BREAKING NEWS: Paul to the Clippers Agreed to in Principle
by Steve Perrin on Dec 14, 2011 4:19 PM PST
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PrintA few moments ago, Marc Stein of ESPN tweeted the following:
ESPN sources: Clippers and NBA-owned Hornets have agreed to Chris Paul deal in principle. Gordon, Kaman, Aminu and Minnesota pick to Hornets
and
ESPN sources say NBA approval to be issued by night's end to seal CP3 and 2 future 2nd-rounders to Clips for Gordon/Kaman/Aminu/Sota first
and
ESPN sources say NBA approval to be issued by night's end to seal CP3 and 2 future 2nd-rounders to Clips for Gordon/Kaman/Aminu/Sota first
After supposedly refusing to include both Gordon and Minnesota's unprotected first round pick in the deal for several days, according to Stein the trade is now agreed to with both of them included. Bledsoe is the piece that has been removed; which makes some sense as the Clippers have certainly been high on Bledsoe.
Let me be clear up front on this: I believe this is a great deal for the Clippers. Chris Paul is 26 and the best point guard in the NBA. You just don't get many chances to acquire superstars in their prime, and when you do you have to make it happen.
The question for me isn't whether the Clippers overpaid in a vacuum: it's whether they paid more than they needed to in order to get the deal done. The Clippers seemingly had all the leverage in this situation, and yet in the end it is LA who blinked (unless you consider retaining Bledsoe and getting a couple of second rounders a major coup).
As my earlier post illustrates, this trade does help the Clippers some as regards the salary cap and the luxury tax. With both Paul and an extended Eric Gordon, the Clippers would have been butting up against the salary cap beginning next season and for the foreseeable future. This way? They've got a little breathing room.
Of course, it's not over until it's over, and this is the third time since last Thursday that a deal for Chris Paul has been more or less announced. The first two never made it to fruition - we'll see if this one does. One thing we can say though - with the haul they're getting, it seems unlikely that it will be the Hornets/NBA backing out of this one.
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+1
Geronimo!!!!!
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
I'm definitely sadder than I am happy
But only because I know that this was what had to happen. Sigh.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
+1
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 14, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
+1000000000000000000
Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
by boltsfan21 on Dec 14, 2011 4:34 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
You convinced me a few days ago
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
LOL
With all the grief I received, glad to know I at least helped to convince someone.
Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
we know. we know.
You’ve had this position from day one.
The most polarizing trade in Clips history.
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
Wow - hopefully they got some assurances of an extension
This team will be great this year.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Great points Steve
The Clips must really like Bledsoe as you pointed out.
This is going to be my team, and we're going to rise together.
-Clipper Darrell
Our whole community is stunned.
This is going to be my team, and we're going to rise together.
-Clipper Darrell
Would have been nicer to see
An extension signed
My true name is Stormageddon Bazinga Jones
Rules changed. This allows us to have Paul under contract when it comes time to extend Griffin and then have Griffin under contract when it’s time to extend Paul.
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
But it also means that Chris Paul isn’t guaranteed to stay past next season (or that Donald Sterling is guaranteed to pay him)
Would have been more significant to me if they signed him to an extension, wouldn’t prevent maxing out Griffin one bit but shows a true commitment beyond 2 seasons :)
The rules are what the rules are, that’s fine, but the message of extending Paul right away is a lot more than the rules
My true name is Stormageddon Bazinga Jones
it was the best and most realistic scenario....
He gets more this way and we have him longer.
THE KNEES!!! THE KNEES!!!!!
HIRE THE PHOENIX TRAINING STAFF STAT!!
Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin
by Takebb909 on Dec 14, 2011 4:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
That's so clutch
Okay, good job Neil.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
CP3 and Griffin
Still doesn’t cover up the fact that EJ is gone.
Bledsoe better fucking step up is game
language
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Dec 14, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Sowwy :3
I’m not very happy that this trade went through
by Ricekrispy10 on Dec 14, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
You're not very happy
that the Los Angeles Clippers obtained the best pure point guard in the game?
My true name is Stormageddon Bazinga Jones
He's not very happy
that the Clippers, barring some unforseen injury, are at LEAST a playoff team. I really like Gordon, but it had to be done.
really...? I can't work right now I am so pissed.
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i don't know how to feel.
"Energizing the process, or turning it upside-down, fans now participate, writing blogs and posting comments and videos [...] the dialogue is to discourse what road rage is to driving." -Mark Heisler
you should feel stoked!
Clippers now have the best PG/PF combo since Stockton and Malone.
Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
by boltsfan21 on Dec 14, 2011 4:37 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
+1
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 14, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
You are the man...I feel how you feel.
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Or the D-League. I’m honestly stunned that Bledsoe held up this deal.
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think he held it up
I just don’t think the Hornets were demanding him. Or maybe he was a giveback to soften the Minny + Gordon blow.
Go Minnesota!
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
It wasn't so much the player as the volume of what NOH was asking for
it was practically the whole team.
Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)
paul and him have that video where he alley oops bledsoe off the backboard
pretty cool but not worth losing EJ
wine um, dine um, 69 um
by flightofthegriffin on Dec 14, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
I haven’t made a comment in two years, but this is ridiculous. How can you give away five players; one former all star, one future all star, perhaps one or two more starter to all star caliber players for a great player with knee injuries. All I can think of is Brandon Roy. The clippers curse strikes again.
Kaman was an all-star because like 4 guys got hurt
and he was leaving anyway. I don’t see Aminu ever getting close to an all-star level. EJ AND the Minny pick hurt, but let’s not forget that we just got Chris Paul. Griffin and Jordan are better than West and Chandler. This team is going to do well
So you risk giving up a solid center which are hard to find, a future all star s.g , likely a future starter in the top 5 pick, a solid role player in Aminu for one point guard with knee issues. He hasn’t even played a full season, and we had leverage. That was a foohardy mistake. I guarantee it will back fire this season, as much as I want Paul to be healthy, I just don’t believe in his knees; aka Brandon Roy
Paul on his bad knees almost beat the Lakers by himself
We gave up a lot, but remember that we got Chris Paul. The Clippers have always had a “wait and see” approach and where has that gotten us? A fun playoff run in ‘06? Something had to change. If we wanted to keep Paul long-term, it would’ve been tough for EJ to get an extension. A CP3/Griffin pick and roll with Chauncey spotting up and DJ crashing will be devastating.
Makes sense
@AlexKennedyNBA: The Los Angeles Clippers may be a dark horse to land Jamal Crawford after dealing Eric Gordon to the New Orleans Hornets.
Do we have the money for this?
He's willing to take a one year deal from SAC or POR.
We should immediately target him.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Dec 14, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Why do we need another PG?
Mo/bled/CP3/billups not enough?
