EuroBasket - Germany Loses, Fails to Advance
Germany lost to Lithuania today, 84-75, ending the EuroBasket 2011 sojourn for Dirk Nowitzki and Chris Kaman. The Germans dropped to fifth place in their group, with only the top four advancing to the quarterfinals. The loss also ended the Germans' dreams of playing in the 2012 Olympics in London, and may have ended the international career of Nowitzki in the process.
The biggest blow to the German's hopes occurred an hour before tip off, when Ersan Ilyasova's last second jump shot hit the back of the rim and bounced away. Had that shot fallen, Turkey would have beaten Serbia, and Germany would have needed just a simple victory to advance to the quarterfinals. Instead, Serbia's win meant that Germany had to win by at least 11 points to move forward. Playing before a manic sell out crowd in Vilnius, against a Lithuania team that itself had to win to advance, the Germans were facing long odds.
And it didn't help that Nowitzki had one of his worst shooting games ever in international play. Nowitzki didn't score until midway through the second quarter, and was a miserable 4 for 17 on the game. Much of that was courtesy of the attention he was getting from the Lithuanian defense - and perhaps a bit to the lack of attention he was getting from the referees. Ten times officials whistled fouls against a Nowitzki defender - but they could easily have called 20. Lithuania's strategy was pretty clear - work Nowitzki over at every opportunity, and it worked.
In contrast to all of the extra attention devoted to Dirk, Chris Kaman faced single coverage most of the game, and he feasted on it. He finished with a game high 25 points, as well as 11 rebounds and 3 blocked shots. He made 12 of 17 shots of varying degrees of difficulty. He was so dominant that at one point the announcers wondered why Nowitzki had shot the ball without Kaman getting a touch - surely a first for that question. Robin Benzing also had a big game for Germany, scoring 18 points on 7 for 7 shooting.
If you had told coach Dirk Bauermann beforehand that Kaman and Benzing would combine for 43 points on 19 for 24 shooting, he would surely have liked his chances in this game. Then again, if you'd told him that Nowitzki would be 4 for 17, he would have probably not have bothered to show up. Despite Kaman and Benzing, without the usual excellence of Nowitzki, the Germans didn't have enough depth. In fact, other than a three by Philipp Schwethelm (Friday's hero) to tie the game at 75 that turned out to be Germany's final points, only four German players scored in the game: Kaman, Benzing, Nowitzki and Heiko Schaffartzik (13).
Nonetheless, Germany had a real chance to win this game - but never much of a chance to build the 11 point advantage they would require to advance. They took the lead on two occasions in the second half, both times on Kaman scores - but each time, Lithuania responded with a run to re-build a cushion.
For the hosts, the difference makers were the old man and the young kid. Legendary Sarunas Jasikevicius, 35 years old and unretired from international play for one last tournament, scored 17 points and dished 4 assists. Teenager Jonas Valanciunas, 19 years old and playing with the senior team for the first time, scored 15 points. The two carried Lithuania in the fourth quarter, accounting for 20 of their final 22 points, including two separate alley oop dunks from the pick and roll. Valanciunas was not really expected to have much impact on this tournament at this stage of his career, but it's evident that Lithuania is significantly better with him on the floor - and I'm guessing the same will be true for Toronto when he makes his NBA debut. The kid is crazy long, surprisingly athletic, and highly skilled. He's going to be good; really, really good.
For Germany, this is a disappointing but certainly not embarrassing result. They were unlucky to find themselves on the more difficult side of the draw - I guarantee you they'd rather be in Finland's position, just needing a win over Slovenia to make the quarter finals. Or for that matter, in Slovenia's position, just needing a win over Finland. In the end, Germany didn't really lose to any team that you would expect them to beat - losses to France, Serbia, Spain and Lithuania are more or less to be expected for this team. They just don't have the top to bottom quality, and certainly not the guard play, to compete with those deeper teams on a consistent basis.
Kaman acquitted himself well representing his (not really) country. He finished the tournament with averages of 15.5 points, 10 rebounds, and almost 2 blocks per game while shooting 54% from the field. He leaves Lithuania as the tournament's leading rebounder, leading shot blocker, and 14th leading scorer. He also led the tournament with five double doubles. He was even better against the better opponents. In the second round, playing against Spain, Turkey and Lithuania (all with NBA front court players), he averaged 20 points, 10 rebounds and almost 3 blocks while shooting over 57%.
