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Clippers at Cleveland - Game Preview

2011/2012 NBA Regular Season
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Quicken Loans Arena
February 8th, 2012, 4:00 PM
FS West, KFWB 980 AM
Probable starters:
Chris Paul
PG Kyrie Irving
Randy Foye SG Alonzo Gee
Caron Butler
SF Omri Casspi
Blake Griffin
PF Antawn Jamison
DeAndre Jordan
C Anderson Varejao

The Back Story:

First meeting of the season. The teams split two game last year.

The Big Picture:

The Clippers played the first third of the 66 game regular season with Chauncey Billups. They will have to play the final two thirds without him. Billups went down to the floor late in Monday night's game in Orlando, clutching his lower left leg. An MRI on Tuesday confirmed what everyone already feared -- Billups had torn his Achilles tendon. He'll be out for the season, throwing his future with the team into uncertainty, though he says he plans to play again, and would like to play for the Clippers. On paper, the loss of Billups is not insurmountable. The backcourt happens to be the one position at which the Clippers are deep. Randy Foye will move into the starting lineup, where he has always done a respectable job. Caron Butler, Chris Paul and Mo Williams will probably all need to take a few more shots to make up for Billups' absence, but again that's all doable. It's the intangibles that will be harder to replace. But then again, it helps to have Paul in that regard. In this, the first game since the injury, the Clippers' emotions may be the biggest hurdle. Dealing with the weight of the loss may be harder than his actual absence from the basketball court. We'll see. The team could come out in a funk over the situation, or they could come out extra motivated to win in his absence.

Star-divide

The Antagonist:

The Cavs are not nearly as bad as I thought they would be. In fact, in the still-embarrassingly-weak-despite-some-good-teams-at-the-top-of-the-standings East, Cleveland is currently in tenth, just a half game out of the eighth playoff spot. Kyrie Irving, whom they selected first in the 2011 draft with a pick they received from the Clippers, appears to be the real deal. His PER of 22.1 isn't just good for a rookie, good, it's just plain good. Especially for a rookie. Especially for a point guard. Irving is leading the team in scoring, while shooting 50% from the field, which is a pretty amazing percentage for a point guard. The Cavs also have Antawn Jamison and Anderson Varejao back, both of whom spent large portions of last season injured, so that helps as well. But at this point it would seem that the future in Cleveland will be built around Irving and ... well, pretty much just Irving.

