Wilson Chandler/OJ Mayo

by germanclipper on Feb 5, 2012 10:32 AM PST

Hello guys!

This may all be wishful thinking, but I've noticed recently that the names Wilson Chandler and OJ Mayo started to come up quite often in the comments. Quite some people feel that we should try to get OJ Mayo after the season and even more feel like Wilson Chandler would be awesome to have.

I know, we already have a lot of money commited to Caron Butler as our three and we have Chauncey Billups at the 2. Both have played exceptionally well for the team, especially Butler (sfter his injury...).

Now Billups held up quite well, and is doing great at an age where a lot of point guards have already disappeared due to different reasons. But he'll be 36 before next season. We have him on a 2 mil one-year contract, which is grotesque, when you think about Foye and Gomes making double that. He is old, but healthy and productive. Do we offer him another contract? Can we get him at the same price we have him now (how did we get him this cheap???)

Even though he's also doing great, we probably signed Caron Butler to too high and too long of a contract. Butler will be 32 by March. Question with him as well is, can he hold up the performance he's giving right now?

We've just gotten Kenyon and seem to be in the running for JR Smith, complicated but very talented player, who can play the 2-3.

Provided we don't give a new contract to Billups, we get 9 million off the books by the end of the season. Since we're probably giving a new contract to Billups and Evans, were probably looking at 6. If we get rid of Gomes somehow, we're looking at 10 million.

A lot of guys here have expressed not being too content with signing JR. Others think he will be a great addition. If he fits in, he might fit perfectly. He's a more than solid defender and instant offense, who creates quite a stir by being a slasher as well as a threat from three.

Chandler and Oj Mayo are the exact same type of players. All three of them are contributors more than solid perimeter defenders who provide instant offense.

So, do you think we should acquire JR Smith, or do you think we should try to acquire Mayo or Chandler? Common sense says we can't get both (we would probably be lucky to get one), but do you think there's still any way we could get them? In general, how do you think, we should procede? Or do you think it's too early?

Have a nice week everyone!

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Billups was anmestied under the new clause in the CBA that allows for every team to amnesty one player. The Knicks, Billups’ former team, still has to pay him, but his salary doesn’t count against the cap. We placed an anonymous bid on Chauncey of $2,000,032, and won the auction. Even though we are paying him 2mil, the Knicks are still responsible for the difference in his old contract, and are paying him 12mil.

I think that the Clippers will aim to re-sign him, just because we don’t really have another option at the starting 2. But I don’t know how much he will want. 2mil again? 5 mil? 8mil? Will he want to return to LAC? Lot’s of questions, not lots of answers.

It is possible that the Clippers would amnesty Gomes this summer to get his contract off the books, but the club wants to have a replcement for him on the wing before they do that.

I doubt that the Clippers would be in a scenario with 10 million to throw at a free agent. They are over the cap. So if we free up 10 million, as you suggested, then Olshey would only get 5 million or so to throw at another team’s free agent. Not to mention that a max extension will be incoming for Griffin this year.

The thing to consider is this: If we sign OJ Mayo or Wilson Chandler, do we need Billups? Probably not. I would be fine with Bledsoe and Mo as backups to CP3/one of those two.

I do not like JR Smith as a person. But I have long been electrified by his abilities as a player. I am really torn on the subject.

by LJ Hann on Feb 5, 2012 11:16 AM PST reply actions

And for you

Billups wurde unter der neuen Klausel in der KNA, die für jedes Team einen Spieler, um Amnestie ermöglicht anmestied. Die Knicks, Billups ’ehemaliges Team, hat immer noch, ihn zu bezahlen, aber sein Gehalt nicht gegen die Kappe zu zählen. Wir legten eine anonyme Bewerbung auf Chauncey von $ 2.000.032, und gewann die Auktion. Auch wenn wir ihn bezahlen 2mil werden, sind die Knicks immer noch verantwortlich für den Unterschied in seinem alten Vertrag und zahlen ihm 12mil.

Ich denke, dass die Clippers wird neu signieren wollen ihn, nur weil wir haben nicht wirklich eine andere Option 2 an den Start. Aber ich weiß nicht, wie viel er will. 2mil wieder? 5 mil? 8mil? Wird er möchte mit LAC zurückkehren? Hier gibt es viele Fragen, nicht viele Antworten.

Es ist möglich, dass die Clippers Amnestie würde in diesem Sommer Gomes, seinen Vertrag aus die Bücher zu bekommen, aber der Verein will einen Replcement für ihn auf dem Flügel haben, bevor sie das tun.

Ich bezweifle, dass die Clippers würde in einem Szenario mit 10 Mio. sein, um an einem freien Agenten zu werfen. Sie sind über die Kappe. Also, wenn wir frei bis 10 Millionen, wie Sie vorgeschlagen, dann Olshey würde nur 5 Millionen oder so, an einer anderen Teams Free Agent zu werfen. Ganz zu schweigen davon, dass eine max Erweiterung wird für eingehende Griffin in diesem Jahr.

Die Sache zu prüfen, ist dies: Wenn wir vom Mayo oder Wilson Chandler unterzeichnen, brauchen wir Billups? Wahrscheinlich nicht. Ich wäre in Ordnung mit Bledsoe und Mo als Backups von diesen beiden CP3/one zu.

