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Los Angeles Clippers 82 - Memphis Grizzlies 81 - Another Bizarre Night in Memphis

The Clippers had no business winning this game. Then again, neither did Memphis. After watching the game, I'm actually a little surprised to see in the box score that the shooting wasn't as bad as I thought. Make no mistake - percentages of 41% for the Clippers and 39.5% for the Grizzlies are not good, but it felt worse than that while the game was going on.

In trying to frame the Clippers' come from behind victory, I'm having difficulty getting past the numerous terrible errors they committed in the game. (Kaman's decision to pass out of the post into Tony Allen's waiting arms, while he still had his dribble available, with plenty of time on the clock, and without even attacking the basket at all despite solid post position, was particularly maddening.) This could certainly be characterized as a game the Grizzlies lost, as opposed to one the Clippers won. But I will say this: they hung around. On several occasions as the Memphis lead grew to 10 or 12, it felt like the game would get completely out of hand at any moment. But the Clippers hung around and hung around, and put themselves in position to win at the end.

Star-divide

And what a strange ending it was, too. If you didn't watch, after Mo Williams had given the Clippers a three point lead (their largest since the opening minute of the game) with six points in 30 seconds, a Mike Conley layup cut the lead back down to one with 29.5 seconds left on the game clock. After a Clippers timeout, their intent was to work some clock before taking a shot, but as is so often the case in these situations, they were too intent on using clock and not intent enough on getting a decent shot. As the possession spiraled toward disaster, Eric Bledsoe somehow regained possession of a ball he'd almost lost twice, and collided with Memphis' Tony Allen as he tried to release a desperation shot in the lane. The whistle blew - in fact, two whistles blew, and the referees wielding those whistles had two different calls.

Violet Palmer, positioned under the basket, had a block all the way - she's clearly visible on the replay, and she raises her hand to indicate that the shot will count if it goes, before signaling the block. Tony Brothers, positioned out front, saw it differently, and called it a charge. Invariably in these situations, the more senior official tends to take over and say, "Hey, it's my call kid." For some reason, that didn't happen here, which is a good thing for the Clippers because Brothers has several years on Palmer in the NBA. Instead, they discussed it, and agreed to disagree on the call, each standing by their own interpretation. They then went to the replay monitor to determine if the foul (whichever it was) had occurred before the shot clock had expired (it did). Once they had established that there was no shot clock violation, all that was left was to have a jump ball at mid court. Of course, while all of this was happening, it was essentially impossible to know exactly what they were discussing, why they were reviewing the play, what they had decided.

Short of a charge, the jump ball was as good a call as the Clippers could have hoped for. Essentially, they'd used the entire shot clock, leaving fewer than 6 seconds on the game clock, and still had a chance at possession. It's also worth noting that in a held ball situation, the team originally in possession would NOT get a new shot clock on a jump ball, but because this was a disputed call, the shot clock was reset (or in this case, turned off). Unfortunately for the Clippers, DeAndre Jordan was not in the game at the time and could not be subbed in, as DJ controls taps against almost anyone in the league, with the possible exception of JaVale McGee. But fortunately for the Clippers, Marc Gasol, while very big and very strong, is not particularly athletic. Indeed, Kaman controlled the tap. Blake Griffin alertly got the ball to Mo Williams, who deftly avoided a foul attempt by Shane Battier, and ran out the clock. Clippers win.

Almost more bizarre to me than the confusion over the call itself, was Memphis' handling of those final six seconds. Shane Battier seemed to be the only member of the Grizzlies aware that they needed to foul if they didn't control the tap. Quite honestly, it never occurred to me that the Clippers would win without Memphis ever getting the ball back. If LA won the tap, they would of course get fouled, and hopefully they'd make their free throws. But even then, Memphis might have time to tie the game with a last second three. Instead, while Battier literally dove at Williams to try to foul him, Tony Allen and Mike Conley just stood there and watched as Williams dribbled away the clock. I'm still at a loss as to how that could have happened. 5.7 seconds is a LOT of time. Why weren't they scrambling desperately after the ball? Very, very strange.

