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Preliminary Team USA Roster

LaMarcus Aldridge
Carmelo Anthony
Chauncey Billups
Chris Bosh
Kobe Bryant
Tyson Chandler
Kevin Durant
Eric Gordon
Blake Griffin
Dwight Howard
Andre Iguodala
LeBron James
Kevin Love
Lamar Odom
Chris Paul
Derrick Rose
Dwyane Wade
Russell Westbrook
Deron Williams

According to Chris Sheridan, those are the 19 names on the preliminary Team USA roster, from which the London Olympic team will be chosen. Sheridan is not my favorite basketball writer, but he does do one thing much better than most, and that is cover the international scene.

Star-divide

The final roster of 12 players to compete in London isn't due until June, so presumably these 19 will participate in a training camp (to the extent that time allows it, given that the NBA Finals will also last until June), and seven more will be cut along the way. Given the current vogue for playing for your country, coach Mike Krzyzewski and Jerry Colangelo are going to have a very difficult task of trimming down this list. Already, just to arrive at the 19, there were presumably some tough calls. Look at it this way - no player from the 2008 Olympic Gold Medal team participated on the 2010 World Championship team. So with two twelve man rosters, you're starting from a pool of 24 players, presumably all very good, all of whom have already made a commitment to the program, all of whom brought home the Gold. And then there are the players who WEREN'T on either of those teams: youngsters like Blake Griffin and John Wall, All NBA players like LaMarcus Aldridge. According to Sheridan, both Griffin and Aldridge made the 19 man cut - so that means that of the original 24, only 17 were selected. So who got left off?

From the 2008 team, four players are NOT among the 19 on the preliminary roster:

Jason Kidd
Michael Redd
Tayshaun Prince
Carlos Boozer

From the 2010 team, three names are omitted:

Stephen Curry
Rudy Gay
Danny Granger

Kidd and Redd are not difficult to explain. Kidd actually UN-retired from international play to join the 2008 team, and will be 39 by the time of the London Games. He has no doubt removed himself from consideration. Redd is 32 and has barely played since the last Olympics because of numerous injuries.

Prince will turn 32 next month, and was a role player on the 2008 team, so it's perhaps not surprising that his name has been omitted. But still - he did his job in 2008, and if he wanted to be there, it's pretty hard not to include him, right?

As for Boozer, Curry, Gay and Granger, well, it kind of sucks for them. They're all still young - Boozer is barely 30 and the others are all under 30, with Curry and Gay theoretically entering their prime. Gay was a key reserve on the World Championship team along with Gordon and Westbrook (both of whom were invited), and it's hard to figure what he did to NOT be invited. Curry was clearly beaten out by Gordon as the designated shooter on the 2010 team (largely based on Gordon's superior defense) so it's understandable to have Gordon on the list ahead of him, but by the same token, if there's going to be a designated shooter on the 2012 team, I think I'd want to see Curry competing for it, especially in the absence of Redd. Boozer and Granger? Well, they played little and not particularly well in their Team USA experience, so I guess it's understandable to leave them off. Still, if they kept their noses clean, I'd at least expect them to get a camp invite.

Back to the 19, if you had to handicap the final 12 man roster, I think you'd probably start with the eight holdovers from 2008. Those just happen to be a collection of mega stars named Howard, James, Wade, Bosh, Bryant, Paul, Williams and Anthony. And they get the benefit of having been their first - 2008 Beijing just takes precedent over 2010 Turkey. Still, when you get right down to it, I think you can make a strong argument against three or four of those guys:

  • LeBron James was, by many accounts, a complete prima donna in 2008, and given that Team USA can easily win a Gold Medal without him, I'm not sure why you would want to put up with him. Oh no, wait, I do know - Nike is a major Olympic Sponsor.
  • Chris Bosh is a less than exhilarating choice on many levels, and there are just better power forward options available (such as Griffin and Aldridge). Of course, Coach K seems to adore playing perimeter basketball in international play, so Bosh as a finesse five seems to fit his style. (I don't really get that obsession with going small, fyi.)
  • Kobe Bryant, if we're worried about the age of a Tayshaun Prince or a Michael Redd, is after all 33. He also had a pretty sporadic record of answering the call when Team USA needed him prior to 2008 (if by sporadic you mean he didn't). Still, he was a beast in Beijing, played tough defense and shared the ball, so if he wants to play, he plays.
  • Carmelo Anthony - well, I don't like Carmelo, but his game is pretty much perfect for what Krzyzewski wants to do, especially if he's going to commit to defense as he did in Beijing.

