meaning the ball is completely open for Melo on this team.
R.I.P. Lorenzen Wright November 4, 1975 - July 28, 2010
Irony of Clipper fans against Carmelo
They say the team sucks- he would make the Clippers a playoff team THIS YEAR
They say management isn’t committed- the FO would have to give up a lot to get Carmelo, that says commitment to me
They say the Clippers get no respect- Carmelo instantly adds credibility
I do not get why so many people on here are against adding Melo. He is the answer to the things that is most complained about (besides ownership).
Most are for signing Melo I think
It’s the extremely vocal minority (of just a few) who would be against it. Some of them may be afraid of change. Of course, everyone would be against it if the price were too high.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
As Andrew Sharp says in his article,
“It would be really easy to pile onto the Criticize Carmelo bandwagon right about now, but it just makes no sense.”
Pretty Good Argument
Sharp makes it seem like a no brainer. Especially for a team like the Clippers.
It’s interesting that in the comments some one points out that the Clips should be frontrunners, and Sharp says he’s skeptical that they can get it together to make the trade. Then he adds later that “they didn’t land Kobe,” or something like that. But Kobe punked the Clippers and used them to establish his value to Buss. Hardly the Clippers fault.
Still, it’s a legit question of whether Olshey has it together to make a deal like this. There’s also the question of whether VDN is the right guy to coach a team with BDavis, Melo, Griffin, Gordon etc. Changes the equation.
As far as fit goes, I wonder if players like Blake Griffin and Eric Gordon would be a good influence/combination with Carmelo. Griffin and Gordon seem like anti-Melos. That could be a good thing.
by citizen zhiv on Aug 31, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think the coach really matters too much in this case.
Melo didn’t get his shit together (so to speak) until the arrival of Billups. Hopefully Blake Griffin would have the same effect.
I don’t see why Olshey COULDN’T pull this off, but it all goes to Melo signing that extension. As much as this is a trade, it’s still very much like a Free Agent signing. Would Melo want to be here?
Judging from his actions, recently going Darth Vader and hiring a Boba Fett to bitch slap some skank, I don’t think he holds his legacy in the same regard as Kober or, blecch, LeBron. Maybe he doesn’t really see the harm in playing for DTS. It’s still Hollywood.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Aug 31, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't buy the
“Blake Griffin is the light of all good” argument.
"Things change when something is taken away from you" -BG32
Well he certainly seems to be closer to Durant then he is to Carmelo
in terms of moral judgment.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown
Billups isn't exactly a saint
But he’s a determined leader that brought a new winning culture to Melo’s Nuggets. Blake Griffin brings a culture of “hard work leads to success” and there’s no way that could be anything but a positive influence.
you are looking at intangibles that don't matter
the only thing that matters is the desire to win. Who cares if he is up to tom-foolery.
Melo has always been dedicated to basketball. He has never battled fitness problems. He has been a key part of success in the Olympic level, the college level, and the high school level.
In fact the only spat he has had with a coach is when he got mad for wanting to play more. Even that was corrected quickly.
He has never had chemistry issues with teammates.
There has never been a question about his drive or will to win.
I dont care about the ass-hetery that Melo may be a part of on twitter. I don’t question his drive or his ability to get along with teammates and coaches. And that my friend is the only thing that matters.
Yep
he’s had his share of miscues off the court but nothing really bad. In this age of sext-ing, twitter etc I think celebrities/athletes will continue to do more and more stupid things that the public will end up viewing because everyone is potential paparazzi.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 31, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
That's stupid, Chuck...
What’s Dwayne Wade done? Or Lebron? Tim Duncan? Ray Allen? Kevin Garnett? Or all the other athletes that don’t indulge in stupid public behavior… they’ve kept their noses clean and deserve our respect. And none of them have whined about signed contracts… or allowed their reps to engage in the alleged bad behavior that Carmelo’s have.
You want the Clips to trade for Carmelo fine, but don’t deny his indiscretions.
Chuck just dismissed Carmelo's indiscretions...
…as the product of modern electronic media. The point is, why shouldn’t we examine Carmelo’s social indiscretions, especially when there are other players who have not indulged in them?
Carmelo Anthony is not just a basketball player, he’s also a member of society… and we all share some common responsibilities therein.
The guy’s indulged in some bad behavior… and it seems we’re more or less willing to forgive that behavior because he’s a star basketball player… and because some of it might have been attributed to the folly of youth. But… the CAA stuff and this Twitter thing bring into question whether the guy’s matured at all. And if he hasn’t… why shouldn’t I be prejudiced against him playing for the team I support?