Although the Clippers were not sharp for the most part, it must be said that Williams came up huge in the fourth. He scored nine points, on two three pointers and an old-fashioned 'and one' three point play. As I mentioned, the final six came in succession, and turned a three point deficit into a three point advantage that held up. Williams was sorely needed as well, because Eric Gordon was nowhere to be found in the fourth period. It's not just that he played poorly - he literally wasn't on the floor for the final 17 minutes of the game. Along with most of the rest of the team, Gordon wasn't particularly sharp, but his absence must surely have been related to something beyond a simple coach's decision. One can only assume that his sore wrist began bothering him more than usual, which does not bode well for tomorrow night in Oklahoma City nor for the final four games.

In the back of my mind, I've been sort of tracking the Clippers on going performance since the low water mark of the season at 5-21 back in mid December. When they began to play so poorly in late March, and given the difficulty of their remaining schedule, I figured that the .500 mark since then they'd been hanging around for a while was soon to become a distant memory. But after back to back wins against playoff teams, they're back at 26-26 in their last 52 games. They're still a long way away from where they need to be, but a .500 record over the course of over 50 games is a decent accomplishment when you consider where this team had been.

It's also perhaps more than trivial that the Clippers have been finding ways to win close games lately. In fact, their last four wins qualify as probably their best four close wins of the season. (Note that I don't consider one point victories over Chicago and Sacramento as good close wins, since the Clippers did everything in their power to lose those games down the stretch.) For the first time this season, the Clippers are making plays in the final minute, and getting stops, and scoring key baskets. This is where Mo Williams, shoot first point guard, can come in handy. He's certainly not afraid to take big shots, and he's even made a couple, including tonight. Eric Gordon also hit huge late threes in recent games, and if your backcourt can make shots at the end of close games, it can make a huge difference. For over four months this season, the Clippers lost every close game they were in - including one to these same Grizzlies. Now they've won four straight. Will it carry over to next season? We'll see.

The Clippers did a lot of things to lose this game. They turned the ball over 20, which almost always translates to a loss, especially on the road. They didn't shoot well (with the exception of Chris Kaman, who was 7 for 12). They were beaten on back door cuts again and again (why don't more NBA teams get scores from back door cuts?). But they hung around and put themselves in a position to win, which is a great start.

It's a week away still, but an interesting rematch is looming for these teams. Sacramento helped Memphis out tonight by beating Houston (in Houston, no less), but Memphis could still be in a battle for the final playoff spot when they come to LA on the final day of the regular season in a national TV game. Memphis will be looking to avenge this loss, especially if they are still uncertain of their playoff position. And even if Houston is out of the picture, Memphis will be battling for playoff seeding (though a seventh seed, which will likely mean the Lakers in the first round, may not be preferable to an eighth seed this year). At any rate, I think the final game of the season could be very interesting at this point. After all, when the Clippers and Grizzlies play, bizarre things tend to happen.

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Yeah, Memphis fans will complain on this. Bledsoe was out of control. But Allen did not fully have position. I fact he tried to grab Bledsoe with both hands. I think that’s what Violet saw. So block or charge …. who knows. I’m not disappointed that they agreed to disagree … maybe that is the right call (a compromise).

But like any win or loss, it didn’t come down to that one play. Memphis shot horribly in the 4th quarter. They have to look inwards on this one.

by Thretch on Apr 5, 2011 10:40 PM PDT reply actions  

You nailed it...

I meant to point this out in fact. Allen almost wraps Bledsoe up with his arms… it was far from the textbook drawn charge. But Bledsoe was certainly out of control, and refs are loathe to bail a player out, especially at the end of a game. It was probably best as a no call… so the jump ball might have been the best resolution after the whistle blew. But a no call would have been worse for the Clippers, as Memphis would have had the rebound and had about 5 seconds left to try to score.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Apr 6, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Liked the recap

But I am curious as to why you didnt mention the benching of EJ for the homestretch of the game, nor the effectiveness of the Bledsoe, Foye, Mo 3-guard lineup (admittedly in a tiny sample).

by NewCavsfan on Apr 5, 2011 10:42 PM PDT reply actions  

I did mention it..

I mentioned the EJ benching. I wasn’t particularly crazy about the three guards that were out there… only Williams did much, it seems to me. Not sure why VDN went away from EJ… but he likes to close with the 3 guards, so without EJ that’s who he had.

