NBA Rumors: The Gilbert Letter
It's a crazy new world we live in. It's midnight in LA. It's after 3 AM on the East Coast, where people like David Stern live. You know, the people who actually have some inkling of what actually happened earlier tonight when the NBA disallowed the New Orleans Hornets trade of Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers. Yet here we are, glued to our computer monitors, arguing with each other over what it all means. We're not even sure what happened, and we want to know what it means!
There is precious little by way of an official reason thus far. NBA senior vice president of basketball communications Tim Frank simply said that the "League office declined to make the trade for basketball reasons." What does that even mean? We'll no doubt get a lot more on that from David Stern tomorrow.
There's a fundamental question here: did the NBA disallow this trade, or did the owners of the Hornets? Of course we know that those two things are one and the same at the present time, but in what capacity were they acted when they made this decision? Frank was far from explicit on that subject in his statement, but he is an NBA VP and he did say it was the league office that acted. Sure sounds like it was the NBA acting as the NBA that did this. Which seems like a huge problem.
The other information we have now is an email from Dan Gilbert to David Stern. Oh Dan Gilbert. When will you ever learn? Of course Yahoo! acquired a copy of the email and posted it. Let's have some fun with that, shall we?
Commissioner,
What? No "Dear Commissioner?" Why so serious, Dan?
It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.
Stop holding back. How do you really feel?
This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.
OK, now we're getting to an important issue. All of the 29 other franchises own the Hornets. They should all have some input on the decision. Well,then again, maybe they shouldn't, because that would be a terrible way to get anything done, but it's a least a legitimate position. Good start, you're on solid footing here.
Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.
Oops. Kind of went off the rails there, didn't ya Dan? Now you're stuck in the mud. Let me get this straight - this trade is bad for the league because the luxury tax cash cow is going to run dry? Wasn't the new punitive luxury tax contentiously instituted during the lockout designed as a means to encourage/coerce the big spenders of the NBA to stop spending so much? Isn't it a problem that the Lakers have such a massive payroll? That's what we were told, over and over and over again during the lockout. So now you're big complaint - they thing you lead with in your memo - is that this trade is bad because the Lakers' payroll will decrease. Really? REALLY?
One other small little problem here - the trade, not being finalized since, you know, trades aren't even allowed yet, may not have looked like that at all. The Lakers might very well have taken back Emeka Okafor in the deal, rendering this (feeble, lame, hypocritical) point about Lakers savings moot.
I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn't appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).
So you can't remember lopsided trades, eh Dan? How about Randy Foye for Brandon Roy? How about Dirk Nowitzki for Tractor Traylor? How about Marko Jaric for Sam Cassell and a lottery pick? Also, you hurt Pau Gasol's feelings when you referred to Chris Paul as "by far the best player in the trade." (It's not untrue - but still it's hurtful, you know?)
I'm not sure you want to muddy the waters here with a red herring about a second potential trade. Seems like you're getting into some serious meddling at this point. Are you acting as a 1/29th owner of the Hornets now? What say does a 1/29th owner of the Hornets have in a trade between the Lakers and the Magic?
I just don't see how we can allow this trade to happen.
I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?
And there you have it. What this rant is all about. The Lakers will be too good. Never mind that this was by FAR the best offer the Hornets had available based on reports. Never mind that this was, at the end, a pretty damn sweet deal for the Hornets, and that by disallowing it the league has almost certainly ensured that the Hornets will get far less value in return. Never mind that the end of the day, the Lakers were taking a calculated risk that this would even work - getting rid of two of the three bigs on their roster, two of the players that defined what was special about this team - THEY'RE SO DAMN LONG! Without Pau and Odom, the Lakers are fundamentally changed. Maybe they get better - but they were already really good, and maybe, just maybe, they get worse. You perceive that it will make the Lakers too good, Dan, so you think it must be stopped. But I'm not sure you're perception is correct.
Please advise....
Dan G.
We'll find out more tomorrow about why this trade was nixed. The league will no doubt put as much distance as possible between themselves and this silly missive. "Mr.Gilbert's email had absolutely no bearing on our decision." That sort of thing. And they'll try to explain themselves.
That should be fun.
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there were other lopsided trades
but your examples are with hindsight. I get the point.
