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Clippers 103 - Raptors 91 - Smooth Sailing

After a massive meltdown against the sub .500 Minnesota Timberwolves on Friday, the Los Angeles Clippers were careful to avoid making the same mistake against the visiting Toronto Raptors. With the front court leading the charge, the team came out of the gate running and never let up on the gas. It's good to see that this team is learning and growing after every game, but going forward, the Clippers need to take care of business and do what they are supposed to do; defeat an inferior opponent (especially one that is missing their star player). (box score)

Star-divide

From the get-go the energy level and intensity was established. For a team looking to shed the "Lob City" moniker, they sure aren't helping themselves by starting off the opening possession with a Foye to Blake backdoor lob. DeAndre took the reigns and followed up with a thunderous one handed alley-oop dunk later in the quarter (and another mid court lob with reverse dunk finish by DJ, which will surely be a top 10 ESPN highlight).

Speaking of DeAndre, he was a monster in this game, scoring 16 points, grabbing 16 rebounds and 2 blocks (altering many more). Without Andrea Bargnani, Toronto had no answer for his size, length, athleticism and tenacity. I'm not even convinced the Raptors could have stopped him even with Bargnani. Bargnani would likely be considered the counter to DJ, his ability to step out and spread the floor with a strong jumper would have forced DJ to come out of the key and make it difficult for him to protect the paint and grab rebounds. It doesn't really matter at this point to judge what could have been, the fact is DJ's production in the first quarter alone nearly matched that of the entire opposing team, 10 points and 9 rebounds versus 11 points and 13 rebounds, respectively.

It was good to see the Clippers hustling and keep up their energy on both ends of the court. Their defense looked sharp as they held the Raptors to 36% shooting and forced 18 turnovers. All the credit can't be given to the Clippers, the Raptors are known to be an offensively challenged team and were missing their best scorer. On offense, the Clippers played unselfishly, seemed to move the ball wall and made 49% of their shot attempts against the second highest rated defense in the league. Even better, this is all without Chris Paul (who thankfully should be back in the lineup against the Lakers on Wednesday).

Individual observations and notes:

Blake Griffin - Despite not having his normal productivity reflected in the box score, it was good to see him continuing to hustle regardless of how many touches he got. One of my favorite plays of the night wasn't a lob or dunk, it was when Blake poked the ball away, chased it down and dove ahead of the Raptors player to grab it. When one of your best players is hustling like that, the rest of the team has no excuse to let up.

Mo Williams - I have to think that if Mo hadn't been ejected from the Minnesota game, the Clippers would have won. He was brilliant against the Raptors. Where Jordan dominated the first quarter, Mo dominated the end of the third and entire fourth. Nearly all of the Clippers points came from Mo in the fourth quarter. Mo is scoring a point per minute since his return to the lineup. Hopefully he will continue to embrace being the instant offense, sixth man.

Chauncey Billups - He didn't shoot well, but found other ways to contribute. He had a season high 14 assists, highlighted with a sweet over the head no look pass to a cutting Foye. I like Chauncey the facilitator.

Caron Butler - Another steady night from Caron. The Clippers clearly need him as a steadying, consistent contributor on the floor.

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Yay Clippers!

Niner game a snooze though… hopefully it heats up in the second half

by shay on Jan 22, 2012 5:02 PM PST reply actions  

Clippers go 3-2 this week

Although that Minnesota game was like a shot to the balls, going 3-2 without Chris Paul is not too shabby. Butler was also missing from 1 game and Mo got ejected from 1 also. Hopefully CP comes back rested and healthy for the 3 games next week. If our only win next week is against the Lakers I’ll take that.

by lbclips on Jan 22, 2012 5:25 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Great energy from the start---that's more I like it.

Fun crowd once again—look forward to the day when Fakers get the early games. I hate walking back to car and seeing those stupid fans.