DUDE
all of a sudden this is hitting me like a brick wall
WE GOT CP3!
by JJClipperfan on Dec 14, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
Dawning comprehension
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Really? my bad
Lol shows how much i watched atlanta play…, i thought he came off the bench as the backup PG
We don't need another PG
Jamal is a “Combo Guard” that likes to handle the ball.
This is going to be my team, and we're going to rise together.
-Clipper Darrell
WEll you don't
And Crawford is awful
My true name is Stormageddon Bazinga Jones
Painful price tag, but we'll get over it
Chris Paul is top 5. Blake Griffin will be. Gentlemen, we’re squarely on the map.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
The Baron trade didn't bring us anything special
Just wait until you see our duo on the court.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
High school math teacher
No one in the organization, it that’s what you mean
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
It will be fun to see how they stack up
against the leagues best back court Christmas night.
Instant Karma gonna get you!
by StinkyFingers on Dec 14, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
mixed feeling
im still holding out hope espn mixed up the erics again and we really gave away bledsoe and kept ej
by NoBandwagoners on Dec 14, 2011 4:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions
stunned
what happened to the leverage he was talking about…
we kept bledsoe!
/sarcasm
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Man, it hurts to see Gordon go.
Hes been my favorite Clipper since he got drafted, he liked being here, he wanted to be here, and it just sucks to see him go, even for CP3. Now the best thing for EJ i hope is that he somehow gets to Indiana. The fans will treat him right there
THIS SUCKS THIS SUCKS THIS SUCKS!!!!1
Who is our 2 now?????
way to go Hollywood Neil. What leverage.
"Your Hate Will Motivate"
...Barring another acquisition
I see
Paul
Billups
Caron
Blake
DJ
—
Bledsoe
Mo
Gomes
Trey
Cook
Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin
by Takebb909 on Dec 14, 2011 4:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
clippers can probably pick up 2 more guys
Or maybe trade Mo
where's the young fun team?!
I wanted the young fun team!
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damn
the Warriors are going to get OWNED on opening night
congrats Clips, savor the sweetness
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 14, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like a shit team without EJ, this trade may be the all time worst in LAC History.
We were soft in the 3 spot now we are soft in the 2 and 5
one step forward two steps back.
"Your Hate Will Motivate"
Bizarro world. You either over rate Gordon or under-rate Paul and Billups.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Yes
If you go by PER:
Billups (19.1) immediately became our 2nd best player, with EJ as our 3rd best (18.5). Then Paul became our new best player (23.7), with Griffin as our 2nd (21.9), and Billups at 3rd.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Exactly
What about this is so hard to grasp?
Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Can't put a PER number on the sentimental value of a guy we knew from the beginning. EJ is and always will be one of my favorites.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
That part I get ... and even share
But the vitriolic “shit team” / “all time worst trade” stuff is what I don’t get.
Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
The Clippers were 19-63 EJ’s rookie year.
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
Well
Seeing this makes me feel a little better:
Never in my wildest dreams.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
That's awesome
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
I'm pretty sure I pledged to bake a big ass cake
for a CN night if either Paul or D Williams became a Clipper.
Need to learn how to bake
According to the LA Times, which has been sort of reliable, Eric Gordon was included in the deal to bring CP3 to LA.
by lovinglosangeles on Dec 14, 2011 4:31 PM PST reply actions
Sounds like he may have been lied to.
That can’t make the other players feel very comfortable.
I've got nothing.
exactly my point.
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i dont believe this
wow…this has to be a stupid trade, NO bent over to david stern. wow wow wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Per Adrian Woj
Chauncey Billlups is planning to meet Vinny Del Negro and Clippers staff for dinner tonight, source says. Buyout for dessert?
Newbie
“Chauncey, we’d still like you to be a starter and we made a big trade today that’ll get you back to the post-season. Sound good?”
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
BINGO!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 14, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
Is a buyout
legal if you buy a amnesty’d player? I know you can’t trade them
My true name is Stormageddon Bazinga Jones
Because Chris Paul is better than EJ
Way, way, way better. Guarantee you that you’ll be happy after the first couple of games.
Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
damn
Why? Talk about wilting under pressure. We could have had EJ AND CP3. I’m a little disappointed in Olshey. On top of that we lose the Minny pick? That’s a lot of flexibility we gave up for CP3.
David Stern
This trade helps David Stern save face in the aftermath of the first two failed trade attempts.
Since this trade is essentially better than the first two for NO.
Well now that EJ was in the trade I won my bet.
I do not have to get the Richard Simmons tattoo
"I gotta have more cowbell!"
Hey, we can always re-sign EJ when he's a free agent
Ha. Anyway, this is so exciting.
we won't.
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
No EJ is not and he is gonna Destroy us when we play them
Who do we have to stop him.
Foye?
"Your Hate Will Motivate"
I'm not sure what to make of any of this.
I was looking forward to Chauncey and Gordon playing together, with a super deep team, and a sweet lottery pick next season..
It’s not like we are going to win a championship this season. Quit dreaming.
I realize Chris Paul is a generational player, but God….my head is just spinning.
I've got nothing.
This is exactly why this is a good deal for us....
You just don’t get many chances to acquire superstars in their prime, and when you do you have to make it happen.
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Enlighten me, please...
…OK this is the part everybody seems to get but me. How do you know CP3 will opt in? Is he now somehow contractually obligated to do so? Or are we "taking his word for it"?
by TheCasualFan on Dec 14, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
We too Elton Brand’s word, once. And Kobe’s.
by TheCasualFan on Dec 14, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
According to Stein, he has now opted into next season
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
his opt in was the conditional piece in including the minny pick
has been for a bit i believe
And we've been collecting these assets for a reason
and Chris Paul is a pretty good reason to use them. This is the best team we’ve ever had.
Yes!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 14, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
agreed with the superstar PG argument but we still overpaid no less
plus we now have nobody to guard bigger opposing guards – don’t even want to start visualizing mo attempting to guard anybody
What a gut wrenching deal..........
I loved EG and the potential he offered for our future. On the other hand SG’s are a dime a dozen.
I'd echo that sentiment
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
From Bill Simmons article yesterday
If I were running the Clips, I wouldn’t let Stern and his henchmen break me.
This is going to be my team, and we're going to rise together.
-Clipper Darrell
Stern turns out to be a damn good GM
David Stern has taken a lot of grief on this site, and I’m one who has been very critical of him. Bottom line, Neil Olshey got taken in this deal, trading the team’s #2 asset. The only way this makes sense is if Gordon’s agent told the Clips no way in hell Gordon extends. Otherwise, the rest of the league is making fun of the Clips tonight.
Taking the Clips #2 asset for the Hornets #1 asset?
errrr….where is your logic again?
"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2011 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
Dude, with all due respect do you follow basketball?
It’s Gordon, Aminu, Kaman, a high #1 in next year’s draft for the rights to Chris Paul for two seasons. Does that make sense?
Bummed about Gordon...
buuuuut he’s no Chris Paul.
The others + an unknown draft pick?
