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The Case for Terrence: Something beneath the surface



We have been a team on a new frontier. From the stank dank coffin of the ship hull to top of the deck with one hand on the helm with a head cocked toward the 'crows nest'. With that ascent comes a more refined pallet and elevated expectations. We start to expect that we can get what we want. Recently we learned that we can't get it all just yet. Clipper GM and coach Vinnie were in the J.R. sweepstakes. When indentured servant turned mesne lord of estate, Chauncey Billups went down for the season, the Clippers went full steam ahead of the rather drought swingman well hunt. A well devoid of mentionable talent that had not already be claimed to stake is what the Clippers were fishing in and the one big bass was J.R. Smith. With Mr. Smith going to Gothem, the Clipper organization's fishery now consists of minnows and guppies for possible options. My focus is on once spirited marlin now knuckled under tuna. Or so it seems.

Star-divide

With little bit of quick delving of the roundball archives trumped up by a bit of dialogue from a separate post, I came across a player that 'fit the bill' of the Clippers needs and one that was young to be around after Billups, if all things worked out and that was the route to venture. Terrence Williams out of Louisville, Kentucky, a adolescent stallion of a stead. With a physic that rivaled Corey Maggette's and athleticism that exceed it his. Terrence Williams came in as a lottery pick by the New Jersey Nets as a senior out of the college game. Terrence reported to camp with the bio description of his strengths as:

"Freakish athlete with a good build and a great feel for the game ... Really showed that he has matured from his freshman year, by leading Louisville to the overall number 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament and an Elite Eight appearance ... He is a triple-double waiting to happen, averaged over 12 points per game, 8 rebounds per game, and over 5 assists per game ... He also led the team in steals with over 2 per game ... He is a defensive stopper who is able to guard multiple positions on the floor which should help him at the next level ... His vision and ability to pass are standout for a wing player..."

Terrence went to camp as well as his entire rookie season playing in 78 and starting in of them. He ended the season averaging 8.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.9 apq all in 22 minutes per game. It was a season that saw him have a Triple Double in his 75th game of his career, a feat many players never have. It also saw him see a career high of 27 points. He started and ended the season strong. But on December 15, 2010 Terrence Williams got a notice of change of address in a trade that also included the Lakers. It seems that he had somehow wore out his welcome in The General's platoon, being labled as a problem child.

Rocket's GM after the trade had this to say:

“We felt like that draft, Terrence had top-10 talent,” Morey said. “We still believe that. We think a fresh start might be exactly what he needs to show what he can do. It’s going to have to be something he shows the coaching staff how he can help us win.”

Yet there in Houston he sat on the shelf for 2 weeks before he got to hear his sneakers squeak during game time. And that was just for 7 mins. And when he did, never did he see game time that truly exceeded 10 mins, besides one game.

In what seems to be a well produced home video"Poor Hungry Driven", Terrence W. seems to shed some interesting light on the matters of his journey adding a little first person insight to what goes on behind the NBA curtain. He talks of what coach Rick Adelman said or didn't say when he first came. There is also a clip of Adelman discussing the initial matter, in what seemed to carry an "inside boys' tone to it. In it we see and hear Terrence's desires and aspirations to succeed nevertheless. During this pre-season recording he hear his hope in "playing" under new coach Kevin McHale. In 32 games this season Terrence Williams has played 148 mins in 9 games.

Terrence started pre-camp knowing where he was:

“It was very hard sitting and watching (last season), knowing I could help the team that’s out there playing … but I think I went through that to get me where I’m at today, to humble me for my future and now, so I’ll take it.

...But is it too late in Houston?

My interest has peeked in a guy that I actually liked as well during the 2009 draft. A guy that can fit physically, can presumably be had at rock bottom costs, and talks a good talk. Has he been blacklisted? Is it not worth it?

Here is a glance at the man's innate abilities;

Terrence in New Jersey

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Terrence Williams might work

I just dont know what we would give Houston for him. Bledsoe?

by NewCavsfan on Feb 21, 2012 9:27 AM PST reply actions  

I don't think they can demand so much

The guy does not play for them. His value too them is that he is an expiring contract.

Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin

by Takebb909 on Feb 21, 2012 9:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Fascinating player. . .

I remember he had a bunch of near triple doubles for the nets, but he had some really bad games too. Why does he not get PT? Attitude?

by cassellmania on Feb 21, 2012 10:14 AM PST reply actions  

Seems like the Wolves want to get rid of B-Easy

if we can get him for cheap, then let’s do it!
James Anderson and Marvin Williams have asked for a trade. both would be useful

by paris clips man on Feb 21, 2012 11:22 AM PST reply actions  

I think the Lakers are sniffing this one out.