Tons of guys have been bad
MJ was a known philanderer, Kobe in Colorado, Stephen Jackson, Jamaal Tinsley, Jayson Williams, Ron Artest, ZBo, George Hill, Greg Oden, Isiah Rider, Shawn Kemp, Latrell Sprewell, Charles Barkley etc etc. The list is pretty long and these are just the NBA guys.
I’ve seen some of the players at the club in Vegas, plenty of wild stuff goes on (see Jordan’s son recent twitter controversy).
So some attention-starving groupie tried to start something on Twitter, Melo was upset and reacted stupidly. At least he didn’t do a Chris Brown and take it upon himself to handle it…
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 31, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
And not to defend the guy, but he is human and does make mistakes.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
CChuck...
What Melo did to that women (and I certainly don’t want to defend her) was put a bounty on her head. And that’s ILLEGAL (and, uh… wrong). Then he exacerbated the situation by photographing the money and putting the picture in a public place. The argument that he didn’t do something REALLY stupid and take matters into his own hands is baseless… because that’s exactly what he did. Did he get violent and try and kill her? No, he tried to pay someone else to do it.
Honestly, I think it was a joke. But, from a guy who already has a wobbly reputation… it was clueless.
I said it was stupid
and fortunately for him and the woman in question his team retracted it before anything happened. Not sure of the legal statute of what he did but since it was never carried out it should be pretty minimal.
BTW he wanted someone to slap her not kill her. While neither are acceptable (his mama should have taught him better) there is a big difference.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 31, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
They said Carmelo's twitter account had been hacked...
Chuck, that’s not a retraction, it’s a denial. And “slap” or “kill” in this context certainly condones and promises some level of physical harm. Review Carmelo’s alleged twitter, his words are rich in the promise of potential damage.
Forget it, I don’t want to make excuses for either side. The girl sounds like a total jackass. Carmelo should be able to measure a logical response… and he didn’t… or can’t. Bad on her and him. I’m not sure who I like less here.
Amen
Carmelo is the missing piece our squad needs. We have had too much inconsistency, indecisiveness, and sloppiness (ahem Mr. Flippy) in the past couple years, and Melo would provide the explosiveness and pure skill that has been our missing piece. I agree with the Andrew Sharp article and with Chuck’s arguments.
These are entertainers, not saints
They are generally not the most intelligent people and they’ve been coddled their whole lives. We want them to entertain us, not dictate morality. At least I don’t.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Nobody said anything about dictating morality...
I’m not looking for a leader in that regard. I’m looking for a follower.
I don't see that he denied anything
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Now the anti-Melo sentiment is going from his "bad stats" to "bad character".
I can’t believe there’s actually fans on this board throwing up any negative they can hoping we DON’T land Carmelo.
Newsflash, Melo is human, and a LOT of humans are stupid.
I don’t care what he Tweets, Paul Pierce claimed his Twitter was hacked, too.
Kobe was put on trial for RAPE, somehow I doubt these last two Laker titles have lost their sheen in anybody’s eyes.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Aug 31, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
This way, if we fail to land Melo
All of these people will have a reason to be happy still. With LeBron, we set ourselves up for disappointment.
I've been on the same page from day one... don't bait me, GfP...
And don’t diminish my opinion because it isn’t the same as yours. I’ve said, repeatedly that I think acquiring Carmelo Anthony would be a smart move if the costs were not to dear.
But don’t ask me to forgive his indiscretions. I feel the same way about Zach Randolph or Kobe Bryant or anybody else on the list.
But would I rather pay to watch Ray Allen or Dwayne Wade or Blake Griffin or Eric Gordon or some other guys? Yeah I would.
Didn't excuse him either
I’m saying this is the new age. This tweet would have never happened 10 years ago. What, Michael Jordan is going to issue a press conference and offer a bounty? The players needs to understand that they are being followed around by fans with camera phones, that people read their tweets and they could get in trouble quite easily when they are off the court.
Is Melo a bit of a bone-head? Certainly but it doesn’t appear he is Lance Stephenson either.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 31, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
No doubt.
Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle certainly wouldn’t survive the Twitter-age. But would they wise up to the reality of the modern day electronica? Don’t know. My point is that other guys figure it out. Why doesn’t Carmelo?
I actually believe Carmelo’s a special case. He’s a kid with deep roots in the Baltimore gang scene. A tough row. He was pimped and pumped up by the high school and college basketball scene which has only ever cared about his ability on the court and about his ability to earn money.
Believe it or not, I want the guy to keep clean and do well wherever he plays. I love the NBA. I have far greater issues with his need-for-the-ball and lack of interest in playing defense than I do his off-court activities. But you can’t ignore the fact that the guy’s done stupid… and illegal stuff. And you have to make it part of the equation.