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by Clipperoo on Jan 22, 2012 5:31 PM PST reply actions  

I don't mind it so much these days

When we’d lost then it was a painful walk. But seeing them knowing “you better win tonight to keep pace with the Clippers” is a warming thought.

by Thretch on Jan 22, 2012 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

True -I like how ya think :)

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by Clipperoo on Jan 22, 2012 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Never gonna happen
look forward to the day when Fakers get the early games

Lakers are the primary tenant, so they get 1st choice. Clippers get 3rd pick of dates/times behind the Lakers and the Kings.

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by boltsfan21 on Jan 22, 2012 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Are they?

I thought it was Kings, Lakers, then Clippers?

by Final692 on Jan 22, 2012 11:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Kings, Lakers, then Clippers?

I’m in no position to judge, but why the heck would they give priority to hockey over Lakers? Maybe hockey over Clippers from history, but over the beloved Los Angeles golden childs? That’s has to be mind boggling.

"Things change when something is taken away from you" -BG32

by JackduhSun on Jan 23, 2012 2:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Again, you could be right

just thinking how odd that is to give priority to a team even when their own city/ country doesn’t give a jack about the sport.

"Things change when something is taken away from you" -BG32

by JackduhSun on Jan 23, 2012 2:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Kings are tenent number 1

Staples was built for the Kings by AEG. That’s why the seats are black and purple…don’t let Laker fans fool you, its not their arena, its the Kings. The Lakers and Clips didn’t come on board til the arena was almost open.

by lbclips on Jan 23, 2012 4:16 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Because the same guy who owns Staples Center owns the Kings

by Michael White on Jan 23, 2012 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

That being said, I actually think boltsfan is right. It’s not as though AEG just picks who they like the most and they get the preferred scheduling; rather the teams pay for that right. Lakers pay the most, then the Kings, then the Clippers, so that’s the scheduling priority.*

Note*: I have no proof of this, just what I’ve heard.

by Michael White on Jan 23, 2012 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

From the Times

http://articles.latimes.com/1998/apr/17/news/mn-40289

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by boltsfan21 on Jan 23, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I've heard this too

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 23, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

But then they lost

So your walk back to the car > their walk back to the car. Plus you get an afternoon to celebrate the victory, while they stay up late with night sweats trying to forget about yet another loss…

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 23, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Strange opponent

Not much to be afraid of. But when I saw their second unit of Barbosa and Kleiza, wow they’re better than the starters.

It’s strange to see a team with starters like Calderon and James Johnson (though JJ killed us last year once) and think “are they really NBA starters”, then I realize we probably had a similar team many times (in opponents’ fans perspective).

Lastly … Bayless. Not bad, but remember many were lobbying to draft him rather than EJ. That would have been sad.

by Thretch on Jan 22, 2012 6:09 PM PST reply actions  

Bayless bleh

The guy’s stats aren’t that bad, but you just see him out there looking for his own shot and bailing out our defense every time he does a pretty little crossover-jumper that almost never goes in. He offsets this by being relatively effective attacking the rim and using his athleticism and hesitation moves to get the line, but overall he’s just not really good enough to ever start anywhere. Decent bench guy, though.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 23, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Reggie Evans and Jones are good, defensively that is

Offensively they are a black hole, but hey this will do now! Also, did anyone notice how much Reggie screams during offensive sets. He screams and holds his hands in the air? I assume its to distract our opponents defense, but I mean if he gets the ball there isn’t much he can do

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by Jayq on Jan 22, 2012 6:34 PM PST reply actions  

not black holes

just non-factors. black whole is a player who is like a ball stopper, just inside. For example, when ZBO was on the Clips he rarely passed out of the post.

by LJ Hann on Jan 22, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah thats what I meant

"Every existing thing is born without reason, prolongs itself out of weakness, and dies by chance" -Jean-Paul Sarte

by Jayq on Jan 22, 2012 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Give Mo the credit

Yes, DeAndre had a big afternoon, and the Clips got off to a nice start and held onto control. But Mo has had 3 amazing games in a row and he needs to get the headline here. Amazingly he scored the Clips first 17 points in the 4th (I think—it might have been 14, but who’s counting). His 3 25+ games off the bench, and his shooting touch and energy have been nothing less than phenomenal.