At any rate, for now you reserve eight spots for those eight guys - because honestly, how do you cut any of them? That leaves four open spots.

Durant gets one of them. Once again, he's perfect for international ball, he can play the four, he can score at will, and he carried you to Gold in 2010. He's in.

Griffin is probably in as well. He's the new poster boy for the NBA, and USA Basketball will want him on the team for the marketing if nothing else. Team USA has basically abandoned any sort of post game in recent years, completely marginalizing Howard in 2008, so Griffin isn't a great fit from that regard. BUT, Team USA also wants to push the pace and fast break, and there isn't a big in the world better at finishing a break than Griffin. Imagine Griffin as the five on a team that forces a bunch of steals? Yikes.

That leaves two spots. One obvious choice would seem to be Derrick Rose, the 2011 NBA MVP and the second best player on the 2010 World Championships team. But look at all those point guards! We've already reserved spots for 2008 Olympians Paul and Williams, and then Westbrook and Billups are also in camp. Still, Rose will make the cut, because, along with Durant and Griffin, he's the future of the NBA.

So we're down to one spot. You can eliminate Westbrook and Billups because of the point guard glut. You can eliminate Odom and Chandler and Love and Aldridge because Coach K won't play bigs anyway, and he's already got Howard and Griffin and Bosh, while he wants to play Anthony and James and Durant at the four.

That leaves Iguodala and Gordon. And with Curry and Redd not even in camp, I ask you, who is the designated shooter on this team? Given the 19 they are inviting to camp, I can definitely see Eric Gordon claiming that final spot.

Of course, the team will likely be different than this. For one thing, when you're dealing with a dozen names, one or more will no doubt be injured in June precluding their inclusion. Others could drop out for personal or contractual reasons - it happens every summer. But if all these players are healthy and available, that's my predicted team.

P.S. Would you have ever in your wildest dreams have believed that there would be three current Clippers and one former Clipper on the list of 19 players from which USA Basketball is going to choose the Olympic team?

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It's crazy to me that there's as many Clippers as Miami's "Big 3" on that list,

plus we have a former Clipper. What also amazes me is that there’s a great chance the All-Star team will have 2 Clippers starting (along with 2 Lakers and a Thunder). These are not your old Clippers, that alone gives us credibility. Now we just have to go out and win.

by chrisd on Jan 11, 2012 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Sheridan Covering The International Scene

He does a pretty good for an American. LOL

I also like Erildas Budraitis whose stuff appears regularly on RealGM

Here is a recent piece he did for those not familiar with his work


Europe Interview: Sean May Of KK Zagreb
By: Erildas Budraitis
Jan 05, 2012 2:30 AM EST

He also tweets under I believe @Erildas

by Buddahfan on Jan 11, 2012 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

I do not see 3 Clippers making the roster

Somebody falling out, maybe Chauncey. I think Coach K likes EJ but I think he is on the bubble.

"Great Balls Of Fire, Reggie's Back!"

by PV Mike on Jan 11, 2012 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

Three Clippers On The List

Though I would think Toronto may have more players playing in the Olympics than any other team in the NBA. Of course none will be playing for team U.S.A.

Raptors players in 2012 Olympics could total as many as five.

1. Barbosa
2. Calderon
3. Kleiza – Maybe. Lithuania has to qualify but they probably will
4. Valanciunas – Maybe. Lithuania has to qualify they probably will
5. Bargnani – Maybe. Italy has to qualify though it is a long shot.

by Buddahfan on Jan 11, 2012 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

No Bargnani

Italy did not qualify for the last chance tournament. The Lithuanians have a pretty good shot to get in, though I’m not sure we can count Valanciunas as a Raptor yet; in theory you could count Sofo as a Clipper!

