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Clippers at Denver - Game Preview

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10-6

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Pepsi Center
January 29th, 2012, 5:00 PM
FSN Prime Ticket, KFWB 980 AM
Probable starters:
Chris Paul
PG Ty Lawson
Chauncey Billups SG Arron Afflalo
Caron Butler
SF Danilo Gallinari
Blake Griffin
PF Nene
DeAndre Jordan
C Timofey Mozgov

The Back Story:

First meeting of the season. The teams split four games last season, with each winning on their home court.

The Big Picture:

The Clippers are 10-6 on the season. But of those 16 games, only five of them have been on the road (and one of those was in LA against the Lakers). Five road games is the fewest of any team in the NBA, and more importantly, the 28 they have yet to play is the most. So there's that. The fact that the team is 1-4 in those five games is not good, but it's not a huge concern, given the quality of the opponents in those losses. Unfortunately, that logic doesn't bode well for tonight, against the 14-5 Nuggets, who are 7-2 in the mile high altitude. There is some good news though. The Clippers should be well rested for this game, coming off two days of rest. There is also reason to believe that the team will be hitting peak form at some point in the near future -- they looked great in wins over the Heat and Lakers two weeks ago, before Chris was injured his hamstring. In the two games since his return, Paul has not shot well. Hopefully after a couple of games and two more days of practice, he's getting the rust off and the team will start firing on all cylinders again. They looked great for a quarter against Memphis on Thursday, but even that was more about hot shooting than super shard execution. So the team's best basketball is still ahead of them, but hopefully not too far away.

Star-divide

The Antagonist:

A year ago, the Nuggets starters featured Kenyon Martin, Carmelo Anthony and Chauncey Billups, and J.R. Smith was the sixth man. Now Anthony is in New York, Billups is with the Clippers, Smith is in China and Martin is waiting until February 15th to be a free agent after signing with and then leaving a Chinese team. The new Nuggets are challenging the conventional NBA wisdom that every team must be built around a star. The Nuggets were built around Anthony for years, and while the made the playoffs in each of the seven seasons he was in Denver, they also lost in the first round in six of those seasons. The conventional wisdom was that Denver would have to take pennies on the dollar to trade Anthony last season before he became a free agent and left for nothing -- but instead they've got Danilo Gallinari and Timofey Mozgov starting on the team with the second best record in the west, along with Andre Miller (who they got in exchange for Raymond Felton) playing a key reserve role. It goes against everything we thought we knew about building an NBA winner, but somehow the Nuggets are making it work. Instead of relying on one or two stars to carry them night in and night out, the Nuggets play 10 guys and spread the scoring around to whichever five are on the floor at any one time. The 2003-2004 Detroit Pistons are the only team in the last 30 years to win a title without a bona fide superstar, MVP candidate player -- the Nuggets are trying to replicate that formula, but it's not easy to do.