It remains to be seen if Kaman will ever return to international basketball. He's always been most focused on the Olympics, and with London in 2012 no longer a possibility, will he put in the time to work towards Rio 2016 when he'll be 34? And what of Nowitzki? The second leading career scorer in EuroBasket history, he's now 33, and will be 35 by the time another EuroBasket comes around, 38 for the next Olympics. Is his storied international career over? Then there's the simple fact that Kaman has never played for Germany without Nowitzki. His policy has always been if Dirk plays, he plays, and he's been true to his word so far. If Nowitzki has suited up for Germany for the last time, Kaman may have as well.
There was one other game in Group E today, with France facing Spain for first place in the group. Unfortunately, the French placed tactics ahead of seeding, and chose to rest Tony Parker and Joakim Noah for the big showdown, essentially conceding the number one seed to the Spaniards, which they happily accepted in a 96-69 blowout. The French apparently feel that Spain is their primary (only?) competition here, and that as long as Spain are on the other side of the quarterfinal bracket, they don't care who they face from Group F. Rather than give Spain a chance to scout their top players first hand, they decided to take the second seed and hope to see the Spaniards in the Championship game next week. It seems a dubious strategy, considering how solid the Russians have been so far in this tournament. With the top two finishers getting Olympic bids, the French will regret not taking this game seriously if they lose to Russia in the semi-finals.
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we have some idea of what’ll happen on those nights when EJ and BG are off their game…
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and too sleepy to worry at night."
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+1
This trade works and the 76ers need a Center (Kaman is better than Hawes) and want to move AI
Clippers get – Andre Igoudala
76ers get – Chris Kaman
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Here's what I don't get
You believe and have argued vociferously that Kaman is garbage. So what in the world makes you think that Philadelphia would trade Iguodala for him? By the way, your favorite stat, WS/48, has Hawes better than Kaman last year.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Sep 12, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Trade Value...
As a result of Kamans showing in this tournament, do you think his trade value has increased or decreased? Does Phiily think he is now worth AI?
When we win the NBA Championship, it will be that much sweeter!
by danobaseball on Sep 12, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Well...
I’m not sure how it could possibly have decreased. He led the tournament in rebounding and blocked shots, while shooting 54%. And if you’re going to play the ‘weaker’ competition card, it’s the same tournament as Joakim Noah and Marc Gasol played in (among dozens of other NBA bigs), so it’s a worthwhile accomplishment.
So the question is how much did it increase his value, and if other GM’s are smart, then the answer should be not much. He played, which is good because it puts him back in people’s minds after missing most of last season. But if you’re a GM who believes in ‘injury proneness’ then seeing him play in 8 games isn’t really going to be super reassuring in relation to an 82 game season. He displayed his skills effectively, but one assumes that a GM worth his salt already knew he had all of those skills.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Sep 12, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I Don't Know That Philly Would Make That Trade
However I do know that Philly has indicated a strong interest in trading AI
Hawes isn’t that bad but there is the Brand – Kaman connection.
Clipper fans can only hope. LOL
Raptors Valanciunas Blocks Kaman and Nowitzki at Eurobasket 2011
TORONTO/LITHUANIA – The Toronto Raptors’ Jonas Valanciunas helped Lithuania eliminate Germany from further play at FIBA Eurobasket 2011
It wasn’t until Valanciunas entered the game after about five and a half minutes that Lithuania started to show signs of slowing the big center down. Kaman did score twice more but he picked up a foul and two turnovers with Valanciunas guarding him before he took a rest near the end of the first quarter. At the other end Valanciunas missed a couple of poorly thrown alley-oop chances but took Kaman in the paint with a nice spin move for a lay-up and made a couple of free throws. Kaman simply could not match the younger player’s speed.
The game stayed close, and once again Valanciunas made his biggest impact coming off the bench mid-way through the fourth quarter, scoring nine points and collecting four key rebounds in six minutes. Most impressive were his blocks on Kaman and then Nowitzki on successive plays to help keep Germany’s two big offensive players from gaining any momentum down the stretch.
With Valanciunas covering him in the fourth, Kaman only scored four more points in his monster game of 25 points, 11 boards, and three blocks. Nowitzki finished his toughest game of the tournament with only a pair of made free throws over the final seven minutes. During this tournament, it has become evident that Valanciunas can play against the best big men the NBA has to offer.
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Nice Article on EJ in Slam - Finally Famous
Monday, September 12th, 2011 at 11:02 am | no responses
Finally Famous
Eric Gordon isn’t big on self-promotion, but he’s simply become too good to ignore.