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 11, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Different

Clippers have Sofo’s rights, but realistically if Olshey didn’t bring him in over Solomon Jones/Brian Cook (or if Sofo didn’t want to come) then he will never be a Clipper.

Val is in the Rubio situation: they are only waiting for him and will bring him over ASAP.

by LJ Hann on Jan 11, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

no he is just a troll ignore him

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown

by bestclipfan on Jan 11, 2012 6:57 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Can't see Gordon making it

Too many other egos to massage. Gordon falls into the camp of the guys who did their job very well in 2010, but just aren’t big enough names to make it into 2012.

This is as much about politics as anything else.

Really can’t see how Rudy Gay isn’t on the list. I’d have picked him to make the actual squad….so that shows what I know.

by madglove on Jan 11, 2012 12:21 PM PST reply actions  

Egos

You got that right. Ironically, the things that make some of these players good national team players (willingness to play a role, lack of ego, low key) also make them easier to cut.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 11, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

my predictions

Starters: Rose, Durant, Melo, Lebron, Dwight
Reserves: Paul, Wade, Bryant, Griffin, Chandler
Deep: Gordon, Love
-——————————————————————————————————————-
The starting lineup would be sick! They would be physically/athletically dominant at each position.

I really think Gordon and Love will make the team – together they can pretty much fill in spots 1-5 on defense and provide sniper shooting if needed to help spread the floor for the penetrators (Rose, Wade, etc.).

We need Bill Walton back: "Where would the LA Clippers franchise be without Sean Rooks? Bo Outlaw might be the best pick up of the off season.
THROW IT DOWN BIG MAN...THROW IT DOWN"
___________

by banandy on Jan 11, 2012 1:26 PM PST reply actions  

4 bigs? Never

will either be 2 or 3. More likely, they will take 2 bigs (griffin/Howard) and a combo (bosh)

by LJ Hann on Jan 11, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm most iffy on Tyson Chandler making it among my predictions...

We need Bill Walton back: "Where would the LA Clippers franchise be without Sean Rooks? Bo Outlaw might be the best pick up of the off season.
THROW IT DOWN BIG MAN...THROW IT DOWN"
___________

by banandy on Jan 11, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Bigs

I assume you’re right and that Coach K will skimp on bigs based on his International history, but I hope he doesn’t. Spain will be there with both Gasols, Ibaka, Fran Vazquez and possibly Nikola Mirotic. Team USA could conceivably find itself in a position where it is getting pounded inside, which should never really happen.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 11, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

No way Bosh is a lock ...

… not when Aldridge and Love are putting up such monster numbers.

Here are I think the nine locks (assuming of course that they want to play)

Carmelo Anthony
Kobe Bryant
Kevin Durant
Blake Griffin
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
Chris Paul
Derrick Rose
Dwyane Wade

That would leave 1 PG spot, 1 PF spot, and 1 additional player.

Deron Williams would likely get the 3rd PG spot— but if he’s a free agent, then he probably won’t play, so Westbrook might get the spot (really depends on his season unfolds).

At PF, I think you have to take Love or Aldridge over Bosh. Love likely gets the nod because of his rebounding, three-point shooting, and outlet ability (also, his being the only white candidate probably won’t hurt either).

The last player seems like the real wildcard (btw, unlikely that two of above PFs get taken because Lebron will wind up playing a lot at the 4). I seem to recall that Iguodala got plenty of burn at the World’s too, so I can see him getting the last spot instead of Gordon if they want a perimeter player. But a case can be made for Chandler if a true backup to Howard is desired.

by Clipper Oz on Jan 11, 2012 1:41 PM PST reply actions  

two former clippers

LO…

"Blessed is the person who is too busy to worry in the daytime
and too sleepy to worry at night."
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by Lawler's Law on Jan 11, 2012 1:44 PM PST reply actions  

Kevin Love should be a lock for the team

not sure how you can have Griffin over him in international ball.

