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The Hornets are My New Second Favorite Team

The reaction of Clips Nation to the trade that brought a four time All Star and three time All NBA selection to the Los Angeles Clippers has been surprisingly mixed. Many citizens are less than jubilant. That's OK. You become attached to the players on a team and it's disquieting when suddenly they're gone. Besides, it's more than a little strange to think that the team we were rooting for two seasons ago is now scattered to the four winds, except for DeAndre Jordan and a draft pick named Blake Griffin who didn't even play that season. Come on, Neil Olshey, bring back Craig Smith so we'll have another familiar face on the team. Maybe we need to bring in MBFGC to get in touch with Clipper history a bit.

Star-divide

The other side of that coin is that now many of us have a new NBA team to root for: the New Orleans Hornets. Now, the old-timers here know that the Suns have always been my mistress team. I was a huge fan when I lived in Phoenix in the late 80s, and it hasn't hurt that Steve Nash has been there in recent years. But Nash is nearing retirement, and could very well be ending his career elsewhere. Not to mention that the Suns are in serious decline right now. So it's not a bad time for me personally to be looking for a new team.

The Hornets don't figure to be good this season - but I'll certainly be following them with great interest, cheering for Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman and Al-Farouq Aminu. It's funny - I'd love for Kyrie Irving to be a bust, and for the Timberwolves (another candidate for second favorite team this season) to do well, just to dull the sting of everything the Clippers have given up in recent trades. But I can't possibly find it in me to root against the actual players I've watched grow up as Clippers. Nothing would make me happier than for Gordon to have an All Star season, for Kaman to return to All Star form and for Farouq to have a break out year.

Unfortunately, small market New Orleans isn't on TV a whole lot this season (one of the myriad reasons that a player like Chris Paul might want to relocate to a different city). So far I've resisted buying League Pass - I already watch 82 Clipper games, and have access to 82 more Lakers games and a zillion other games on TNT, ESPN, ABC and NBA-TV - it's just excessive to pay for League Pass on top of all that. Besides - I like being married and hope to remain that way. But now I've got a team I actually want to see out there in the boondocks.

The good news for us LA-based Hornets fans is that we can still see at least a dozen games this season. Of course there are the three they play against the Clippers, and the three against the Lakers (although listening to Bill Macdonald and Stu Lance is going to be brutal). They have one game each on ESPN and TNT, so we're up to eight. They have seven more games on NBA-TV as well, but as it happens three of those are against the Lakers or the Clippers, so that only adds four more to our total. We won't have to wait long to catch the former Clippers on TV - New Orleans is on NBA-TV twice between Christmas and New Years.

Maybe I'll get lucky and I'll catch them a couple more times, on WGN against the Bulls or on YES against the Nets. I know I have access to those channels but I'm not sure how many games they show. (And FSM-forbid, I may not be able to watch that YES game in HD!) I guess a dozen or so New Orleans games will have to suffice.

Or maybe I'll break down and get League Pass. Go Hornets! (Oh, and while we're at it, Go T-Wolves!)

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for this year my 2nd fave team are the Wolves

and I wouldn’t mind if they’d give us Webster for a 2nd rounder

by paris clips man on Dec 15, 2011 11:25 AM PST reply actions  

Go TWolves

I’m hoping more for the TWolves to be a success so that first rounder isn’t a high pick. Ricky Rubio, please be great!

by VA Dallas Fan on Dec 15, 2011 11:39 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah but if they perform well

then we wont have the sting of losing a potential top 3 pick

by dulciusXasperis on Dec 15, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Rooting for the T-Wolves too

Still think they are going to be very bad…but I will gladly be wrong

by MikeV7297 on Dec 15, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

That's probably the main reason I can root for them now

but as a UCLA fan as well, have to love Love. If that pick was ours obviously I couldn’t root for them, not matter how much I wanted to. Weird I’ve been dreading Rubio coming over for so long, and implanted in my mind that he’s going to be a bust because of that pick, but I suddenly just realized, I kinda like the kid, and hope he plays the game with the savoir-faire he’s shown flashes of.

