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Clips Nation Exit Interviews 2011 - Willie Warren

We're running a series of "exit interviews" of the 2011 Los Angeles Clippers. An overview and analysis, player by player, of all 14 Clippers who finished the 2010-2011 season on the roster. In this edition: little used rookie guard Willie Warren.

Name: Willie Warren

2010-2011 Key Stats: 1.9 ppg, 1.4 apg, 7.1 mpg

Age: 21

Years in the NBA: 1

Years with the Clippers: 1

2010-2011 Salary: $500,000

Contract Status: Signed through 2013 to an unguaranteed contract.

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In a Nutshell

No Clipper played fewer NBA minutes in 2010-2011 than Willie Warren. A late second round pick, 54th overall, not much was expected of him, and that's more or less what happened. He did have the distinction of being the first Clipper ever assigned to the D-League (former Coach and GM Mike Dunleavy Sr. seemed to believe that players would benefit more by being in his practices than by playing in actual games) where he showed he could score at that level. But can he play at the NBA level? We don't know much about that.

We just don't have a lot of data points here. Warren was a hot commodity after his freshman season at Oklahoma (a season during which, not merely coincidentally, he had a guy named Blake Griffin commanding double and triple teams in the post), and was projected as a possible lottery pick at that time. But a poor sophomore season saw his stock drop to the point where he very nearly went undrafted. He was a decent gamble for the Clippers so late in the draft - an Oklahoma kid and friend of Griffin's, there was at least a chance that he'd regain some of his freshman swagger back by Blake's side - but the simple fact is that most picks in the 50s don't make it in the NBA. Of the 55 players drafted at position 50 or later in the last five drafts, Ramon Sessions is by far the most accomplished. After Sessions, you're down to guys like A.J. Price and Patty Mills - and 37 out of 44 from prior to this year's draft are now out of the league.

Strengths

As I said, we don't have a lot of data points. He does not have great athleticism, and he's a little undersized for an NBA two guard (he's listed at 6'4", but measured 6'2.5" without shoes at the pre-draft camp). But he doesn't really have great point guard skills either. So it's far from clear that he has a position in the NBA.

Still, if he can shoot, he could make a spot for himself. Warren made 37% of his threes as a college freshman - but then made only 31% the next season. He made 5 of 15 in his limited NBA minutes - but then made 40%, 28 of 70, in the D-League shooting from the same distance as in the NBA. If he can do that, he's got a chance to help the Clippers.

Although his NBA minutes were severely limited, he did put up a respectable assist-to-turnover ratio in those minutes - 27 assists versus just 8 turnovers, over 3 to 1. That's a really tiny sample size, but as bad as the other Clipper rookies were about turning the ball over, Willie's relative sure-handedness was a welcome contrast. For instance, Eric Bledsoe turned the ball over 3.8 times per 36 minutes - Warren was at 2.1 per 36. It's not much, but it's pretty much all we've got as far as NBA stats.

For what they're worth, Warren did put up impressive D-League numbers: 19.2 points, 5.7 assists and 4 rebounds in 27 minutes per game in his 15 appearances with the Bakersfield Jam. He ran the point some, and then played shooting guard as well, and he was productive in both roles. He had 10 assists twice, and scored 20 or more in eight games, including a 34 point night. He also showed a very nice knack for getting to the line, which he did an average of 7 times per game. With his 40% three point shooting and his frequent trips to the line, his D-League True Shooting percentage is a bit above 60%. That's good. His D-League per game averages compare favorably on a per minute basis (points are basically identical, Warren averaged more rebounds and more assists) with his Bakersfield teammate, Trey Johnson, who was a legitimate D-League MVP candidate and who's currently playing for the Lakers in the playoffs. In other words, Warren's D-League production would be enough to get the attention of GMs who need a D-League call up if he wasn't already property of the Clippers. So he's right there on the bubble between the D-League and the big time.