Originally published in KICKS 14
by Aggrey Sam / @csnbullsinsider
In the case of Eric Gordon, what you see is what you get. The Los Angeles Clippers guard, now a vet of three NBA seasons, has always been that way, whether he’s directly in the spotlight or lurking in the shadows. Just check the track record.
Seemingly doing it since he shed the stroller and could walk on his own, which presumably happened first on a Naptown court, wherever Gordon plays he manages to get buckets. From his high-scoring days at Indianapolis’ North Central HS—where he dropped 50 a couple times as a senior and settled for 43 in a nationally televised game against Michael Jordan’s sons’ team with His Airness in the stands— to his lone, tumultuous year at Indiana University and now with the Clips, where he’s paired with Blake Griffin to form one of the most entertaining and versatile tandems in the League. But it also feels like he’s been playing the background for just as long.
Despite Gordon’s Swiss Army knife package of an explosive first step, enough bunnies to be in All-Star Weekend’s Dunk Contest (although he’s much more of a game dunker), a pure stroke with unlimited range (that’s how they make ’em in the Hoosier State) and a frame that looks ready to play strong safety in the NFL, he doesn’t get that League-wide shine, even though he plays with one of the most exciting players in the NBA. Again, nothing new for him.
"I try to think of myself as one of the better guards out there, but it’s all about whatever people think," says Gordon, in a laconic midwestern drawl that belies his on-court intensity.
"All I worry about is whether I can get the job done and help the team in any kind of way."
cont on link
http://www.slamonline.com/online/kicks/2011/09/finally-famous/
By the way. EJ is my favorite Clippers player.
I'm tired of Buddahfan...
He slams Kaman after he goes 21/11, mocks the owner of the board, and then comes up with the brilliant idea of trading Kaman for Andre Iguodala… which has been talked about for at least two years. Then he cuts and pastes a bunch of articles, one praising Jonas Valanciunas, who slowed Kaman down in the Lithuania game, but ignores the fact that Lithuania was a better, more balanced team than Germany. Other than Kaman and Dirk, Germany didn’t really have much. Then he drops an article about Eric Gordon which is fine but this is a thread about Eurobasket isn’t it? Don’t divert the thread, put the article up as a fanshot where it belongs. In general Buddahfan has acted arrogant, crappy, and dumb.
by John Raffo on Sep 13, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well
Truth be told, while the EJ article is of course out of place, compared to the rest of his comments, it’s a major improvement. Irrelevant is as good as it gets.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Sep 13, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
The Kaveman was carrying all them germans in this game.
Keep the kaveman he still is the original playoff Clipper. Mr. flippy has left the building.
I think we can do it with him and still get Prince or Battier.
sad for nowitzski
I guess Kaman too, but I doubt he has as much national pride as Dirk. I really wanted to see them play in the olympics, especially with the olympics being in Europe, it kinda feels wrong to leave out Germany. Maybe by 2016, the Dirk effect will have run it’s course, and you’ll see more young talent out of Germany. A 38 year old Nowitzski should be able to still play a role for an olympic team, but hopefully has more help.
I don't expect kaman to stick around much longer
he’s more valuable as a trade asset and barely plays anymore. I’m sure he could make a championship team more interesting like the celtics. I just don’t really see how he works out here with DJ and a lack of chemistry with blake. His supposedly big games are usually losses because he doesn’t make other players around him any better. He’s a shoot first big man that doesn’t have a consistent shot. He was far better as a defensive player and aggressive rebounder. I’m thinking injuries have made him timid in the paint and soft on defense. He used to be my favorite player, but now I just see him as a road block to the youth movement. I’m glad he isn’t the go to guy anymore for us because he just doesn’t have it.
wine um, dine um, 69 um
by flightofthegriffin on Sep 12, 2011 1:57 PM PDT reply actions
In fairness, Kaman was injured most of last year.
You might think his injuries were minor and he didn’t seem to fit in when he returned, but your remark about how he “barely plays anymore” seems absurd. He didn’t play because he wasn’t in uniform.
Lack of chemistry with Blake? Might that just be a lack of playing time and a lack of good coaching (and perhaps a point guard who knows how to distribute). I remember pretty clearly how well Kaman played alongside another all-star power forward a few years ago. And he just played a handful of top notch ball next to one of the best power forwards in the game. You think his game has deteriorated that much? He just led the Euro championships in rebounds, averaged a double double, and anchored that team defensively. And the competition was in general, first rate.
Kaman should come back and join our Impact League team!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
My guess he will be heading to a Grand Rapid Gun Store getting ammo as soon as he lands in the states
"Peyton Manning came to LA and didn't even call me"
LOL.. Probably
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Sep 12, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions

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