Definitely will be rooting for EJ and Farouq as well. Sadly I have to say I “could care less” about how their record ends up though, and would greatly disappointed if they somehow manage to be in the playoff hunt at all against the Clips.

by osamu on Dec 15, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I am not married

so I can hang a Jimi Hendrix poster in my living room or leave my socks on the floor for weeks at a time if I want without getting screamed at!

"I gotta have more cowbell!"

by PV Mike on Dec 15, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too

"The Milkshake" & DJ dunking on people.

by Peter B. Lap on Dec 15, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm still bummed about gordon

but i can see why they did it. very difficult to keep so many stars on a roster with the cap. although like steve i’ll probably follow NO as my 2nd team now. he’s going to be an all star, now it’s just a question of how high his ceiling is.

by zac4president on Dec 15, 2011 12:09 PM PST reply actions  

This is a very important 66 games for EJ

that will gauge what he will be offered as a RFA. I think given the team he is on now, he could contend for league’s scoring title but I project he may end up just below Durant and Rose. I just do not want to see him turning into a Monta Ellis to get his points.

"I gotta have more cowbell!"

by PV Mike on Dec 15, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

dont think he will

he’s been so efficient as a clipper, im thinking kevin martin with defense is something in his future.

aka something any team would love

aka something we love :(

by shap on Dec 15, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I gonna miss that Minni pick, too

What other mystical-future-unknown will ever take its place? It’s been like a companion all these years.

"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT

by SilverClip on Dec 15, 2011 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

this is nice
Eric Pincus
I have verified that the Clippers did attain a trade exception – I believe for $3.8 mil

by BelgianClipper on Dec 15, 2011 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

That's huge

Not sure who they can acquire exactly but there’s usually some thing looking to dump salary at some point where this exception will prove useful.

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Dec 15, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Paul George

Hindsight being 20/20 of course, but during last years draft, I thought Paul George was the better pick over AFA, it’s still very early, but so far George is the better player, not even close.http://www.indystar.com/article/20111215/SPORTS04/112150368/1062/SPORTS04

"Where will the Clippers be without Sean Rooks" - The big red head

by Eclips on Dec 15, 2011 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

Are you freaking kidding me?

NBA players aren’t supposed to grow… that’s awesome.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Dec 15, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it's cuz he was drafted young.

If I remember right David Robinson grew a lot while in college. Something like 4". I wish I grew taller after high school…

by Chris McD on Dec 15, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it was 6 or 7

I believe the Naval Academy has a height limit of 6ft6 because of how ships are built. When he was admitted he was under that height threshold.

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Dec 15, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

They told me I would keep growing in college

They lied :(

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Dec 15, 2011 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I grew in college

Unfortunately is was my waist line

"I gotta have more cowbell!"

by PV Mike on Dec 15, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

i grew a few inches in college

i took amino acid supplements back then. works like a charm.

by Jakespeed on Dec 16, 2011 3:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Doesn't much matter

Whatever pick it was would have ended up in this trade, and I doubt the Hornets would have rated George or Hayward or anyone else who was on the board at the time that differently than AFA in evaluating this trade.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Dec 15, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

This may or may not be the case Steve

However, if we had selected George, we would not have been so inclined to keep Bledsoe.
With George’s potential, I doubt the Clippers organization would overpay of Butler’s services.

"Where will the Clippers be without Sean Rooks" - The big red head

by Eclips on Dec 15, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

it would have made some difference

….perhaps even the tipping point for something a little more favorable for is, if AFA was Paul George, but its not worth much debating over. It’s neither here nor there.

Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin

by Takebb909 on Dec 15, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

"It's neither here nor there"...

