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Clippers vs. Dallas - Game Preview

2011/2012 NBA Regular Season
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STAPLES Center
January 18th, 2012, 7:30 PM
FSN Prime Ticket, ESPN, KFWB 980 AM
Probable starters:
Chauncey Billups
PG Jason Kidd
Randy Foye SG Delonte West
Caron Butler
SF Shawn Marion
Blake Griffin
PF Dirk Nowitzki
DeAndre Jordan
C Tyson Chandler
Brendan Haywood

The Back Story:

First meeting of the season. The Mavericks swept four meeting last season.

The Big Picture:

The Clippers suffered their worst and most embarrassing defeat of the season last night against the Jazz in Salt Lake City. I'm not suggesting that it was a strategy to tank that game and conserve their energy for the home crowd back in Staples tonight, but if they beat the Mavs, then it will all have paid off. I mean, no one really expected them to sweep a back-to-back-to-back, right? The real question is whether they'll have Chris Paul back (and to a lesser extent, Mo Williams). The starters should be able to hang with most teams even without them (although that certainly wasn't in evidence Tuesday), but the bench becomes a joke. The good news about a loss as bad as the one the Clippers suffered in Utah is that you don't really have to agonize over it. They got thrashed, it's over, move on. Hopefully they'll have much more energy in front of the home crowd tonight (last night they looked like they were playing in mud, but that can happen to a sea level team on a one day trip above 4000 feet).

Star-divide

The Antagonist:

The Mavericks started the season with three straight losses, and looked nothing like the team that stormed through the playoffs to their first NBA championship last summer. They've played better since, winning 8 of their last 11, but they still don't seem quite right. They lost some key pieces during the summer -- Tyson Chandler, J.J. Barea, Caron Butler and DeShawn Stevenson to be specific -- and depending upon your perspective, either damaged the chemistry of the team irrevocably, or forced it into a period of adjustment. The Mavs will always be built around Dirk Nowitzki, but there's no denying that there was something magical about the group from last season. Whether they can recapture that magic with a different group remains to be seen. Regardless, this would appear to be the last gasp for this group - of the core group, only Dirk, Shawn Marion and Brendan Haywood are signed beyond this season. They lost an ugly game to the Lakers on Monday night when Derek Fisher hit a three pointer with 3 seconds left.