They have?
Michael Beasley, Stephon Marbury, Paul Pierce, Shaq, Chad (Ocho Cinco) Johnson etc etc?
The internet is full of dumb sites like textsfromlastnight, mydrunktexts etc etc where people announce to the world the stupid things they have or are doing. This is only the beginning.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 31, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm like a broken record...
But there are dozens and dozens of guys who HAVE figured it out. Duncan, Allen, Griffin, Gordon, Steph Curry, Billups, Rose, Love, Howard, Lebron, Dirk, Battier, Yao, Brand, Iguodala, Horford, Garnett, Bosh, Nash, Ginobli, Fisher… I’m rambling… there’s TONS (and I’m not nominating any of them for sainthood). But finally, the names aren’t important. The fact is, good behavior is, I believe, the norm, not the exception.
I’m not sure I understand something here… are you guys in favor of bad behavior? I don’t think so. Do you think we should ignore it? No, not that either. Do you think we shouldn’t talk about it? Or use it as a measuring stick for whether or not we might want to cheer for a certain player or advocate his acquisition by our favorite franchise?
Really?
Maybe I’m wrong, but for me it matters.
Again non-issue
the guys you listed above, many have had issues. Rose with the Memphis SAT score, KG is suppose to swear like a sailor, many of them are still too young to know if they will get into trouble.
Should we ignore it? No, but we also have to remember the most important thing about these guys is their ability to play basketball. As long as what they do off the court does not effect their on the court performance (namely suspensions) then they are just distractions. Would I prefer if all these guys like Tim Duncan? Yes, but its not a necessary trait for a professional basketball player.
Melo could very well be a punk but he’s not Rae Carruth, he’s not Jayson Williams and he’s not Lance Stephenson. We will see but Stern is very cautious of these things and we will see if Melo is even punished from all this.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 31, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Illegal acts are not just "distractions"...
They are crimes.
I don’t think Garnett’s potty mouth compares with a DUI and possession.
Are these the kinds of crimes that would
prevent you from signing Melo if you were the FO?
I understand your point, and it’s certainly valid. But he’s not a felon (at least insofar as I am aware). It really comes down to whether we would want to root for someone who is less then ideal as the focal point of the team.
I have two impressionable young boys who would naturally tend to look up to players like Melo. However, I think it’s my responsibility to help teach my sons that they are not role models but rather people with flaws just like the rest of us. Some like Melo might have more flaws than others.
In addition, I want the Clippers to win. They have been sub .400 for forever. They are starting to build a good team here and in my view Melo would fit in very well with what they have. I would sign him wihtout question for the right price.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
by Jax on Sep 1, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
If I were the GM:
I would make an offer that didn’t include Griffin or Gordon. If I had more faith in the coaching staff, I’d be more gung-ho about gettting it done.
And you might have hit on something else, Jax. It’s hard to be a parent and balance this stuff. My kids are girls so the Melo situation doesn’t really concern them directly… but I’m always saying stuff like, “I think he’s basically a good person who screwed up,” or “Yeah, she’s cool, I like her music, but she’s got issues,” or “Admire, his skills but don’t emulate his lifestyle choices…” And you have to do it all without being judgmental, or binding your kids brain up in bubble-wrap, or sounding like an ass.
Maybe this all has something to do with my opinion about Carmelo. He’s 25 and a millionaire and still making stupid choices… and the system keeps rewarding him. What do you say to your kids about that?
I want the Clippers to win, and sometime soon, please, but in the rest of my world, my non-Clipper world, “Just win, baby…” doesn’t always fly. So where’s the line? I don’t know, it keeps moving.
Good discussion
Maybe I would say that life isn’t fair and some people are born with talents that are more marketable than others?
Melo is 25, 6’8," an incredible basketball player, and shows up for work every day. In this world we live in, he’s worth a tremendous amount of money.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Carmelo wasn't born an incredible basketball player.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Sep 1, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Guys who have figured it out
I think for many of them, they have been told NOT to start a Twitter and to keep themselves out of the media as much as possible. It’s a little unfair to compare Melo to these guys (Battier, Yao, Duncan, etc).
This reminds me of a roommate I had in college that judged everyone for drinking alcohol and considered himself practically a saint, but once someone finally got him to try a drink, he became a huge party-goer. He was sober only because he was never able to have access to the stuff before college. He thought it had something to do with his character, when it had much more to do with his lack of opportunity.
In the same way, many of these guys haven’t gotten in trouble because the have made sure not to have the opportunity to do so. This is very intelligent, and Melo could have used some guidance like that.