The Subplots

  • Set those DVRs. Don't make the mistake I made. This game, like Monday's, is on Fox Sports West, not Prime Ticket. Since the season series on my DVR is set up for Prime Ticket, I ended up missing the first half of the Orlando game. Of course, this happens when the games are starting at 4. Friday's game in Philadelphia is on FS West also.
  • Road winning streak. The Clippers have won four straight on the road. Believe it or not, that is the longest road winning streak in the Clippers era, while a win tonight would be the longest road streak since 1974, when the team was in Buffalo. Somehow I think there are going to be a lot of new Clippers records set now that Chris Paul is in town.
  • Cleveland on a back to back. The Clippers catch a break on the schedule, with Cleveland playing after losing in Miami Tuesday night. The Clippers had Tuesday off and have been waiting in beautiful Cleveland, enjoying the sights.
  • Last meeting in Cleveland. Almost exactly a year ago, the Clippers did what no other team in the NBA had been able to do for a record breaking period of time - they lost to the Cavs. Cleveland was on an NBA record breaking 26 game losing streak when the Clippers strolled casually into the Q. It wasn't easy, but led by Mo Williams (now a Clipper of course), the Cavs pulled out a victory in overtime. Williams and J.J. Hickson did the damage for the Cavs in that meeting, and neither is still with the team. At any rate, It's not the way the Clippers wanted to enter the record book.
  • Parker out? Anthony Parker has missed the Cavs' last four games dealing with a bad back. He's called day to day, but I don't expect him to play against the Clippers.
  • Gibson? Like Parker, Daniel Gibson has missed several games recently, in Gibson's case with an infection in his neck. He was originally supposed to play on Tuesday, but had a set back in his recovery. It's unclear what his status is for this game.
  • No Solomon Jones. Not that you would really notice, but there won't be any Solomon Jones for the Clippers tonight. He was waived yesterday, the last day to do so before his contract would become fully guaranteed. Without Jones and Billups the Clippers have 13 players who could be in uniform. Of those, Kenyon Martin hasn't played an NBA game in over 9 months, and is probably not in game shape, and Eric Bledsoe had a minor setback with his surgically repaired knee recently. Then you have Brian Cook, Trey Thompkins and Travis Leslie, none of whom should really be getting into competitive games at this point. Bottom line is, the Clippers may be looking at an 8 man rotation until Martin and/or Bledsoe are back, or maybe they sign someone to a 10 day contract.
  • Who are these guys? I wish I could give you a thorough accounting of this opponent, but I really don't have a lot to say about Samardo Samuels or Alonzo Gee or Christian Eyenga.
  • Jamison and Griffin. Antawn Jamison has been a tweener his entire NBA career. Tonight, he'll be matched up on Blake Griffin, decidedly NOT a tweener. Blake is a lot bigger than Jamison, and should be able to overpower him in the post. But on the other end, Jamison is a nifty scorer who possesses every scoop, flip and push shot in the book. Jamison has a knack for scoring in some of the ugliest ways, and I can imagine him giving Griffin fits, throwing those old YMCA moves at him that Blake has likely never seen before.
  • Gee. With Parker hurt, the Cavs will likely start Alonzo Gee at the two guard. Gee is a 6'6" big time athlete who will have a major size advantage against the LA guards. Foye will have his hands full; Mo Williams will be giving away even more size. I doubt the Cavs really want their offense to run through Gee, and I'm not sure how much game he's got in the post, but it's a matchup to watch.
  • Three guard lineup. Continuing the thought above, if Vinny Del Negro tries to go with the three guard lineup he has been using recently, it will probably need to be when Irving and Ramon Sessions are both in the game. Even then, Foye will at best be matched up with the 6'6" Gee or the 6'7" Eyenga.
  • Paul. It almost goes without saying that Paul is the key for the Clippers. He's the key in every game. But in the first game without Billups, he will need to look for his own shot more in the early going, and he will need to set the tone for the team to stay focused. The Clippers are a perfect 10-0 on the season when he scores more than 16. I think he'll probably be feeling a little extra motivation as well, going up against the new hotshot point guard of the league.
  • Counterfactual history. I was never a fan of the Baron Davis trade. I didn't like giving up the draft pick, regardless of where it fell in the lottery. I didn't think Mo Williams was as good as Baron. A third of the way through this season, things have broken incredibly well for the Clippers. They used the cap space to sign Caron Butler, who has been a major upgrade at the small forward. Baron was amnestied in Cleveland and is hurt and has yet to play a game. Mo has played the best basketball of his career. The team was able to trade for Paul, and so clearly has little use for Irving. Bill Simmons presented a counterfactual recently in which the trade didn't happen, and the Clippers ended up dealing for Dwight Howard instead. The more straightforward alternative history seems to be that they still did the Paul trade, amnestied Baron and kept the pick. They could have packaged that pick into the Paul trade, perhaps keeping Eric Gordon in the process. Of course, Sterling would never have agreed to amnesty Baron, so the Caron signing would not have been possible, and the team would at best have a $14M Baron Davis backing up Chris Paul. Bottom line -- it all worked out pretty well, and we don't have to think about alternative histories anymore on this one.
  • Ramon Sessions. In the summer of 2009, Ramon Sessions was an almost daily fixture on Clips Nation during a slow part of the off season. There wasn't much else to talk about, and Sessions was an intriguing free agent point guard who the Clippers had shown some interest in. Those crazy Minnesota Timberwolves (KAHHHHNNNNN!), stockpiling point guards at the time, signed Sessions - and promptly buried him behind the underwhelming Jonny Flynn. Apparently disenchanted with Sessions, Kahn then dumped his contract on Cleveland for nothing (Delonte West who was cut and former Clipper Sebastian Telfair). In Cleveland, Sessions has returned to being the quietly productive point guard he had been in Milwaukee. Of course, he's only ever played on terrible teams, so the question of whether he could be the starting point guard on a good team remains unanswered. Now Sessions is the target of trade rumors involving the Lakers.
  • Famous Quotation:

    cavalier

    an uncircumcised penis or someone with an uncircumcised penis.

    a cavalier is someone with whom one can snoodle.