The Subplots

  • [Note by Steve Perrin, 01/18/12 4:53 PM PST ] According to Brad Turner of the LA Times, Mo Willians is probably in while Chris Paul is definitely out for this game. The addition of Williams helps the Clippers bench a lot, but the offense has been a bit of a mess without Paul, particularly last night in Utah.
  • [Note by Steve Perrin, 01/18/12 2:12 PM PST ] Dirk has the sniffles. Dirk Nowitzki skipped Dallas' shootaround this morning because of a cold. Coach Rick Carlisle is hopeful he'll play, and I think we can assume that he will, but it remains to be seen how much energy he has to chase Blake Griffin. Vince Carter is out of this game after spraining his ankle against the Lakers. He's already back in Dallas.
  • Strength of Schedule. According to the strength of schedule metric on basketball-reference, through games of Monday, the Clippers had played the third toughest schedule in the NBA, and the Mavericks had played the 17th toughest. Moreover, since the Western Conference is the better conference, and the unbalanced schedule pits teams against their own conference with greater frequency (especially this lockout season), 15 of the 18 toughest schedules belong to West teams. In other words, Dallas has had the second easiest schedule of West teams so far. That becomes clear when you look at their five game win streak that ended Monday - all five wins were against teams at least four games under .500. In fact, the Mavs are 7-0 against teams with losing records this year, 1-5 against teams with winning records.
  • Road team rested. The Mavericks are on game two of a four game road trip, but they should be the better rested team tonight. They've been in LA for three days, after playing the Lakers Monday night. Meanwhile, the Clippers are playing the third game of a back-to-back-to-back, which is tough enough, but the NBA schedule makers decided to make it that much tougher by scheduling the middle game in Salt Lake City, almost 700 miles away.
  • Third game in three days. For the Clippers, they are completing the first of two B2B2Bs this season. They already looked exhausted last night in Utah, which could bode well (they didn't exert any effort and so they'll be relatively fresh tonight all things considered) or very, very badly (they were truly exhausted already, and are even more so now after a return flight from Utah and a late night).
  • Losing streak. The Clippers ended two long losing streaks last season - beating New Orleans after 14 straight losses, and the Spurs after 18 straight. The didn't come close to ending Utah's home dominance last night. But they have a chance to end another streak tonight. The Mavs have beaten the Clippers 10 straight times overall - the longest active losing streak for the Clippers. After ending a couple of streaks last year, it's time to end some more this year.
  • What Dallas lost. Chandler would seem to be the key loss for the Mavs. He was the anchor of their top ten rated defense. Paradoxically though, it is the offense that has let them done so far this year. The defensive efficiency is actually third in the NBA so far, but the offensive efficiency is way down at 22nd. At least part of that drop off is Nowitzki, who is having a slow start to the season. But one suspects that he'll be fine in the long run.
  • Getting old. Seven of the nine players in Dallas' rotation are over 30, including their top four scorers. Given a chance to get younger this summer, their primary additions were Vince Carter (35) and Lamar Odom (32). Lottery picks of the 90s are well represented on the Mavs lineup, including the 2nd overall pick in 1994 (Kidd), the 5th and 9th picks from 1998 (Carter and Nowitzki) and the 4th, 9th and 10th picks from 1999 (Odom, Marion and Jason Terry). In 1994 when Jason Kidd was drafted, a five year old Blake Griffin was the first pick of his Oklahoma pre-school.
  • Odom's slow start. We all know the story of how former Clipper Lamar Odom wound up in Dallas. When the Lakers proposed trade for Chris Paul fell through, Lamar got his knickers in a twist over being shopped and asked to be traded out of LA. The Lakers obliged, and sent him to Dallas for a first round pick and a trade exception. But apparently Lamar needed a little more time to get over the whole trauma, because he's been terrible so far. He's shooting 31 percent overall, 21 percent from three so far this season.
  • Cuban's strategy. Mark Cuban and the Mavericks are trying to thread the needle as they transition to a new era in Dallas. They got their championship last year; then they allowed players like Chandler and Barea to leave, at least in part because they did not want to take on any long term salary. Neither Odom nor Carter are fully guaranteed for next season, leaving Nowitzki, Marion and Haywood as the only big contracts on the books next season. The could amnesty Haywood and presumably dump Marion and free up a ton of cap space, which they would use to pursue Deron Williams (a Dallas native) and Dwight Howard. It's a bold strategy, one that leaves this season's team in a bit of limbo, but it could pay off big time.
  • No Barea. J.J. Barea has absolutely destroyed the Clippers over the years. It's bizarre to say, but I feel like his absence is the primary reason that the Clippers have a good chance to win this game.
  • Beaubois Schmeaubois. At the end of his rookie campaign two seasons ago, Roddy Beaubois came on strong and was decreed the solution at two guard for the Mavs, not to mention a star in waiting. He was one of the more talked about players in the 2010 Summer League (where frankly, he had some great games and some terrible games). Then he broke his foot before last season started and missed the first 54 games. Since he's been back, he's been anything but a star, either last year or this year. Whether it's a matter of getting back into a rhythm after the injury, or perhaps a case of a guy who was never really as good as he looked in a couple of games in April 2010, we'll just have to wait and see.
  • From the Urban Dictionary:

    maverick

    n. The only word Sarah Palin can use to describe John McCain.

    "John McCain's a Maverick!"
  • Get the Mavericks perspective at Mavs Moneyball.

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CP3 and Mo are out for this game??

I don’t know if I can watch Randy Foye play as much as he did these last 2 games anymore.

we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.

WHO WANTS A FREE SHARPIE?? -- Blake Griffin

by ClipperBEAST on Jan 18, 2012 6:33 AM PST reply actions  

Hopefully the extra day in LA for the Mavericks had them out late partying hard.

If not, we could be in trouble w/o CP3 or Mo. Vinny did not sound like CP3 was coming back soon when interviewed on TV last night stating we would get Mo back much sooner than CP3.

"Great Balls Of Fire, Reggie's Back!"

by PV Mike on Jan 18, 2012 7:04 AM PST reply actions  

At least Vince Carter is out

For whatever that’s worth. Haywood as a Center is a joke, so BG an DJ should have their way in the paint, hopefully

"Every existing thing is born without reason, prolongs itself out of weakness, and dies by chance" -Jean-Paul Sarte

by Jayq on Jan 18, 2012 7:35 AM PST reply actions  

2003 called

It wants the notion that Vince Carter being out is somehow better for the opponent back.

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Now living the good life in Lob City, CA.

by boltsfan21 on Jan 18, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, id actually be more worried about the young Dominique Jones (Dojo) filling in

He’s an athletic dude who looked good in spurts last year, he might be the one to replace Carter tonight. Hopefully he is a turnover machine if he plays.

by cassellmania on Jan 18, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

DoJo

is currently in the D-League, has not been called back up since Carter’s Injury. Even if he would be available, Rick Carlisle does not agree with your assessment.