Except the P.Gasol trade I suppose
That was lopsided from the start and only with the rise of Marc. even remotely justifiable…
Again... that's the point
Ask Memphis, who just on their first playoff series and are widely considered a young team on the rise, if they regret that trade. Teams have to have autonomy to make the deals they want to make. That trade looked ridiculous at the time, and it certainly helped the Lakers win two rings. But did it hurt Memphis? Isn’t that the goal of a trade? To help both teams? Neither Dan Gilbert nor David Stern has a good enough crystal ball to allow/disallow trades based on competitive balance. We have to assume Dell Demps was working in his own self-interest – and of course he was.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
In hindsight
the Garnett give-away was a lot more devastating to Minnesota than the Gasol trade was for Memphis. Marc Gasol has turned into a damn good player, and the Grizzlies went deeper into the playoffs than the Lakers last year.
Still, at the time, it was quite annoying. Schadenfreude, if I recall correctly.
Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)
About the Garnett trade
The Wolves recover the pick that was used to get Love if i recall correctly.
Nope
Picks they got turned into Jonny Flynn and Wayne Ellington – so nothing. Flynn was a number 6 pick, but in a bad draft. Could have had Steph Curry with it though.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Dec 9, 2011 11:55 PM PST up reply actions
If the Lakers got Okafor
then they would be pretty scary. The Lakers are going to end up like the Yankees luxury tax or not with the new TV deal they got. That said I don’t think this trade should be blocked UNLESS they plan on selling the team immediately and want to keep payroll as low as possible (Bye David West) to help the evaluation of the team.
Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.
WOW
The e-mail is actually real??? I thought i was too silly to believe. Man, Gilbert’s a douche…
He should have send an e-mail to the Rockets. Gutting your roster for an aging and would—be disgruntled Gasol (the wrong Gasol to invest in at this time). That’s just wrong…
NBA has turned into All My Children or General Hospital
Too much drama, let Chris play for the Lakers and have them lose their front court so Blake, DeAndre and EJ can dominate the inside. Lakers actually lose a lot on this one, IMO.
that would be nice
Especially if CP bolts after the season…
maybe that's it
This is a short termfix gap trade. He league knows that Paul is gonna leave the Lakers hi and dry so instead of allowing that possibility the stopped it all together. I’m not mad at Gilbert on this one…fuck the Lakers and no that’s not a fair trade. Its like Stern putting one foot in the water to see how hot it was. Big props to Gilbert for speaking up…fuck Chris Paul…
Definitely good noting on how it was a risk for the Lakers
I don’t like the trade, but I can understand it. Definitely a decent package for the Hornets, and the Lakers weren’t necessarily in the clear either. C.Paul still needs to get healthy and the Heats v. Mavericks series showed the importance of size. This trade would’ve depleted the Lakers of assured size. A.Bynum’s health is iffy, and he’s already out the first 5 games. Tack on the constant games in so many nights, I’m almost certain his health will be an issue. If that’s the case, there’s a fair chance the Lakers would be thin up front and a team (like the Clippers) would’ve been able to exploit that consistently.
Also
As Chris Carter of Silver Screen and Roll pointed out to me last night, the Lakers “big three” in that world would be 3 players with knee troubles. It was a calculated risk to be sure.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Not so.
The League allowed the Lakers to get Paul while still retaining their primary Dwight Howard trade bait. That adds to the travesty.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Dec 9, 2011 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
And can anyone explain why in the hell HOU wold give up Dragic, Martin, Scola, AND a pick for a 31 year old, declining, max-contracted Pau Gasol??
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Dec 9, 2011 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
That is Exactly What I was Thinking...
Why is everyone so enamored with Pau Gasol? And for the price tag? Not worth it. I’d rather have Kevin Martin and Scola. Then they give up a draft pick and Dragic, don’t get it.
When we win the NBA Championship, it will be that much sweeter!
by danobaseball on Dec 9, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
I could understand the league stepping in and stopping the first Pau Gasol trade to the Lakers, but this one makes no sense.
I thought New Orleans got a pretty good package.
I've got nothing.
They'd be this years Nuggets
And the Lakers would lose all of their size, making them extremely exploitable in the paint
by Ricekrispy10 on Dec 9, 2011 12:59 AM PST up reply actions
Did the Pau Gasol trade involve the trading of an assitant coach is that another Laker trade?