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Second!

Wait, what.

Wake 'n Blake

by Bui Himself on Feb 8, 2012 12:28 AM PST reply actions  

"Things change when something is taken away from you" -BG32

by JackduhSun on Feb 8, 2012 2:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Just as funny is the next bit where McGee then runs back up court

dumps himself under the Toronto basket asking Wall to throw up an alley oop. Wall throws it about 4 foot away from him and it’s a complete disaster.

We get used to seeing classy Alley-Oops in Clipperland – this was the opposite of what we see.

Bingo! Oh me oh my!

by ClippersUK on Feb 8, 2012 2:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Wall probably threw it bad on purpose to make him look stupider

Ralph, "Last year so often with Blake Griffin you would see these things coming, with Paul, he's so crafty, all of a sudden boom there it is."

by KidJustin on Feb 8, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

It's basically - WTF!

And with the 12th pick in the 2005 NBA draft, the LA Clippers pick Yaroslav "Dogs Dinner" Korolev

by ClippersUK on Feb 8, 2012 2:26 AM PST up reply actions  

In his honor. . .

It would be pretty cool if all or at least one of the Clippers starters wrote ‘CB1’ on their shoes tomorrow, specifically Paul with his CP3 shoes. . .just throwing it out there, in case any of the players read the comments ;)

Go Clips

by cassellmania on Feb 8, 2012 12:43 AM PST reply actions  

He probably wouldn't want that

He is still alive after all. He just got hurt.

"After the first six minutes I was heavily winded"-Andrew Bynum

by oasisman on Feb 8, 2012 12:54 AM PST up reply actions  

But he's out for the year and was expected to lead them in the postseason

It’s more a showing of solidarity, I remember all the Piston players on the 2006 allstar team wrote ‘TP’ on their shoes because Tayshaun was the only starter not named an all star.

by cassellmania on Feb 8, 2012 1:00 AM PST up reply actions  

yea that's still different

Ralph, "Last year so often with Blake Griffin you would see these things coming, with Paul, he's so crafty, all of a sudden boom there it is."

by KidJustin on Feb 8, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

that's why they amnestied Baron

and his herniated dicks

Ralph, "Last year so often with Blake Griffin you would see these things coming, with Paul, he's so crafty, all of a sudden boom there it is."

by KidJustin on Feb 8, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

C'mon Randy

I think he’ll step up and have a good game tonight. Something along the lines of 15pts, 3 rebs, 3 assists.

Bingo! Oh me oh my!

by ClippersUK on Feb 8, 2012 1:31 AM PST reply actions  

Anybody can get 15 points, let’s just see how many shots it takes him! Jk.

On a side note, I think Foye’s play could potentially improve being next to Paul. Given that Foye is starting- and starting next to Paul, Foye should get more open shots than usual. The question to me is whether Foye can take advantage of the open looks by hitting the open jumpshot. The thing is, to me atleast, a dropoff from Foye to Billups isn’t as steep if Foye can atleast be somewhat consistant on his shots. I think Chauncy provided good leadership and hit big shots win needed, but throughout the quarters, it didn’t seem like he wasn’t hitting the open J’s. The thing that Billups did have however, was that he was shooting the 3’s at an okay rate and also getting to the line. If Foye can hit the feeds from Paul, this would ease the pain slightly.

Regardless though, I still don’t see Foye being our starting shooting guard, and if we are planning to compete well into the playoffs, I don’t see Foye starting for us to get to the Finals(same goes for Maurice Williams) (And wow I’m talking Finals?!?). Hopefully Clipper management is actively looking for a solution. This could very well be an appropriate time to discuss matters with JR Smith and see what he wants.