"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!" - French Jesus about Jewish Ice-T

by DOH on Jan 18, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Billups has to be a pass first PG for us to win

He needs to get plays going for Blake to set up in the post, get DJ flowing with cuts to the basket off double teams, and set the mid range up for Butler. I really don’t want to see Foye start again its going to be a tough match up.

I would not mind seeing a starting line up of Billups,Butler,Gomes,Griffin, Jordan. At least then we have a chance at some offensive bench shooting with Foye, this thing with Mo is getting upsetting he should be back for this game.

by KillaClip on Jan 18, 2012 7:37 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Sometimes Chauncey and Foye

look like Chucker A and Chucker B. Does anybody have their shooting % stats to date? I am guessing pretty low.

"Great Balls Of Fire, Reggie's Back!"

by PV Mike on Jan 18, 2012 7:42 AM PST up reply actions  

i still believe there is a littlw play maker left in him

Same thing goes for Foye but when they both try to go off and score it looks terrible. This may have been the reason all this time why Paul was so passive to start games so Billups can take all his shots early and would tire down and then Paul take over. Billups and Foye need to decide who will be the off ball scorer and who will look to shoot.

I personally would prefer Foye handling they ball to start as a pure PG I notice he has the best chemistry of knowing where to put the ball where Jordan can either catch it off the glass or knows where to lob it and DJ will out jump his man with Griffin he knows to get Griffin in the post and wait for the kick out. Once we get Jordan and Griffin going Billups will have better looks from range and attacking the basket. Later in the game Foye can attack play off of Billups hitting runners and open J’s.

by KillaClip on Jan 18, 2012 8:19 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Shooting

Billups and Foye last two games 18-59. Both about 35% for the season.
Can’t touch Cookie’s 18% though.
Shooting can only get better.

by thewhiteshadow on Jan 18, 2012 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Billups TS% is at 54.7 while Foye is at a miserable 44.8%

Billups is still below his career average but it tells me that Chauncey can keep chucking it as he still gets to the line and is still hitting his threes. Butler is at 54% as a further comparison.

Foye should just pass, play defense and look pretty.

Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.

by ganima on Jan 18, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Billups

Although he won’t admit it, Chauncey is not really a PG anymore. He’s a Shooting Guard. Period. His best attributes at this stage of his career are knocking down the 3 and getting to the foul line. He’s not able to create opportunities for others as a PG needs to do. If the Clippers are not knocking down their jumpers they will continue to struggle to score points without Paul.

by Beasel on Jan 18, 2012 7:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Then Foye has to understand to not settle and set up plays

Its hard having to gunners at the same time its near impossible at PG and SG we need one to maintain an offensive flow for the entire team.

by KillaClip on Jan 18, 2012 8:22 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Too much to ask from Foye

He’ll always be a chucker. Sure he can have stretches where he’ll distribute the ball (think he had 7 assists in the first half of the Nets game), but he’ll always go back to chucking. The only hope we have with Foye is that its one of the rare games where he is actually making shots.

by Beasel on Jan 18, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

hah

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 18, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

oops

that’s not good.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 18, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

lol idk but foye rly hurt us

Last night but guys were tired seemed like they didnt care i mean the first play was almost a to then we got it back threw a careless pass a 2nd grader coulda stolen story of last night

by balla131 on Jan 18, 2012 7:56 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Now

That chandler is back with dallas they will be hard to beat. His name is there…

by arman martikian on Jan 18, 2012 8:07 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Strength of Schedule Updated
Strength of Schedule. According to the strength of schedule metric on basketball-reference, through games of Monday, the Clippers had played the third toughest schedule in the NBA,

Updated it looks like Clippers have the current highest SOS in the NBA

Dallas is 18th

by Buddahfan on Jan 18, 2012 8:24 AM PST reply actions  

yea

But does it take into account the rest the Clips are getting? We’ve played fewer games and had more rest inbetween than other teams. The schedule must be getting nasty soon.

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Jan 18, 2012 1:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Good Point

Maybe the SOS should reflect days off and not off between games.

by Buddahfan on Jan 18, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Does not

The Clippers schedule will get tougher on rest days, but will even out on opponents.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 18, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I figured

I figured the Clippers would go up based on playing Utah.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 18, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

True But
Moreover, since the Western Conference is the better conference,

True however won could argue that the top three teams in the league are in the EC.. However of the top 16 rated teams the EC has only six

So the WC has more good teams but the EC has the top teams in the league

by Buddahfan on Jan 18, 2012 8:35 AM PST reply actions  

self fulfilling prophecy

I’m assuming you’re including Philly in that top 3 thing. Look at who they played. East gets to play more east teams, therefore good east teams look better than they are.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 18, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

maverick

n. The only word Sarah Palin can use to describe John McCain.

