Which vets should our rookies emulate?
Blake- Stoudemire
In some ways, Griffin already is Stoudemire's equal and even better in some areas. But Stoudemire is far superior to almost any other bucket-getting big in the world at making perimeter shots.
Griffin is not close to being even average as a shooter beyond 16 feet. How tough would it be to defend Griffin if he were able to make more than 42 percent of his jumpers? (He makes 33 percent now.) Stoudemire has a smooth and consistent shot, and Griffin would do well to emulate those mechanics as closely as he can.
Stoudemire also is one of the best bucket-getters inside. Although Griffin is good in this area, his ceiling is much higher still. He would be wise to watch how Amare uses more fakes, uses better form on his fades, uses more creative "throws" over bigger defenders, and gets lower so he can nimbly dart through traffic and end up at the rim, especially following high screen and rolls.
Aminu- Deng
Watching Aminu is often like watching a talented AAU player in an important tournament. He clearly cares, but not as much as some of the other guys on the court do. The same can be said about his overall work ethic -- it might be solid but it's not where it could be.
Deng was a consummate pro from Day 1 in the NBA. Deadly serious about his craft, he has found a variety of ways to impact the game every season. He's been his team's best scorer in some years, he's been his team's best defender in others, and he's allowed his game to change based on what the coach needed. For example, this season he'll make more 3s than he did in any of his previous six seasons, despite being able to make that shot for the past two years.
Aminu has a higher ceiling than Deng, thanks to terrific rebounding talent and a better deep perimeter shot at a younger age. To reach that ceiling, though, he'll have to up his effort in and out of season, while playing each NBA game as if it will be his last. Bulls teammates have always singled out Deng for his commitment to the team. What will Clippers players say about Aminu in a few years? "Be like Luol" would be a good mission for him.
Bledsoe- Rondo
Rondo might not be a shooter, but he's a maestro on offense, orchestrating his team's offense with his strong personality and high basketball IQ. Almost half of his possessions end in an assist, and that's phenomenal. He's the best shot-creator for teammates in the game today. He's also second in the NBA in steals per game, utilizing his length and quickness to put the hurt on opposing guards.
Bledsoe has a lot of physical similarities to Rondo. While he's built more powerfully than Rondo, he is exceptionally quick and about as fast as any player in the league. He also has a better mind for the game than experts first thought, improving drastically since we saw him in summer league.
Like Rondo, Bledsoe was not a lottery pick but has the talent to be a huge impact guy on both ends of the floor. Looking back, Rondo (drafted No. 21 in 2006) should have been a top-five pick. In a few years, we might be able to say similar things about Bledsoe (drafted 18th) ... if he follows in Rondo's footsteps.
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I like the Aminu and Bledsoe comparisons
But comparing Blake to Amare is kind of an insult to Blake
Haha. I like that.
I would say Bledsoe should emulate Restbwook.
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by Gordon for President on Mar 22, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really
Amare’s a much more complete offensive player. I’d say Blake would be best served emulating Karl Malone. He’s never going to be much of a shot blocker but he could use his quick hands and athleticism combined with good defensive positioning to be a good team defender.
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by ClipperChuck on Mar 22, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
He occasionally gets those crazy blocks
I remember that sweet one on Gasol in the closing moments of first game we lost to the Lakers.
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Blake=No One (He's on another level)
I would love if Aminu could become like Deng because that’s exactly what this team needs from a SF. A guy that can defend, shoot, and pass. And I do agree with you that his potential is much higher than that. It will come down to his attitude and work ethic. However, if he does live up to his potential, I can see him more like Odom. A do-it-all type of guy with size and length. Not as good of a ball-handler, but potentially a better shooter.
I can see Rondo, Westbrook, and Tony Parker in Bledsoe. He has skills of all those guys and I do believe he will reach level as a All-Star caliber pg. He has the skills, heart, and work ethic.