I swear, I can’t find it anywhere, sure ain’t in my closet or under my bed, this love search is really making me bug…haha, sorry can’t help it. LL COOL J – “I Need Love”

"Where will the Clippers be without Sean Rooks" - The big red head

by Eclips on Dec 15, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm with you

I’ll be watching and cheering for the Hornets this year too. I have the opportunity to pick free tix this year and the Hornets were one of the first teams I was looking for on the home schedule (I always look for the 76ers too so I can boo Brand, but he’s not coming this year). I’d love to be able to cheer for EJ and Kaman again.

by TPan on Dec 15, 2011 12:47 PM PST reply actions  

A quick break from CP3 talk

Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. Just sign G/F Bonzi Wells who has not played since 2008.
If Cat Mobley really wants to get back into the league this is the phone call he needs to make.

"I gotta have more cowbell!"

by PV Mike on Dec 15, 2011 1:03 PM PST reply actions  

Not quite a PG

but ok.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Dec 15, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

opposite effect for me

the hornets used to be my mistress team because cp3 was my favorite player (up until blake entered the L). i’ll still follow them to see how ej/kaman/aminu do, but now that cp3 is a clipper, i should get enough fulfillment from my own team to not need to stray and cheer for a mistress.

by jon y on Dec 15, 2011 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

Off topic but

Does anyone have Direct TV? I don’t think I get FSNPT or FSW

by cliptakular on Dec 15, 2011 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

darn

I need to purchase it. How much is it extra?

by cliptakular on Dec 15, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Shouldn't cost extra if you live in the LA area

If you don’t, you have to buy the sports pack, which costs anywhere from about $10-$15 a month depending on how many other premium channels you subscribe to. But that won’t get you the games if you’re out of market — they’re blacked out on those channels if you’re not in the home market. Only way to get the games is NBA League Pass.

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.

by boltsfan21 on Dec 15, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely.

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.

by boltsfan21 on Dec 15, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Kelenna Azubuike...

Where is he?

Why didn’t he play last year??

Why isn’t he in our camp right now???

…..he would be a great back up at the 2

Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin

by Takebb909 on Dec 15, 2011 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

He spent

A year rehabilitating a very troublesome injury — ruptured patella tendon., but is expected back soon

"Where will the Clippers be without Sean Rooks" - The big red head

by Eclips on Dec 15, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

He had a season ending injury with the Nets

and that was the last I had heard ofhim

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown

by bestclipfan on Dec 15, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

edit: of him

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown

by bestclipfan on Dec 15, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

righ...but

That was the 09-10 season in which he got hurt, then the entirety of last season as well. He should be healthy, right?

Look at the guys numbers from when he played last. He would be a great backup at the SG. He’s got enough size. His nubmers seemed better than Month Evans.

Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin

by Takebb909 on Dec 15, 2011 2:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Month=Mo

…dang BBerry auto correct.

Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin

by Takebb909 on Dec 15, 2011 2:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Bring back MBFGC!

We could use a backup center for sure. Are his visa details finally worked out?

Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin

by 82-0 on Dec 15, 2011 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

Wont happen

Nor should we want it to happen.

"Where will the Clippers be without Sean Rooks" - The big red head

by Eclips on Dec 15, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

This is funny (Andrew Bynum)
The Lakers’ storylines are getting tired. Going for their third-straight title in Phil Jackson’s last year was a great plot. Even the final conflagration was fascinating as Pau Gasol disappeared and Andrew Bynum went all Charlie Sheen.

by lovinglosangeles on Dec 15, 2011 1:32 PM PST reply actions  

Pau Gasol

With everything that have transpired or is transpiring this off-season, with the failed trade attempts and rumors, rhetoric’s aside, one has to wonder if Pau will give the Laker organization “his all”, assuming he’ll remain with the team?

"Where will the Clippers be without Sean Rooks" - The big red head

by Eclips on Dec 15, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

probably

pau is a professional. like ej. unlike odom.

by jon y on Dec 15, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I never much cared for Odom

Some say his game is underrated. I say it’s overrated.