“John McCain’s a Maverick!”

McCain supported the Patriot Act and was co-sponsor of the NDAA, the most draconian piece of legislature ever passed by the U.S. Congress.

by Buddahfan on Jan 18, 2012 8:41 AM PST reply actions  

Haha

"Fresh out the airport/ Fresh out the chair with the clippers/ Like Sean Livin' thinking, hmm/ I'm trying to get it like Sean get it" - Wale "Beautiful Bliss"

by T_Silk on Jan 18, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Steve Started It - LOL

just going with the “Hustle and Flow”

by Buddahfan on Jan 18, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

It was the only funny one on Urban Dictionary

Don’t think he was trying to start a political discussion haha

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 18, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Steve's post was a lighthearted joke

Your response was a serious political statement that is far more likely to start a very off-topic and annoying political battle that no one here really cares to read.

Maybe Steve should’ve picked a different urban dictionary definition, or maybe, just maybe, he should be able to actually trust us to know a joke when we see one and not start taking sides.

I applaud your use of the word “draconian” though. It’s just an awesome word.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 18, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks For The Compliment

Sorry but I find nothing funny about the likes of those two. If McCain didn’t have so much influence I might take him as a joke, alas for Americans and the the world at large tthat is not the case

by Buddahfan on Jan 18, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to get in the middle of this, but . . .

McCain was also a war hero who was tortured in Vietnam for four years so he deserves a little respect.

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Jan 18, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

So you don't like McCain and Palin, but you don't think a joke at their expense is funny?

Strange…

But yeah, I really, really, really don’t care about how anyone on this blog feels about anyone’s political agendas. There is nothing at all interesting about that. So I will post a response that is equally as interesting.

Please join me in watching this paint peel:

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 18, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly!

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 18, 2012 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Getting nervous about Chris Paul

Until I actually see him in a game healthy I’m going to assume that he’s going to be out for a long time. Remember Kaman’s “sprained ankle” that made him miss like 50 games last season? Hope this isn’t the same type of situation.

by lbclips on Jan 18, 2012 9:03 AM PST reply actions  

It's the Powell hands...

what should be a day to a week always turns to a month or 5.

"Things change when something is taken away from you" -BG32

by JackduhSun on Jan 18, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

remember that one blake griffin injury? the stress that comes with being a clippers fan

by CLIPPERDEAN on Jan 18, 2012 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesome preview. Best of the year?

The strength of schedule bit is cool. The Blake Griffin, pre-school pick was funny. I like the “thread the needle” metaphor. In between, in Hammet-like economy and swift action, you handily cleaned up inappropriate posting in another thread. Steve remains the boss.

by John Raffo on Jan 18, 2012 9:15 AM PST reply actions  

CP3

I expect CP3 to sit tonight as well. It’s only been 3 days since he injured the hamstring. That kind of injury doesn’t heal that quickly. If the Clips can win tonight, I think they’ll continue to rest him. But if they lose, then CP may try to rush back.

So I’m really hoping the Clips can pull this one out. The last thing we need is CP3 to rush back and not let that hamstring fully heal. It’s still a long season.

Personally I’d like to see him rest through the weekend and come back next Wed in Part II of the Battle of LA.

by madglove on Jan 18, 2012 9:37 AM PST reply actions  

while wearing his civvies last night the brother was a limping. An immediate return did not look likely. Get better, Paul.

by wilriv21 on Jan 18, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Does anyone read the LAtimes?

Bledsoe-Out for 2 weeks

Chris Paul- Day to day, but they havent mentioned a return time, unlike Mo. Hopefully he is back by Sunday.

Mo- Was in shootaround yesterday, probable game time decision today. Hopes to be back on Friday.

Cook- Nobody cares.

by NewCavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 10:05 AM PST reply actions  

Bledsoe is needed this game

The team lacks a Speed guy to change things up. Fortson is quick, but he’ll be playing at a normal pace for job security purposes. Leslie I will be shocked he gets PT. It will be a tough game. Then again, the Mavs are not a quick team anymore, as they have gutted the team to make a run a Dwight Howard.