"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown
Yes
Aaron McKie.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
it is the best package if you consider a win now attitude
but honestly, NO needs to rebuild and neither Odom, Luis Scola, Kevin Martin nor Goran Dragic do that (2012 NYK pick from Houston isn’t that great either). It would all depend on flipping some of these players for young players and/or picks. Not sure they would get a lot of value for them, considering everyone will know they would want to ships them out.
by BelgianClipper on Dec 9, 2011 1:20 AM PST up reply actions
it really depends on the team
I could see the Bulls giving up some of that young talent they’ve got for K-Martin or Dragic because a solid scorer at the 2 and a back up who can actually play are in dire need there. Scola and LO are good enough to be traded for picks and more young talent for teams in need of it.
Me Too...
Anything to foil the Lakers is music to my ears!
When we win the NBA Championship, it will be that much sweeter!
by danobaseball on Dec 9, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Steve, I've never seen you like this before..
But I love it!
@cavsdan
Hey I think DTS is looking more and more like Prince Charming. NBA (not just Lakers’) fans and players are CRUSHING Stern and Gilbert. Can’t wait to read Berger’s piece – I hope the editor releases it “as is”.
Now would be the time for Olshey to step in and start seriously negotiating for CP3.
We got a once-in-a-lifetime do-over on all this CP3 stuff, and I’ll be pretty disappointed if the front office doesn’t take advantage of it… especially if Dwight ends up on the Nets with DWill, which basically kills our chances at Williams. Make a deal, Olshey!
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
Doubtful IMO
Whatever the Clippers offer, everyone will compare it to what the Lakers would’ve given. Inherently the disheartened parties will cry foul and say that the Clipper package is worse and that a deal still creates a “super team” anyways. The only way for the league/people involved to save themselves would be to have the Clippers offer a superior/epic package..but the Clippers won’t offer E.Gordon or B.Griffin..
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The only way I’d imagine a C.Paul deal getting approved is if the team is sold ASAP to allow all the paperwork to get done. An independent owner can do whatever he/she wants with C.Paul. After this fiasco the league is only adding fuel to a fire if they approve anything in the next few months…
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I reiterate my feeling that the Clippers should pursue the cheaper option of Steve Nash
:D
And...the lines I wanted to use as separation for my thoughts auto-struck out that statement..
How annoying..
we can still read it
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Nash - great player
but is he going to want to waste the last few years of his career trying to teach a very talented bunch how to win? Surely he’s gonna want to challenge for a ring, which is what he deservers (ala Kidd).
Bingo! Oh me oh my!
What other team can give him that right now?
Not the Suns for sure. Why not try with the Clips?
by RockyMountain on Dec 9, 2011 7:22 AM PST up reply actions
To me the underlying subtext
Is that the NBA has yet to fix the big market / small market problem. Gilbert is losing money. Revenue sharing is insufficient. They got the players to fund some of it but nowhere near enough. The Lakers have huge revenues that few teams can compete with.
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
The players funded every team
That just meant higher profits for the profitable teams, fewer losses for the others. Revenue sharing was the owner’s business, and it’s becoming clearer that they screwed it up.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Dan Gilbert worried about small market teams or luxury taxes?
Isn’t this the same guy billionaire that participated in destroying the economy with sub-prime loans?
"I gotta have more cowbell!"
The league should say that it just "postponed" the deal to give it more thought
They could say they needed time to gather an official tally among NOH owners. That would help them to save face.
If after a day or two, the owners still vote to nix the trade, then fine, go ahead and dig your own graves. But it’s hard to imagine them doing so, giving the counter-arguments and all the upset it’s causing.
…did the NBA disallow this trade, or did the owners of the Hornets?
Just to say it one more time, it had better be the owners of the Hornets. But then the league needs to explain how this decision is in the Hornets best interest. I don’t see how that can be done.
"i know huh........freakin clippers man.....its like a wild ride rooting for this team....gotta love em....(sometimes) lol" In GrIfFin We TrUsT
Dan Gilbert makes me sick
I think he should have his team taken away. Wh0 will want to play for him, he’s just icky. Puts his team at a TRUE disadvantage to complete just as much as he says the Lakers have an unfair advantage. Grow a pair, realize you bought the flipping Cavs and try to win j-a**.
yeah, give up Hickson and Irving to DTS
a far superior owner!