The Subplots

  • Losing streak in Denver. The Clippers haven't won in Denver in five full seasons. The last time they won a regular season game there was in January of 2006. They also won a playoff game a few months later. But it's been one empty trip to the Mile High City after another since then.
  • RPI. A quarter of the way through the 66 game schedule, teams have played unbalanced schedules, which makes it tough to just look at their records and analyze their relative strength. The Clippers home friendly schedule so far for instance may have inflated their 10-6 record. On the other hand, the Clippers have played a very difficult schedule so far, which has likely depressed their record. One way that people try to normalize for these schedule difference is using the RPI, or ratings percentage index. It's borrowed from NCAA basketball, where of necessity teams play very different schedules. In the NBA, eventually the schedule balances out a lot (though less so this year with the 66 game schedule). The RPI uses 25% of the team's record, plus 50% of their opponents' cumulative record, plus 25% of their opponents' opponents' cumulative record to come up with a winning percentage that reflects the strength of the opposition. Through games of Friday night, the Clippers had the second highest RPI in the NBA behind only Oklahoma City.
  • Hot team. In their last game the Clippers played a Grizzlies team that had won seven of eight coming in. The Nuggets have won six straight and eight of nine. The Clippers just can't get a break in terms of opponents. Oh, and their next three games after this are against Oklahoma City, at Utah and against these Nuggets again. Sheesh.
  • Soft schedule so far for Denver. Unlike the Clippers who have played some of the toughest opponents in the NBA so far, the Nuggets have had probably the easiest slate of any Western conference team. Of the six victims in their current winning streak, five had losing records. All told, they've played 10 games against sub-.500 teams -- the Clippers have played just five.
  • Twice in a week. The Clippers and Nuggets face each other twice this week, tonight and then again on Thursday. The Clippers have two games in the interim, the Nuggets just one.
  • Start of tough stretch. These next four will be difficult not just because of the tough competition, but also because the Clippers have four games in five days, two sets of back to backs. And of course the schedule makers couldn't have them go from Denver to Utah (a one hour flight) and then play the next two games back to back in LA. No no. That would make too much sense and save too much jet fuel. Nope, the Clippers go from Denver to LA to Utah to LA. So the next time the Clippers play the Nuggets, they'll be at home, but on the second game of a back to back with travel, AND on their fourth game in five nights. This could be a very tough week.
  • Rested for this one. Although they are entering a very tough stretch both in terms of opponents and travel and game frequency, for tonight the Clippers should be well rested and well prepared. They've had two days off since their Thursday night win over Memphis. One wonders, in this situation, if it would be worth it to fly to Denver a day early to acclimate to the altitude an extra day. A Saturday practice for a Sunday game at altitude would probably make a big difference. As far as I know, they did not do that.
  • The return of Bledsoe. Eric Bledsoe has begun practicing with the team, and just completed a rehab stint in the D-League with the Bakersfield Jam. In two games with the Jam he racked up 25 points and 17 assists in just 42 total minutes. It's also worth noting that the last time the Clippers played the Nuggets, Bledsoe had one of his best games as a pro, scoring 15 of his 20 points in the fourth quarter to go along with 7 steals. He'll be in uniform against the Nuggets tonight, but it remains to be seen how many minutes he can get in the crowded Clipper backcourt.
  • Our old pal Andre Miller. Andre Miller was the point guard for a Clippers team that had high expectations back in 02-03. He was supposed to be the team leader for an extremely talented group, but he moped his way through by far the worst year of his career and the team imploded around him. As if that wasn't enough to make Clipper fans hate him, he then blindsided Blake Griffin with a safety blitz style hit in a game in Portland last year. Keep an eye out for extracurricular activity whenever he's in the vicinity of Griffin tonight.
  • Our old pal Al Harrington. Al Harrington will forever be remembered in Clips Nation for the two wins he handed the Clippers in 08-09 when he was a New York Knick. I'm sure you all recall how in two separate games, Harrington was hit with a technical foul for hanging on the rim in the final seconds. In each case, Harrington's juvenile mistake was a vital element of a last second Clippers comeback. Harrington is having a season that can only be described as an outlier. In his 13th year in the league, he has shot less than 45% on his career, with a career high 47.5% a decade ago. He's shooting 52% so far this season. His true shooting percentage is currently over 60%, while he's never been as high as 55% for a season in any full season. Bottom line is that Al Harrington has always been a low efficiency scorer, and suddenly this season he has become hyper efficient. That's over 19 games, and he'll certainly regress to the mean at some point, but it's been a remarkable season for him so far.
  • Stars versus non-stars. The Clippers will start four former All Stars in this game, and bring a fifth former All Star off the bench. The Nuggets on the other hand do not have an All Star on their roster. Nene has been in the All Star conversation in his career, and Gallinari and Lawson may have All Star games in their future, but for now it's just another indication of the way this team is built on balance.
  • Balance. About that balance: the Nuggets have six players averaging double figures, with the highest being Gallinari at less than 18 a game. In fact, they have 8 players averaging between 8 and 18. I don't have to look anything up to know that they're the only If one bothers to get off one's proverbial butt and look something up, one sees that they're one of two teams in the league that can say that. Philadelphia has eight players between 9 and 16. Hat tip to citizen d2s4ui1 for catching my mistake there.
  • Lawson hurting. Nuggets point guard Ty Lawson, their second leading scorer, missed Friday's win against Toronto with a sprained left ankle. Lawson told Chris Dempsey of the Denver Post that he plans to play tonight.
  • Billups in Denver. Chauncey Billups will be playing in Denver tonight for the first time since being traded away as part of the Carmelo Anthony deal. Billups is a Colorado native, who played his college ball in Boulder and had wanted to retire as a Nugget. He'll no doubt receive a very warm welcome upon his return to Denver, where he played four seasons in two different stints. Billups was part of the Denver team that went to the Western Conference finals, they're deepest playoff run since the mid 80s.
  • Matchups. It's hard to figure how the matchups will go tonight. For one thing, you never quite know how George Karl will distribute minutes among the 10 or 11 guys in his rotation. Nene will begin the game defending Griffin, which could give Blake trouble. Few players have the combination of size and quickness to contend with Griffin, but Nene comes close. Caron Butler will need to take the very talented Gallinari as seriously as he would Kobe Bryant. Afflalo is a big guard who will be a handful for Billups, But the key matchup will be Lawson versus Chris Paul. CP3 probably needs to dominate that matchup for the Clippers to win tonight.
  • Rest days. We've stated over and over and over that the Clippers would eventually have to pay for the relatively few games they've played to this point. Well, it's time to get out the check book, because the bill is coming due. The two days of rest the Clippers just had, Friday and Saturday? That was the seventh such break they've had in slightly over a month. Not counting the All Star break, they'll get one more such break the entire remainder of the season, and that one comes in April, between games 63 and 64. Great news for fans who don't like to wait too long between games. Bad news for tired players and coaches who need time to prep for opponents.
  • How do you say "Not you again!" in Russian? Denver got both Mozgov and Gallinari from the Knicks in the Carmelo trade. Of course, Blake Griffin famously dunked on both of them when they were with the Knicks last season. The verb 'Mozgov' has since entered the NBA lexicon.
  • From the Urban Dictionary:

    nugget

    An extremely attractive female.

    Dude, that blonde chick is such a nugget...you should go talk to her.

  • Get the Nuggets perspective at Denver Stiffs.

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Finally we get some Clippers basketball.

Let’s break another streak tonight. Hopefully Chauncey takes his old team to school. It’s his hometown game so he’ll sure try to.

by chrisd on Jan 29, 2012 2:17 AM PST reply actions  

MOZGOV IS STARTING?!?!?! WATCH OUT, DENVER!!!!

by ILL Eagle on Jan 29, 2012 2:28 AM PST reply actions  

We have yet to see

Cliipers beat a quality team on the road. What a nice test this is. Im so looking forward to it

by arman martikian on Jan 29, 2012 2:47 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

They have also played at places extremely difficult to win.

Utah and Portland are merely difficult to beat because of their crowd. Spurs are experienced and they are extremely difficult to beat at home also. The Laker loss was the fluke in all of this… We should have won, but the Lakers obviously came out to win.

by SurfinQ00 on Jan 29, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I would like how the nuggets have been playing, without a star

if it weren’t for Andre Miller. Gosh I can’t stand that guy, what’s his deal? When he was with the clips, he totally moped for being on “the clippers” and didn’t even look at the talent around him. He was just unhappy with the name on the jersey, totally the opposite of CP3. His comments after spearing Blake were just intolerable, and then he’s coming out this year complaining about playing behind Ty, even though he’s the future of the franchise? Seems like he’s fallen into line a bit after making those comments, but still, I don’t understand what that guy is thinking.