"After the first six minutes I was heavily winded"-Andrew Bynum

by oasisman on Jan 18, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

umm

The Clips are one of the best teams at taking care of the basketball this year. This is because CP3 is a wizard and Bledsoe hasn’t played. We need Bledsoe to come back and know how to play with a good pace. Turnover machine from last year cannot be in play this year.

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Jan 18, 2012 1:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Elevation and Utah
Hopefully they’ll have much more energy in front of the home crowd tonight (last night they looked like they were playing in mud, but that can happen to a sea level team on a one day trip above 4000 feet).

If you follow the World Cup qualifiers, you know why the US and other countries have a hard time playing in Mexico City (7940 ft. above sea level). The elevation really messes you up.

If you follow the MLS, you know why other teams have a hard time playing in Salt Lake City. Not making excuses but elevation plays a role in the way you perform.

by lovinglosangeles on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 AM PST reply actions  

True but even the MLS teams

have a hard time in Salt Lake City (4226 ft). That’s one of the reasons why they usually get into town a couple of days ahead of the game just to get acclimated. And even then, sometimes it is not enough.

by lovinglosangeles on Jan 18, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely true

It’s also been at least a little responsible for the Tebow “magic.” The Broncos have always been a 4th-quarter comeback team at home because the other team is completely gassed by the end. I read somewhere that, statistically, the Broncos have historically enjoyed the biggest home-field advantage in all of American professional sports.

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Now living the good life in Lob City, CA.

by boltsfan21 on Jan 18, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I posted this on the actual fanshot

But could you please post the whole Hollinger article somewhere? I dont have insider so I cant follow the link to anything outside of a brief blurb.

by NewCavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

No. That is against the rules here.

by Michael White on Jan 18, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Tebow actually did plenty of his magic while on the road,

by wilriv21 on Jan 18, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Which is why I said "a little responsible"

instead of “totally responsible”

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Now living the good life in Lob City, CA.

by boltsfan21 on Jan 18, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to think Melo was going to erupt in NY because he had gotten used to the altitude.

So much for that…

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 18, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I also thought the D'Antoni system would inflate his stats too

Melo really had every opportunity to start scoring 35ppg.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 18, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Programming note...

Tonight’s game is actually going to be on Fox Sports West, instead of Prime Ticket (Ducks-Phoenix Coyotes game at the same time).

by Shawn H on Jan 18, 2012 10:37 AM PST reply actions  

No excuses...

It was a bad game, every team in the league has a bad game or two. Learn from it and move on.

We do need both CP3 and Mo. I like Chauncy has a SG, as a PG….eh.

by Hengtime81 on Jan 18, 2012 10:38 AM PST reply actions  

I didn't see the game last nite

But was listening to the Jazz announcers, wont do that again. But, our second team was so sad, I know they can’t really score but it sure seemed that Utah completely controlled the paint also while they were in. At least make the other team beat you with free throws if you can’t score at all. There HAS to be someone besides Mo who can step up, who is it?

by rouse77 on Jan 18, 2012 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

Blake meeds to go BEAST

He needs to take over and take away shots from Foye. Looking forward to see how he bounces back after geting punched in the face, figuritively of course.

when you hear the Clippers, it’s not going to be a joke anymore. I can guarantee you that -BG32

by cliptakular on Jan 18, 2012 11:15 AM PST reply actions  

I prefer Griffin play under control. Athletic but still under control. Not putting up shot after shot or forcing his shot. More hustle, layups, putbacks etc

by wilriv21 on Jan 18, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think anyone played more than 30 minutes last night. The guys should be rested.

I think since it’s a big team and it’s a nationally televised game, the team will show up. 710 AM is bashing us for the loss last night. They are questioning our teams heart. I think the Jazz game was the obvious throw away game. I think the Mavs like to use the zone defense which doesn’t work well on the Clippers. We are at home. We can take this even without CP3. Our perimeter defense needs to be good.

by tenkaistar on Jan 18, 2012 11:32 AM PST reply actions  

That's pretty funny coming from 710/Lakers

I guess we should question the Lakers’ heart for losing to Sacto.

Having said that, we need to learn how to win on the road. Work in progress.

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Jan 18, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

This team has a big heart

but it needs to show up in the 2nd unit..

by rouse77 on Jan 18, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: zone defense- Butler and Billups

Went combined 0-8 on 3s last night. I highly doubt they shoot that poorly two games in a row. I expect an ugly, close game, but a Clipper W at the end of the night.

by cassellmania on Jan 18, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The goal remains to just make the playoffs

This season has definitely been filled with a lot more parity than I’m use to…get healthy by playoffs and be in for the playoffs. That’s all that matters.

by UC.Clipper on Jan 18, 2012 12:25 PM PST reply actions  

Finishs ahead of Fakers

the goal is one spot ahead of the other LA team.