"Where will the Clippers be without Sean Rooks" - The big red head

by Eclips on Dec 15, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

If the reported rumors

were true, and EJ’s agent, Rob Pelinka desired too much compensation during the resigning negotiations, then Iosing EJ shouldn’t make us feel so lousy.

"Where will the Clippers be without Sean Rooks" - The big red head

by Eclips on Dec 15, 2011 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

wow

maybe EJ and his agent should talk more often. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. I suggest he he fires his agent and get State Farm.

by cliptakular on Dec 15, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Very good agent

Same as Kobe’s

"I gotta have more cowbell!"

by PV Mike on Dec 15, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I know

But still, EJ was was really caught off guard. If EJ had a certain number in his mind that he wouldn’t budge on, then it’s on him and not the Clips. Number meaning the amount on the extension btw

by cliptakular on Dec 15, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Pelinka

was doing his job, working the best deal for EJ, with that in mind, why would EJ fire him? Being traded to NO sucks right now, especially for a kid like EJ, but money speaks in this league(life).

"Where will the Clippers be without Sean Rooks" - The big red head

by Eclips on Dec 15, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Well the way people around here were acting

EJ must be a max player, so why wouldn’t Pelinka ask for max money? If you don’t want to trade the guy for Chris Paul then you certainly should be phased when he wants to get paid.

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.

by boltsfan21 on Dec 15, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

true

personally, I’d start him at 12 mil

by cliptakular on Dec 15, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny That You Should Mention NBA League Pass

Even though I watch all the Clippers games (live) and all the Lakers games either live or on replay and college to boot, I like to subscribe to NBA League Pass (I am no longer married.) I get their Choice Plan subscription. This is what they just emailed me.

Dear NBA Fan,

Your NBA LEAGUE PASS BROADBAND CHOICE subscription will automatically renew on December 25, 2011. Your account will not be billed until early February 2012 at the exclusive price of $99.00. This pricing is only for our returning customers. There is NO ACTION necessary on your part to ensure that your subscription is renewed. For the 2011-2012 NBA season, your subscription will provide access to regular season games for 5 NBA teams*. Beginning December 26, 2011, simply go to www.nba.com/lpbb/launch

to watch games live.

That is a whooping $10 reduction off of the price for new subscribers this season for the Choice Plan and a couple of months delay in billing. It is amazing what a 7% + increase in the leagues share of the BRI will get fans. Last year they gave a 7 team selection. Guess they got an increase in prices from their ISP or didn’t upgrade their bandwidth. LOL

by Buddahfan on Dec 15, 2011 1:49 PM PST reply actions  

clipperdarrell Clipper Darrell
I will be live on @SportsCenter tonight at 6:05 pacific time talking about our @LACLIPPERS team
11 minutes ago

by Buddahfan on Dec 15, 2011 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

I guess

he fixed his beamo baby!! (reference form GoldenBoy for those who are wondering)

"Where will the Clippers be without Sean Rooks" - The big red head

by Eclips on Dec 15, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

nbastats NBA Basketball
NBA News Agent: Hornets, forward Carl Landry agree to deal (bostonherald): Share With Friends: | | Sports – Ba… feedzil.la/rt190H

29 minutes ago

by Buddahfan on Dec 15, 2011 2:00 PM PST reply actions  

Yea

8.8 million for one year. They obviously paid him a premium to sign a one year deal but makes sense that they wouldn’t want to lock in any multi-year deals with the ownership issues. They also picked up Bellinari again. They won’t win 56% of their games like last year but they won’t be the Timberwolves either.

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Dec 15, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Bellinari = Belinelli + Gallinari?