"I'm an All-Star in my mind. You don't have to have somebody tell you that, to be an All-Star. It doesn't work that way." -Sam Cassell
Good Bye DJ? - Say It Ain't So
According to Marc Spears from Yahoo! Sports:
The Golden State Warriors plan to present Los Angeles Clippers restricted free-agent center DeAndre Jordan with an offer on Friday, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
The Warriors had hoped to sign Dallas Mavericks free-agent center Tyson Chandler, but he is nearing a four-year, $58 million agreement with the New York Knicks. While the Warriors’ offer sheet wasn’t finalized, one source said the team is prepared to begin Jordan’s contract at $10 million next season.
Which is better?
GSW = 4yrs $40M.
LAC = 5 yrs $40M.
Extra year of guarantee is good, but $2M extra is very good.
Does he see a better future with LAC or GSW … s/b a factor.
Did DTS Offer DJ $10 Million?
Link please.
I doubt DTS will go that high. I love DJ’s game but $10 million a year to begin with for DJ is IMO over paying
Where Is The LInk?
We all can divide.
Did DTS make an offer to DJ or is Clipperland going into denial?
Buddahfan
You asked if DTS offered $10M. The answer is no, not yet. PV Mike pointed out that your question did not follow what had been written, which was that the Clippers had offered 5/$40M. Then you say snidely we can all divide, which, based on your original question, was seriously in doubt in your case.
Here is the 5/$40M link.
Pay attention and stop being a jerk.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
GS Offer According To The Souce Will Begin At $10 Million in Year #1
The question is not whether DTS can match.
The question is will he?
I have serious reservations that he will, unless Blake goes into his office and says.
You match or I am demanding a trade.
If it starts at $10M, most it can be a 4 yr/$43M deal
based on max raises, etc. I wrote a little script to help me keep up (not perfect, but pretty close):
year 1 is 10051425.90
year 2 is 10503740.07
year 3 is 10976408.37
year 4 is 11470346.74
raises are 4.5%
cumulative is 43001921.08
I’m unclear how matching works (is it just first year salary? is it the whole deal, including raise increments and length? Or can the clips add the “Bird” 5th year?)
whole deal
If DJ signs the offer sheet, the Clippers only option is to match the whole thing.
If DJ and his agent come back to the Clippers before signing the offer sheet and say “Here’s what they’re going to offer” then the Clippers can make an alternate offer with the 5th year.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
If you guys are complaining and calling Caron @ 8 mill expensive
then you ahve to consider DJ at 10 mil extremely expensive. Although he’s a little older and coming off an injury, he’s already proved himself in the league. DJ had a big step up last year, but he has yet to prove reliable to me.
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
10m a year for DJ is a little nuts, but doable.
I say match it. Look at the Knicks giving Ty Chandler LeBron money. At least DJ is 7 years younger, no history of injury, and Blake’s bestie.
Match it.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Dec 9, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions
the ? is will DJ sign it?
I think him a Blake being bffffffff’s will have something to do with it…
match it DTS!
There is no big man in the market for under $10M.
No, it's the Clip Show!
i love it
that the fakers got a kick in the teeth…and personally i hope odom and gasol are in deep depression…i love it when the fakes dont get their way….they were handed gasol for kwame brown by jerry west…errrrrr, the gm of the grizzs….years ago the got wilt for archie clark, jerry chambers and who knows who…the got kareem for brian winters, and some other fairly good players but none in the kareem category….this was all about re-loading the fakers at the expense of the other teams…lop off $40 million…get rid of long term contracts that will cripple them shortly and get the best player in the bunch….im personally happy…in fact im ecstatic….its clipper time and the fakers are the “has beens”
As much as I dislike the Lakers too
This trade made them more likely vulnerable than “strengthened”. C.Paul’s health + sped up season = epic risk…unleash a fast/athletic guard like E.Bledsoe and just tell him to keep pushing the tempo
I honestly would prefer to see this trade than see C.Paul just walk and join the NY Knickerbockers next year
This times infinity.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Dec 9, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
Gilbert's letter is egregious
but man, Steve Perrin stooped even lower in class with his analysis. If I am one of the owners, I get what Gilbert is saying and I am sure most of the other owners would feel that way, too.
No, it's the Clip Show!
At the end of the day, we're all fans.
Sometimes fans are allowed to be a bit snarky.
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
Call me Steve
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Here's an example of classless writing...
Chris Broussard -
In light of the league’s refusal to allow Chris Paul to dictate a trade to the Los Angeles Lakers, one has to wonder if it will sit idly by and let Howard facilitate a move to the Nets.