Think they’ve been playing Lawson and Miller together, similar to the Clips 2 PG backcourt, so that should be an interesting matchup.

by osamu on Jan 29, 2012 3:00 AM PST reply actions  

to be fair to Andre Miller

When he was with the Clippers, that was almost 10 years ago (I know, it’s been that long). Andre was the least of our problems back then (See: Odom, Miles, Dooling, Kandi, Q). Andre’s game has evolved quite a lot since the Clippers days. He’s one of the most under-appreciated pure point guards in the league and I’ve always liked his game.

I don’t like what he did to Blake last year but I don’t blame him. I like the fact that he still has competitive fire and sticks up for his teammates.

No, it's the Clip Show!

by dan73962 on Jan 29, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Just to clear

He wasn’t sticking up for his teammates. He was retaliating for something Blake did to him.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 29, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

well miles was traded for Miller

and Odom, Maggette and Brand I thought formed one of the better Clippers rosters and should’ve been playoff contenders. I don’t specifically remember much about that season, but I just remember it being disappointing to say the least.

I agree that Miller is an underrated PG and probably would like his game, if it weren’t for some of the thing he says and does, but I’ve never really considered him someone that sticks up for his teammates. I don’t want to start a controversy with the blake situation again, since I remember most of the portland fans were proud of Miller for what he did to blake, but yea, he was just throwing a hissy fit for being pushed around by blake when going for some rebounds under the basket.

by osamu on Jan 29, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Almost everytime I watch Miller play he does well.

But there has to be more issues that surround him to be traded so often. He does seem aloof and does not talk to his teammates much on or off the floor (ask MILPH).
Strange dude.

"Great Balls Of Fire, Reggie's Back!"

by PV Mike on Jan 29, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

You forgot Sean Rooks!

Where would the Clippers have been without Sean Rooks?!

by pipedreams on Jan 29, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Buffalo?
San Diego?
Anaheim ?

by wilriv21 on Jan 29, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

About the traveling a day early to Denver to acclimate to the altitude

According to some research donde by a soccer squad it is better to ethier travel the same day of the game, or a couple of weeks ahead when dealing with altitude.

by XXDC2XX on Jan 29, 2012 3:04 AM PST reply actions  

Interesting....

So you wait until the last second and the altitude has less impact? That seems counterintuitive.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 29, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

In fact, the have 8 players averaging between 8 and 18. I don’t have to look anything up to know that they’re the only team in the league that can say that.

Philadelphia has 8 players between 9 and 16.

by d2s4ui1 on Jan 29, 2012 3:18 AM PST reply actions  

Wow!

Guess I should have looked it up. Great catch.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 29, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

guys

i had a jumbaco tonight

yes thats right..

first i took a jumbo jack

then i took two tacos

ate it just like it looked in the commercial…

worst decision of my life.

by shap on Jan 29, 2012 4:19 AM PST reply actions  

That's funny

I can’t eat their food. It makes me immediately sick.

by thewhiteshadow on Jan 29, 2012 7:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I too had Jumbaco and regretted it

but I keep going back for more…

No, it's the Clip Show!

by dan73962 on Jan 29, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I tried ordering one.

And the person flat out said no. Then I ordered the jumbo deal or whatever and the lady told me she does not advise me to make one. I whimped out and ordered breakfast, the only thing I can eat there.

by SurfinQ00 on Jan 29, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

lived in seattle

in the 90’s and ate at the jack in the box there the same week that a bunch of people got e coli poisoning from burgers. a few died- i was saved by my decision to just eat the taco portion of the jumbaco though

by old666 on Jan 29, 2012 7:49 AM PST reply actions  

interesting

yeah, Jack in the Box really had to turn up the marketing to Recover from that one.