He seems very.. Italian.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Dec 15, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Where is Wally?

hope he has a role in the next Karate Kid film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kj6h8TF58U

"Where will the Clippers be without Sean Rooks" - The big red head

by Eclips on Dec 15, 2011 2:03 PM PST reply actions  

You have to hook me up

"Where will the Clippers be without Sean Rooks" - The big red head

by Eclips on Dec 15, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Not that it matter to us and it looks nice

but I wonder if this is bootlegged and trademark infringement.

"I gotta have more cowbell!"

by PV Mike on Dec 15, 2011 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure it will be taken down shortly

Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.

by ganima on Dec 15, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Just got mine

type “shipfree” into the coupon code box at checkout and you get 10% off

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.

by boltsfan21 on Dec 15, 2011 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Alert
clippstvsmith Michael John Smith
Just met Chauncey Billups and Chris Paul. Two incredible winners! Press conference tonight at 5 on FSW
1 hour ago

by Buddahfan on Dec 15, 2011 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

Ralph said on twitter that Billups practiced this morning

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown

by bestclipfan on Dec 15, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

It's my birthday today

I woke up and I found out about the Chris Paul trade. It’s like getting a present. You’re all excited about it and start to unwrap the package when you realize you got a sweater. This is how I felt when I found out we gave up EJ. Poker face. I love this guy, he will definitely missed, and it’s sad to see him go like this. I will definitely keep rooting for him and for his new team, I believe he will be a star in this league. Hopefully my sweater turns out to be the best sweater I ever got for my birthday. Looking forward to this season, the League Pass is in my pocket.

"The Milkshake" & DJ dunking on people.

by Peter B. Lap on Dec 15, 2011 2:29 PM PST reply actions  

It's the best sweater in the world

unless you don’t like sweaters or live in the desert you won’t have a problem.

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Dec 15, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh

and Happy Birthday!

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Dec 15, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Happy Birthday,

Neil Olshey wrapped a special present for you that you can get at 5.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown

by bestclipfan on Dec 15, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Where the Minnesota pick ends up going

is inconsequential to me. It could be the 1st overall pick in 2012 and its still worth trading for CP3.

The Irving thing only matters because they could have used him and kept EJ.

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Dec 15, 2011 2:30 PM PST reply actions  

No clear #1 picks this year...

Maybe Anthony Davis?

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Dec 15, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

They Need A Center

and Drummond would not only clog the paint but he is so immense he almost clogs the parking lot entrance.

I like Henson better than both at this time but I see Henson more as a PF which is where Davis may end up if he ever develops a game on offense.

Very early but right now I have

1. Barnes
2. Henson
3. Kid-Gilchrist
4. Drummond
5. Davis

by Buddahfan on Dec 15, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Haven't seen any of Henson

And I like Davis more as an NBA player than Drummond. I love love love Kidd-Gilchrist. Not sure about Barnes because he could very easily turn into Marvin Williams v.2.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Dec 15, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

What Do You Like About Davis?

He looks like the second coming of Camby to me albeit not as tall or long without a shot and too prone to foul trouble. Of course the last two are correctable

by Buddahfan on Dec 15, 2011 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Camby developed his shot over three college years

and Davis’ form isn’t bad plus he played guard before his recent growth spurt and can put it on the floor. Freshman year, Camby averaged 10ppg and 6rpg on 49% shooting. Davis is stats are ahead while playing on a stacked Kentucky team.

I like he and Kidd-Gilchrist the best. Drummond seems all potential and Barnes hasn’t show enough aggression to be considered #1.

Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.

by ganima on Dec 15, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

This

He moves a lot quicker than Camby. I think his offensive potential is a lot higher than Camby’s too… so imagine a Camby that didn’t shoot 40% or whatever. That’s insane. He’s still a teenager too.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Dec 15, 2011 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn't care about the Irving thing until recently

At the time I thought it was worth the risk to get rid of Baron’s contract, and I couldn’t fault Olshey just because the longshot happened to come through. The odds are the odds. But now I think he made a mistake, because I found out that folks in the know were pretty confident that the new CBA would come with a new round of amnesty. Seems like it was his job to figure that out — if he hadn’t made that trade, right now we’d have both Irving AND a boatload of cap space from waiving BD.