However, there are plenty of guys who have entered the Twitter/electronic-media-scene and stayed squeaky clean (for the most part). Baron Davis of all people has done a phenomenal job of staying all business on his Twitter. Perhaps guys like CP3, D.Wade, Bosh, and LeBron just haven’t made a stupid mistake yet (up until this incident, Melo’s Twitter was fine), but until they do, Melo is in a small group of Twidiots including Brandon Jennings and Shaq.
If Melo wants to salvage his image now, I’d suggest that he join the group that doesn’t have Twitter accounts, limiting their ability to totally F themselves over.
Yao has a Twitter
Earlier this summer people were trying to accuse him of tampering when he made a plea to Chris Bosh about joining the Rockets before the Free Agency period officially began. Other than that, it’s clean lol.
Twitter, like many things, can be good if used properly. Some of these guys don’t seem to have a personal content filter or a sense of discretion. That obviously causes unnecessary drama and situations that could have been avoided. Everyone can read what they are typing and some people are ready and willing to catch them slipping. For this reason, they need to use better judgment in their postings and opt to play it safe rather than be sorry.
by Lawler 4ever on Sep 1, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Right
If they don’t have the skills to maintain their self image, they should join the group that has kept quiet.
If they do have the skills, then why not market themselves? Durant does a great job. Whether it’s true or not, his Twitter leads me to believe that he’s honestly just a good kid that tweens about video games, barbecues, and watching movies with his pals. Craig Smith and DJ do a great job at this too, filtering out anything taboo.
"It's a little unfair to compare Melo to these guys..."
Why? It’s not just about Twitter. These guys have kept their personal lives out of the limelight… and kept their noses clean on multiple levels. Why shouldn’t we compare them to Melo?
Baron Davis is a good example of a guy who got into trouble in college and has kept his nose clean since. He’s a smart, interesting (and baffling) dude.
Comparisons
Yes, but that choice, to put their personal life in the limelight, is not a wrong choice. That’s not where Melo went wrong here. Where he went wrong is how he handled his life once it was already in the limelight. Hence, I compare him to guys like Baron and Durant who have handled it exceptionally well.
The guys who decided not to put their personal lives out there, they didn’t necessarily make a better choice than Melo, but they never had the opportunity to screw up, so that’s why I don’t consider them comparable. They didn’t tackle the beast that is the media.
Now I'm not too sure what you're saying
So tweeting is a new sort of potential hazard for player… But Melo’s behavior was still really dumb, as you admit. I’m not exactly out to condemn him, but if I’m going to sign a guy for +$20M a year, I’d like to be confident that he can stay out of jail.
Bodily threats over a public forum. The issue for me isn’t just that he sometimes behaves like a punk, it’s that he seems oblivious to boot. That’s a teetering sort of situation, and meanwhile we’ll have over a third of our cap invested in him. It does give me pause.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Non-issue to me
the attention starved groupie made some completely inappropriate remarks. If this was a face to face confrontation I could see a drink being thrown in a face (or Lala slapping the broad). Melo should have taken the high road in this, he has to realize he has a lot more to lose than this woman.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 31, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Poor judgement
Beyond the legal issue (which may be very real), there’s the deeper question of whether he’s grown up. Is “maybe he’ll change” good enough at this stage? His behaviors and presumptuous demands are at least cause for concern.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
As the article said, if there were no issues about Carmelo’s character we’d never have a chance of getting him. I’m over it, I want to win some basketball games.
by Michael White on Sep 1, 2010 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions
But...
Melo isn’t available because of his character flaws. He’s available because the Nuggets could/will lose him next year without any compensation. It is a different situation than ZBo, Francis, Marbury etc etc.
FA in 2010.
For the record...
I don’t think the Clips got a shot at ZBo because of character flaws, but because of the size of his contract.
Is telling a team you don’t want to play for them anymore (even though you’ve got a year and an option year left on your deal) a character flaw?
It’s not a grateful gesture. One would hope he could get the message out to the team without making it so public.
Carmelo doesn't want to extend, and the Nuggets don't want to walk away empty handed.
Public or private, there is nothing wrong with what’s going on. He’s not Chris Paul trying to force his way out while under contract. Melo’s been offered an extension, and all but declined it. It’s completely his choice.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Sep 1, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Again, poor judgement
IMO, past developments + recent behaviors suggest an uncomfortable level of volatility. Of course, I can’t say for sure, and I get what most others are saying, that Melo’s flaws seem manageable in relation to his talent. But given the stakes, I’d want to move carefully.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
that was my comment Sharp responded to
And my point of view is that the clippers don’t have problems getting trades done, in fact they have shown great skill at completing trades. The only question has been the quality of their trades.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown
I haven't seen this brought up before when it comes to Carmelo
but this is another thing to add to the list of “ZBo was an unnecessary trade” supporters
(gulp…run and hide its about to get ugly)
Because of Carmelo’s flaws, the Nuggets relationship has failed, and both sides want a fresh start. Yeah, his immaturity and selfishness may be a red flag; it’s also the only reason he’s available. This is the only way NBA superstars become available outside the draft (or LeBron stabbing an entire city in the back).