"Things change when something is taken away from you" -BG32

by JackduhSun on Feb 8, 2012 1:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I can tell you what he wants

His own ball to play with.

Bingo! Oh me oh my!

by ClippersUK on Feb 8, 2012 2:14 AM PST up reply actions  

or more fun for Reggie.

"Cheikh Samb, the player who allowed us to emotionally move on from losing Keith Closs"

by PV Mike on Feb 8, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

All he has to do is take one step back and his efficiency will skyrocket.

God I really, really hate those long twos with his foot on the line.

Wake 'n Blake

by Bui Himself on Feb 8, 2012 2:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm more annoyed by his constant drives to the basket that end with an ugly shot

I get he’s trying to try the foul..but either he’s not special enough to get those calls, or he’s just not getting the contact and is making a circus shot for no reason. Regardless., it’s frustrating.

by UC.Clipper on Feb 8, 2012 3:36 AM PST up reply actions  

The Cavs just played Miami at Miami. I watched most of the game.

We need to control the boards. Varajao is a monster on the boards this season. Irving can shoot, but he’s not a pass first point guard. Defend him well and he won’t be so effective. Jamison can be problematic. Gee is athletic..that’s it. The Cavs have athletic guys, but they aren’t very good. We should win this one. Losing Chauncey should have the team more motivated.

by tenkaistar on Feb 8, 2012 2:12 AM PST reply actions  

I think there will be a feeling of winning this one for Mr Big Shot.

I’m gonna miss having him around this team. For all his weaknesses, I always felt a bit secure with him around.

And with the 12th pick in the 2005 NBA draft, the LA Clippers pick Yaroslav "Dogs Dinner" Korolev

by ClippersUK on Feb 8, 2012 3:45 AM PST up reply actions  

There is no doubt in my mind

that Chauncey will have a big, big impact on the team, no matter if it’s on the court or off. I also remember Randy last year, when EJ was out several games with his wrist – Foye played really well in his absence

by Pawn on Feb 8, 2012 3:56 AM PST reply actions  

He did. I've just been back and looked at his stats during the 24 game block he started in.

He scored 16 ppg with just over 4 assists a game – with a FG% of 43%

That is comparible to what Chauncey brings stats wise this year. As long as CP3 keeps him on some reigns, reminding him he’s 4th/5th option and that person shouldn’t be chucking up 15 shots a game, I think he’ll do fine.

Lots of Randy Foye doubters on here. I am not one of them.

And with the 12th pick in the 2005 NBA draft, the LA Clippers pick Yaroslav "Dogs Dinner" Korolev

by ClippersUK on Feb 8, 2012 4:10 AM PST up reply actions  

please, enough with baron davis

why must we re-visit baron “albatross” davis? he is gone…good riddance…we gave up kyrie irving and end up with cp3, mo williams and caron…no brainer there…we transform the team…get rid of kaman who the hornets think so highly of that they tell mr. flippy to “stay home”…the hornets were probably worried that he would pull up with a so-called injury, as he usually does, and conveniently doesnt get better until after the trade deadline…the hornets cant dump him…and we gave up eric gordon, who i love, but he seems to have a problem playing full schedules….can we move on and let the knicks be concerned with the latest baron davis problem and enjoy what is and will continue to be the greatest clipper year ever.

by dellago on Feb 8, 2012 5:14 AM PST reply actions  

The Game Previews are put up and one of the features talks about the links

between the two teams. Considering our pivotal moment last year for the future of the franchise was the Baron move, I reckon we can have a paragraph on it, don’t you! I like reading the previews – how else would I have known the rules of becoming a Cavalier (see definition).

And with the 12th pick in the 2005 NBA draft, the LA Clippers pick Yaroslav "Dogs Dinner" Korolev

by ClippersUK on Feb 8, 2012 5:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree - I enjoy reading the game preview in its current format

It’s also a good way to re-freshen your Clippers memory/history.