AFA had a huge basket (and one), as well as a nice offensive rebound while he was in in the fourth also.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Apr 6, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

A very odd win...

Then again, I probably say this because I’m not used to these come-from-behind wins

by Ricekrispy10 on Apr 5, 2011 10:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Hard to figure this team out

Three come from behind 10 point deficit wins in the last week (Toronto, OKC, Memphis). I think all three were 10 point deficits in the 4th quarter (except tonight was only 9 in the 4th). We hadn’t seen much of that all season and suddenly three.

by Thretch on Apr 5, 2011 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

2nd Unit

Was nice to see Kaman spark the 2nd unit, and actually come back from a 10 point deficit on the road. Did we actually put the clamps down on D a little bit? Griffin was all heart and concentration on trying to stop ZBO and I’m glad he saw some results, especially with him taking some tough non-calls tonight.

Definitely saw more of the good Month tonight, you can see how he might help us improve on the road next year and in close games. He basically ripped that game away from us in Cleveland before he was traded here in similar fashion.

I didn’t watch the first half, but heard on the radio how EJ closed out the first two quarters. In a game like this and in general, those are really important shots and they are possessions we’ve seen this team waste time and again. It’s one skill EJ seems to have this year that he didn’t really have before.

Still, it’s tough to win consistently when you have multiple guys who have a hard time hanging on to the ball.

"The need to be right - the sign of a vulgar mind."

by ghost_ride on Apr 5, 2011 10:58 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Reason why Gordon didn't see the 4th QTR.

“Why didn’t Gordon play in the 4th Q? Coach felt that guys that got team back in it should finish it – and it worked!” -via Ralph Lawler’s twitter.

by clipper*joe on Apr 5, 2011 10:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Coach just pissed off EJ. Nice work.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Apr 5, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

If EJ is pissed by this he has the wrong attitude

the team won and that should be all he cares about, he was having a tough night and Vinny found a lineup that clicked and that lineup won the game.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown

by bestclipfan on Apr 5, 2011 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's fine, tomorrow is OKC

There’s not a lot of time to dwell on tonite, EJ will get plenty of burn tomorrow against OKC. It was interesting 2nite to see Bledsoe and Mo play side by side. Mo’s quick “And 1” layup at the final minute was very impressive, not something Baron can do at this point in his career. Rest assured EJ is still in the team’s long term plans.

This is going to be my team, and we're going to rise together.
-Clipper Darrell

by oasisman on Apr 5, 2011 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea I'm not really worried either

Any negative attitude we’ve gotten from him is because he’s never really won much on this team. I suspect that once we start winning more (which is bound to happen—-Steve’s right about those last 52 games) he’ll quickly turn his ‘tude around. I hope he’s just happy with the win. I know Blake is.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Apr 5, 2011 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

It looks like EJ pissed off the coach first

Probably deserved to get yanked for his antics. Time to grow up and play like a veteran.

by Thretch on Apr 6, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely it's time

If VDN does anything, I hope he can show Blake and EJ that they aren’t perfect because that’s how they’ll grow. Gregg Popovich seems pretty cold, but none of his players think they are God’s gift to the world, despite the fact that they very well just might be. Of course, if Vinnie fails in teaching lessons, he might just make his players hate him with nothing learned in the process. I’m hopeful that he’s a good teacher, though, because I think the players can relate to him.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Apr 6, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope EJ was benched for his incessant complaining.

The play where Tony Allen picked his pocket and he complained right away was one of the worst plays by EJ I’ve seen all season, maybe even as a Clipper. Because while he was complaining, Zach Randolph easily made the bucket without any contention from him. I don’t think anything pisses me off more than seeing something like that.

EJ definitely has attitude problems. My analysis of the situation is when he returned from injury he wasn’t fully healed and therefore wasn’t able to be as effective (as we’ve all noticed). This just frustrated him (it would to any scorer who has trouble scoring), so he just tried to work through the pain, but obviously couldn’t get over his woes (dribbling being one of the main problems. This just increased his frustration and led to this negative attitude we all noticed. The negative attitude today became toxic and it was doing more harm to the team when he was on court.