I met my girlfriend through 800LoanMart but had to return her with interest.

by PV Mike on Feb 21, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Worth a look if they can't land Ray Allen.

I wonder what it would cost the Clippers.

A winning environment MIGHT change his attitude.

by dvnbtn on Feb 23, 2012 1:31 AM PST up reply actions  

The question is whether or not Williams can be dedicated enough

the report out of NJ was that he was notoriously late to meetings and shoot arounds.

by mustang6944 on Feb 21, 2012 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

We'll give him the same chance we were going to give as JR...

…playing for a better contract his agent and have him call neil olshey to plead hours case of being a changed man and asking for a chance to do what JR would have….with better defense.

Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin

by Takebb909 on Feb 21, 2012 1:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

but with JR...CP3 and Billups (and Kenyon) knew him personally

meaning JR would be more inclined to listen and follow the rules

T-Will on the other hand, even if given the same “chance” might now be interested/have the respect to listen

Ralph, "Last year so often with Blake Griffin you would see these things coming, with Paul, he's so crafty, all of a sudden boom there it is."

by KidJustin on Feb 22, 2012 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember I brought this up a while ago too...

Terrence Williams has almost all the tools to succeed in the NBA. I just can’t figure out why he gets no PT with either Houston or NJ. He’s definitely worth taking a flier on, two second round picks should do it.. lol.

by Rob Lo on Feb 21, 2012 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

On his chat, Pincus just said that the Clips aren't high on giving up any asset to get a decent SG

unless it’s for Ray Allen (or somebody of this level), which could happen by the deadline
Just Imagine how sweet it would be to watch Ray raining the treysall night on CP3’ assists

by paris clips man on Feb 21, 2012 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

if we could swing a deal for Ray Ray

wow, we could make a run for 1st seed in the playoffs..I hate to put down any of our players or coaches but I think our ceiling would be WCF w/ VDN as our coach.

by Valdeezy on Feb 21, 2012 1:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

What assets?

Clips don’t have many tradeable assets to begin with. 1st round picks on a mess, you can’t trade the starters.

Clipper Assets:
2nd round picks
Randy Foye’s expiring contract
Brian Cook’s expiring contract
Mo Williams (potentially expiring contract)
Trade exceptions
Trey Thompkins and Travis Leslie

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Feb 21, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoops

meant to list him

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Feb 21, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

A TPE for Terrence

Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin

by Takebb909 on Feb 21, 2012 4:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I think the Clippers have a shot to get Ray Allen

I’m rooting against the Celtics from now until the trade deadline. Hopefully they’ll play bad enough that it’s obvious they are nothing more then first round fodder for the Heat or Bulls. The Clippers can probably offer Bledsoe, Foye, and Cook with maybe a future 2nd round pick. Plus as Bill Simmons mentioned it would take a couple million off in luxury tax for the Celtics. That may not look like a great offer but I don’t think there will be many good ones for Allen. Will any team have around $7M of expiring contracts and be willing to give up a 1st round pick? That may top it.

by Beasel on Feb 21, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Such a fluffy post!

I haven’t seen much of TWill’s game but I do like his defensive potential for the team. I don’t know what’s the problem with him and why he does not get much playing time.

I'm not in it to be famous. I want to... be the best. -BG32

by cliptakular on Feb 21, 2012 5:29 PM PST reply actions  

Why do we keep bringing up these bad attitude players?

He’s another headcase. I like the model that Olshey started by cleaning out the crap from our locker room and bringing in good character guys. Guys that want to win. Maybe one headache is fine, but more than one..no please. There’s a reason he doesn’t get PT..he’s a coaches nightmare. Very talented..but not worth it.

by tenkaistar on Feb 21, 2012 6:13 PM PST reply actions  

That's the question

Oas this guy really a headcase since he has been in Houston? We would guess yes, but I doubt it. He is no where near any level if issue of JR.

Listen to his side of the story when he first talked to his new head coach Adelman and Adelman’s words on the matter. Sounds like like he started off in the dog house before he was even brought home from the pound.

For scraps, this guy is very worth the effort.

Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin

by Takebb909 on Feb 21, 2012 7:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Not really a head case.

he hasn’t gotten into trouble or anything. He is just immature.

by mustang6944 on Feb 23, 2012 2:56 AM PST up reply actions  

T-Will yesterday about playing in Houston or not in the future

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMxkuKJB-qw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin

by Takebb909 on Feb 21, 2012 11:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

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