I’m in it to win it now, dude. How about you?
"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 14, 2011 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
Or Trey Thompkins better step up
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
let the bandwagon jumping begin
"The perception here in Los Angeles has always been that the Lakers find a way to win games and the Clippers find a way to lose…I recognize it, but I'm not going to accept it," Griffin said. "I'm not going to say, 'Oh, that's fine."
by TheEricGordonShow on Dec 14, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Stick with your pistons
There is something called loyalty, you should look it up.
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
by ClipperBEAST on Dec 14, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
No worries bud
You’ve suffered for a few years… long enough to join us.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
no. stay on your bandwagon! Ours is overflowing...we can'thandle the capacity.
I don’t know what to make of this.
I’m…so confused.
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
We never even had a wagon to band on.
So how many Clippers flags are we gonna see on cars this year?
you can't abandon ship for a team like the pistons
- sports rule. if your team has won a championship in the last 5 years, you cant complain
Welcome crazyj
MBFGC…..CAW CAW CAW
Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin
by Takebb909 on Dec 14, 2011 5:24 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
That's not necessarily a good thing to be a bandwagoner
but welcome.
CAW CAW CAW
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
welcome
to a whole other set of problems
wine um, dine um, 69 um
by flightofthegriffin on Dec 14, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
well at least its never boring
wine um, dine um, 69 um
by flightofthegriffin on Dec 14, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
Cool. Go Clips!
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
From a city like Detroit to a team like the Clippers
Good to see you set your sights high!
Instant Karma gonna get you!
by StinkyFingers on Dec 14, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
No depth and still scrapping to make the 8th seed if that.
Instant Karma gonna get you!
by StinkyFingers on Dec 14, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
you mean realist?
Instant Karma gonna get you!
by StinkyFingers on Dec 14, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
I mean troll. 800+ comments at GSW blog, 20 or so here. You’re trolling.
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Im a convert. You meany!
Instant Karma gonna get you!
by StinkyFingers on Dec 14, 2011 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
curry vs paul
or the boy vs the man
wine um, dine um, 69 um
by flightofthegriffin on Dec 14, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
cheap!?!..... Kwame costed GSW 7M and DJ costed us 10.75M
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
by ClipperBEAST on Dec 14, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
you've got some serious pull now
go get Dalembert
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 14, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
disappointing
olshey got taken advantage of.
4 pgs makes no sense.
"The perception here in Los Angeles has always been that the Lakers find a way to win games and the Clippers find a way to lose…I recognize it, but I'm not going to accept it," Griffin said. "I'm not going to say, 'Oh, that's fine."
by TheEricGordonShow on Dec 14, 2011 4:39 PM PST reply actions
you guys will be just fine
put Chauncey at the 2
(you’re welcome)
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 14, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
Have to repost DWade's reaction
DwyaneWade Dwyane Wade
Imma get @DWRIGHTWAY1 a " Watch your head" tee for christmas. L2MS..that’s the Cp3 to Blake and Deandre jordan effect..
13 minutes ago
LOL
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 14, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
This stuff makes me feel better
Keep it coming keep it coming…
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I need a translator
Who’s DWRIGHTWAY1 and what’s L2MS?
by Polish Rifle on Dec 14, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
Dwright
is the Warriors starting SF
(and my poor Warriors are going to need new rims and backboards after you a-holes come through on christmas night)
I am so jealous
congrats Clip nation!!
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 14, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I was gonna get tickets
But my family decided to visit me in LA for xmas, so I don’t get back to the bay til like the 27th or something. Don’t worry man, the W’s will put it together this year.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Christmas could't arrive sooner
Sorry to see EJ leave,
But can’t wait for the season gets underway.
Clipper Nation will be crowded with new citizens
Patriots, Clippers, Angels,
funny
Ryan Wolstat: How long until the Wolves try to acquire Bledsoe and Mo Williams to complete the set? 3 minutes ago
Go Wolves!!
I just became a die hard fan, for one season
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Do we lose our games against them on purpose just to make the pick worse (sarcasm)
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown
Steve we need a front page poll
Does Clips Nation agree with this trade? Right now it looks around 50/50.
"I gotta have more cowbell!"
Wait one day, I say
Let the Nation sleep on it
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
I am reluctantly happy
Paul can make any player better, but we also lost a lot of players …. what’s gonna happen with team chemistry?
Two polls
one tomorrow (give people a chance to sleep on it), one a day before the regular season. I have come around to this trade. I was never vehemently against trading EJ (especially after it became apparent that CP3 will opt in and then most likely sign an extension if things go well). I also don’t think we would be able to field a deep enough team if we had to max out both EJ and BG.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown
woooooooohoooooooooooo!
Never thought I’d see the day when the Clippers landed one of the Top 10 players in the league — in his prime! This is huge!
Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
by boltsfan21 on Dec 14, 2011 4:41 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
of course
I also never would’ve thought that the Clippers would have 2 of the 10 or 15 best players in the league at the same time — and Clippers fans would actually be complaining about it. We’ve come a looooooong way!
Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
by boltsfan21 on Dec 14, 2011 4:43 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
this
is exactly what i’m thinking as i’m going through these comments. chris freaking paul to the clips and people are STILL finding something to be upset about?!
by Handsome_B._Wonderful on Dec 14, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
It's just emotions :(
We’ll get over it soon, but breakups always hurt.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Not sure how to react to this trade ....
I hope its in the trade contract somewhere that C3PO opts in with his contract instead of pulling off a Boozer-Cavs situation. Bottom line I think, if WE WANT Paul and Griffin to stay, or for Paul to sign a max contract extension, this team NEEDS TO WIN! I would’ve been happy with Gordon without Paul ….
i dont know why LAC was so high on bledsoe. i’d rather have kept ej and dealt bledsoe. let them keep the 2nd rounders.
Bledsoe
Is really, really talented. He could be a special player. I’m very glad he is not in the trade.
I guess they really intended for him to play SG
I was worried about that. balls.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Blake "unbelievably excited"
Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.
He screamed while on the air
Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.
Yeah I remeber Paul was excited to throw him lobs during the all star game
now they’re gonna do it on a nightly basis.
by dulciusXasperis on Dec 14, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
Hopefully, CP3 shows up at the Sunday scrimmage
Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.
we lost our entire bench
and have a hole at SG, I would say we better make another move or we are gonna have major problems
wine um, dine um, 69 um
by flightofthegriffin on Dec 14, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
We still have a decent bench
This is the team as constituted now in terms of depth chart
PG:CP3,Billups,Mo,Bledsoe(once he heals)
SG:Billups,Mo,Foye,Bledsoe,Leslie
SF:Butler,Gomes,Leslie (small lineup)
PF:Griffin, Thompkins (could be bolstered by FA’s maybe Rhino or Ike)
C:DJ I’m assuming that the clips will add someone like Pryzbilla to back up DJ still plenty of time to fill this spot.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown
jamal is better size at SG than mo
and we would still have our mle for a C, right? maybe just throw pryzbilla in here
Is that an idea or a report?