"The perception here in Los Angeles has always been that the Lakers find a way to win games and the Clippers find a way to lose…I recognize it, but I'm not going to accept it," Griffin said. "I'm not going to say, 'Oh, that's fine."
by TheEricGordonShow on Mar 22, 2011 6:17 PM PDT reply actions
Not an insult to compare Blake to Amare
Amare’s offensive game is amazing, all pointed out above. Blake doesn’t have enough length to shoot over people as easily as Amare can. Blake’s inside game is improving a lot, recently I’ve been seeing more fakes, step throughs, up and unders, etc.
Defensively, Blake needs a lot of work. He gets pushed out too often for some one as strong as him, and he seems not to know how to play D without fouling or trying really hard not to foul (often just backing off and putting his hands straight in the air).
But Blake and Amare are different players. I’ve said before that is Blake can get the jumper down, and what he’s shown of his passing/dribbling, he could be more like a Chris Webber or KG.
Saying Aminu's ceiling is much higher than Deng's is a little backwards considering their age difference
Did you know that Luol Deng was the best basletball plaeyer in the entire country graduating from high school? What does that say for for potential? Did Deng meet or exceed expectations?
BTW, know who was number two that year…from the same high school; Charlie Villanueva…
So was Aminu’s potential higher than Deng’s? Aminu’s wasn’t but he could be more of an impact than Deng is now.
Blake Griffin would be best to emulate Karl Malone…Charles Barkley….and Shaun Kemp(just on the court). Malone for scoring and rebounding ,,,and passing…and steals. Barkley for dribbling and range…Kemp for athletical intimidation, blocking and showmanship…
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by Takebb909 on Mar 22, 2011 9:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Just because you're the best high school player in your country doesn't mean you have more potential.
It just means that you mastered the game at that level. Tyler Hansbrough was the National College Player of the Year, yet he ended up being drafted 13th.
Deng definitely came into the league a more polished player than Aminu is right now, but potential means what they can end up becoming, and Aminu can end up becoming a better player than Deng. That doesn’t mean he is right now or he will ever be, only time will tell.
"The perception here in Los Angeles has always been that the Lakers find a way to win games and the Clippers find a way to lose…I recognize it, but I'm not going to accept it," Griffin said. "I'm not going to say, 'Oh, that's fine."
by TheEricGordonShow on Mar 23, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
We are set for the future!
If we resign DJ and Gordon,(which i’m really sure will happen) the Clipps have something brewing here. Plus, we play in Los Angeles, which im sure will attract some free agents to come play with the phenom(Move over LBJ!!)
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hard to predict the landscape
it could be even harder to sign FAs after this next CBA. With a possible lower cap (or even a hard cap) the Clippers blew their best opportunity last off-season to land a big impact free agent.
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by ClipperChuck on Mar 22, 2011 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
" the Clippers blew their best opportunity last off-season to land a big impact free agent..."
The Clippers fate was already before Olshey’s flight even touched own near LBJ headquarters, with our owner and his sterling reputation.
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by Takebb909 on Mar 22, 2011 9:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Have to believe if Blake played like this last year, our chance would have been exponentially greater.
Sigh.
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by Gordon for President on Mar 23, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
"the Clippers blew their best opportunity last off-season to land a big impact free agent."
Really? They blew the 2012 free-agency period in the summer of 2010? That’s the stretch of the century.
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Last year was considered the strongest class of free agency ever, and the Clippers had $17M in cap space
That’s not a stretch. Who knows what sort of cap space the Clippers have in 2012. I’m hoping for none after signing DJ, EJ, Kirilenko, and other minor signings.
Exactly right
Who knows when the Clips will ever have max cap space (and multiple draft picks) again. With the extensions of EJ, BG, DJ and even vets like Mo and Kaman in the near future the Clips could be committed to a lot of long term deals.
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by ClipperChuck on Mar 23, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
We've been through this a lot, but still...
The 2010 FA was the strongest ever because of the 3 max guys. Once they were gone, the FA was much more ordinary. At that point, too, our max space was not particularly useful; we might as well have had half of that amount. I think we should be mostly upset about trading Camby in the first place.
This summer, we won’t have max space, but we don’t NEED max space. Who would we use it on? If a good fit is available and is interested, we should have enough space to make it happen. I believe timing is the main issue, not $.