No, it's the Clip Show!

by dan73962 on Feb 8, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

You can't just pretend the Baron trade didn't happen...

No matter where you stand on the trade or why and when it happened. If nothing else it tells us how we got here… and helps us understand who we are.

by John Raffo on Feb 8, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Gotta go with a Matrix quote here

“What happened happened and couldn’t have happened any other way”

Why it is still harped upon every other day or so is beyond me

by MikeV7297 on Feb 8, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Vis-a-vis

Trinity.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Feb 8, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Never seen Talladega Nights but that clip was really funny.

Took that topic on some pretty good tangents..nicely done

by MikeV7297 on Feb 8, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It's what we do best

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Feb 8, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

My one game of the year I get to see the Clips in person!

I’m hoping the results of this one are alot more pleasing then last year.
I expect Mo to get a nice reception when he checks into the game tonight.

by Beasel on Feb 8, 2012 5:48 AM PST reply actions  

I think Varejao will guard Blake

With Jamison just trying to box out DJ…

We need Bill Walton back: "THROW IT DOWN BIG MAN...THROW IT DOWN"
___________

by banandy on Feb 8, 2012 6:01 AM PST reply actions  

I wonder

It will be interesting to see if the Cavs go that way. Jamison would be so much smaller than DJ, but overall it would probably be better to have Andy on Blake.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Feb 8, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Does Vinny shake Gilbert's hand tonite for helping us get CP3?

"Cheikh Samb, the player who allowed us to emotionally move on from losing Keith Closs"

by PV Mike on Feb 8, 2012 6:13 AM PST reply actions  

Why?

Gilbert didn’t help the Clips get CP3. Maybe for getting Caron?

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Feb 8, 2012 6:38 AM PST up reply actions  

The letter?

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Feb 8, 2012 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

oh right the email

complaining about the LAL trade

Help us Altered Beast you're our only hope.

by ClipperChuck on Feb 8, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Rebounding from a loss

The Clippers will have to play the rest of the season without Billups. This was undoubtedly an unfortunate event, but should not be a jarring experience that rattles the Clippers. The Clippers have a strong team on and off the court. Also, they have options with other players who will have an opportunity to step up. I think the Clippers will show their true colors as a team as they continue to move through the season. As an official sponsor of the Clippers 1-800LoanMart wants a speedy and healthy recovery for Billups! Keep up to date with the latest news. http://www.800loanmart.com/

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by 800LoanMart on Feb 8, 2012 9:18 AM PST reply actions  

So you're just going to keep posting the exact same thing on different pages, Mr. Spammer?

Official sponsor of the Clippers or not, that’s pretty weak. At least the spam from the Chinese knockoffs company is mostly filled with Chinese characters so our eyes can glaze right over it. Keep this up and I can guarantee most Citizens of Clipper Nation will be looking elsewhere when in need of a loan.

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Now living the good life in Lob City, CA.

by boltsfan21 on Feb 8, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

It's like if Kia were posting on the site.

What’s up KIA? Where you at? Letting 1800-Loan-Mart upstage you??

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Feb 8, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

If Kia wants to post its Blake-on-rollerskaes ad over and over

I’d be down with that.

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Now living the good life in Lob City, CA.

by boltsfan21 on Feb 8, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I seriously love all of Blake's commercials

How he always just keeps awkwardly staring at people after he says his piece. My favorite is the one where he’s spinning the ball and even the ball stops as everyone awkwardly stares at each other.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Feb 8, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't agree

This is a much improved team, especially at home. I am surprised NewCavsFan is not blowing up this post right now.

"Cheikh Samb, the player who allowed us to emotionally move on from losing Keith Closs"

by PV Mike on Feb 8, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

its almost game time

he’s busy getting the team ready for the game, tell the Cavs all of the little tricks he learned about the Clippers on this blog.