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
ideal report?
Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.
When CP3 pulls a Carlos Boozer will see how great this trade was!
Hollywood Neil went from Heroe to zero!
Boozer left because he wasn't going to get paid
that won’t be a problem with CP3.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown
Ramona Shelbourne just reported via phone interview
The Billups deal was key to this for the Clippers and Billups as started his career as a 2 guard. Blake was in the background ecstatic as he just heard the deal.
"I gotta have more cowbell!"
key to what???
this makes no sense at all
It brought in a player who could play shooting guard
Seeing as how the Clippers just traded there.
Makes sense to me
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, so Billups at the 2
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
I had a feeling
That Blake’s opinion was sought by the FO before this went down.
Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
by boltsfan21 on Dec 14, 2011 4:49 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'd bet on it
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
I don’t know who this guy is but Sam Amick of SI retweeted it
@jwquick
Jason Quick
Agent Andy Miller says Clippers are not in play for Jamal Crawford.
55 seconds ago via web
Quick is the beat writer for the Blazers
He cares because the Blazers are hoping to get Crawford
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
Thank Goodness
That guys is a straight gunner. A black hole for bad shots. Sure, some go in. I saw him put up 50 in 3 quarters against Minnesota in his rookie or second year, and I think his team lost. That sums him up. He can score, but winning games is another matter. I’d hate to play with him.
Jamal Crawford means his other player, Chauncey Billups, doesn't play as much.
heheh
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
This Sort of Sucks
There are two main facts for me. First, Chris Paul isn’t THAT much better than Gordan that the Clips should have given up two other significant assets (Kaman, Mini pick) and another potentially valuable asset in Aminu. This just doesn’t seem like that advantageous of a trade. Second, the Hornets really needed warm bodies. They only had six or seven guys under contract and were counting on the Chris Paul trade to get them into double digits in NBA players. In my not particularly informed opinion, the Clips could have held out for a better deal
LOL really?
hes not that much better than Gordon? Disagree big time
by JJClipperfan on Dec 14, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
well maybe now...
but in 3 years… gordon and paul will be a wash…
That's what I was thinking
In two years, Paul will probably still be a top 5 player but Gordon will probably be just outside the top ten by then. I wouldn’t call it a “wash” but it’s not a big enough difference to include the Mini pick.
Yes he is
I have some love for EJ, but Chris Paul is Special. The S is capitalized for a reason. This is the golden age of NBA point guards, and he’s the best.
I Don't Know About Weed
But grading freshman papers CAN do strange things to you.
one false assumption here
Chris Paul IS that much better than Eric Gordon.
Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
by boltsfan21 on Dec 14, 2011 4:51 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Blake in the background ecstatic
in the end it’s all about perception (Chris Paul best PG) and so damn the potential of EJ.
I will miss you EJ
"Where will the Clippers be without Sean Rooks" - The big red head
The only thing that makes me feel just a lil good is........
THAT WE WILL BE BETTER THAN THE LAKERS!!!
BUT….i really hate to see EJ go! was my fave player!
were going to have to get over losing ej
i think were just attached to eric gordon cause weve watched him improve through the years and thats why were sad but every analyst on espn says this trade is huge for the clippers
by NoBandwagoners on Dec 14, 2011 4:48 PM PST via mobile reply actions
analysts! ANALYSTS!!!!!
wine um, dine um, 69 um
by flightofthegriffin on Dec 14, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Just watch CP3 turn Randy Foye into a huge outside threat
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Randy
Saved our butts a few times last season
by lovinglosangeles on Dec 14, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
foye, leslie, bledsoe
shooting guards who can’t shoot
wine um, dine um, 69 um
by flightofthegriffin on Dec 14, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
I found something that makes me feel better after giving up too much:
“At least we’re not the Lakers.”
(Yup! I feel better!)
I wouldn't talk yet
Clips are the better team now, but if the lakers can get Shaq2…
Let’s just say the battles in la ail be epic
I Am Witness to the 1st BLAKE GRIFFIN Triple-Double! And the 2nd Triple-Double!
by KidJustin on Dec 14, 2011 6:09 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I kinda want that to happen
Really badly. I want the Lakers to make a good move now and get some strength back. No honor in beating this torn up Laker squad. (though they are actually still pretty solid without LO)
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Who won the Chris Paul trade battle?
Dallas, they got Lamar Odom for nothing
"The Milkshake" & DJ dunking on people.
by Peter B. Lap on Dec 15, 2011 1:05 AM PST up reply actions
I'm kinda worried about NBAFAN8 right now.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Eeeeeesch
Someone go check on him
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Fan of EJ
But there needs to be a stronger word for it
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
He's literally the #1 fan
And I dare anyone to try and take that title from him.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
poor NBAFAN8
although if anything this trade means that it is much better chance that EJ ends up in Indiana as I don’t see him staying in NO, as I don’t see NO being able to match a likely max offer he will likely receive from the Pacers.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown
I see Travis Leslie getting a lot of miinutes at SG
he is supposidly a lockdown defender, and can rebound like a PF
Hate to lose EJ
The only way this makes sense to me is if his agent let Oshley know EJ was NOT interested in signing on long term with the Clips.
by laknights on Dec 14, 2011 4:52 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
hah I was just watching Like Mike
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
EJ may have just asked for a max contract or something
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
One of my co-workers, who is a Laker fan, just told that Clippers are the better fit for Chris Paul.
by lovinglosangeles on Dec 14, 2011 4:52 PM PST reply actions
One of my co-workers think it's bull and that Stern favors the Clips
I repeat, that STERN FAVORS THE CLIPS. lol ok.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Where's JohnR when he ought to be here
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we better find back up bigs quick
cause i do not trust cook to be a capable back up to dj
He just got traded to Indy
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
by ClipperBEAST on Dec 14, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
woww.... didnt know that
let’s do that trade then!!
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
by ClipperBEAST on Dec 14, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
Memphis want's a big for OJ (were looking into trading him for Josh McRoberts)
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
i have faith in Travis Leslie.....
When are we gonna sign the rooks??
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
maybe we put butler at the 2
and we start thompkins at the 3. Supposedly he’s a good shooter.
wine um, dine um, 69 um
by flightofthegriffin on Dec 14, 2011 4:53 PM PST reply actions
or Leslie at the 2
dude said he was a better defender than the guy who plays for Memphis sg took over for mayo
yea I love the defensive potential
but can he shoot?
wine um, dine um, 69 um
by flightofthegriffin on Dec 14, 2011 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
I know Paul is a point god
But please…start 2nd rounders???
Dat Shi Cray!