This passage summarizes my player evaluations to a tee. I’ve taken heat here for being interested in players with questionable characters (Zach Randolph, Iverson and Cousins) but absent those issues those guys who have never been available to the Clippers. It’s funny to say it, but talent is the market inefficiency. Battier will never have the talent of Carmelo, but like the author says, Melo can mature like Peirce and Kobe did.
Wholeheartedly agree.
Certain players win. Carmelo wins. Clippers don’t. What’s wrong with the picture?
I am not sure that the issue is exclusively Melo
I don’t love the Nuggets’ surrounding personnel.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
I don't understand why
people are saying that the Nuggets relationship failed because of Melo. I’ve seen stories on Hoopsworld quoting the Nugs’ new GM and Coach Karl in which they state that they want Melo to return to the Nugs, that they’ve treated him well, that they are going to push for that, etc.
To me, these quotes from the Nuggests suggest that Melo wants to leave the Nuggets because he doesn’t think they can win. Whatever flaws there are, the Nuggets seem to be fine with them.
But I guess the flaws that are not problematic for the Nuggets are too much for some of the people on this board. I respect their opinions. I just don’t get it. If he’s good enough for the Nuggets, he should be good enough for us.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
I really don't think the relationship between Melo and the Nuggets FO is as bad
as the media makes it out to be. I wouldn’t be surprised if Melo would prefer to stay in Denver, but right now doesn’t want to commit the next 4 years of his life to them. Fact of the matter is that almost all their starters might not be on the team next year. Melo has an ETO, I think Billups is going to have an unguaranteed contract, KMart and JR are in a contract year, I think Nene can opt out too. Pair that w/ a new “owner” and new GM, and there is just too much uncertainty there to sign an extension right now.
Melo's tweeting tirade was really stupid
I’m no lawyer, but it seems to me those charges may well stick.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Melo
All this Melo stuff sounds a lot likD the La Bron shit. Don’t get your hopes up. He is a questionable character at best. Let’s go with our roster as it is. I like the roster. Good depth and solid starters.
Except for our SF
We’d have good depth if we had a legit starting 3. Gomes as the starter is an obvious weakness.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Aug 31, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
He reminds me of Steve Blake
Not the most physically gifted, but he’s got such a great head for the game it’s hard not to root for him. For me, he’ll do nicely until either Aminu’s potential is realized, or we land a bigger-name FA.
Question about draft picks.....
This article throws out a possible trade scenario where the Clippers give up the Minny pick and their 2011 1st rounder. With OKC holding the protected rights to our 2012 1st doesn’t this present a situation where Clips would have back to back years without a 1st rounder? As long as their is even a slight possiblity that this can occur, trading both picks can’t be done. Am I correct on this? It has to be one or the other, right?
I’m to the point now where I think the Clips should offer Kaman, AFA, and our 2011 1st and thats it. Maybe try to bring in a third team to take Kaman and give Denver back some cap space and a pick ( Charlotte – Dampier and a 1st rounder Detroit – Prince and a 1st rounder). If Melo meets with the new GM in Denver and tells him he wants to be traded, I expect things to move pretty quickly after that. Don’t think the new GM will want to have this Melo situation hanging over him for his first few months on the job. If Denver is in a hurry to move Melo, there’s no reason to use our best assests. Melo will be available for 50 cents on the dollar. Lets put our best 50 cent offer on the table and stop there. If another team is willing to part with some of their young players then so be it. Two future first rounders and this year’s #8 pick should be enough. When it gets down to it I don’t think the Minny pick will be needed, so don’t even put it out there.
The draft picks thing has come up before...
Technically the Clips are only free to trade the 2011 pick. But I’m sure there’s a way to get around it in the language of the trade… if the Clips wind up without two first rounders in a row, the traded pick moves to the next available year.
Hmmm, if the Clips do end up getting Melo (via max extension)
Will DTS and FO still be labeled as cheapskates?
Nope
not unless they let EJ, DJ and BG walk away without a fight. If they make this trade and then use the MLE next summer then they can at least ditch the cheapskate label for awhile. Right now they are still cheapskates sitting on unused cap space and not paying former staff.
FA in 2010.
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