Patriots, Clippers, Angels fan since 1980

by Pats fan in CA on Jan 18, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think he means playoffs and swept

he means just survive the schedule until the playoffs so that we are healthy in the beginning and prime for a run

by LJ Hann on Jan 18, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree Sort Of

I also think that they would like to finish ahead of the Lakers but not at the risk of incurring serious injuries that would make it difficult for the Clippers to start the playoffs healthy.

by Buddahfan on Jan 18, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Dirk Sick

Didn’t participate in shootaround this morning and Carter got sent home to Dallas to be reexamined. Might be a good thing for the Clippers.

by Hengtime81 on Jan 18, 2012 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

hamburgers and tacos?

by wilriv21 on Jan 18, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Glad to see you learned how to insert pictures into blogs. Am I gonna see anymore
???? To be continued….

BG + CP3 = STFD

by TinkyTime on Jan 18, 2012 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

To get a win tonight

the Clippers need to play with more effort on defense. It will be interesting to see how they approach covering Dirk. I would love to see Blake get some opportunities, although we may be better suited keeping blake down low for rebounds as the Mavs like to take a lot of Jump shots. If Blake does end up covering Dirk on the perimeter, its imperative that the guards crash the boards.

Offensively, the Clippers need to go at Nowitzki early and often. Take advantage of the mismatches we have. Assuming Chris Paul doesn’t play, lets see Billups and Blake work the two man game. If Kidd/Terry go under screens, Chauncey needs to knock down the mid range jumper. On the pick and pop, lets see Grififn try to get the ball a couple of feet closer (15-16 ft as opposed to 19-20). Force Dallas to switch on screens when they are in Man to man and get the mismatches we want. If they sit in a zone, its all about spreading them out and knocking down shots. Butler, Billups, Foye, and (sigh) even Gomes need to knock down some shots, and the bigs need to rebound. Without Paul the Clippers have looked lost at times, and that can’t happen. Get stops and run when you can and execute in the half court. That plus a little bit of effort on the defensive end and the Clippers have a great shot 2 finish the back to back to back 2-1 .

by johnnyoc21 on Jan 18, 2012 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

We lose if Foye gets more shots than Blake/Chauncey/Caron

only DJ should have less shots in the starting lineup.

Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.

by ganima on Jan 18, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Make sure you're not preassigned to the recap!!

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Jan 18, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

paul also announced as out

meanwhile im seeing the team on fri :(

by shap on Jan 18, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with some folks here that

we should not rush Paul back. It is more important to have him healthy for later in the season.

by lovinglosangeles on Jan 18, 2012 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

For sure

As long as 2 of the Mo, Butler, Billups trio play well we can win without CP3. Last night, there was no Mo, and Billups and Butler both didnt play well.

by NewCavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

thank you captain obvious

Not to be mean….

"After the first six minutes I was heavily winded"-Andrew Bynum

by oasisman on Jan 18, 2012 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Mo will probably be on limited minutes tonight

But his return alone should see a drop in Foye minutes. Probably down to 15 a game from about 30. When CP3 comes back, Foye minutes should drop to around 10-12.

by NewCavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.nba.com/news/features/2012-gm-survey/index.html#players

GM survey. Favorite part: Reggie Evans tied for 3rd on toughness.

by agolden on Jan 18, 2012 4:42 PM PST reply actions  

nba countdown said......

the panel on n b a countdown all said the clippers would win their division….. jon berry, wilborn and the rest, getting some love feels good!

brijo1

by ThaFoX on Jan 18, 2012 4:59 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Wow, Jon Barry?

He was near the front of the ESPN Clipper Bash Wagon for so long. . .
Feels good indeed. . .now lets prove them right

by cassellmania on Jan 18, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

True

I never took the espn panels seriously. TNT panel blows them away, even though I was seriously disappointed in Chuck blatant dissing of the Clips on MLK day, saying ’They’re still the second best team at staples’ without explaining himself, then going on and on how K Love is best PF in game. Shaq and Kenny tried to explain to Chuck how Blake is at least as good as K Love and Chuck just stared without saying a word. What up Chuck? I guess he sees the Clips as a hype team, and he usually roots for underdogs, as evident by his ridiculous statement that ‘The Blazers and Nuggets are the top teams in west’

by cassellmania on Jan 18, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Remember

Chuck is a big believer in size = championships. Which is weird coming from an undersized PF… but maybe it’s his excuse for why he couldn’t dominate properly. Always wished he was taller or something?