I Am Witness to the 1st BLAKE GRIFFIN Triple-Double! And the 2nd Triple-Double!
by KidJustin on Dec 14, 2011 6:12 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Goodbye, Eric
good luck in New Orleans. another on the list of ex-Clippers i will always root for (sup, Shaun). that down the lane jam vs. San Antonio last year was as sick as anything Blake did.
i think it was a good trade for both teams. everyone walks away from the table hurting a bit.
It is a shame for him
He still hasn’t gotten to play for a good team. I think his time will come.
Loving It - Screw The Lakers
IamaGM IamaGM.com
The Clippers are 99% sold out of season tickets according to a team source. Single-seats not included.
51 seconds ago
Wow
Just wow. Donald must be having an orgasm.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Guess Clipper Hipster and I picked a good year to get back two of our seats, giving us four the year.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Guess it’s a good thing you and I are still tight
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2011 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
lol
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Glad I got my ticket package on Monday
Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.
Kings fan.
Yes, screw the Lakers.
"Contraction, I didn't say anything about contraction. I'm talking about shrinking the league." - Lebron James
Thanks Lebron, for reminding me how miserable my life is.
I have a final
and im probably going to fail but I dont even care!
#CP3EFFECT
LOL
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
So happy that UC's have there finals a week early
I wouldn’t have gotten any studying done this week at all.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown
Lakers
Some Laker fans are staying classy about this whole thing; others are just nasty.
by lovinglosangeles on Dec 14, 2011 4:56 PM PST reply actions
Billups will be fine
I think
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Yea, apparently that's the plan
He is a good 3 point shooter, so I guess that sort of makes sense.
That’s what the Clippers will need.
They are not great but..
Butler and Foye are still on the team.
http://www.clipperscurse.com/
by ClippersCurse on Dec 14, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
I thought Rasual Butler signed elsewhere?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
By the way
You don’t comment on the Dodgers blog enough.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
He’s there all the time (and he’s a mod.) I’ve never seen you comment there, and we need more Clipper representation
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
I know :P 27K posts? That's incredible.
I’m actually an A’s fan, but only very lightly. I grew up in the bay and the Giants are annoying, so I had to pick a team, but in general I’m not much of a baseball guy. I tend to go to Dodgers games when I want to watch some baseball because the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
DAMN IT. THIS MEANS ESPN WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE TRADE DETAILS
MY WORLD IS CRASHING.
That aside, I’m stunned that the Clippers did give up what is basically a de-facto top 3 SG.
Moving forward
with the loss of Kaman, who can we acquire for the backup role???
"Where will the Clippers be without Sean Rooks" - The big red head
Well this deal at least excludes the inclusion of a "bad contract"
And with no Gordon around now, after Paul is extended, I’m guess there’ll be some money
We're the hot destination now
Bigs will be knocking at our door
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
I’m ready to push the Kris Humphries thing, assuming you can move or amnesty Mo/Gomes
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
Donald might just be willing
All those season ticket sales… He must be in a good mood.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
yea tha'ts a good point
If we use this momentum to bring in some power players it will be a good move.
wine um, dine um, 69 um
by flightofthegriffin on Dec 14, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
How about the Chris Paul effect?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
+1
You think people want to play with Blake? They REALLY want to play with the best PG in the league.
Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Can't wait
I just can’t wait to get in my car and listen to those two clowns on ESPN Radio and see how they cry.
by lovinglosangeles on Dec 14, 2011 5:00 PM PST reply actions
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
To be clear, the Clippers can waive Chauncey Billups and make him a free agent. They can’t trade him.
25 seconds ago
I think if he's putting up a stink about not getting to be a FA
I don’t see how he could be mad to come to LA to play with CP3 and Blake though.
ej is a restricted free agent next year
ultimate plan: olshey told ej to spend one year in hell in NO then we sign him over summer to create SUPER TEAM
by NoBandwagoners on Dec 14, 2011 5:00 PM PST via mobile reply actions
max
and could still be mmatched. my guess is that he stays in No this year, accepts qualifying offer, then goes to pacers
Do you guys think Eric Gordon's teammates possibly didn't like him?
Hearing Blake Griffin scream with joy seems kind of strange.
Maybe Gordon was kind of lukewarm to his teammates? He seems kind of introverted, who knows.
I've got nothing.
gordon seemed distant and to himself at times
but very much doubt he was disliked
The Clippers are now a "vocal team"
Instead of quiet and lurking, the team will be filled with players that are glitzy. Not bad, but still wish we didn’t lose E.Gordon
maybe...but he said he did want to stay a clipper
if he wasnt liked i doubt he would want to stay
You're full of it
BG screaming joy was not what I would want my superstar to say or do. Be a teammate and show respect.
Surely he didn't know who got traded
Just that we got CP3
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Where did it say that BG screamed with joy
I heard he was excited but, nothing that major?
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown
It said that he screamed with joy and ripped Randy Foye's arms off in happiness
Trust me, I read it on the internet.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
LOL
"The Milkshake" & DJ dunking on people.
by Peter B. Lap on Dec 15, 2011 1:57 AM PST up reply actions
Apologies, anyone?
Anyone ready to apologize to the media guys who had this thing right while the Clips’ front office was saying to the public and to Gordon that he wasn’t part of the deal? I’m waiting.
uh, sure.
dont really care. there were conflicting reports everywhere.
i will miss eric gordon.
I totally apologize
I was ready to rip Aldridge and Broussard a new one for spreading lies.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Olshey must have read the blog
And saw the cap issues in extending gordon. Why couldnt they keep the pick :(
*CP3 and Griffin = Best PLAYERS in franchise history.
Remember, this would not have been possible without Blake Griffin.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
What are the odds
That the hornets end up with the 1st and 2nd pick (david stern is going to make this happen)
YESSSSSSS CP3 IS A CLIPPER!!!!!!!
I’m going to miss Eric Gordon, but CHRIS FUCKING PAUL EVERYBODY!!!! WOOOO!!!! AND CHAUNCEY BILLUPS AS THE SIXTH MAN OF THE YEAR!!!! BETTER GET YOUR LEAGUE PASS!!!!
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
We now have some cap room, right?
Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.
I don't think so
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
More like $2.5M?
Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.
That's more like it
Kaman + EJ + Aminu is just a little over Paul’s salary
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
hah, loved eddie jones
favorite player ever, still
Is there a way we can somehow get OJ Mayo from the Grizz??
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
There was that Bledsoe for Mayo rumor last year, right?
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
could chris paul and blake griffin technically both leave in two years?
this thought scares the wojnarowskis out of me
by NoBandwagoners on Dec 14, 2011 5:04 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Not unless the Clippers don’t match an offer sheet for Griffin. He wouldn’t be a UFA by then.
They’ll also give Griffin max money next year before it even comes to that.
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
so happy for ralph, hopefully people start to realize how good he is
his voice will be heard A LOT this year
Newbie
Mike making San Antonion comparisons
as being a destination and building around Blake/CP3
Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.
any chance it will be online later
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown
we are 14 mill under the cap??
So that means we can get another great player??