I still believe his problems root from the wrist injury because of the huge parity we see pre and post injury, and that is just something that needs to take time to solve. But on a grander issue, he needs to get his attitude under check and I hope his benching was a wake up call.

"The perception here in Los Angeles has always been that the Lakers find a way to win games and the Clippers find a way to lose…I recognize it, but I'm not going to accept it," Griffin said. "I'm not going to say, 'Oh, that's fine."

by TheEricGordonShow on Apr 5, 2011 11:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Best of Video

The coaches should really think about putting together a video of Gordon’s different reactions to officials, with all the grimacing, crying, and anguish on his face. Play it front of the whole team during film session, and maybe that might get him to stop.

"The need to be right - the sign of a vulgar mind."

by ghost_ride on Apr 5, 2011 11:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

That seems a little harsh

That might work for some players but I don’t think that humiliation is the best way to get the message across, especially if we ever want EJ to be a leader with BG. You don’t embarrass your team leaders.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown

by bestclipfan on Apr 5, 2011 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

the team leader is kind of embarrassing the team by choosing to argue with refs instead of fully focusing on the game. i didnt get to watch the game, but am happy to hear blake stopped his complaining and just played through the non-calls

by monro on Apr 5, 2011 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

i get the feeling that Blake pays attention to what people say about his game. he probably reads this blog.

by tenkaistar on Apr 6, 2011 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

If he read this blog he would have stopped complaining a long time ago.

BG is the second worst offender behind EJ for complaining/whining

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by Newton Pham on Apr 6, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking of almost exactly the same thing...

except not just with one or two players, but clips from the whole season with at least 1 clip from each player that ever did it this season; show the infringment, their reaction, the other team outnumbering them on the transition of that play because of the complaining player, and the ref not changing their mind (even them giving a “T” if that happend) at the end of it all.

…Then ask the team if 3 commons things happend and its benefits.

Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin]getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -Steve Perrin

by Takebb909 on Apr 6, 2011 12:10 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

As long as it wasn't just EJ it would probably work

and the team would get Vinnie’s point.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown

by bestclipfan on Apr 6, 2011 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lamar used to complain like that

Drove me crazy. I too hope they took him out for that reason.

Great win against a potential playoff team on the road. Loved the energy on defense. Somehow in the past few games they’ve begun to care again. And the overall record of .500 since the poor start with no pg is indeed pretty impressive considering their leading scorer EJ was out for over 20 of those games and the last few as Steve said have come with the playoffs totally out of reach.

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
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by Jax on Apr 6, 2011 7:32 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good point

That stretch without EJ and with Baron was pretty rough. After seeing Hayward help beat the Lakers last night, I’m definitely lamenting the Aminu pick more, he seems to be the player we’ve always had in the past where Hayward looks like he can help change the culture. Would also be good EJ insurance, neutralize Foye, and pick up some SF minutes.

"The need to be right - the sign of a vulgar mind."

by ghost_ride on Apr 6, 2011 11:09 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I too originally liked Hayward

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Apr 6, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

More glimpses from the Chief

He only had one bucket, but it was a nice And One that cut the Grizz lead from 7 to 4. His real moment of the game came when the Clips were down two and Deandre was at the ft line.
Deandre made the first but the second came off the rim with 2 Grizzlies in position for the rebound. Aminu got a finger to the ball and tipped it to himself to give the clippers an extra possession. He then took a terrible shot that airballed off a Grizz out of bounds.That possession however ended up with the Foye floater that gave the Clips their first lead of the 4th.

by Chris O'Reilly on Apr 6, 2011 12:26 AM PDT reply actions  

I happened to catch 5.7 seconds of this game.

Luckily, it was the final 5.7 seconds. Pretty crazy finish.

