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what i think of Caron as our starting 3… how good is he defensively?

by DocD on Dec 4, 2011 7:00 PM PST reply actions  

I loved it when he took the full page ad out to thank the WAS fans few years ago

Other than that, he actually plays defense and with passion. He doesn’t demand the ball much, feeds off of fast break and cleans up the boards well. I wish he would be in a Clippers uniform next year.

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by dan73962 on Dec 4, 2011 7:11 PM PST reply actions  

This is great news

Cant wait till Hollywood Neil gets him in to Clipper facility and gives Caron the rundown on why he should sign with the Clips. Just hope Neil brings his A game instead of settling for a DVD. At least get a Bluray Neil!

by big0lbad on Dec 4, 2011 7:18 PM PST reply actions  

Just bring BG - what else is needed?

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by Jax on Dec 4, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

a wagon full of cash?

by wilriv21 on Dec 4, 2011 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL the DVD

Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)

by mikey p on Dec 5, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

On second thought, the DVD worked great for Gomes and Foye

He should bring it along for backup, just in case.

Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)

by mikey p on Dec 5, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

i think caron's style of play fits well with the clips

but he is injury prone and we can’t afford another player like kaman or baron. There are better options that need to be pursued (iguodala, prince, battier, hill).

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by flightofthegriffin on Dec 4, 2011 7:49 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah if injries worry you then you'll want to stay far away from hill

also Battier has stated he isn’t interested in playing for the clips, that leaves only Prince and a trade for Iggy. I kind of prefer Prince but I definitely wouldn’t be too disappointed with Butler.

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by bestclipfan on Dec 5, 2011 1:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd prefer a SF acquired through trade, but if Free Agency is the choice I'd rather have Prince

Butler and Prince are pretty similar players production wise. Prince is the better 3 point shooter and defender, Butler is slightly better rebounder, much better free throw shooter, and has the better ability to create his own shot. To me it really comes down to health. Prince has been pretty healthy throughout his career and Butler is coming off major knee surgery. In the end I’m guessing the Clippers end up with Butler because he’ll be cheaper and sign a shorter contract. And given the other SF options that might not be the worst course of action

by Beasel on Dec 4, 2011 8:07 PM PST reply actions  

re. trade

I think the trade pieces should be held onto for the marquee FA (i.e., CP3 or D.Will).

by yaggiefresh on Dec 4, 2011 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Id be happy with either Butler or Prince

With Butler you have high risk, but high reward tough offensive guy. If he plays like he did on the Mavs before injury? Wow. But who knows, thats why he should be had for a shorter, cheaper deal.

Prince is a more dependable glue guy, better shooter/defender, but probably wont have 30 pt outbursts like Butler can if EJ is struggling. What kind of contract will he demand, compared to Caron?

by cassellmania on Dec 4, 2011 8:32 PM PST reply actions  

Here's Hollinger's take on Butler
CARON BUTLER, SG (FREE AGENT — UNRESTRICTED)
Projection: 18.4 pts, 5.6 reb, 2.3 ast per 40 min; 13.88 PER | Player card

• Volume scorer who likes to take line-drive, midrange jump shots.
• Good build and can score in traffic. Quick release. Doesn’t see floor.
• Good hands on defense but middling effort. Uninspired team defender.

I had felt Butler’s volume shooting style was a deterrent to Dallas offensively because it subtracted touches from more efficient players; that Dallas replaced him after his injury with three players (Peja Stojakovic, J.J. Barea and DeShawn Stevenson) who shot far less but with a greater true shooting percentage dovetailed nicely with my theory.

Nonetheless, Dallas played extremely well for the 28 full games Butler was around. He averaged a point every two minutes and showed, at the very least, that his scoring could be an effective weapon on the right team. The rest of his sheet was largely empty, however. Butler had an unusually high turnover rate for a jump shooter and rarely set up teammates (he was 60th among small forwards in assist rate). His main feat was shooting 45.3 percent on long 2s — a shot he took, on average, once every five minutes.

Butler’s defensive reputation is poor, but it appeared he tried harder in Dallas than he did in Washington. His stats in a limited sample of games last season were very strong — an opponent PER of 10.5, one of the highest ratings among small forwards by Synergy, and a 5.3 points per 100 possessions differential. Given his unimpressive results in Washington, that’s likely just a small-sample outlier, but we should keep an open mind if the same data crops up again this season. That will be more difficult, alas, as Butler tries to recover from a serious knee injury. As a jump shooter, his offense might not suffer too much, but it might be increasingly difficult for a 31-year-old with a bad wheel to defend the position.

Well, that’s not very encouraging. Besides his health, I suppose it depends on what kind of deal we can get. I like that we’re getting started early in our hunt for a starting SF, but Butler is no glue guy.

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by SilverClip on Dec 4, 2011 8:34 PM PST reply actions  

Between Foye and CButler, we could break the season record for long 2s attempted.

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by SilverClip on Dec 4, 2011 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Hollinger's breakdown makes sense to me

Prince is probably the better option but if its Butler 2 yrs 13Mil and Prince 4 yrs 28Mil I’d take Butler

by Beasel on Dec 4, 2011 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Id rather have Prince

Butler will take away touches from Griffin and EJ.

we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.

by ClipperBEAST on Dec 4, 2011 8:41 PM PST reply actions  

I'm with you, will rather take Prince.

Either way though, it’s great how all these vets are giving the Clips SERIOUS thought.

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by Newton Pham on Dec 4, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Chicago only has the MLE

If we offer him Beasel’s numbers, then I bet we can have him.

"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT

by SilverClip on Dec 4, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I am also hoping for a year two improvement with AFA

with the game slowing down for him (and Bledsoe).

"I gotta have more cowbell!"

by PV Mike on Dec 5, 2011 7:36 AM PST reply actions  

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