The Case for Terrence: Something beneath the surface
We have been a team on a new frontier. From the stank dank coffin of the ship hull to top of the deck with one hand on the helm with a head cocked toward the 'crows nest'. With that ascent comes a more refined pallet and elevated expectations. We start to expect that we can get what we want. Recently we learned that we can't get it all just yet. Clipper GM and coach Vinnie were in the J.R. sweepstakes. When indentured servant turned mesne lord of estate, Chauncey Billups went down for the season, the Clippers went full steam ahead of the rather drought swingman well hunt. A well devoid of mentionable talent that had not already be claimed to stake is what the Clippers were fishing in and the one big bass was J.R. Smith. With Mr. Smith going to Gothem, the Clipper organization's fishery now consists of minnows and guppies for possible options. My focus is on once spirited marlin now knuckled under tuna. Or so it seems.
"Freakish athlete with a good build and a great feel for the game ... Really showed that he has matured from his freshman year, by leading Louisville to the overall number 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament and an Elite Eight appearance ... He is a triple-double waiting to happen, averaged over 12 points per game, 8 rebounds per game, and over 5 assists per game ... He also led the team in steals with over 2 per game ... He is a defensive stopper who is able to guard multiple positions on the floor which should help him at the next level ... His vision and ability to pass are standout for a wing player..."
Terrence went to camp as well as his entire rookie season playing in 78 and starting in of them. He ended the season averaging 8.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.9 apq all in 22 minutes per game. It was a season that saw him have a Triple Double in his 75th game of his career, a feat many players never have. It also saw him see a career high of 27 points. He started and ended the season strong. But on December 15, 2010 Terrence Williams got a notice of change of address in a trade that also included the Lakers. It seems that he had somehow wore out his welcome in The General's platoon, being labled as a problem child.
Rocket's GM after the trade had this to say:
“We felt like that draft, Terrence had top-10 talent,” Morey said. “We still believe that. We think a fresh start might be exactly what he needs to show what he can do. It’s going to have to be something he shows the coaching staff how he can help us win.”
Yet there in Houston he sat on the shelf for 2 weeks before he got to hear his sneakers squeak during game time. And that was just for 7 mins. And when he did, never did he see game time that truly exceeded 10 mins, besides one game.
In what seems to be a well produced home video"Poor Hungry Driven", Terrence W. seems to shed some interesting light on the matters of his journey adding a little first person insight to what goes on behind the NBA curtain. He talks of what coach Rick Adelman said or didn't say when he first came. There is also a clip of Adelman discussing the initial matter, in what seemed to carry an "inside boys' tone to it. In it we see and hear Terrence's desires and aspirations to succeed nevertheless. During this pre-season recording he hear his hope in "playing" under new coach Kevin McHale. In 32 games this season Terrence Williams has played 148 mins in 9 games.
Terrence started pre-camp knowing where he was:
“It was very hard sitting and watching (last season), knowing I could help the team that’s out there playing … but I think I went through that to get me where I’m at today, to humble me for my future and now, so I’ll take it.
...But is it too late in Houston?
My interest has peeked in a guy that I actually liked as well during the 2009 draft. A guy that can fit physically, can presumably be had at rock bottom costs, and talks a good talk. Has he been blacklisted? Is it not worth it?
Here is a glance at the man's innate abilities;
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I don't think they can demand so much
The guy does not play for them. His value too them is that he is an expiring contract.
Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin
by Takebb909 on Feb 21, 2012 9:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
you would!
wine um, dine um, 69 um
by flightofthegriffin on Feb 22, 2012 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
Fascinating player. . .
I remember he had a bunch of near triple doubles for the nets, but he had some really bad games too. Why does he not get PT? Attitude?
Seems like the Wolves want to get rid of B-Easy
if we can get him for cheap, then let’s do it!
James Anderson and Marvin Williams have asked for a trade. both would be useful
by paris clips man on Feb 21, 2012 11:22 AM PST reply actions
We have PGs
So Kahn should be interested.
by mustang6944 on Feb 21, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
I think the Lakers are sniffing this one out.
I met my girlfriend through 800LoanMart but had to return her with interest.
Worth a look if they can't land Ray Allen.