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 18, 2012 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh but he's underrated according to John Hollinger

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 18, 2012 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Reggie!

Admittedly, I haven’t seen every game, but I love what I saw from Reggie in the games that I did see. Sure, he’s undersized and doesn’t have much of a basketball skill set, but the dude was playing hard, snatching boards and dribbling it out instead of looking for his shot. I love when guys know their roles. Maybe I also just love guys who make hustle plays. I hope Blake gets nasty on the boards tonight and makes a few hustle plays of his own. I also might just love yelling THANK YOU REGGIE! THAT’S WHAT YOU SUPPOSED TO DO! every time he grabs an offensive board.

BG + CP3 = STFD

by TinkyTime on Jan 18, 2012 5:18 PM PST reply actions  

Great stats on the Clips for the season over at Mavs Moneyball.

Formerly Newtybar. Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!

by Newton Pham on Jan 18, 2012 5:26 PM PST reply actions  

Holy CRAP that's cool!

You need to fanshot this ASAP.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 18, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmmmmmmmmm

I’m in my busy season right now, but I’ll definitely take a look at that source site and see what data I can yank from it. Of course, if this new internet bill gets passed, I might get arrested.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 18, 2012 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

SOPA wants to make Clipsnation a $25 monthly fee. Steve gets exactly none of it. It all goes to the building of Jumbaco concentration camps as the ever-evil government tries to rid us of all we love.

by LJ Hann on Jan 18, 2012 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

no

it’s a camp where they are taking all the JUMBACOS and slowly extracting the ingredients. Two tacos and a burger, all seperate! It’s not natural!

by LJ Hann on Jan 18, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Ric Bucher on CP3

RicBucher Ric Bucher
CP3 is champing at the bit but not going tonight, according to a team source.
10 minutes ago

by Hengtime81 on Jan 18, 2012 5:46 PM PST reply actions  

Yup

I believe the origins are British, but it still refers to the sound of a horse chewing on their bit. The words “champ” and “chomp” are both similar onomatopoeia in this case. “Champing” is the proper term to use when referring to what a horse is doing, but “chomping” is basically the same thing (just not restricted to horses).

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 18, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

One good note thougH

Arash Markazi said he was getting shots up at center court. So he must be feeling better

by Rakelds79 on Jan 18, 2012 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

yes im being selfish because im going to the game

this is my only chance to catch the team this year tho

by shap on Jan 18, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

https://twitter.com/#!/MadelynBurke/status/159815347745198082/photo/1

shots of CP3 warming up right now via Madelyn’s twitter, although she says he’s doubtful to play

by chrisd on Jan 18, 2012 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

PLEASE CP3 BE LIMITED TONIGHT

want him to play, but go too hard. Start Mo, give CP3 like 20 min

by LJ Hann on Jan 18, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Save CP3 for tonight

and we go 54-0 remaining regular season games!

Patriots, Clippers, Angels fan since 1980

by Pats fan in CA on Jan 18, 2012 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone else feel Fortson> Morris (on Lakers)

There has been a lot of chit chat about Morris, especially with Steve Blake injured. The kid dribbles a lot, is often out of control, and his shots that go in are often more luck than skill. I think Fortson controls the game better, is faster, and takes much better shots. Am I crazy or is Fortson better than the Lakers’ backup PG?

by SurfinQ00 on Jan 18, 2012 5:50 PM PST reply actions  

Fortson vs Morris

I compare Fortson to Mike Taylor. Has potential for good games here and there. I agree with Morris, he’s just a lucky mofo and is really cocky because he’s on the Lakers. But if you ask me, I wouldn’t sign either of them on my team.

by Hengtime81 on Jan 18, 2012 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't sign either of them too.

But everybody needs a backup… (in this case backup to a backup) and I like Fortson over Morris. I didn’t know if I’m the only one who thinks Morris is full of it, just wanted to know what others thought

by SurfinQ00 on Jan 18, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he's really full of it...

If you really analyze Laker’s 2nd players, they really think they are the sh!t. Players like Sasha, Farmer, and Shannon Brown, they all had this swagger because they had Kobe’s skills to back up their mediocre skills. But when they leave the Lakers, they just fade away. I see that with Morris, he only acts cocky because he’s on the Lakers so he can brag at the club to get the hoodrat.

by Hengtime81 on Jan 18, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

DJ Mbenga, Josh Powell,Trevor Ariza,Lamar Odom(so far?)

all former Laker players who you could say that applies to.