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
wait, is this true?
currently when this deal goes through?
starting 2, backup big.
I saw a comment above me saying we are
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
by ClipperBEAST on Dec 14, 2011 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
PGs
So we now have 4 PGs. Are w becoming or trying to be like the Wolves?
by lovinglosangeles on Dec 14, 2011 5:05 PM PST reply actions
4
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
split 4 or 5
wine um, dine um, 69 um
by flightofthegriffin on Dec 14, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
9.5
Good question
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Chuck Testa
"The Milkshake" & DJ dunking on people.
by Peter B. Lap on Dec 15, 2011 2:00 AM PST up reply actions
i dont really care
but how is mo williams going to react if he was somewhat upset that billups was signed to now becoming 3rd string
by NoBandwagoners on Dec 14, 2011 5:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Starting PG = Paul
Starting SG = Billups
First guard off the bench = Mo
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
True but he's out for what 2 months?
By then we could trade Mo for a SG
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
he can play at the 2 as well
as the team stands he can still get his 20-25 mins
Clippers reportedly won't be waiving Chauncey Billups.
I’m glad about that.
I love me some veterans.
I've got nothing.
I'M SO EXCITED....I'M SO excited....I'm so excited...I'm so confused.
I don’t know what to do…
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
oh right..it was scared....but my statement still applies!
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
14 MILLION in cap space.
We can bring in a veteran shooting guard now! Get Kobe on the phone, LOL…… NOT!
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
We don't have anywhere near that much
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Chris Paul!!!!!!!! Sorry EJ
This is going to be so awesome!!! So much drama to get there, but it feels so good to say CHRIS PAUL is a Clipper, and have it be true!!
Too bad for EJ, but he should become a top 5 scorer in New Orleans and maybe we’ll all have a chance to see Griffin, Chris Paul and EJ as teammates in the all star game.
no because he's selling out season tickets.
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
NBA Jam
Chad Ford
CP3 to Blake Griffin is the closest we’re getting to real life NBA Jam
Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.
hahaha.. totally!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 14, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
Well, the pressure's on now.
These guys have to produce.
dont we need a back up center now??
dj cant possibly play more then 35 minutes a game
Net fan here...
Just wanted to say congratulations and I’m happy the Lakers did not acquire him…. Clippers will have a bright future and I fully expect Clippers to supersede the Lakers this upcoming season… Griffin is already better than Gasol and Paul is leagues ahead of Fisher.. Bryant is irrelevant because Clippers are younger and have more depth.
Good luck on landing D12
I hope it happens soon because I have tickets for when you come here in January
Problem is Lakers are in the mix
So I hope Orlando does not trade him there.
You've got better assets
Don’t worry.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Classy comment. Thanks!
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
The benefit of trading for a superstar is
we are now an attractive destination for the super stars. Yes it sucks to lose EJ because he was a good kid, but we are now on the big stage. People will be lining up to play for the Clips.
+1
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 14, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
This sucks…. im pretty sure EJ feels so mad right now just how LO poured himself out on the radio station thinking he was gonna stay and play the next season with the original roster. EJ must be sad thinking he has to leave a new and upcoming team, i mean EJ is so young and has the most potential i see in a SG and was by far my favorite clipper since he was drafted
Clips' Nation
Eagles!
at first i was upset ...
But seriously, did we just get the best pg of this era? Yes. This is an organization that needed to make a statement somehow and finally, its been made. Also, cp3 will get other fa’s to come here … Ej wouldn’t be able to do that (as much as that pains me).
CAN’T WAIT! – Bart Scott
by yaggiefresh on Dec 14, 2011 5:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions
+1
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 14, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
Will Jack Switch To Clippers Season Tickets?
Don’t think so
But many other entertainment people will
As long as they leave the lights on
And no stupid girls dressed like they’re going to a club, texting the entire game.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I bet Billy Crystal will start showing up to clipper games again
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown
so the Timberwolves
are my 2nd favorite team this season. I’m hoping that minny pick ends up like at least 10th.
+1
Maybe the Lakers will give them Pau for a Pg
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Next up...
Dwight Howard does NOT go to the Lakers! Ha!
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
Neil, I trusted you
Shit I’m so f’n pissed of, I don’t want to trade EJ
by paris clips man on Dec 14, 2011 5:13 PM PST via mobile reply actions
yea hate to see him go
specially if we promised him he wouldn’t be traded
by clippersfan10 on Dec 14, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly! THANK YOU MARKO!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 14, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
A good way of looking at it
Makes me feel better thinking like that
anyone want to pick up Redd
for like the minimum?
And maybe Pryzbilla?
Only way i forgive Olshey
He has to get Afflalo now
by paris clips man on Dec 14, 2011 5:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
but I want to collect
all the injury prone players. It’s like pokemon.
I wouldn't mind going after Pryzbilla
great defender, good locker room guy, tough enforcer type that can go after anyone that messes with Blake or CP3, rebounds well. I think he would fit well.
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown
We need to throw a offer sheet at Stuckey
by KillaClip on Dec 14, 2011 5:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions
i forgot about afflalo
that would be huge
wine um, dine um, 69 um
by flightofthegriffin on Dec 14, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
but yes, he would be absolutely perfect
virtually every team could say that.
ucla product, too
LOL what took so long?
Tell me about the leverage again.
Wait...do we (the Clips) have $14M in cap space? Really?
Save it and sign Howard.
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one year deals
no clue how the cap is working right now
what a whiny man
Dan Gilbert: “How can you justify building another powerhouse in a big market?”
by NoBandwagoners on Dec 14, 2011 5:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions
This is after we gave him Kyrie
Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.
Did he just say that?
Source?
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
I like the thought of Paul and Billups on the floor at the same time.
This could be an exciting season, assuming all these guys are happy.
I've got nothing.
Let's go Wolves
I can’t imagine how EJ must feel, i really hope the wolves somehow get the 8th seed.
well yeah I guess I can start rooting for the Wolves now.
and be excited to see Rubio play.
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Who's still out there - Afflalo, Nick Young, Reggie Williams?
Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.
damn, moves so quick
Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.
I Was Starting To Really Admire Olshey
@ Meercatjohn: I was already thinking it was smart to pick up the other two seats again, but this is a bad deal. How much difference is Paul going to make over what we already had? Enough to offset all we just gave away? For a maybe a season and a half of Paul? EJ was DWade Jr. Who knows what the Minny pick may turn out to be. As Chris Isaak once sang, “Baby did a bad, bad thing.” Shame on you for caving, Olshey.
by Clipster Hipster on Dec 14, 2011 5:16 PM PST reply actions
How is it maybe a season and a half?
It’s definitely two seasons.
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
I'm Only Counting This Season A Half
By the time players get and shape and get use to playing with each other, the season will be half over
by Clipster Hipster on Dec 14, 2011 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
I think by Jan 31st you will have changed your tune. Hope so anyway. Vegas thinks so.