Weaknesses

Warren's biggest issue may be that he's simply not an NBA talent. He doesn't have the elite athleticism. He's not big enough to be a shooting guard. He's not skilled enough to be a point guard. He looks a lot like a guy who could be a great college player, or even a terrific D-League (or EuroLeague) player, but can't do the things that will get him NBA minutes.

Consider that the Clippers roster for much of the season featured these five other guards:

Coach Vinny Del Negro had the opportunity and the incentive to play Willie Warren this season - but he barely did. It's a bit of a cyclic argument, but if Warren couldn't earn any minutes this season, it doesn't bode well for his future with the team. Twelve of Warren's 19 NBA appearances occurred in November, when Davis was out the whole month and Foye was also injured. Whatever Warren did in those dozen games, not to mention countless practices, wasn't giving VDN the confidence to put him back out there the rest of the season. Al-Farouq Aminu got minutes at shooting guard down the stretch ahead of Warren.

Future with the Clippers

Although it was in response to a question about an ill-advised Tweet on his Twitter account after being sent down to the D-League a second time (since deleted, it spoke to his frustration and implied that he was ready to quit basketball), VDN may have tipped his hand about Warren when he said "He's a kid. He's got a long way to go." It's not at all clear he can get there.

Which makes Warren's future with the Clippers cloudy at best. While he's signed for two more seasons, his contract is completely unguaranteed meaning that the Clippers can waive him and use his roster spot on someone else without any financial penalty. Nine Clippers have guaranteed money lined up for next season (including Brian Cook, who's certain to exercise his player option); assuming they re-sign DeAndre Jordan, that's a tenth contract. Four of those ten are guards ahead of Warren on the depth chart. They'll have at least one and at most two more guards on the roster when (if?) the season starts - and they'd love to have at least one who's a legit 6'5", since none of their top four guards are particularly tall. Warren's contract calls for him to make the minimum, so he's not expensive - but if think they can do better at that price, or even at a slightly higher price, they won't hesitate. Especially if they can find a wing with more size.

It's very unusual for an NBA team to turn over as few as four roster spots - even more so for a lottery team. The Clippers are in a unique situation, with such a young roster that they'd very much like to keep together. But if they can keep the true core together, and also bring in more talent, they'll do it. Is it an advantage for Warren that he's pals with Griffin? Well, it couldn't hurt. Is it an advantage for Warren that he's the same age as Griffin, Gordon, Jordan, Bledsoe and Aminu - probably not, because the team would no doubt also appreciate some veteran types, some guys who've been there and can be solid influences in the locker room. So it's my guess that Willie Warren will not be with the Clippers next season.

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Really too hard to get an objective read on Willie's potential

but it is obvious how Blake impacted his college stats while there together. My guess is he is not a Clipper next year.

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by PV Mike on Apr 26, 2011 7:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Is Warren REALLY “buddies” or is everyone just implying so.

Willie would be best suited to maximize his opportunities to play in a solid squad in the euroleague and become a star like Trajon Langdon or Tyus Edney. He has a great game for it.

If he’s scared of being in Europe, in general, then he is destined as “14th man”, a fringe player.

Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin]getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -Steve Perrin

by Takebb909 on Apr 26, 2011 8:08 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I think Blake personally vouched for Warren when we drafted him

I think he said something along the lines of I will make sure he plays like he did his freshman year.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown

by bestclipfan on Apr 26, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tough to get too worked up over who the 5th guard is going to be

If the 5th guard is going to be a 2nd Round pick / DLeague type, then Warren is at least familiar and did show some promise in the DLeague last season. The guards projected to be available in the 2nd round of this weak draft don’t look like upgrades. And I don’t see the point in spending more money to upgrade the bottom of the depth chart when there are greater needs.

So from that perspective, keeping Warren around another season seems to make sense. But I don’t expect WW to ever be more than a fringe player struggling to stay in the NBA so it’s no big deal if he’s replaced either.

by ClipCat on Apr 26, 2011 9:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Should this just be titled as

Willis Warren Exit?