Maybe Kobe actually (gulp) makes his teammates better?

by LJ Hann on Jan 18, 2012 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Kobe is a smoke screen for them...

I hate him, but he’s a great player that helps his teammates. But it’s more like his play helps them get open and free up the court. You might not agree with me, but when Fisher left to GSW and Utah, he was really a nobody. Until he came back, Kobe made him relevant as a player again.

by Hengtime81 on Jan 18, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Kobe also has the ability to make his teammates far less significant.

I agree, he can attract a lot of attention to free up the court, but so can ANY great shooter. I think Kobe is a great player (he is the 2nd best in history in my opinion) but he isn’t quite the “team player.” Yes, he spreads the court and he can give other’s better looks, the question is how often does he actually give them better looks. And the answer is simple, not often enough.

by SurfinQ00 on Jan 18, 2012 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree..

I just think Kobe’s presence around these players like Morris, Brown, Sasha, etc makes them more visible when they do something good.

by Hengtime81 on Jan 18, 2012 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

How? He was such a GREAT player?

Do you remember those 2 free throws he iced the finals with.. and…. and…. his… ? Yeah, I got nothing.

by SurfinQ00 on Jan 18, 2012 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you remember...

when he cried on the bench and slapped a chair during the Finals?

by Hengtime81 on Jan 18, 2012 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty sure Fish is still a nobody

Just that Kobe is the only star in the entire league that trusts him to do anything, and since Kobe gets what Kobe wants, Fish gets PT despite being bad for the team.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 18, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

A Nobody but...

probably a HOF because of Kobe. SMH.

by Hengtime81 on Jan 18, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

nooooooo lol

areer averages 8/3… no way

by LJ Hann on Jan 18, 2012 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

You don't think...

He’ll get in because of .3 secs and all of the overrated buzzer beaters?

by Hengtime81 on Jan 18, 2012 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope you're right!

But for some reason I feel he’s going to be voted in.

by Hengtime81 on Jan 18, 2012 6:40 PM PST up reply actions  

.4 seconds

and no. If he does, it will be because he is a players union guy, not cause of his playing

by LJ Hann on Jan 18, 2012 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

My bad...

.4 (before instant replay). He’s a horrible Union President too.

by Hengtime81 on Jan 18, 2012 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Just Curious

Do you have a real, educated opinion on Fisher’s work as Union President? Or do you say this due to the lockout?

I can’t really speak on the matter, as I kind of timed out during the lockout, but I think alot of people speak without knowing.

by LJ Hann on Jan 18, 2012 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone who makes a single bucket on the Lakers gets notice

Remember when Josh Powell walked to the other side of Staples? He was just as crappy as when he was a Clipper, but because he was wearing the purple and gold, people were talking about how he was this exciting and athletic PF prospect after like 1 good game. Then when he consistently sucked, people eventually forgot about him.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 18, 2012 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Please no that didn't go so well part III

If it's negative I don't want to hear it eliminating playa haters with their evil spirits!

by Controversysells on Jan 18, 2012 5:55 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

chris broussard

needs to be made an honorary clipper

by CLIPPERDEAN on Jan 18, 2012 6:08 PM PST reply actions  

Madelyn Burke
Del Negro unhappy about Tuesday at Utah “basically we just wasted a bunch of jet fuel”
Del Negro: “We had a bunch of point guards at the beginning of the season, now were down to our oldest PG playing the most minutes”

by dulciusXasperis on Jan 18, 2012 6:12 PM PST reply actions  

ROFL

VDN should have been a comedian instead of a coach.

by NewCavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, just wow

CP3 for 10 minutes could easily be the difference in this game. I realize we dont want to aggravate the injury, but come on.

by NewCavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

200 comments in a game preview...

Im smelling 1500 (or over) comments total!!

we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.

WHO WANTS A FREE SHARPIE?? -- Blake Griffin

by ClipperBEAST on Jan 18, 2012 6:59 PM PST reply actions  

man marshan Brooks is a beast

We need a player like that for us next year

by KillaClip on Jan 18, 2012 7:10 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Its not like I have a choice lol

I hope Van Gundy and Breen are the commentators

we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.

WHO WANTS A FREE SHARPIE?? -- Blake Griffin

by ClipperBEAST on Jan 18, 2012 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Question

Does espn3 work on an ipad2???

by agolden on Jan 18, 2012 7:31 PM PST reply actions  

I think so

not sure though

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown

by bestclipfan on Jan 18, 2012 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

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