He knows damn well that the owners can’t do jack about the D12 to Nets trade, but he adds this in there to spread misinformation. He’s fanning the fire, knowing that most of the less informed fans out there are just assuming that the NBA used its hammer to block the trade.
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
Horrible PR job by the NBA
Understandably, DG is still butt hurt from Lebron leaving for nothing, but I do believe the trade is fair. It’s like losing EJ and Jordan for us, although obviously, both Gasol and Lamar are way older. The point is, the Lakers lose their top 2 and 3 (Gasol 1b?) players which was more than we were willing to give up.
"I'm an All-Star in my mind. You don't have to have somebody tell you that, to be an All-Star. It doesn't work that way." -Sam Cassell
Um, Steve...
Can you really use Roy for Foye and Dirk for Traylor as examples of lopsided trades? Both happened on Draft Night and both players were exactly equal: untested rookies.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Dec 9, 2011 9:04 AM PST reply actions
point is
Most of the time you don’t know what the lopsided trades are. Gilbert didn’t know this one was lopsided.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Of course this is lopsided.
For the life of my I can’t figure out why HOU did what they did, but the Lakers getting CP3 while very obviously being left with the means to get Dwight was/is ridiculous. Even more so that the League had/has a direct hand in facilitating the seemingly impossible Dwight, Paul, Kobe super team.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Dec 9, 2011 9:19 AM PST up reply actions
For HOU, it's not lopsided, it's just bad
"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
by Jax on Dec 9, 2011 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
Of course.
It’s inexplicable for them. Bizarrely so.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Dec 9, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
I agree, and I feel like the reason Houston didn’t get roasted by the snarky Twittering NBA writers is that Morey has that reputation of being the progressive genius, therefore he isn’t challenged for moves he makes. Everyone just assumes he’s a genius and knows what he’s doing.
by Michael White on Dec 9, 2011 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
But that wasn't actually what he said
I agreed with most of your analysis of his letter, but that part felt unfair to me. What he said was:
I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process.Then you paraphrased it as saying he had never seen a lopsided trade, and proceeded to use examples of trades that turned out lopsided in hindsight. None of the examples you mentioned included clearly the best player in the trade AND a savings of $40 million.
Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Also:
Have to seriously believe the ill will following the Pau Gasol trade in 2008 played a factor.
I know this trade is more balanced than Kwame Brown for Pau, but it was certainly not only the Owners who were irate over what looked like the League helping the Lakers yet AGAIN.
I also believe that because the trade basically left the Bynum for Dwight move all but written on the wall that something had to be done. I don’t think this happens if Paul is traded to us or the Warriors.
Having said that, I hope the trade DOES go through, but only after Dwight gets his way and is traded to the Nets. LAL’s front court, the real reason they won their recent titles, will be absolutely devastated. Not to mention the fact their future cornerstones, Paul and Bynum, will be riding gimpy knees for years to come.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Dec 9, 2011 9:09 AM PST reply actions
I'm sorry...
But why does ORL do Dwight Howard for Andrew Bynum straight up? Answer is, they don’t. And the Lakers have nothing of value – nothing – left.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
You don't see that happening?
I hear the excuses now. Bynum is a franchise cornerstone. The Magic would be able to keep their Center-centric (there’s a word) offensive and defensive systems. Yadda, yadda, yadda.
This has to be a reason the Owners got even more pissy. We all could see Dwight on the way to LA.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Dec 9, 2011 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
My guess is that the Lakers pursued Howard first
and either ORL wasn’t interested in Bynum/Odom, or Howard wasn’t interested in the Lakers.
Or perhaps ORL wanted Bynum/Gasol, in which case the Lakers said “no thanks”.
Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)
ORL has a much better deal on the table from NJ
Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)
For the same reason all of these trades eventually get done. Better to get Bynum for Howard than nothing (assuming Howard continued to be obstinate and refused to be sign an extension anywhere but LAL)
by Michael White on Dec 9, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
Exactly.
"Buckle your seat belts, folks. This one's going down to the wire." -The inimitable Ralph Lawler.
by Gordon for President on Dec 9, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
As always Steve...
..Brilliant stuff.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
on a different note
Shouts out to Brandon Roy he’s about to retire. At least he got rookie of the year and the respect of his peers…hope to see him on TNT and NBATV…

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