Someone at TrueBlueLA posted that the Vegas odds moved from 50 – 1 to 15 – 1after the trade was announced.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
It Was 15-1 Just On The Rumors
I saw that, but it was 15-1 just on the rumors Paul was coming here. Funny, when the odds were 50-1 I thought it might be worth a flier, but I haven’t been to Vegas in 15 years. Sure wish I would have gotten a bet down now. Still think it was a dumb deal. Where else was the NBA going to go? Who else were we bidding against? Lakers didn’t have anything to offer NBA wanted. With a little more patience I think we would have gotten Paul and kept Gordon.
by Clipster Hipster on Dec 14, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
or Nick Young.... They need to be back in L.A.....
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
by ClipperBEAST on Dec 14, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
the only guy that could replace EJ
by paris clips man on Dec 14, 2011 5:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The KNEES can someone elaborate on the knees?
It looks really bad…
http://www.celticslife.com/2011/12/chris-paul-knee-issue.html
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This is why this is a sketchy trade
If he were healthy, then I’d be more willing to move on from thinking about losing a top-3 SG
Neil Olshey...
General Manager of the Century.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
I'm reading both that we're getting 2nd round picks and 1st round pick
It has to be 2nd round, right?
Most likely 2nd
It’d be nice if it were a 1st, but that’d defeat the point of having them build through a draft
WTF are we going to do with 2nd rounders?!
The next Guillermo Diaz is ours!!
The Wolves better be good this year…
by paris clips man on Dec 14, 2011 5:21 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Uhm, DJ was a 2nd rounder...
Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.
yea considering the Hornets have no one
EJ, Okafor, and Ariza? Hopefully they’ll be high 2nd rounders. Haven’t heard the dates of them though… as soon as 2012?
2015
and they are suppose to be locked up like the brinks truck.
Dunno about you guys but this is how excited I am:
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 5:19 PM PST reply actions
yea that's the face you make
when stern blows his wad on you
wine um, dine um, 69 um
by flightofthegriffin on Dec 14, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
okay...if blake stays because of chris paul...then maybe its worth it...
but if blake would have stayed with EJ anyway..then not worth it
we need a back up center...
is there even anybody out there??
I'm willing to bet that we finally get some ABC games now! LOL
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Hell has frozen over
The clippers are the number one trending topic on yahoo
GUYS... Save the cap room for next summer
Dwight might like teaming with 2 MVP level talents in Los Angeles who knows? =P
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 5:22 PM PST reply actions
Now that we have CP3, we can realisticly attract top name free agents.
This is another reason why this is a good trade!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 14, 2011 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
True, we amnesty Mo and trade Gomes
We start to have some signficant play money.
Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.
Can Eric Bledsoe play the 2?
Hell, Billups could play the 2 if need be. Chris Paul will make either of them look like superstars at the 2.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
Eric Bledsoe at the 2? Ew... who guards Kobe =/
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
Kobe's knees, finger, and advanced age will guard Kobe.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
not too many 2's that you need to defend
Kobe, Dwade, Ray Allen, uhm Ginobili, haha, sure theirs more, but I think EB has the physical tools match up with a lot of them, just needs to learn to use them.
Exactly.
We have a max slot. Sign Dwight in 2012.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Dec 14, 2011 5:22 PM PST reply actions
Think about it this way, guys...
we just traded a MAYBE All-Star (Gordon) for a top five player in the NBA (Paul).
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
...which, for all we know, could turn out to be a bust.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
just hope CP3 won't leave in 2years
And the Minny pick won’t become the next superstar.
Man that thought is horrifying
by paris clips man on Dec 14, 2011 5:23 PM PST via mobile reply actions
most likely he will
i just have that feeling
by clippersfan10 on Dec 14, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
and ej becoming the next dwayne wade
Max McCarthy
by Swagmeister33 on Dec 14, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
i know....and a backup power forward
we are so thin after blake and deandre
i really like marcin gortat
i wonder if we could put together a trade with some of our surplus guards to the suns for him
by NoBandwagoners on Dec 14, 2011 5:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yes it has Travis, yes it has
@FlightLeslie23 Travis Leslie
Wow it has just got real
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
You people are ridiculous.
Stop being so damn negative… we got CHRIS FREAKING PAUL! AND we have money for Dwight Howard!
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
I don't mean a trade.
I mean signing him in free agency.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
omg
i didnt even think about that is dwight howard a possibility? we have nothing to trade
by NoBandwagoners on Dec 14, 2011 5:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
DJ, Bledsoe, and Trey Thompkins
haha. lets get it done.
its not that we got chris paul
im sure everybody here is happy on that fact ….its that we gave up WAY too much
Now What?
I’m just wondering, where does that leave us as far as a shooting guard? Will we be looking to improve there as well or are we set?
Billups - Foye - Leslie
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 14, 2011 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
have a bunch of cap room now
a couple of quality one year deals would be perfect
Thanks! :D
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 14, 2011 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
So...
clearly premature, but I wonder what our odd of locking Paul up are.
We can pay him and over him more than any other team right?
Have to build smart now. Don’t want to get into a Orlando, Cleveland, scenario where we keep blowing it because we can’t get the right pieces together.
by dulciusXasperis on Dec 14, 2011 5:28 PM PST reply actions
His knees!
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his knees are sketch,
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Yep
Let’s wait a year; see how his knees hold. Don’t sign some B.Roy deal and get screwed. We don’t get to amnesty this one.
You a doctor now?
Where are all the people worried about Griffin’s knees?
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2011 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly... Newtybar you don't know anything about his knees and didn't provide a link
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
scroll up i I did provide a link. but here's the excerpt.
Paul underwent surgery on the knee in early February. Noted orthopedist Dr. James Andrews, unable to sew the damaged piece of cartilage, cut it away instead, one of the primary reasons Paul played in just 45 games last season, and New Orleans found itself in the draft lottery instead of the playoffs.
Paul returned at the end of last season after rehabbing the knee, perhaps unwisely, which led to an offseason of further rehabilitation to get the knee as close to 100 percent as possible.
With Paul wearing a knee brace from the outset of training camp this season, speculation grew about the condition of his knee, fueling bizarre rumors about his health, whether there was any cartilage remaining in the joint, even if it would be necessary to go into the knee again perhaps once this season has ended.
Knees have two meniscus cartilages between the femur and the tibia bones, which provide a cushion so the bones do not grind together.
Because Paul’s torn meniscus could not be repaired by knitting it back together and the tear was sliced away, there’s the prospect of less cushioning cartilage between the bones, making it possible for some bone-on-bone wear and tear in the knee.