In the first game his work was overshadowed by Billups hitting a winning 3. Then he took himself out of the Wolves game, and I completely agree: if not for that big mistake, the Clips would have won that game.

All of this without Chris Paul, and Randy Foye taking on big minutes. Billups is already used to coming out halfway through the first and giving way to Mo. He’ll pick up Foye minutes with Paul coming back.

Mo is doing an amazing job this season. This is going to be fun.

by citizen zhiv on Jan 22, 2012 7:57 PM PST reply actions  

Totally agree

Mo has been beasting. Only thing I disagree with is the notion of his taking himself out of the Wolves game. The refs took him out of the Wolves game. It was a horrible call, and then the ref stared Mo down like he was waiting for the slightest provocation to T him up. Yes, in a perfect world he should’ve kept his mouth shut, but I find it really hard to blame him for that one.

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by boltsfan21 on Jan 22, 2012 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Mo looks like a little kid when he goes

“That’s bullshit man.. that’s bullshit” to the refs. Hahaha

"Things change when something is taken away from you" -BG32

by JackduhSun on Jan 23, 2012 2:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I love reading players' lips when they yell things

My favorite was when Foye made some huge shot forcing the other team to call a TO, and CP3 was on the bench and walked out onto the court yelling, “THERE YOU GO MOTHA F***IN FOYE.” It was great.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 23, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

That's awesome

I say MOTHA F***IN FOYE a lot during games too, but not in a good way.

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by boltsfan21 on Jan 23, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha yesssss

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by Erik O on Jan 23, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

LOLOL +1

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by Newton Pham on Jan 23, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Milph was saying 17 straight points

That’s LeBron-esque!

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by Erik O on Jan 23, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha

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by Erik O on Jan 23, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

And Solomon Jones

Worth noting that Jones played 23 minutes. Not much going on in the boxscore, but he looked fine out there. Nothing personal against Brian Cook, who will have a chance at some point to hoist up some more shots, and if he hits them he might find some minutes, but the Jones-Evans 4/5 combo looks much more stout and solid than the backups that the Clips had out there at the beginning of the season. Jones did fine in the rotation minutes, and then got more run as the DJ and Griffin never got off the bench in the 4th.

Just noting Jayq’s comment up above, as LJH adds to it. The point is that Jones and Evans playing D, protecting the rim and rebounding and not looking for shots, means that there are more looks for guys like Mo and Billups and Butler, and even Foye, who can make them. Cook taking shots and missing so many of them, while being a defensive and rebounding liability, was a big weak point. Evans is a big positive addition, as we all know, but Jones is doing okay with the minutes he has seen, and that could be a nice improvement as well.

by citizen zhiv on Jan 22, 2012 8:08 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Wow, totally opposite of what I saw

If you watch closely, Jones is really, really bad at defending the pick and roll. He starts double-teaming the guard even if the screen doesn’t come, and then gets stuck in no man’s land while his man rolls straight to the hole. It often looks like someone else’s fault, because other guys are scrambling to pick up his man, which leaves shooters open on the wings. But if you watch from the beginning of the play, it’s obvious he was the problem.

On top of that, for a guy his size, he’s a pretty dreadful rebounder. Saw him standing flat-footed on a couple of occasions, not even going up for a ball he might’ve been able to get to. Seems to have really slow reflexes/reaction time, and doesn’t make up for it by getting a body on a guy, either.

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by boltsfan21 on Jan 22, 2012 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotta agree on his defense

but he’s no worse than Cook as a defender or rebounder. If he isn’t taking and missing shots, he doesn’t hurt us there so long as the 2nd unit guards are scoring.