"After the first six minutes I was heavily winded"-Andrew Bynum

by oasisman on Jan 29, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I have never had a problem with Jack in the Box

I know the stories about the whole Kangaroo meat scandal but I can’t recall when that happened and I may have been too young to notice. A lot of people have told me they get sick when they eat at Jack I wonder if it the lettuce or the veggies, which would explain why I don’t get sick because I don’t put them I on my burger.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown

by bestclipfan on Jan 29, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Jack

Jack in the Box is actually my fast food place. I don’t eat hamburgers, but I like their chicken sandwiches.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 29, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard that they started a resort for Clipper fans

‘Poetland’, or something like that. They imprisoned visitors at the bottom of wells until the meat became tender, and then cooked them into jumbacos. Some rumor that it continues today, and one seemingly harmless Clipper fan secretly leads his companions to their deaths.

Just something I heard, though.

by LJ Hann on Jan 29, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Shhhh!

"Great Balls Of Fire, Reggie's Back!"

by PV Mike on Jan 29, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoops!!

"(The Hornets are) very professional," Kaman said. "I’m not used to that. No, serious. It was an adjustment. After eight years [with the Clippers], I didn’t know it could be like this. I wasn’t used to it. The way they handle business … they’re up front with you and they tell you what’s going on and what’s going to happen…."

"All you do is take the man’s word and take that he said that no one is going to go anywhere," Gordon told Yahoo! Sports. "… To completely lie like that is something unprofessional."

by saxmanager on Jan 29, 2012 8:28 AM PST reply actions  

"Chris Kaman is no longer suiting up for the Hornets while he waits to be traded."

“Hornets GM Dell Demps told ESPN.com there were discussions about signing the 7-foot center to a long-term deal when he first arrived from the Clippers in the Chris Paul trade, but "we’ve decided to go in a different direction."

I guess it’s OK since NO told him about it.

by saxmanager on Jan 29, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Old quotes?

Those are the same old quotes from just after the trade, right? I mean, it’s interesting and all, and Kaman has never been one to mince words, but (a) he was upset at the time and (b) this is old news.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 29, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

76ers Are Doing The Same
. The new Nuggets are challenging the conventional NBA wisdom that every team must be built around a star.

They aren’t the only team doing that. The 76ers right now one of the top five teams in the league do not have a superstar though Igoudala has a Gold Medal. However, I doubt that too many people outside of greater Philly would consider AI a superstar. Even in Philly you would be hard pressed to get more than AI’s fanboys to mention AI and superstar in the same sentence.

I would put AI on about the same level as Nene, probably a bit better.

by Buddahfan on Jan 29, 2012 9:29 AM PST reply actions  

That's nothing New -see Detroit PISTONS

The 04-07 Pistons also lacked a true Superstar. Ben Wallace was their “star” and his offensive game was worse than D Jordan’s. Yet they went to 2 Straight NBA Finals and One NBA Championship. It has been done before.

By stating “AI” no one knows if you are talking about Iverson or Igoudala.

Denver has Ty Lawson-he’s a star.

"After the first six minutes I was heavily winded"-Andrew Bynum

by oasisman on Jan 29, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I mentioned Igoudala’s name in the post and then followed within context using AI No reason for anyone to think I was referring to Iverson when I used AI

Of course the Pistons lacked that superstar but that is only because the SMSM never incorrectly considered Billups a Superstar in his prime.

Steve already mentioned the Pistons so no need to mention them again.

by Buddahfan on Jan 29, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope

we destroy Miller. Im still super pissed off at him after that Portland game. Maybe Blake and Deandre can do like a double posterize slam on him WWE style.

by DannyDodger on Jan 29, 2012 9:36 AM PST reply actions  

On the other hand, the Clippers have played a very difficult schedule so far, which has likely depressed their record.