I’m going with (in no particular order) these 11 for sure

Wade
Lebron
Kobe
Howard
Griffin
Love
Durant
Rose
Paul
Bosh
Carmelo

Wildcard is Iguodala. They have to love Iggy’s defense (he can guard 4 positions in international play). I think he beats out EJ and LA for the last spot (shooter, backup big). Deron Williams hasn’t played as well, he’s possibly a free agent and they don’t need 4 PGs.

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Jan 11, 2012 2:27 PM PST reply actions  

meh

they don’t need 3 PGs rather (not with Kobe, Wade and LBJ providing additional depth there).

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Jan 11, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't be suprised

to see Rose playing at SG. He is a big physical guard, and a scorer over a distributor(while he is a good passer). Kobe will play some SF, LeBron/Melo will play power. Coach K has a big obsession with going small in international play.

by LJ Hann on Jan 11, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Love vs Griffin

Haven’t we always won by being more athletic than our opponents? I don’t know if Love would be as unique over there as he is over here, and in that way, his opponents might be better at figuring his game out. Totally guessing here.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 11, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly

how many european teams have 6’10/7’ guys who can hit jumpers? See Bargnani and Dirk

by LJ Hann on Jan 11, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

But neither dirk nor bargnani can rebound like love.

"Fresh out the airport/ Fresh out the chair with the clippers/ Like Sean Livin' thinking, hmm/ I'm trying to get it like Sean get it" - Wale "Beautiful Bliss"

by T_Silk on Jan 11, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

No

being more athletic (and being bad shooters) is how the US lost those years. They put a big emphasis on outside shooting (which is crucial against the zones you can use in FIBA) the last 4 years. Love’s game translate much better to FIBA than Blake’s.

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Jan 11, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think (for political reasons) Team USA will snub either Love or Griffin...

We need Bill Walton back: "Where would the LA Clippers franchise be without Sean Rooks? Bo Outlaw might be the best pick up of the off season.
THROW IT DOWN BIG MAN...THROW IT DOWN"
___________

by banandy on Jan 11, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

It’s both how they’ve won and how they’ve lost to be honest.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 11, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

This

It’s a double edged sword, but I think we’ve got enough shooters in Paul, Durant, Kobe, and Melo. You don’t need all 5 guys to be able to shoot (and I’m assuming Blake would be playing C here). Then again, maybe neither Love nor Griffin deserve to be on the team, due to lack of defense.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 11, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought they went and got both

and got rid of ball dominant over-dribbling guards like Marbury, AI etc.

I just remember them relying on Shawn Marion for outside shooting and teams packing the paint and playing a slow pace forcing the US to work hard for good shots. No country can compete with the US in a run and gun 7 seconds or less type of style.

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Jan 11, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

shit it down

haha, nice

Ralph, "Last year so often with Blake Griffin you would see these things coming, with Paul, he's so crafty, all of a sudden boom there it is."

by KidJustin on Jan 11, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

So doesn't that make Blake, a typical run-and-gun big, a pretty good fit too?

Honestly, I’d rather have them both in the game and tell Bosh to go sit down somewhere.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 11, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

No

honestly I think BG will struggle in international play. Its hard to get layup and dunks in the half court offense and he’s not a good enough shooter to make them pay for zone defenses. Dwight Howard didn’t do well either. The Lebrons, Wades and Kobes dominated the 2008 Olympics.

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Jan 11, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

True true

Howard definitely did struggle and he may be the best mirror for Blake. But Dwight plays D too. Hmm good point.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 11, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Griffin over Love

Griffin over Love for me has nothing to do with international style of play and everything to do with marketing. The NBA (and let’s face it, USA Basketball is a subsidiary) will want Griffin on the team, therefore, he’ll be on the team. That’s my take anyway. I agree that Love is a great fit, and I’d rather have both than have Bosh or really Melo for that matter. I’m just saying what I think will happen, and most of that has more to do with egos and politics than it does basketball.

The one basketball exception I made in my selections is Gordon. I really think they have to have a shooter – they have on every successful Team USA before. If they plan to count on Kobe and Melo and Durant to provide all of the outside shooting, I think it’s a mistake.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 11, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed on Gordon

He had a nice role in Turkey as both a shooter and defender. I actually see him making the squad, which will carry him at the expense of having only two true PGs.