Ich mag es nicht JR Smith als Person. Aber ich habe lange Zeit durch seine Fähigkeiten als Spieler wurde elektrifiziert. Ich bin wirklich über das Thema zerrissen.

by LJ Hann on Feb 5, 2012 11:16 AM PST reply actions

Ahm, you are aware that I do speak English ;-).

Did you do that with a translation program, because I understand everything your english post says and little of what the german translation of your post says! ;-)

by germanclipper on Feb 5, 2012 11:33 AM PST reply actions

I was under the impression you spoke German and little english

someone said in a previous post that you had written the entire thing in German and translated it. Anyways, yes I used a translator. The problem is that I think it translated word-for-word, instead of reordering it to fit the language.

by LJ Hann on Feb 5, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions

No no, I write that stuff in English. Someone said I wrote it in German and translated it? That’s funny, but I certainly hope my English isn’t thaat bad, because these translators… you get the general sense of what they mean, but they don’t really work all that well.

by germanclipper on Feb 5, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions

But then again playing the Devil's advocate here, what makes us think

either player would sign with the Clippers?

by lovinglosangeles on Feb 5, 2012 11:54 AM PST reply actions

Wilson Chandler is a restricted free agent

by Akram47 on Feb 5, 2012 12:02 PM PST reply actions

im not so sure re-signing billups is a good idea

unless we can get him for really cheap and less then 3 years….i just have a feeling that we are gonna try to retain him and over pay him

by nauticazn25 on Feb 5, 2012 12:42 PM PST reply actions

I would give him 2yr/8 mil

1yr/6mil

by LJ Hann on Feb 5, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions

I don't think this is an issue we address until next season

Honestly, our backcourt is one of the best in the league. Rotation of CP3, Chauncey, MO, Foye, and Bledsoe is deep.
It will all depend on if Clippers retain Chauncey or not next year and beyond. I have a feeling that Chauncey will be back for couple more years at least.
Butler is fine at SF and Gomes is a serviceable backup.
I am more worried about having another big body to backup DJ. In the playoffs, big teams like the Lakers and Jazz will give us problems. I know we signed KMART but he’s not big enough to guard the big centers in the league and he only signed a 1-year contract. I can guarantee you that Solomon Jones won’t be back next year.
As for Mayo and Chandler. I do not like Mayo’s character dating back to his high school and USC days when he was such a punk. Chandler, on the other hand, I do like very much. But he’s a restricted free agent this year (Clippers won’t spend any money to bid for a player this year) and I heard that Denver wants to keep him long term (Denver won’t trade him likely).

No, it's the Clip Show!

by dan73962 on Feb 6, 2012 9:45 AM PST reply actions

Chandler would be great...

But I have a feeling another team will outbid the Clips. He can play the 3, rebound, shoot a bit, and defend ok. Mayo I’m not interested in. He is a spot up shooter with little ability to create plays.

What the bench needs is another playmaker so JR Smith would actually be perfect. Obviously there’s the possibility of crazy to deal with, but with all the veterans on this team it would work more likely than not.

by dumpleavy on Feb 6, 2012 10:37 AM PST reply actions

So far I count 15 teams who probably won’t or shouldnt pursue Chandler, because they already have someone to fill the position. Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Indiana, Miami, New York, Orlando, Philadelphia, Lakers, Memphis, Minnesota, OKC, Portland, San Antonio. Dallas already have Matrix and will be too caught up in trying to acquire Dwight and Deron; a lot of guys say, Denver want him back, but they already have Afflalo and Fernandez on the two, Galinari and Brewer on the 3 and they already had a bit of a logjam last season. Toronto have displayed interest. If they want to throw money at him, noone will be able to outbid them (provided Denver isn’t interested in retaining their logjam).
So there is an outside chance we could get him.

OJ Mayo.
I’m really surprised. A lot of people say that they don’t like him, don’t like his attitude…

I don’t see it this way.
Here’s guy who had all the hype since he was 8 years old, all through high school and college. Here’s a guy who started his first year (first 20 games) with the most 30 point outings and highest scoring average since Allen Iverson, and he learns to coexist with a player like Rudy Gay, who is very similar to him (sometimes that takes a lot of adapting if there’s already a guy on the team who does what you do), yet he does fine. Then the ghost of Allen Iverson and Tony Allen come in, he gets demoted to sixth player… and he doesn’t actually bitch and moan that much about it, but plays his part (like Mo).
Yes, there was the Tony Allen incident and people tend to point out, that his numbers went down, especially last season… but the guys father went to jail for a murder.
WHO lists that as one of the most incisive life-events a person can have. Seeing where he came from, all the hype, seeing how well he has adapted, thats no small feat. And the Grizzlies have tried to shop him several times and he played through it like a professional.

Let’s look at some other guys who have been hyped: Len Bias, died from an overdose, Steve Francis, refused to report to the team that drafted him, felt too entitled to play for them, Michael Olowokandi, felt he was to good to need to take the opportunity to be taught by freaking Kareem Abdul Jabbar (who just might be the best center of all time)… and the list goes on and on. To come from where Mayo comes from and take all that professionally, that takes something.

So I’m not worried about Mayo’s attitude.
If teams make the mistake of worrying about that with Mayo and there is the slightest chance we can add him, I think we do it.

by germanclipper on Feb 7, 2012 3:23 PM PST reply actions