Lets look at their record against good teams

Spurs – Road loss
Bulls – Home loss
Portland – Home win
Houston – Home win
Portland – Road loss
Miami – Home win
Lakers – Home win
Utah – Road loss
Dallas – Home win
Lakers – Road loss
Memphis – Home win

So the Clippers have played 12 of their 16 games against possible playoff teams and are 7- 5 They are 3 – 1 against Toronto, GS, Milwaukee and Minn losing at home to Minn. Note: Minny could squeeze into the playoffs.

However, lets break those 12 down by home and road

They are 6 – 1 at home in those 12 games. Comment: You aren’t going to do much better than that even if playing mostly lottery teams. So it appears that the strength of schedule has not hurt their home record very much if at all.

They are 1 – 4 on the road. Beating GS and losing to four potential playoff teams.

In our small sample of 16 games we can draw some tentative conclusions.

1. Clippers can beat any team at home
2. Clippers have failed to beat any good team i.e. potential playoff team on the road.

There are no dog teams in the WC playoffs

Until the Clippers can show that they can beat good teams, i.e. playoff teams on the road it is hard to see them advancing past the first round in the playoffs.

by Buddahfan on Jan 29, 2012 9:51 AM PST reply actions  

Good point

At this rate they’ll finish 31-2 at home and 2-31 on the road. Which is .500 for the season and not a playoff team in the WC. I’m exaggerating of course, but until they win some road games, I’m not jumping for joy about this team.

by Thretch on Jan 29, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

+.75

I only gave it a plus .75 because while I agree with your conclusion I don’t like your conclusion. LOL

by Buddahfan on Jan 29, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha - I don't like my conclusion either

I give myself negative 0.75 for being bi-polar

by Thretch on Jan 29, 2012 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

If they win road games against bad teams (which they have so far, though they’ve only played one) they win more than that. But yes, they’ll need to win some road games against good teams, or secure home court throughout the playoffs.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 29, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I Thought About That

However, IMO it is highly questionable whether the Clippers can finish in the top four in the WC if they can’t beat good teams on the road. Especially when you consider how light their overall schedule has been compared to their opponents at Staples.

by Buddahfan on Jan 29, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

The Lakers have stunk it up on the road even worse at 1-7.

As long as we beat them in the Pacific Division we are going to have home court advantage the first round of the playoffs. As long as we beat the Milwaukee Bucks of teams on the road, we’ll be fine.

by chrisd on Jan 29, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

That Is Why It is "Tentative"

Very small sample but the early road results are far from encouraging

by Buddahfan on Jan 29, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

To be fair

in the Utah game we were missing CP3 and Mo (and that win could also be attributed to a schedule loss as they likely dropped it so they could rest for Dallas), and we were still learning how to play when we went against the Spurs. The only really telling losses would be in Portland and @ Lakes, Portland is one of the best home teams in the league so a loss there isn’t surprising and the Lakers played great and CP3 was still rusty so it wasn’t surprising we lost. So even the small sample size doesn’t tell us much other than that Clippers haven’t played much on the road. Today will be a better sign of how the clippers play on the road.

"It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right"unknown

by bestclipfan on Jan 29, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Good Explanations But

I have no idea how good the Clippers will be this season whatever the reasons may be for their early poor road record.

I hope the Clippers win the NBA title this season, but I need to see them play better on the road and see how they handle the increase in games per week before I feel confident about it happening.

by Buddahfan on Jan 29, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

you'd also have to consider that the team will improve over the course of the season

Hopefully we are not yet near the finish product. Still load of issues to work out and and a few obvious holes that the FO has to shore up. But still plenty of time. Kenyon Martin would be a good pick up.

Your capslock is stuck, please buy a new keyboard
"But can't the refs blow the whistle and stop play in certain situations?" Boltsfan21

by BelgianClipper on Jan 29, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

They Should Get Better

You could be correct and I hope you are.

However what about other playoff teams? Can we say that the other 15 have all peaked at this point? Not very likely.

by Buddahfan on Jan 29, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

no but many of them have played together for a lot longer then our Clips

so my take would be that our improvement could be bigger then most teams.