Then again, if we had Irving, we might not have even tried to go after CP3, so maybe it’s for the best…

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.

by boltsfan21 on Dec 15, 2011 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

If u have NBA TV

u can see Irving in his first rookie preseason game tomorrow.

"I gotta have more cowbell!"

by PV Mike on Dec 15, 2011 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The problem is that there is no way DTS would ever waive BD

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Dec 15, 2011 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Olshey would have to sell him on it

and it would be if you want CP3 we have to waive Baron (like the Knicks did with Billups to get Chandler).

We might even still have EJ if we could offer Irving, Derrick Williams, Kanter, Kemba Walker or Brandon Knight instead (top 3 guys and the 8th and 9th pick of the draft).

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Dec 15, 2011 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt it.

If it was Irving sure, but i stand my my position that the trade affected our record and therefore we wouldn’t have Irving but one of the Walker or Knight and given how we still have Bledsoe i doubt they would have taken them instead of Gordon even if you added Bledsoe.

by XXDC2XX on Dec 15, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Come on - there is no way DTS would waste30M

The fact the cavs amnestied him proves the trade was a good one.

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Dec 16, 2011 12:04 AM PST up reply actions  

plus the fact he out again

I can’t imagine what for impac tthis would have had if BD was still on our team

by BelgianClipper on Dec 16, 2011 12:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Amnestying someone is purely financial

some good players have been amnestied (Billups one of them). The Clips sold the unprotected draft pick.

Also you have Mo making 17 million (vs 27 million Baron deal) in what is a very expensive bench player now.

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Dec 16, 2011 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

In BD's case

It is to rectify a mistake. The Cavs have little talent yet they amnestied BD. Costing 34 M. Think they would have traded for him knowing they would throw away 34M? Um, no.

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Dec 16, 2011 7:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I almost had an accident

I was running an errand and turned on 57AM and the ultimate Laker homer Vic the Brick has changed colors and loves CP3 and the Clippers now. He said he will be at the press conference. I wonder if he will have on a red and blue mink coat and hat.

"I gotta have more cowbell!"

by PV Mike on Dec 15, 2011 2:51 PM PST reply actions  

Public bandwagoners are the worst

John Ireland will start to show the Clips some love now, just wait and see. And then I will have to kick him in the forehead.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Dec 15, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

He already is in a guarded way as he used to work for the Clips

Mason admitted today he felt the Clippers are better and more entertaining. Same with Max and Marcellus. Ireland did bet them $100 the Lakers would have a better record that the Clippers and nobody jumped at it.

"I gotta have more cowbell!"

by PV Mike on Dec 15, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

mason had the cajones to say the lakers chris paul offer was better than the clippers.. uh sure, bro.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 15, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

John Ireland

gets paid REALLY well for his opinions. His target audience soaks up everything he says’ like sponges, without questioning some of his facts or lack there of. His opinions should not have any more relevance than any knowledgeable fan. I can think of many people who are more qualified to do his job for alot less money.

"Where will the Clippers be without Sean Rooks" - The big red head

by Eclips on Dec 15, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

You better believe I will be watching both the Hornets and Clippers on a nightly basis.

I want to see if Eric Gordon can play his way into an All Star with the Hornets, and of course I want to see how the Clippers deal with all the attention now that they two “superstars”.

by NBAFAN8 on Dec 15, 2011 3:28 PM PST reply actions  

Interesting CP3 took a private jet to come in and take his physical today

but I think he cannot practice until the former Clips pass their physicals. I know EJ is arriving tomorrow but isn’t Kaman driving his big assed diesel there?