I've got nothing.

by bc56274 on Apr 6, 2011 1:07 AM PDT reply actions  

i got to watch part of the 2nd and 3rd

and it looked like an ugly game, and the clips were down between 7-12 like the whole time I watched. At least I got to see that one crazy catch and layup by Blake. Sad I had to miss the ending. Hopefully another good game tomorrow, but I think it’s going to be a tough one.

by osamu on Apr 6, 2011 3:37 AM PDT reply actions  

ack

meant to record this game, but didnt. my clippers live caught the moment after the game finished.

looked like a great comeback. i dont think the clips will be able to get the 35 wins ive been hoping for since gordon got injured, but 33 or 34 would be nice in itself. team is still inconsistent, but im happier with them now than i was in the beginning of the year. with gordon’s lengthy absence, playoffs were unrealistic, but im glad i feel better about the team. its griffin’s first year, lets hope we continue improving next year.

by shap on Apr 6, 2011 4:22 AM PDT reply actions  

This team usually plays a fantastic first half

and gives it away in the second. Now they’re getting come from behind victories. Weird, but very good to see they’re not giving up with intimidating deficits.

by dulciusXasperis on Apr 6, 2011 7:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Just before EJ was taken out of game

he threw the ball away, bounced it off his foot and got beat on a backdoor play in succession. He is my favorite Clip but I actually applaud Vinnie for sticking with who was hot.
Also,when the Clips were doing well in the 4th others of the bench were jumping and supporting the team while EJ just appeared to be moping.

by PV Mike on Apr 6, 2011 7:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Memphis is up 3 games on Houston with 4 to play. If the game in Los Angeles means anything other than playoff positioning I would be shocked.

by Michael White on Apr 6, 2011 7:52 AM PDT reply actions  

That's a home game with playoff obligations - a game they really needed to win

Seemed like poor coaching to me there at the end. I’m somewhat surprised that the Grizz lost at home to a lottery team with playoff implications, even if the Clippers are basically a .500 team over all now.

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Apr 6, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

* overall

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Apr 6, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

even if they wanted to lose

they should have fouled…put Mo (or Blake) on the line…if they make 1 or 2

…Memphis would probably have around 5 seconds to make a basket…

if they really wanted to lose…miss the shot…looks better than what happened…. “gave up” “lost on the play” “did not know what happened” “mental lapse” etc..

save face with the fans and with the media….at least “look” like you were playing hard all the way

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by KidJustin on Apr 6, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kaman Play of the game

Lots of us weren’t prepared for the early start, it seems. I turned on the radio on my way home, knowing I forgot to set the DVR. Beginning of the 4th, and Kaman hit two jumpers and then it was a game. The Clips kept charging and making plays and coming back during my short (8 minute) commute, which included a timeout or two. I think I saw the last 6 or 7 minutes. The whole time I was wondering what was going on with Gordon, unable to see him on the bench at first.

In this case VDN’s coaching seems like a confident player and shooter (as VDN once was) taking a bad shot. It’s fine, as long as it goes in. SP, above, felt that Gordon must have been tweaked, but it was a case of “going with the guys,” plus EJ’s turnover woes, and perhaps somewhat punitive towards EJ for taking himself out of the action by complaining about calls. Again, as long as the team wins, it seems somewhat okay, and might motivate EJ that other guys can step up and “play the right way.” But it’s dicey. We’ll see how it plays out tonight.

But what about that Christopher Zane Kaman? SP notes the panicky pass and turnover that tightened the game. But the much better, klassic Kaman was the behind the back pass to the corner when he had the open lane to the basket. There’s only one Kaman. Thank goodness.

by citizen zhiv on Apr 6, 2011 11:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Yah - punishment won't change anything with Kaman

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Apr 6, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wish I hadn't missed this game

But the power was out all day and night. Stupid thunderstorm! Glad to see the Clips pull a close one out even when everything wasn’t going their way.

by ClipCat on Apr 6, 2011 1:35 PM PDT reply actions  

VDN...

Did you see him talking to Blake during all the madness before the tip? You can see him telling Blake to call time out if they get the tip. Blake ignores him, and instead passes the ball to Mo Williams. Clips win the game.

Wily veteran move by Blake, ignoring your coach when he’s telling you to do something stupid.

by DoubleClutchClipperFan on Apr 6, 2011 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

it must be more than that...

probably..call timeout IF…

because if VDN wanted a timeout…he can call it himself when Blake got the ball. no need to instruct him or any other player for that matter

I Am Witness to the 1st BLAKE GRIFFIN Triple-Double!

by KidJustin on Apr 7, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

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