Blake Griffin is coming, hide your MBengas

by bacek on Apr 26, 2011 9:47 AM PDT reply actions  

With the few minutes I saw of WW, I liked his sure handedness. I mean you look at Bledsoe who yes is very athletic, but the guy cannot pass the ball (poor court vision, low BBIQ) and coughs up the ball constantly. WW doesn’t bring anything particularly special or spectacular, but when he was in the game he was in control. He hit his shots. He didn’t hurt the team or really improve the team. He should have gotten more burn. If he’s not with the team next season, he will be picked up by someone else. I think he’s someone that should stick around unless we find something much better. He could be a serviceable 2nd or 3rd string PG.

by tenkaistar on Apr 26, 2011 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

you guys are being too harsh on the kid

was Jeff Mcinnis a world class athlete? Gary Grant? Andre Miller? Doc Rivers?
Need to free Willy more often

by big0lbad on Apr 26, 2011 11:51 AM PDT reply actions  

+1

if he hits his potential, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s better than foye. Needs time to develop.

by KeithClossrules on Apr 26, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff McInnis the most pover-rated guard to ever play in the NBA

It just amazed me that someone who couldn’t dribble with their left hand made millions of dollars out of this game.

There’s hope for me yet !!

by Natedog1977 on Apr 26, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

probably becuase the guy had a sure midrange shot and dribbled enough not to lose the ball

Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin]getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -Steve Perrin

by Takebb909 on Apr 26, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Willie isn't a terrible athlete

he had some pretty impressive dunks in college.

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by losbolts on Apr 26, 2011 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

He'll be on the team until the end of summer league

he’ll make it as far as Mike Taylor. Actually he should at least make it to pre-season unless the team gives him no shot of making the team and do the nice thing so he can try to catch on with another club.

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Apr 26, 2011 4:15 PM PDT reply actions  

No more youngins please

Back to my old refrain, young players dont know how to win like good old grizzled vets unless their talent is unquestionably there. If we haven’t seen it by now, the kid probably doesn’t have it. He will go the way of lionel chalmers, mike taylor, guillermo diaz and doron sheffer… At least he got paid a cool half a mi in the process. Give me earl watson over some kid any day of the week.

"Good young core" doesn't win ballgames. Give me a young superstar and a veteran supporting cast.

by cueball123 on Apr 26, 2011 11:10 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Maybe not

But anthony carter types will.

"Good young core" doesn't win ballgames. Give me a young superstar and a veteran supporting cast.

by cueball123 on Apr 27, 2011 7:02 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I like Willie, but...

does he have the mental fortitude to make it in the league? I mentioned Aminu needing to become more confident in himself and his game, but the mental issue with Willie are a bit more serious than that. The twitter comment was an eye opener to anyone that read it and Willie knew that when he tweeted it. That’s why he deleted it so quickly. He talked as though he was not cut out for this league and didn’t want to grow up so quickly. I don’t know if he truly felt like that or if it was just pent up frustration finally boiling over.

He had seen his stock go from late-lottery/mid-first to 6 picks away from not being drafted after having a dismal sophomore campaign. Then he comes to the NBA and is either glue to the bench or shuttled down to Bakersfield. Everyone else around him was playing some minutes or at least were still with the team. Maybe his emotions caught with him and got the best of him. I don’t know.

I did watch a few his games during his first stint with the jam where he played pretty well. He struggled more in his second tenure with them. I do believe that he has the potential to deserve a roster spot in the league. Unfortunately for him, we’re a team that has a ton of youngsters that we’re trying to groom and mold into legitimate players. We have more financially invested each of those players as well. We couldn’t even give him garbage minutes, because we couldn’t keep our leads. I want to see him have another shot with this team next season, but it’s going to be all about how he carries himself and prepares for next season. If he comes into camp with the “woe-is-me” attitude, then he may not make the final roster. If he is willing to fight then perhaps he’ll get another shot and perhaps an opportunity for him to log some minutes will present itself sometime during the season.

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by Lawler 4ever on Apr 27, 2011 12:28 AM PDT reply actions  

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