I actually think Solomon can be a serviceable offensive threat. Small sample size since he’s been here, but he showed soft hands in catching and converting the +1 against Minny, and his career FT numbers suggest a decent stroke. He sunk 10 footer after the whistle today, but he’s clearly being coached to be solely a screener and never faces the basket when he has the ball.

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by ganima on Jan 22, 2012 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure

Yeah, he might be struggling to defend the pick and roll. That would disqualify him from being a solid defender across the board. Maybe if he gets minutes he will get better. Not sure that Cook is any better.

And as far as protecting the rim and playing defense in the post and the paint, it’s not even close. The length of Jones and his focus on the defensive end is night and day compared to Cook. You can tell that Jones’ one notable basketball skill is hanging back around the basket and protecting the paint, an old fashioned 5. He doesn’t have great rebounding instincts, but the length helps him, and he’s playing beside Evans.

Probably need more minutes to be able to judge, and to give him things to work on. But the DNP for Cook is one of the best and biggest headlines as far as team progress goes. Let’s see if Jones can help out.

by citizen zhiv on Jan 23, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

PnR defense

Cook is a lot better at this… he usually does a really lazy hedge and almost body checks the guard, but he somehow never gets called for a foul and always recovers well. Help D, though, Cook is useless—-he just sends people to the line every time. Jones is slightly less useless, but only because he’s taller and is enough to scare off weaker scorers. Rebounding, while he does remain flat footed a lot, he’s always there under the hoop on offense giving us a chance at a rebound (which is fine because our 2nd string almost exclusively jump shoots, so clogging the paint is not a problem), and as a result he has had a few tap outs. Cook, on the other hand, spends the entire offensive possession roaming the 3-point line. And the other bonus is that unlike Cook, Jones usually passes to the more efficient scorers on offense. He’s really not any kind of a threat, but he looks like he can maybe knock down the 15 footer pretty consistently (based on watching him in shoot-arounds and when he shoots on a dead ball—-I’ve never seen him shoot in a game). In general, I just like Solomon’s attitude a lot more too, for whatever that’s worth.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 23, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed pretty much on all counts

Except the attitude thing, since I can’t say I’ve ever had a problem with Cookie’s attitude. My only real beef (in general, not with you) is the constant talking up of the crappy players we don’t know over the crappy players we do know. First it was Trey, until most folks saw enough minutes from him to know better, and now it’s Jones. There’s a reason Jones hasn’t gotten any real run in his 5 previous NBA seasons: He sucks. Does he suck less than Cook? I personally don’t think he sucks any less; he just sucks differently. Both can probably be a tiny bit useful for this team this year; neither should be playing rotation minutes on a team with title aspirations.

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by boltsfan21 on Jan 23, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel you on that

We definitely do talk up the other crappy players with a “grass is greener” mentality, and sometimes it goes too far.

But why should we accept one C-level talent when at least we have an unknown factor in either Trey or Solomon? Could they possibly be worse than Cook and his negative PER this year? Trey is currently a C-level talent as we’ve seen him (though he could turn out to be better, that’s a couple years down the road), and Solomon has already proven that he’s a C-level talent. This we know, but perhaps Trey starts developing sooner? Or perhaps Solomon has better chemistry with the team than Cook? There isn’t much to lose by giving those unknowns a shot. That’s when I have the “grass is greener” mentality, only because the grass on Cookie’s lawn is completely dead. (Holy crap, now that I look at it, he basically cancels out an average player’s wins produced per WS/48… uncharacteristically bad for Cookie.)

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by Erik O on Jan 23, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but this year's sample size is ridiculously small

Cook sucks in many ways, but usually he can knock down some shots. Sure he’s got a negative PER now, but c’mon, that’s in 90 freakin’ minutes. His PER last year was 11.6. Career is over 13 (but of course that’s skewed by his first few years). The guy’s a 39% 3-ball shooter for his career, and hit 43% (!) of them last year. Eventually he’ll revert to the mean and start knocking down shots, so I can’t agree with the notion that the grass there is completely dead.

