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Germany 73 - Turkey 67 - Kaman Comes Up Big

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In a truly must win game for the Germans at EuroBasket 2011, Chris Kaman of the Los Angeles Clippers scored 20 points to lead Germany to a come from behind victory over Turkey. Trailing big in the first half (they were down 22-10 at one point) and with the indispensable Dirk Nowitzki on the bench with foul trouble, it was Kaman who provided the star power to lift Germany to victory and keep their hopes of advancing alive. 

It started off badly. Kaman was 1 for 6 in the first quarter, and he and Nowitzki were a combined 3 for 12 midway through the second quarter as they fell behind more and more. When Dirk picked up his third foul with five minutes left in the first half and Germany still down 8, it seemed as good as over for Deutschland. But their defense held Turkey down for the rest of the half, and they managed to cut the lead to three before halftime, all with Dirk on the bench.

The game was a a tale of two halves. The first half was pretty terrible, truth be told. For most of it, Germany was about as bad as a team can be. Fortunately for them, Turkey was much better. The half ended 26-23 - 49 total points scored. But the second half was much more fluid, and the teams combined for almost as many points in each of the next two quarters.

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After starting the game 1 for 6, Kaman made 8 of his next 10 shots. When his jump shot is falling, as it was in the second half, he is a very difficult cover. He has a combination of offensive skills extremely rare in a man his size. He is a very good (I might even say excellent) face up shooter out to 18 or 20 feet; he has an array of back to the basket moves; and he has enough skill and quickness to put the ball on the floor and beat his defender with the dribble. He doesn't always put it all together, but when he does, he's tough to stop. Kaman also had a nice defensive game, blocking three shots and altering many others.

Kaman didn't do it alone however. Dirk also warmed up after his cold start and he finished with 19, but his minutes were limited all game by the fouls - he picked up his fourth with 3:31 left in the third (bear in mind that you are disqualified at 5 in international play). With Robin Benzing a complete non-factor (0 for 5 today) they needed someone else to step up and it turned out to be Philipp Schwethelm. Now, I've watched all of Germany's games in this EuroBasket, and several from the World Championships last year as well (his first major tournament on the national team), and I can honestly say I had never noticed him before. But today he had one of those games (or really one of those quarters), scoring 11 fourth quarter points that included three three pointers and another long jump shot. Schwethelm absolutely carried the offense in the fourth - Dirk had only two points in the quarter before he sank four free throws in the final 20 seconds to ice the game.

For Turkey, Omer Asik tried to pull them back into the game at the end. Asik, coming off his rookie season with the Bulls, is impossibly long and very active. He was a demon on the offensive boards in this game, with 7 of his 11 rebounds coming on the offensive end. He scored 19 points, almost exclusively on dunks and put backs. His offensive repertoire appears to be limited to finishing on the pick and roll (which is does well) and put backs, but he is very effective at those things. Unfortunately, he's a terrible free throw shooter, and was 1 for 5 today. In fact, Turkey wins this game if they shoot remotely well from the line - they missed 12 of 22 on the game.

The other Turkish players you've heard of were a mixed bag. Enes Kanter, the third overall pick from the draft who will be a Utah rookie this season, looked great when he was in. He was 5 for 5 shooting, and seems to be a highly polished low post scorer - surprising for a 19 year old. He's smaller than I thought - more like 6'10" than 7 feet and not particularly long - which could be a problem in the NBA if they expect him to play center. But the dude can score. Hedo Turkoglu was unspectacular if solid, with 9 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists. And then there was Ersan Ilyasova. Last year at the worlds, and two years ago at EuroBasket, Ilyasova looked like a star and he's shown some flashes playing for the Bucks as well. Today he was terrible - 1 for 7 and lost out there. (He did have 7 rebounds.)

For Germany, this win kept their faint hopes of advancing alive, but they'll need another win - and maybe some more help as well. Sunday is the last day of Group E, and Germany plays Lithuania in the final game of the day. If Turkey beats Serbia, then Germany will advance with a win. If Serbia beats Turkey and Germany beats Lithuania, then I think it will come down to point differential between Germany, Lithuania and Serbia - where Germany currently has a slight edge on Serbia for the final spot. We'll know exactly what needs to happen by the time the last game tips off on Sunday of course, but I'm pretty sure Germany will still have a chance at that point, though they may find themselves in a position where they not only have to win, but have to win by a certain number of points.

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France beat Lithuania

I’m not sure this is good for Germany. On Sunday Lithuania will be playing at home, after a loss, needing a win to ensure that they will advance.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Sep 9, 2011 12:56 PM PDT reply actions  

"A tale of two halves"

There’s a lockout, remember? You really shouldn’t be wasting your good stuff.
After watching this game I was thinking of writing a fanpost about how we might not want to be so fast to trade Kaman. But the last fanpost is 21 days old and I don’t want to be the guy who breaks the string.
It’s been interesting watching Kaman play Robin to Dirk’s Batman. The guy’s undeniably valuable when he’s not hurt. And he’s not hurt now.

by John Raffo on Sep 9, 2011 2:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Please

Break the string! Yesterday White starts a discussion of Kris Humphries on an unrelated post, now you’re missing an opportunity… suddenly everyone’s got fanpostophobia.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Sep 9, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tangentially

At best. AT BEST!