(or busy sabotaging the Cavs…it all depends on who he is a bigger fan of really, us or them)

Ralph, "Last year so often with Blake Griffin you would see these things coming, with Paul, he's so crafty, all of a sudden boom there it is."

by KidJustin on Feb 8, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Give me a “G”
Give me an “I”
Give me an “M”
Give me another “M”
Give me an “E”

what does that spell?

by wilriv21 on Feb 8, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

GRIFFIN!

oh wait…

Ralph, "Last year so often with Blake Griffin you would see these things coming, with Paul, he's so crafty, all of a sudden boom there it is."

by KidJustin on Feb 8, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Watching Kyrie Irving highlights... this kid is the real deal.

You know I already think it’s 97.2% impossible for us to have ever gotten Irving, and he’s certainly no CP3 in 2012, but man that kid has a high ceiling. Just dreaming about Irving + Gordon + Griffin + Jordan leaves me in awe. But it’ll stay right there, as a dream.

Let’s not sleep on this team, but our inside game should prevail. Irving is great on offense, but he’s not that much of a defender and a so-so passer. (CP3 had 7.8 assists per 36 as a rook, compared to Irving’s 6.1, for reference.)

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Feb 8, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Irving is a really good kid to.

Raised by his father. Mother passed away when a child.

"Cheikh Samb, the player who allowed us to emotionally move on from losing Keith Closs"

by PV Mike on Feb 8, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn

Gotta love that. And since LeBron left Cleveland and completely obliterated his image (it took a lot worse for Kobe to do the same), I’d bet my life savings that he never leaves the Cavs.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Feb 8, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

OT, but why are the fan shots all hidden except the recommended one?

We need Bill Walton back: "THROW IT DOWN BIG MAN...THROW IT DOWN"
___________

by banandy on Feb 8, 2012 9:23 AM PST reply actions  

i meant, fan posts

We need Bill Walton back: "THROW IT DOWN BIG MAN...THROW IT DOWN"
___________

by banandy on Feb 8, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I was wondering this too

Makes me not want to do one because now it’s a click away, instead of just on the front page, so no one will see it.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Feb 8, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Which is a bummer

Because we’re all anxiously awaiting the official unveiling of MEGASTAT.

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Now living the good life in Lob City, CA.

by boltsfan21 on Feb 8, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Coming, this weekend

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Feb 8, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

It's front page worthy.

It’s the Frankenstein of one number stats.
It’s like that Porsche commercial: (heavy German accent) “Doctor O couldn’t find za one-number-stat of his dreamz zo he built his own…. Coming zoon… Mega-shtat.”

by John Raffo on Feb 8, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

are the players at the bottom of the MEGASTAT

called MEGA-SHATS?

Ralph, "Last year so often with Blake Griffin you would see these things coming, with Paul, he's so crafty, all of a sudden boom there it is."

by KidJustin on Feb 8, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha absolutely they are.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Feb 8, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Blame Tim Kempton

"Cheikh Samb, the player who allowed us to emotionally move on from losing Keith Closs"

by PV Mike on Feb 8, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Or Buddahfan...

I certainly don’t know anything. I thought maybe they had all timed out.

by John Raffo on Feb 8, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope it's just temporary while Steve purges all the Tim Kempton stuff from the archives

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Now living the good life in Lob City, CA.

by boltsfan21 on Feb 8, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

The clips new Slogan...

CHAMPIONSHIP FOR CHAUNCEY! Someone should make some shirts and little towels so we could have them waving around at staples!

I think these are the types of adversities that a team can come together on and just play out of there minds every single night. Lets go clips!

by My dukie twinkles on Feb 8, 2012 11:00 AM PST reply actions  

Dallas did it last year without Caron

The Clippers can do the same thing without Chauncey. They just need someone to step up like Barea did last season. Could be Foye, could be EBled.

by MikeV7297 on Feb 8, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Gotta hope that CP3 rubs off on EBled and he turns out to be something special.