I wonder what it would cost the Clippers.
A winning environment MIGHT change his attitude.
The question is whether or not Williams can be dedicated enough
the report out of NJ was that he was notoriously late to meetings and shoot arounds.
We'll give him the same chance we were going to give as JR...
…playing for a better contract his agent and have him call neil olshey to plead hours case of being a changed man and asking for a chance to do what JR would have….with better defense.
Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin
by Takebb909 on Feb 21, 2012 1:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
but with JR...CP3 and Billups (and Kenyon) knew him personally
meaning JR would be more inclined to listen and follow the rules
T-Will on the other hand, even if given the same “chance” might now be interested/have the respect to listen
Ralph, "Last year so often with Blake Griffin you would see these things coming, with Paul, he's so crafty, all of a sudden boom there it is."
I remember I brought this up a while ago too...
Terrence Williams has almost all the tools to succeed in the NBA. I just can’t figure out why he gets no PT with either Houston or NJ. He’s definitely worth taking a flier on, two second round picks should do it.. lol.
On his chat, Pincus just said that the Clips aren't high on giving up any asset to get a decent SG
unless it’s for Ray Allen (or somebody of this level), which could happen by the deadline
Just Imagine how sweet it would be to watch Ray raining the treysall night on CP3’ assists
by paris clips man on Feb 21, 2012 1:28 PM PST reply actions
if we could swing a deal for Ray Ray
wow, we could make a run for 1st seed in the playoffs..I hate to put down any of our players or coaches but I think our ceiling would be WCF w/ VDN as our coach.
by Valdeezy on Feb 21, 2012 1:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
What assets?
Clips don’t have many tradeable assets to begin with. 1st round picks on a mess, you can’t trade the starters.
Clipper Assets:
2nd round picks
Randy Foye’s expiring contract
Brian Cook’s expiring contract
Mo Williams (potentially expiring contract)
Trade exceptions
Trey Thompkins and Travis Leslie
Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 21, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Whoops
meant to list him
Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.
by ClipperChuck on Feb 21, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
A TPE for Terrence
Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin
by Takebb909 on Feb 21, 2012 4:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I think the Clippers have a shot to get Ray Allen
I’m rooting against the Celtics from now until the trade deadline. Hopefully they’ll play bad enough that it’s obvious they are nothing more then first round fodder for the Heat or Bulls. The Clippers can probably offer Bledsoe, Foye, and Cook with maybe a future 2nd round pick. Plus as Bill Simmons mentioned it would take a couple million off in luxury tax for the Celtics. That may not look like a great offer but I don’t think there will be many good ones for Allen. Will any team have around $7M of expiring contracts and be willing to give up a 1st round pick? That may top it.
Such a fluffy post!
I haven’t seen much of TWill’s game but I do like his defensive potential for the team. I don’t know what’s the problem with him and why he does not get much playing time.
I'm not in it to be famous. I want to... be the best. -BG32
Why do we keep bringing up these bad attitude players?
He’s another headcase. I like the model that Olshey started by cleaning out the crap from our locker room and bringing in good character guys. Guys that want to win. Maybe one headache is fine, but more than one..no please. There’s a reason he doesn’t get PT..he’s a coaches nightmare. Very talented..but not worth it.
That's the question
Oas this guy really a headcase since he has been in Houston? We would guess yes, but I doubt it. He is no where near any level if issue of JR.
Listen to his side of the story when he first talked to his new head coach Adelman and Adelman’s words on the matter. Sounds like like he started off in the dog house before he was even brought home from the pound.
For scraps, this guy is very worth the effort.
Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin
by Takebb909 on Feb 21, 2012 7:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Not really a head case.
he hasn’t gotten into trouble or anything. He is just immature.
T-Will yesterday about playing in Houston or not in the future
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMxkuKJB-qw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Energy * Focus * No Excuses
"For [Griffin] getting in the way of Andre Miller’s 40 yard dash?" -S. Perrin
by Takebb909 on Feb 21, 2012 11:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions
as a general rule I don't like people named terrance
so I decline this
wine um, dine um, 69 um
by flightofthegriffin on Feb 22, 2012 11:12 PM PST reply actions

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