"I gotta have more cowbell!"

by PV Mike on Dec 15, 2011 4:04 PM PST reply actions  

Lol on Kaman

I’m sure he’ll get a kick out swamp boats, buggies and playing with the critters down in the bayou.

Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.

by ganima on Dec 15, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I could see Kaman fitting right in there. He should be on an episode of “Sons of Guns.”

by Chris McD on Dec 16, 2011 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

what's steve on?

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Dec 15, 2011 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

He is asking a question at the press conference

and yes Steve they should definitely Trade Mark Lob City.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown

by bestclipfan on Dec 15, 2011 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Can't cheer for the hornets

as long as its still run by david stern and his cronies

by herro on Dec 15, 2011 5:39 PM PST reply actions  

Don't hate the playas

Hate the commish

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.

by boltsfan21 on Dec 15, 2011 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Hornets fan here.

I personally was going to root for the Clippers considering what a class act Chris Paul is but your fan base seems to be a bunch of whiny sour grapes.

BTW, any one of you that thinks your team DOWNGRADED by obtaining CP3 is a complete nutjob and just has not been following the NBA.

The guy almost took the Hornets to the WCF with FAAAARRR less talent than ya’ll currently have. ESPN says your a 4-5 seed. Personally, I know CP3 and I know the advanced stats and intangibles he brings to your team. Ya’ll are 1A and 1B with the Thunder in my book.

Soak it in while you can and I’m hoping his knee doesn’t give out even though your hoping the TWolves are better than the former players ya’ll used to love.

by CP3forMVP on Dec 15, 2011 6:55 PM PST reply actions  

i beg your pardon??

We all still love EJ,Kaman, my relationship with aminu never really developed but he was clipper and that’s enough, i want New Orleans to be succesfull.

by XXDC2XX on Dec 15, 2011 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Leverage

Whatever leverage you assumed you had when out the window when the Lakers trade got canned. The NBA wouldn’t let Paul go for anything less than a 80-90cents/dollar deal and that’s what you gave up. There’s a bottom line price you had to meet because the team was league owned and you met it.

Don’t be bitter now. You just obtained a top 5 player in the league. Maybe the best because he makes EVERYBODY around him better. Enjoy it.

by CP3forMVP on Dec 15, 2011 6:59 PM PST reply actions  

Most of us are happy

but we would be happier if we still had EJ. In a way it is not much different from NO relationship with Paul. The Clipper fans saw EJ grow up before their eyes, put their hopes into him and formed a bound with him. The Paul deal was an exceptional opportunity but Gordon will hold a special place in many Clipper fans heart.

Or put it in another way: let’s see how NO fans would react if they had 4 play-off runs in 35 seasons.

by BelgianClipper on Dec 16, 2011 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm a fan of certain players in the league.

Makes it real easy when they get traded not to be heartbroken by trades. I don’t buy any merchandise or pay to watch games in person so as long as I can watch the players I root for on TV who cares if they get traded to a new team who cares?

by ap3604 on Dec 15, 2011 9:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Blazers now third favorite?

Camby, Miller and now Rhino!

Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.

by ganima on Dec 16, 2011 1:49 AM PST reply actions  

Ah, it's late and had flashbacks = no Miller!

Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.

by ganima on Dec 16, 2011 1:52 AM PST up reply actions  

everyone here hates miler.

by hans007 on Dec 16, 2011 3:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Except for Miller, I’ve always respected the Blazers.

by Chris McD on Dec 16, 2011 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

tomhaberstroh Tom Haberstroh
Are the Hornets the next Oklahoma City Thunder? My ranking of the most promising teams in rebuild. ($) es.pn/tbsU5f

25 minutes ago

by Buddahfan on Dec 16, 2011 7:43 AM PST reply actions  

Two thoughts from a Knicks fan

I get liking the Hornets. After the Knicks gave away everyone to the Nuggets I followed that team too.

Should the Clippers change their name to the Griffins?

by mindfeck on Dec 16, 2011 7:49 AM PST reply actions  

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