Jones, meanwhile, has a career PER around 10 and isn’t significantly better on the boards /36-wise or TRB%-wise (better on O glass, worse on D glass). That would presumably make his lone advantage defense, but from what I’ve seen he’s not really any better on D than Cook either. Sure he’s long and blocks a few shots, but it’s not like people are scared to challenge him; he’s a slow leaper and is too much of a stick figure to intimidate. To my mind, Cook’s a C- or D+, Jones is a straight-up D.

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by boltsfan21 on Jan 23, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I know, that's why I said uncharacteristically bad (i.e. the grass is dead right now, not forever... not salted earth)

But when the 9th guy on your bench is having a slump, it’s perfectly acceptable to want to try out alternatives. It’s not worth waiting for a very unproductive guy to become slightly less unproductive.

You must be seeing something about Cook’s defense that I’m not seeing. He is a complete doormat around the rim. Either he’s a step behind, or they just go right at him and know that A) they are going to get fouled, or B) he won’t do anything. Solomon gets a block here and there enough that guys don’t aggressively go at him like they do with Cook.

Mind you, I’m going completely off of what we’re seeing this season, and this season Solomon is playing better than Cook ever has as a Clipper. He’s playing with a 101 defensive rating (to Cook’s 107 and 104). His win shares are above average at 0.127 versus Cook’s 0.064 and the aforementioned 0.102. PER says Cook was playing better last year than Jones is this year, but only marginally so. I’m not trying to paint some rosy picture of Jones, but I really don’t see any evidence statistically or otherwise that Cook is a C or D+ to Jones’ D.

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by Erik O on Jan 23, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Note to self... put a space after the negative sign...

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by Erik O on Jan 23, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess the reason I give those grades is

Cook has one “plus” skill (39% career 3-PT shooter), while Jones does nothing better than average for a guy at his position. Any stats you can put out there for Jones-as-a-Clipper are obviously meaningless, given the sample size, so I’m relying on career numbers as well as the eye test. I just don’t see Jones providing much of anything, while Cook can contribute with the otherwise offensively challenged 2nd unit once he gets his shot back.

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by boltsfan21 on Jan 23, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I see

I cannot say that Jones has any “plus” skills. But without that one thing, Cook’s pretty lame. That’s what I was comparing Jones to, and that’s not really fair to Cook… but is it worth it to wait for Cook’s one “plus” skill to normalize?

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by Erik O on Jan 23, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Solomon almost got all of his playing time in garbage time

playing his position. Cook played out of position and in non-garbage time. Anyway, look at Cook’s stats from last year and you can’t deny you’d love Trey to post these kind of numbers next season =)

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by BelgianClipper on Jan 24, 2012 7:37 AM PST up reply actions  

True

But then why would we continue to play a guy who is forced to play out of position and it’s screwing up his stats? This is the mistake we made with Gomes.

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by Erik O on Jan 24, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we hate the idea of Cook, not Cook himself

He isn’t athletic, he is as un-Lobcity as they come. He isn’t going to improve significantly. And when ever he plays he’ll remind people that our bench is thin or that someone better is out with an injury.

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by BelgianClipper on Jan 24, 2012 7:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Or to put it another way

When I watch Solomon Jones, I am reminded of Keith Closs.

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by boltsfan21 on Jan 23, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you Pacers!

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by Clipperoo on Jan 22, 2012 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Caron looked downright sprightly today

Rest did him some good.

Remembers when you could buy a nosebleed ticket at the Sports Arena and end up courtside.

by ganima on Jan 22, 2012 8:58 PM PST reply actions  

+1

He makes a huge difference for this team. Does so many things well.

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by boltsfan21 on Jan 22, 2012 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

His dunk was bad ass!!!

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by Jayq on Jan 22, 2012 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Link to the Pacers-Lakers game

Pacers up by 1 and they have the ball 9 seconds left in the game

http://www.firstrow.tv/watch/103700/2/watch-los-angeles-lakers-vs-indiana-pacers.html

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by ClipperBEAST on Jan 22, 2012 9:00 PM PST reply actions  

Game over!! Pacers win!!