Portland’s Brandon Roy recently underwent surgery on both knees because of that issue. Microfracture surgery is sometimes an option for athletes who’ve had cartilage removal
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Does this mean tickets are gonna go up
I loved the fact that clipper games were cheap. I got to see my favorite team play against the NBA elite. Hell i got to see CB34 at the sports arena now i get to cp3 at staples. Thanks eric gordon for hurting your wrist and making your draft stock fall. Just think the clippers could have drafted bayless and this wouldnt be possible. long live MDSR
Season tickets are 99% sold out
No single options available
by Ricekrispy10 on Dec 14, 2011 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
Who would actually pay $ to see sports in person?
Always trips me out…
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
The energy and crowds and just the overall experience is incredible
by Ricekrispy10 on Dec 14, 2011 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
I'd rather have a BBQ, friends, and drinks with an HD big screen television...
but I guess thats me
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
Staple center and the hollywood night life
are a great combo. There’s nothing like being there. games at home dont do justice. I remeber when the clips were in the playoffs against denver felton gave me high five after they won. Staples was going crazy.
omg tickets are going to be sky high.
I already looked for tickets before all this (when talks were dead) and they were so much higher than what you’re used to when the clippers attracted family with low prices. Those days a long gone with Blake and now with CP3 haha.
Oh well. Worth it!
by dulciusXasperis on Dec 14, 2011 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
Try Goldstar.com
They’ve already got discount Clipper seats up. Not for the premium teams, but you can still get a good deal.
by Clipster Hipster on Dec 14, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
I had a chance to buy premiers at $1300/each
thent hey jumped to 2600…now they are sold out…
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Eric Gordon never played a full season
i dont see why people are tripping. I
This will grow on me
As it will everyone else. Just wait till we start seeing BG and CP3 together on the court at the same time
ya it will, but ej was a straight g
Max McCarthy
by Swagmeister33 on Dec 14, 2011 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
gosh darn it worst part of this trade
we pissed off frankie
frankiemuniz: Thrilled my Clippers are getting CP3, but bummed we traded Eric Gordon. Gordon’s my favorite player in the league… [via Twitter]
by NoBandwagoners on Dec 14, 2011 5:32 PM PST via mobile reply actions
watch NBA TV HERE
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/66991/1/watch-nba-tv.html
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
what is all this talk about having cap space again?
don’t salaries match? I’m confused.
on nba tv they're talking about 14 mil
im not really getting it
They're clueless
They forgot to add in Paul’s $16+M
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Vicious rumor
We’re over the cap right now.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
That I don't know
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Nice.
Looking forward to Feb. 18th! :)
First you must find... another shrubbery! Then, when you have found the shrubbery, you must place it here, beside this shrubbery, only slightly higher so you get a two layer effect with a little path running down the middle. Then, you must cut down the mightiest tree in the forrest... with... a herring!
That gun carrying little guy
has’nt been to a clipper game in a minute.
The NBA trade machine, revisited
I don’t believe in the trade machine. However, I ran the trade through it and the Clippers lose 5 wins, the Hornets gain 3. Plus, the Hornets get a high #1 next year.
Who paid too much?
I don't think the trade machine knows we got Billups
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I saw that other report
It said the Clips are a 40 win team (in a shortened season) since Billups, and if we make the Paul trade, we’re a 44 win team.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I'm sad now
but i’m sure I’ll get over it if we come out of the gate 5-0. If we struggle and/or CP3’s knees don’t hold up it’ll take me a long time to get over this one. I just hope it works out.
Did Chris Paul have ANY knee trouble last year?
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
With that type of logic you might as well say "I wonder if Eric Gordons knees will hold up..."
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
Chris Paul averaged 22 and 11 in the playoffs with Okafor as his best teammate
I think he will be fine ;-)
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
He has the same issue as BRoy and is missing a significant amount of cartilage.
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
Is it wrong to want EJ back? BECAUSE I MISS ALREADY!
Jets, Cowboys, Mets, Islanders, Bulls & Clippers
Hey guess what guys?
Our offense is never going to go stagnant again. Ever. There is always an offensive plan when Chris Paul is on the floor. His BBIQ alone is enough that even with knee troubles, he’s still a hugely effective playmaker. Maybe his scoring drops off, but that’s ok.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
to back up DJ lol
We have no other Center on the roster
by KillaClip on Dec 14, 2011 5:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Anybody hearing anything about us getting a 2 guard or back up C??
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
You guys are so worried about a shooting guard while we have no backup bigs!
Specially when you know Deandre’s BBQ with fouls situation. Who do we bring in
Cookie? Our first order of business is getting another big in here ASAP!
Hollinger***
Hollinger: “Paul led the league in PER for a while last season and finished sixth overall in the category, ahead of MVP Derrick Rose. There’s no question he’s an amazing player, and under his guidance the Hornets have been the league’s best crunch-time offense over the past half-decade.”
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 5:44 PM PST reply actions
last thing he wants to do is be in LA close to the Kardacians haha
Max McCarthy
by Swagmeister33 on Dec 14, 2011 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
how about as part of the deal
we ban kim from staples center
Nope... not till end of March and by then its too late
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
Thought they allowed
teams to bribe the chinese teams up to $500k to let them go, in the new CBA. Haven’t heard any success in that regard, but I think Wilson Chandler is my favorite of the guys in china. I wouldn’t be too against Kenyon, even though I was never a big fan of his, he’s definitely an enforcer and would be a good defender to spell either Blake or even DJ.
CBA Doesn't Allow It
China Basketball Association
Yes
apparently you can buy them out. Do they have cap room for J Rich if they amnesty Gomes or Mo?
Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.
by ClipperChuck on Dec 14, 2011 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sorry
that picture of CP3 in the NOH jersey and the Clippers logo behind doesnt do it for me, need to see him in a Clippers jersey for this to actually sink in haha
"..We have the talent and capabilities so why not go for it?" BJ Raji
Eric Pincus on EJ
“Olshey had indicated on Tuesday that one of team’s primary goals for summer was a long-term extension with Gordon. He said that now that the dust had settled on the roster (presumptive at the time in retrospect), he and Gordon’s agent Rob Pelinka would talk more extensively.
It would appear Pelinka was asking for more than the Clippers intended to play, which may have led to a reconsideration of their position."
That makes sense
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Apparently it had to be BOTH
Do not mind including EJ in the deal however I was hoping that the Clips would hold onto the Minny pick. Apparently leverage only gets you so far. Kudos to Stern for getting value for NO and CP3.
Where do we go from here?
If this thread is bogging down...
There’s another front page thread at this point. I’ll be gone for a bit… Behave yourselves.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
*sneaks alcohol into thread*
As Clipper fans we have to occasionally remember that the outside world, the real world, believes that we’re all insane. They don’t understand us at all. What we do doesn’t make any rational sense to them. - citizen zhiv
you know things are going good when del taco employees are talking about the clips. - ImranQ
Props to Olshey
I figured he’d be scared to put his job on the line and just be content and let us wait 2-3 more years for something to happen but this was a big time move.
Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.
So Chauncey will start at 2 and Mo will be 6th man
We have the best PG rotation of all time at least.
HOF, potential HOF, and former all star.
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