If he’s gonna mold into a great player, now’s the time.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Feb 8, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I really think he is going to become a dynamic player

So I’m on the please don’t trade EBled bandwagon. Plus, he is now going to have Chauncey in his ear on the bench all the time.

by MikeV7297 on Feb 8, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd rather not trade him either

Rather trade Foye and Cook as expirings. But push come to shove, just like EJ, I’m ok with a good deal.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Feb 8, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Not to keep beating the JR drum but. . .

Another reason I am all for signing JR Smith is because we’d add a high quality player while keeping Bled and Foye. If not, Olshey should look to use his trade exceptions in a trade before moving Bled.

by cassellmania on Feb 8, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

That's my reasoning too

The positives outweigh the negatives. And yeah.. should go in this order:

Trade Cook
Trade the exception(s)
Trade Foye
Trade Bledsoe

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Feb 8, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

i'd rather trade first before just signing

addition by subtraction…

add a player to score off the bench and loose brian cook…
..Foye would just be a causality we must accept

that’s wins all around of the Clips in my book

Ralph, "Last year so often with Blake Griffin you would see these things coming, with Paul, he's so crafty, all of a sudden boom there it is."

by KidJustin on Feb 8, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

add without trading

but do we really want to run at full capacity?

Ralph, "Last year so often with Blake Griffin you would see these things coming, with Paul, he's so crafty, all of a sudden boom there it is."

by KidJustin on Feb 8, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Except Dallas had the Matrix behind Caron

Matrix >>>>>> Foye

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Now living the good life in Lob City, CA.

by boltsfan21 on Feb 8, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

They also added another shooter in Peja

He won them a few playoff games with big 3s. Olshey will need to add another x-factor player by the deadline, whether its a shooter or defender.

by cassellmania on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Which is why I’d rather wait to see who’s available at the deadline (or later via buyouts) then sell our soul for Mr. Manslaughter right now.

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Now living the good life in Lob City, CA.

by boltsfan21 on Feb 8, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

this is good too

if we dont make a trade first

Ralph, "Last year so often with Blake Griffin you would see these things coming, with Paul, he's so crafty, all of a sudden boom there it is."

by KidJustin on Feb 8, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

With exactly the same stroke that 12-year-old girls use

And yet remarkably, he gets it off, and it often goes in.

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Now living the good life in Lob City, CA.

by boltsfan21 on Feb 8, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

i cant finger it...

but ur comment sounds wrong on in so many ways

Ralph, "Last year so often with Blake Griffin you would see these things coming, with Paul, he's so crafty, all of a sudden boom there it is."

by KidJustin on Feb 8, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Yikes

You’re right. I expect the authorities to come knocking at my door any minute now…

Proudly enduring the pain since the days of Bill Walton's foot.
Now living the good life in Lob City, CA.

by boltsfan21 on Feb 8, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

But then you tried to "finger it"

Now you’re both guilty.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Feb 8, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

ESPN First Take Debate Today

Who is your NBA MVP so far?
Skip Bayless 1.CP3 2. LeBron
Tim Legler 1. LeBron 2. CP3
Chris Broussard 1. LeBron 2. CP3
First time I have ever heard Bayless say anything positive about the Clippers.

"Cheikh Samb, the player who allowed us to emotionally move on from losing Keith Closs"

by PV Mike on Feb 8, 2012 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

Did you not see what MEGASTAT had to say about CP3?

He’s the 2nd best player in the L right now.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Feb 8, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Facebook voters at the end of show voted for CP3 52% vs 48%

"Cheikh Samb, the player who allowed us to emotionally move on from losing Keith Closs"

by PV Mike on Feb 8, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's to hoping the league decides to Ask the Audience.

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Feb 8, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

SamAmicoFSO Sam Amico
And as predicted, Randy Foye will start for Clippers in place of injured G Chauncey Billups. Mo Williams will continue to come off bench.

by Buddahfan on Feb 8, 2012 2:21 PM PST reply actions  

just saw a good idea for a player to add

How about James Posey a 3/4 defender decent long ball and gives us length against elite wingman. We could go big on defense Gomes at the 2 at times

by KillaClip on Feb 8, 2012 2:35 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Lots of championship experience too...

"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by Erik O on Feb 8, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

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