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by ClipperBEAST on Jan 22, 2012 9:05 PM PST reply actions  

Well, a pretty good day for me in sports

Clippers win, Niners lose, and Lakers lose. Goodnight guys, and get better soon CP3.

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by ClipperBEAST on Jan 22, 2012 9:09 PM PST reply actions  

If I'm not mistaken, the Laker loss puts them in 9th or 10th spot

If so we would be the only team from the Pacific Division in the top 8.

by shay on Jan 22, 2012 9:11 PM PST reply actions  

As of this moment

Lakers are 10th. Bwhahahahahaha!

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by boltsfan21 on Jan 22, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

haha

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by Erik O on Jan 23, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Lakers lost!!!

They are now 10th in the conference. We’ve gotta sink them on Wednesday. Hopefully Chris Paul will be back, DJ will be just as dominant, Blake will be in his best day, and Mo will keep striking deadly. Go Clippers!! “Let’s get it!” (from Reggie)

by kikyexcel on Jan 22, 2012 9:36 PM PST reply actions  

Did anyone just hear Ron Artest's stupid comments after the game?

He’s such an idiot!

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by Clipperoo on Jan 22, 2012 9:38 PM PST reply actions  

I don't think he was stupid.

He was a bit off because he didn’t want to say anything bad mouthing the Clippers. He obviously is smarter than Bynum who just runs his mouth off during interviews. And his whole, “CP3 is the jack” I think he just forgot about him and was like, Oh crap, gotta mention him! haha

by SurfinQ00 on Jan 22, 2012 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he was out of it

tough loss and obviously an emothional team meeting afterwards. doubt he was in the mood to talk

by LJ Hann on Jan 22, 2012 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, he played well.

But still, I think he has learned that you have to think before you speak, he just isn’t the quickest thinker… haha

by SurfinQ00 on Jan 22, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Not exact but:

Reporter: What do you think of the Clippers Lakers game?
Peace: Well, um, it’s going to be a fun game. The Clippers are good and they have a lot of fans. Blake Griffin is good, I mean, Kobe is the King still, but Griffin is the prince, pause and Chris Paul is the Jack. (It seems like he overlooked Paul)

by SurfinQ00 on Jan 22, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't take it personally

strictly because it’s Ron Artest. How do you take the guy personally?

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by JackduhSun on Jan 23, 2012 2:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Metta is usually pretty respectful with his words

and do not see anything wrong with what he said. He is the same guy that said last year he hopes to get posterized by Blake.

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by PV Mike on Jan 23, 2012 7:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Um....
How do you take the guy personally?

Because he abuses animals and beats people up in the stands?

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by boltsfan21 on Jan 23, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

But other than that Mr. Boltsfan, how was the basketball game?

by Michael White on Jan 23, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Literally. I literally laughed out loud.

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by boltsfan21 on Jan 23, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't exactly know how you can criticize this guy.

We all know that he has made some mistakes, but he is the first one to admit that he is unbalanced. He isn’t using that as an excuse for his actions; rather, he is using it as a reason to improve. His strides in personality have been apparent seeing as he went from a Crowd Brawler to a man who holds the J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award. You bring up his animal abuse issue, but he was never charged. I won’t go out and say he didn’t neglect to feed his animal, but yet again, he has made amends for it, in this case, advocating to spay and neuter pets for PETA. All in all, I don’t see why you will label him as something when he has done everything right to get better. It seems as though he has acknowledged instability, and he is slowly and steadily progressing. So please, before you go out and start attacking someone who has proven to be a good guy, think about what you have to say. Yet again, you are starting a controversy were no controversy is needed.

by SurfinQ00 on Jan 23, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm starting a controversy?

Vis-a-vis a Ron Artest? I’m pretty sure he started any and all controversies himself by going into the stands to beat the crap out of a fan.

