The Daily Clipper - Weekend Edition - (12/3/11)
by Steve Perrin on Dec 3, 2011 12:03 PM PST
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PrintWell, after dipping to levels not seen in almost three years, traffic on Clips Nation has risen to a near record level this week - which is cool. And that's with very little actual news - just rumors. It's going to get nuts around here when camps actually open and free agents actually start signing.
Weekends are always a little slower around here, but here's a quick Daily Clipper to keep you busy.
StatsCube: Consistent producers needed to support Griffin | NBA.com
NBA.com wasn't allowed to write about players during the lockout. Seems like maybe they were busy writing that whole time, because there's a ton of stuff up there now. Check out their season preview - it's terrific.
Mo Williams guarantees that Clippers will qualify for NBA playoffs - latimes.com
I posted about this last night, but figured it needed a spot in the Daily Clipper as well.
Can Blake Reel In Top Free Agents? - ESPN Video - ESPN
ESPN Video: ESPN NBA analyst Jalen Rose discusses whether top free agents will consider playing for the Clippers. I haven't actually watched this - not that interested in what Jalen Rose has to say, frankly - but thought you might want to see it.
Dwight Howard in Los Angeles -- It just might fly - ESPN Los Angeles
Arash Markazi's story about how Howard could fit on one or the other of the LA teams. Nothing groundbreaking here - we've seen this story a few times already.
Chatting with Al-Farouq Aminu
An interview with AFA from the Clippers training facility Friday. Of note, AFA has been working out about five times a week already, so he should be in decent shape (being 20 helps also). You may recall that AFA's agent structured his deal to pay his rookie contract out over the course of two years because of the lockout, so he's one of the players who didn't miss a paycheck.
Vishnu Parasuraman on the new NBA collective bargaining agreement - Grantland
BRI, systems, mid-level exceptions, amnesties, oh my! Raffo FanShotted the Larry Coon overview yesterday. Here's another good one if you're still wondering what's in the new CBA.
The Ball Still Belongs to the Stars - NYTimes.com
The 149-day N.B.A. lockout was mostly about money, but with a subtext of control. The owners ultimately failed to regain it and the star players appear to be as powerful as ever.
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Great news about Clips Nation traffic
I assume then, I do not have to start a fanpost thread naming all the past or present players named Jones.
"I gotta have more cowbell!"
Thanks Steve
For giving Clipper fans a great venue to discuss, argue, rant, vent etc
This blog is proof to all the naysayers (like my Laker loving friends and relatives)that the Clippers do indeed have a large and passionate fan base that goes beyond the Blake bandwagon. Cheers to you, sir.
RE: Jalen
No surprise, he thinks that even with Blake and EJ, Clippers’ past will prevent stars from joining them . . .sticking to the ESPN script, nothing to see here, move along now. . .
by cassellmania on Dec 3, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Jalen Bootleg
Clippers dont have own building but nor do the lakers, clippers rent out for 42 games but so do the lakers.
Idk why, but I think AFA has the most swag out of anybody in the NBA.
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
Does the majority of Clips Nation still want to trade Kaman for Iggy?
I keep changing my mind!!! One day it’s yes, next day is no…….. I think I made up my mind for good, I say NO DEAL!! There is plenty of capable starting free agent 3’s out there so it would be foolish to trade Kaman for Iggy. First of all, we should sign DJ long term, and if we have enough money, we then sign a player like Tayshaun Prince AND Luc Richard Mbah a Moute. If the opportunity comes where we have the chance to get CP3 in a trade, if the trade involves Gordon or DJ the deal is off. Aminu, Bled, Minny pick, Kaman for CP3 and DJ Mbenga.
CP3/ Mo Williams/ Randy Foye
Gordon/ Randy Foye/ Travis Leslie
Prince/ Mbah a Moute/ Ryan Gomes
Griffin/ Ike Diogu/ Brian Cook
Jordan/ DJ Mbenga/ Ike Diogu
That team will go far into the playoffs.
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
I was always against and still would be, he's overpaid!
Even if we don’t get any of the big All stars if we add Battier/Prince or Butler and
keep both Kaman and DJ we could be a great team barring injury.
AFA seems pretty comfortable and talkative
Good to see him open up a bit. It sounds like he was one of three guys to make it in that first day.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
DJ and His Agent Are Closely Following
the free agent activities of Gasol, Nene and Chandler all of whom have been reported asking for “Max” deals.
If teams are willing to pay from $14 to $20 million beginning in the first year of their contracts for Gasol, Nene and Chandler how much do we think DJ will get offered?
I really love DJ and hope we sign him
but if there ever was a player who benefited from playing next to Blake it is him. Yes he matured on the court last year and he is fun to watch but it would would by crazy to overpay for him except for the bff factor with Blake.
"I gotta have more cowbell!"
The best thing for Jordan’s game and focus is to stick with Blake; the hardest working man in the buisness.
Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin]getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -Steve Perrin
by Takebb909 on Dec 3, 2011 7:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
That's a very big if ...
As far as I’m concerned, everybody’s asking for a max contract — why not? And moreso, if you’re an agent, why not advertise that you’re asking for a max contract for your client? Where’s the downside?
looks like if cp3 can't go to the knicks
he’d prefer us or the magic
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/216983/Paul_Open_To_Trade_To_Magic_Clippers
OMG everyone pray that CP3 goes to the Magic!!
That means Deron Williams will get lonely up in Jersey and will go to the Clippers!!