If we want to shoot for a max guy in 2012, we may be able to make that happen too, but I wouldn’t vote for that approach. If the FO claims it’s holding out for one more year, will you bite your tongue? Hell, I don’t no if I’ll be able to.
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Dj = dwight
I feel like djs skill set is very similar to dwights. Before this season, dwight was a the best defensive player in the league but lacked an offensive skill set. Over the offseason he developed a short jump shot and impressive post moves and now is the unheralded best center in the league. I think Dj has the talent to pull this off too.
by NoBandwagoners on Mar 22, 2011 10:49 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
DJ – Hakeem Olajuwan
Blake Griffin – Karl Malone
Aminu – Scottie Pippen
Eric Gordon – Michael Jordan
Eric Bledsoe – Magic Johnson
Willie Warren – Willie Nelson
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i agree with the bledsoe-westbrook comparisons
just because they seem more like natural scorers and superior athletes. Bled does lack some height, but can make up for some of that with his leaping ability. I don’t know why, but I actually see his game developing more like a tony parker, but hopefully with a better outside shot. For all time greats, I think he should try to emulate Kevin Johnson.
Aminu, I’m having a tougher time with. Sorry to all you laker haters, but I think the best guy I can think of for Aminu to emulate is Big Game James Worthy.
Big James and Magic
Are ok with this Clipper fan…and probably most others.
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by Takebb909 on Mar 23, 2011 8:34 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think many Clippers fans have problems with the Showtime Lakers
or the Jerry West Lakers….
it’s mainly the with the LA Lakers Kobes
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good to know
haha, now if we can just get our magic johnson, maybe we can get aminu really into being big game james. What’s Shaun Livingston doing this summer ;)
I don't care what player Aminu emulates
just immediately stop emulating the Scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz.
Bledsoe and either Rondo or Westbrook is good
Westbrook’s score and Rondo’s court vision/passing and defense
that would be ideal
what about Aminu-Josh Smith with a 3 point shot?
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Bledsoe
I also think that Westbrook is a better comparison. RW is a good defender, and Bled has that in him as well. RW is a little bigger, but both are stronger and more athletic than the avg PG. Rondo stays low to the ground and will probably have a super long career because of it.
The only reason why I think the authors comparison is a bit off is because Bledsoe may never have nearly the court vision rondo has….but Bledsoe is ALREADY a better shooter than rondo will ever be.
by indy818 on Mar 23, 2011 1:38 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Not so that Bledsoe is already a better shooter
I would qualify your statement some. If you look at just foul shooting percentages, no question that Bledsoe is far superior to Rondo. However, they are quite similar in jump shooting. This year both are at 39% from 16 to 23 feet. Neither is any good at 3 point shooting with Bledsoe at an eFG% of 41% and Rondo at 45%. Let’s hope Bledsoe improves his shooting from the field as much as Rondo has since joining the league. And, that Bledsoe learns to make more 3s or takes fewer shots.
Let's compare them to other current NBA players
I think it’s too hard to compare current players to stars who retired years ago. So, I think it makes sense to compare BG to Amare, not Karl Malone. Personally, I’d like to see BG emulate Tim Duncan by becoming a more complete player. Duncan’s D, boarding, ability to screen, do the pick and roll and hit the 15 to 18 foot J are things which BG can strive for. Of course, Duncan is not close to the player he was just a few years ago. But, he will still be the key to SA’s success in the playoffs.
now if VDN
can just emulate Pop, we might be on to something.
Griffin-Amare
Aminu-Odom
Bledsoe-Westbrook/Lowry
Jordan-Noah
Warren-J.R Smith
Gordon-Wade/ prime Caron Butler
I like the Lowry comparison for The 'Soe.
And I think Aminu can, at least defensively, have much of the same impact as Odom does for the Lakers.
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Blake Griffin-Adrian Griffin
Al-Farouq Aminu-Alade Aminu
Eric Gordon-Ben Gordon
DeAndre Jordan-Michael Jordan
Willie Warren-Cash Warren
Eric Bledsoe-Drew Bledsoe
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