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Now living the good life in Lob City, CA.

by boltsfan21 on Jan 24, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I have praise for this man and you are trying to make him seem like a terrible person.

And say all you want, as a Clipper fan, you should know that the past is the past. Things change, and so has Ron. He also apologized to the fan in person and stated he wanted to travel with him. Please, don’t call out someone who has proven to be more of a role model than 70% of the otehr NBA players.

by SurfinQ00 on Jan 24, 2012 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Metta World Peace post game quote about Clips vs Lakers-

“Kobe’s the king, Blake’s the prince, Cp’s the jack”

by cassellmania on Jan 22, 2012 9:38 PM PST reply actions  

Stu already making excuses

“This loss will have a big effect on the Lakers’ physce(spelled wrong, I’m tired) and I wouldn’t be surprised to see them come out without much energy and start slow Wednesday against the Clippers.”

by LJ Hann on Jan 22, 2012 9:47 PM PST reply actions  

Doesn't that do the opposite?

Especially in a game like this where the media hypes it up as “battle of LA”

by Final692 on Jan 22, 2012 11:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if you misread it Final, but

It said WITHOUT much energy. He is basically saying that they won’t be a very driven team and that may cause them to lose.

by SurfinQ00 on Jan 23, 2012 1:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Went to Game today. Very Fun

Was really depressed about Minny loss still and finally about over it with today’s great win and reading the forum. I agree with everything said about Mo and Caron and DJ. Blake may not be the player I once thought he was though, but it’s almost ok on this team. His hustle and heart and athleticism is top notch though and hopefully he can improve on his weaker traits.

One thing I want to add is the team’s camaraderie and trust going on. Really fun to watch and so key in making a run in this league. I was so not excited about Mo going into this year and wasn’t that knowledgeable or stoked on Caron but both have won me over 10x over. Cheers.

by herbdavey on Jan 22, 2012 10:26 PM PST reply actions  

CLIPPERS,

GOOD JOB !!!1

:D CLIPS FTW!!!

by clips_ftw on Jan 22, 2012 10:57 PM PST reply actions  

Congrats on your new born child

best wishes to you and your family for your gift. Cherish the moment and your time with them, my Belgian brother. Although I have no kids of my own, my little cousins and nephews grow up quicker than I can remember. Pretty soon, your beautiful daughter would be off to college! Haha.

"Things change when something is taken away from you" -BG32

by JackduhSun on Jan 23, 2012 2:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Congratulations!

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown

by bestclipfan on Jan 23, 2012 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Congrats!

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Now living the good life in Lob City, CA.

by boltsfan21 on Jan 23, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

That is awesome news!

Congratulations!

Formerly Newtybar. Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!

by Newton Pham on Jan 23, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice! Congratulations :)

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Jan 23, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Awesome! Congrats!

"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.

by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jan 23, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Your lucky daughter might grow up in a world

where she has no idea about the bad clippers stigma.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown

by bestclipfan on Jan 23, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Going ok but the FT's will come to haunt us

Blake and a few others have to get better at FT’s or it will cost us when the big games come around

by kirbs on Jan 23, 2012 6:21 AM PST reply actions  

Yup

The thing with Griffin is very troubling. He should be leading the way and demanding excellence and improvement from Jordan and Evans, and instead he has been wallowing in free throw despair and degradation.

by citizen zhiv on Jan 23, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

It's mental

I think he’ll be better soon. You see him incorporating a lot of new stuff into his repertoire and it is not uncommon that some other stuff suffers a bit of a blow-back in the short term(does that sentence makes any sense in English? Too lazy to look it up) .

Your capslock is stuck, please buy a new keyboard

by BelgianClipper on Jan 24, 2012 7:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Free throw despair..

are there stats on how players free throw percentage increased as their career progressed? I played a little bit (way back) and I pretty much stayed the same and never got better, or good for that matter. It may not be Blake’s strong point but his overall game is great and also full of intangibles not found in raw stats.

by rouse77 on Jan 23, 2012 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

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