Anyway: some teams will have peaked before play-offs. Other will during play-offs. Think Grizzlies vs Spurs last season. So if the Clips can get into the play-offs comfortably and healthy whilst building up chemistry I don’t care if they are 1st or 8th seed.

Anyway to my feeling we are fringe contender at best this season (or the FO should pull some major moves). Second round play-offs is par for course.

Your capslock is stuck, please buy a new keyboard
"But can't the refs blow the whistle and stop play in certain situations?" Boltsfan21

by BelgianClipper on Jan 29, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Rallying Cry

“Second Round or Bust!”

by wilriv21 on Jan 29, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

anything less would be disappointing

and would send VDN on his way, I’m guessing

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"But can't the refs blow the whistle and stop play in certain situations?" Boltsfan21

by BelgianClipper on Jan 29, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I am a little worried about this game.

I think our a chillies hill will show again in this game (lack of bench).

by mustang6944 on Jan 29, 2012 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

Tough game...

This is when we need CP3 and Billups veteran leadership. I feel this will be a close game, but I can’t predict an outcome right now. If the Clippers play hard and smart, they will have a great chance.

by Hengtime81 on Jan 29, 2012 10:56 AM PST reply actions  

We will see if Clippers are contenders or not in the next 4 games

@ DEN (Sun) – prove we can beat quality teams on the road
vs OKC (Mon) – prove we can beat the best team in the NBA on 2nd night of b2b
@ UTA (Wed) – prove we can win in Utah (I fear UTA vs LAC match-up in the playoffs)
vs DEN (Thu) – watch out for this trap game at home, especially if LAC wins the 1st match-up

No, it's the Clip Show!

by dan73962 on Jan 29, 2012 11:06 AM PST reply actions  

verdict

4-0: yeah LAC is a title contender this year
3-1: yeah LAC is one of the 4 best teams in the WC
2-2: LAC will make the playoffs but that’s about it
1-3: LAC better watch out for that 8 seed (and Minnesota!)
0-4: Yeah well, it’s the same old Clippers

No, it's the Clip Show!

by dan73962 on Jan 29, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

.+90

ISTM that it will be a bit premature to call the Clippers a title contender this year if they go 4 – 0 in the next four games.

The reason: Clippers injury history.

by Buddahfan on Jan 29, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

fair enough

but man, beating OKC, @ UTA, and both DEN games in 5 days would be f’in sweet!!! No?

No, it's the Clip Show!

by dan73962 on Jan 29, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

that's the luck about every team needs

Your capslock is stuck, please buy a new keyboard
"But can't the refs blow the whistle and stop play in certain situations?" Boltsfan21

by BelgianClipper on Jan 29, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Mozgov!

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Now living the good life in Lob City, CA.

by boltsfan21 on Jan 29, 2012 11:14 AM PST reply actions  

Watch out

He’s going to come back 10x stronger and dunk on Blake.

by SurfinQ00 on Jan 29, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Mozgov Has Improved A Lot

He is also stronger than he might appear by just looking at him.

by Buddahfan on Jan 29, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

The nuggets are 14-5?

I am IMPRESSED. Way to go Denver,…. way to buck that conventional wisdom that you need superstars to win. I said it last year and I’ll say it again, the Knicks screwed the pooch when they traded almost all of their assets to overpay for Carmelo Anthony.

by Rob Lo on Jan 29, 2012 12:20 PM PST reply actions  

With that said

I’m hopeing they’ll be 14-6 after we are done with them, you can only buck conventional wisdom for so long, right?

by Rob Lo on Jan 29, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

ABC/Espn panel today

All except Barry (no surprise) said Clips were a contender, and Broussard added-
“And i think they’re getting Kenyon Martin”

by cassellmania on Jan 29, 2012 12:46 PM PST reply actions  

Jon Barry

is tied with Magic as the worst NBA “analysts”.

by Hengtime81 on Jan 29, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Surprised with start to season