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Sep 9, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

I called dude on that. He’s probably worried about what will happen when the plug gets pulled. It’s all stopped up, ya know?

by John Raffo on Sep 9, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

i don’t even want to comment on the fanposts, I’m still waiting for someone to hurry up and get to our 2003 draft picks.

by osamu on Sep 9, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kaman

Funny, I’ve actually been thinking about writing a fanpost about how the Clippers should definitely trade Kaman because his offensive game doesn’t work for the Clippers now. He’s an inefficient scorer, especially for a center, he takes alot of shots when he’s on the floor, he’s become to reliant on the 18 ft jumper and probably will even more with Blake getting most of the low post opportunities. But I don’t want to break the fanpost streak either :-)

by Beasel on Sep 10, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I've been swamped with school lately so haven't had time to come on here

but now I just don’t want to be that guy who breaks the streak. 23 days is pretty epic for Clipsnation.

The next fanpost better be something epic to make this worthwhile.

Check out http://fullyclips.com/ - Really Great Clippers blog!

by peterghost on Sep 10, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure is lonely 'round these parts, cowpoke.

"Energizing the process, or turning it upside-down, fans now participate, writing blogs and posting comments and videos [...] the dialogue is to discourse what road rage is to driving." -Mark Heisler

by falconPUNCH on Sep 9, 2011 6:51 PM PDT reply actions  

YOU SHOULD THANK DIRK

He’s the one who sank the FTs to win the game. I can’t diminish Kaman’s role, however. He posted 20pts and 7 boards. Hopefully we will be able to see more of the when the season hopefully comes. Kaman has tended to be rather inconsistent in his career. One year he can look like an All Star, then the following seasonn he is completely MIA.

by Jeffrey Thompson on Sep 9, 2011 7:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Germany will move on if

they beat Lithuania. I believe the first tie breaker is head to head and that will get them in ahead of Turkey and Lithuania.

A typical Kaman game today: one awful, painful to watch quarter; two that guy can really play quarters; one he was out there but didn’t do too much quarter.

I think the Euro game really fits Chris’ game. It’s more physical, less athletic and half a step slower. Big problem for Germany is they have no ability to help out on defense when Chris steps out on the pick and roll or moves into the lane to stop penetration. Asik just killed them today on the p&r and on the offensive glass.

by MichClip on Sep 9, 2011 8:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Help defense

You’re right that the help rotations were terrible for Germany today, but I think a big part of that was Dirk’s foul trouble. Down the stretch, Dirk was playing with four fouls and when Kaman went to challenge a shot on penetration, it was Dirk who needed to rotate to Asik – and basically, he just didn’t do it. We know Dirk CAN do that, but he chose not to because of foul trouble. But you’re point is well taken – looking at the box score, you’d think Kaman wasn’t defending well because of the game Asik had. In reality, Kaman was doing his job (three blocks, numerous challenges) but the rotations were terrible.

As for the tie breakers, it gets complicated if Germany wins and Serbia wins. In that scenario, Turkey is in last place and out of the picture so Germany’s win over them doesn’t count. Records among the three would all be 1-1 – GER beat LTU, LTU beat SRB, SRB beat GER. Then it goes to a thing called goal average, which is based on points for and points against but is not exactly point differential. In that scenario, Germany has to win by 10 against Lithuania, by my math, in order to avoid being odd man out.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Sep 10, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are correct.....

Scenario I: Serbia and Germany both win. In this case Serbia qualify for sure, while Germany would need a win by 11 or more points. In any other case Serbia and Lithuania go through.

Scenario II: Serbia and Lithuania both win. This means Lithuania finish 3rd, Serbia go 4th and Germany with Turkey miss out.

Scenario III: Turkey and Germany win. Lithuania and Germany qualify in this order, at the expense of Turkey and Serbia.

by MichClip on Sep 10, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting...

I guess I don’t understand the tiebreaker rules as well as I thought…. I would not have thought that SRB is through with a win. From Germany’s perspective, this seems about right, but I’m still confused. But yes, this is all what the EuroBasket web site says so I assume that it’s correct.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Sep 10, 2011 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

right...

if Turkey and Germany win why doesn’t the point thing come into effect then? Turkey would have the same number of points as Germany.

I think the same group of lawyers that wrote the NBA CBA wrote the tiebreaker rules for FIBA.

by MichClip on Sep 10, 2011 11:04 PM PDT reply actions  

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