What you think of:
LaMarcus Aldridge
Carmelo Anthony
Chauncey Billups
Chris Bosh
Kobe Bryant
Tyson Chandler
Kevin Durant
Eric Gordon
Blake Griffin
Dwight Howard
Andre Iguodala
LeBron James
Kevin Love
Lamar Odom
Chris Paul
Derrick Rose
Dwyane Wade
Russell Westbrook
Deron Williams

by Marver on Jan 11, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

NO WAY

Gordon’s good, but not better than Kobe, Wade, Deron & CP3

by Akram47 on Jan 11, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

he has Kobe Wade and CP3 making it...

Deron I think could have a case, but he will likely be a FA, has been struggling with injuries, etc etc

by LJ Hann on Jan 11, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I Know

I’m saying Gordon was good in Turkey cus those stars were not there.

I Like the idea of Bosh not making it.

by Akram47 on Jan 11, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Gordon was good

in Turkey because he didn’t have to handle the ball much. His responsibilities were strictly shooting on offense and play solid man defense. The first was clearly a success — he went 19 of 42 from deep — and, subjectively, he was as stout defensively as anyone.

I think he has a role even with guys like Wade and Kobe on the team, particularly as the kickback three option (and as someone who can guard two positions defensively).

I’m not saying Gordon is a lock to make the squad, but I do believe they’d benefit more from his presence than they would from an extra point guard that’s a worse shooter — Westbrook/Williams — or another power forward.

by Marver on Jan 11, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

In comparison to what? His NBA Play?

We’re talking about something bigger than allstars. This is a super team. The greatest basketball team on Earth!

You have a point as to why he was succesful on that particular team, but he did have Derrick Rose to his left and Durant and Rudy Gay to his right.

by Akram47 on Jan 11, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Griffin and Love make it over Bosh

Griffin = Marketing
Love= Can shoot anywhere, Can board hit 3’s

by Akram47 on Jan 11, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

My prediction :

PG-Derrick Rose
PG-Chris Paul
PG/SG-Deron Williams

SG/PG Kobe Bryant
SG/PGDwayne Wade

SF/PG/SG-Lebron James
SF/PF-Carmelo Anthony
SF/PF/C- Kevin Durant (yeah he can play the 5against small offbrand teams)

PF Blake Griffin
PF/C/ SF
Kevin Love

C-Tyson Chandler (Dont like this choice but its him or Aldridge)
C-Dwight Howard

by Akram47 on Jan 11, 2012 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

It's going to be tough to narrow down for Coach K and Colangelo.

Listed in alphabetical order by position:

Paul / Rose / Williams
Bryant / Wade
Anthony / Durant
Griffin / James / Love
Aldridge / Howard

Just missing the cut:
Bosh
Gordon

If an injury happens to one of the top 12, then Bosh or Gordon probably take that spot. If Howard is unable to play for whatever reason, then Chandler probably gets selected.

The 12 I listed, give us versatility, athleticism, perimeter and interior defense, big men that can bang in the paint and bigs that can space the floor. The B-Team had a lack of size and needed to use their speed and quickness. This team has it all (perhaps a dead eye shooter would be the icing on the cake). I would love to see Gordon on the team, but there are at least 5 guards that make the roster over him under normal circumstances.

Bosh could make it over Aldridge for the pure fact that he’s already participated on the National Team, but I’d much prefer Aldridge in there as the back-up. He’s tougher, slightly bigger (taller/heavier) and is a better player (imo) at this point in their careers.

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by Lawler 4ever on Jan 11, 2012 4:40 PM PST reply actions  

I think the US will have an even better team than they did in 2008

Rose, LeBron, Durant, Wade and Kobe will carry the scoring load, and Howard, Griffin and Durant will clean up the boards.

I think Blake will do surprisingly well in international play. It’s not only his athleticism that sets him apart, it’s his hustle.

I’m looking forward to Team USA 2012!

Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)

by mikey p on Jan 11, 2012 5:00 PM PST reply actions  

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