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
I'd rather have Deron Williams and all of our players then CP3 and less of our players
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
by ClipperBEAST on Dec 3, 2011 10:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
disagree
maybe CP3 is slightly better or about the same. I would say Deron is a better scorer, a better competitor, and most importantly a more sturdy player. But definitely, CP3 is not a “far, far superior” player. no way.
No, it's the Clip Show!
It's a slight to DWill to say that Paul is a "far, far superior player."
I personally have liked Paul better (I’ve been more of a fan of his), but Williams is right up there with him as a player. For some teams, Williams is actually a better fit between the two and I think we’re one of those teams. When the two have gone head-to-head, Deron usually outperforms Paul. These guys are both top 3 at their position and you can’t really go wrong with either one.
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Deron Williams is very good
Chris Paul is great. Big difference. Deron Williams never won a game against the Lakers with a far superior cast to Chris Paul, while he took 2 games against them with awful support (no David West!).
I would love to have Deron, but as a point guard, CP3 is much better at improving his teammates, whereas Deron is a better scorer. What this team needs is playmaking, and Chris Paul is better at that.
I agree, I think in a black box
they are very very close. I wouldn’t be surprised if Deron would beat Paul 1-on-1, in fact his size and all around scoring would probably make him the favorite. I think paul has better intangibles, and definitely make those around him better.
Barea dominated the Lakers...
"I'm an All-Star in my mind. You don't have to have somebody tell you that, to be an All-Star. It doesn't work that way." -Sam Cassell
Remember Deron made the coach in Utah quit.
He’s not exactly a model citizen that we want to have influencing
Mr. Griffin. Maybe after 6 months here he will get Del Negro fired.
Well, he hates the Lakers, so I can’t say I think he’d be too much of a bad influence. I mean, if that mindset will be good enough for my children (I’m going to have “DIE Lakers” written on their bedroom ceiling) it’s good enough for my team.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Open to trade, but open to re-signing?
What young players do the Magic have to offer? Reddick? Picks?
If we can’t get CP, id rathert see him go to the Magic and super-team it there, denying the Lakers, Knicks, Nets. . .leading to a Dwill trade to LAC. .
But with Dwill. . .
we forget that there’s another powerful franchise that will have some sway with him. . .
His hometown Dallas Mavericks. Don’t think for a second Cuban isnt looking ahead to next summer.
But if a CP is offered to us for the RIGHT deal. . .
You HAVE to take it (and im of the mind that Gordon is off limits in such a deal). We cant count on Dwill signing with us as a free agent with guys like Cuban around. . .
Dallas's window of winning championships is about to close
Tyson Chandler is gone, Jason Kidd is declining, and Dirk will probably ease up a bit because he got his ring. Deron wants to go to the Clippers….. It makes perfect sense.
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
Tyson Chandler is gone?
Someone’s gonna give him the max? He already makes 12.5M. This is probably his last deal, he doesn’t play thirty minutes and I’m not sure he’s going anywhere despite what he says.
And the Mavs can afford him. They’re gonna let Butler and Barea go (they’ve got Beaubois on the bench) and eventually they’ll amnesty or stretch Brendan Haywood (but not this year).
Kidd, Terry, and Marion are getting older but Dirk’s the key and he’s better than he’s ever been. They have a great coach and they’ve been there.
Go write off the Lakers, they’re have way more miles, they have a new coach, and it’s more fun.
Just a little bit more until the Lakers fall off.
Then Blake will reign supreme!
Check out http://fullyclips.com/ - Really Great Clippers blog!
CP3+DH12= good for the NBA
Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin]getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -Steve Perrin
by Takebb909 on Dec 3, 2011 7:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
ive watched every youtube video of every clipper about 5 times each.
one wildly entertaining year has provided us at least some entertainment during the lockout, but damn i really need some new material.
The Statcube article above:
The last paragraph reads:
Halftime adjustments … or the lack thereof
If NBA games ended after 24 minutes instead of 48, the Clippers would have won at least 41 games last season. (They were tied at the half twice.) But they lost 16 of the 41 games they led at the half, because they were the worst second-half team in the league.
Over the course of the season, the Clippers got outscored by more than 10 points per 100 possessions in the third quarter and by almost seven points per 100 possessions in the fourth. The drop-off was on both ends of the floor, but the numbers clearly show that the Clippers’ defense got progressively worse as the game went on
…Sounds some like poor coaching. Hopefully we get sturdy vets that can help this team play above the coach, much like Sam Cassel did.
Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin]getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -Steve Perrin
i noticed this part too
We acknowledged this constantly during the season (the third and fourth quarter collapses). Part of it is VDN. Hes young as a coach, and you would hope that he would develop along with the players. Playing so many rookies and young players also contributes.
Above anything else, if our late game composure improves, so will our record.
We had the bad 3rd quarters with Dunleavy too, mind you.
Maybe it’s another curse in our long list of curses.
Fire Jasen Powell!
I dont think comparing the stats to dunleavy says much
…maybe only strengthen the case.
Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin]getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -Steve Perrin
ya. i havent made up my mind on vdn just yet.
he has things to learn. i am comforted by EJs late game heroics, and i think as blake becomes a better one on one offensive force for go-to points in late game situations, we will be able to close out games much better…..i hope
StatsCube: Clippers month-by-month efficiency
That was pretty easy,
Feb their efficiency stunk and EJ did not play in February.
Probably Not What AFA Wants to Here
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