After the trade for Chris Paul, spaced out schedule and all those home games I thought the Clips would be better than 10-6 at this point. If the Clips plan to contend for WCF and Finals they will need to find ways to win on the road.

by wilriv21 on Jan 29, 2012 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

10-6 seems about right to me

I figured everyone would be rusty with no training camp, CP was out of shape then injured his hammy, and the team still held their own while he was out. . .
This week will be the next step toward figuring if this team is a contender, with the first step being the b2b wins against Heat and Lakers.

by cassellmania on Jan 29, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

only game they lost which they should have won is Minny. Plus they won at home of the Lakers,Heat and Dallas. Not hard to imagine on forehand the clips dropping one of those games

Your capslock is stuck, please buy a new keyboard
"But can't the refs blow the whistle and stop play in certain situations?" Boltsfan21

by BelgianClipper on Jan 29, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah okay, seeing how that game went you are right

but I wasn’t too smashed by that

Your capslock is stuck, please buy a new keyboard
"But can't the refs blow the whistle and stop play in certain situations?" Boltsfan21

by BelgianClipper on Jan 29, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I was fine with that.

Especially because the stakes for the 3rd game is that much higher now :)

by SurfinQ00 on Jan 29, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

It seems

Clips still dont get the love and respect they deserve, but its good like that

by arman martikian on Jan 29, 2012 1:21 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

They never will.

With NBA fans today, you will be hated if you are a good team. Just look at the Heat, they are a stellar team yet you either love them or hate them. Good teams will never be liked aside from bandwaggoners or die hard fans. If and when we are bad, we are not given love and respect for obvious reasons. So no matter what we do, unless we become an average team, we won’t exactly be appreciated. It is a bit sad, but I’m fine with it just like you are!

by SurfinQ00 on Jan 29, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

How awesome is this?

we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.

WHO WANTS A FREE SHARPIE?? -- Blake Griffin

by ClipperBEAST on Jan 29, 2012 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

baby u are supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

i don’t get the context of it here though but it’s cute i guess.

by chrisd on Jan 29, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

half of the pictures are spelled out

doesn’t make it too hard. Yea I don’t get the context, maybe he’s going to send it in a letter to Reggie Evans?

by osamu on Jan 29, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Steve! Nice preview man.

Been looking forward to this game all weekend, all season! Clippers are really fun to watch, as are my Nuggets. I expect both of these teams to be in the playoffs (maybe even face each other at some point?) so this will be a good test for both squads.

I can’t think of a bad match up out there. And I know that Billups will get a well-deserved standing ovation when he’s announced to his home town crowd. Can’t believe the Nuggets have traded him twice in his career, bittersweet homecoming. I still own my #7 Billups jersey from the WCF run … that dude is awesome. He took time when he was traded back to Denver from Detroit to sign autographs all over town. He complimented by Broncos hat at one session (his favorite team) and I tried to give him the hat, was brand new. He laughed as he obviously wouldn’t want some random dudes hat, but he did point it out a couple times. Billups will have a special place in Denver fans’ hearts … even though he was traded away twice for wrong reasons.

Will be fun to see how Arron Afflalo, AAA, and Lawson play against CB1 aka Mr. Big Shot. Hope DeAndre doesn’t have his usual big game against Denver and I hope the Nuggets contain Mo Williams and the other outside shooters … Nuggets give up way too many open looks from outside …

Almost game time! Should be a good one.

by Nate Timmons on Jan 29, 2012 2:35 PM PST reply actions  

O/T - Just Saw Where NBA TV is Running Their

Making The Call series with Ronnie Nunn.

I don’t know if these are new shows or not but they are worth watching. They can of course be recorded and watched at one’s leisure.

I like the show because Nunn points out a lot of things about calls that even announcers get wrong.

Definitely worth a watch by the hard core NBA fan.

by Buddahfan on Jan 29, 2012 3:48 PM PST reply actions  

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